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Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 12:06pm On Jun 25, 2021
I like to believe that all Abrahamic religion are one in the same because of the belief in one God.
And I think all the holy books are one series or episodes.
It begins with the Old Testament which Muslims call Taurat, Then Injil (don’t know if that’s right) which the Christian call “The Gospel” Or New Testament. (And I know the difference between “New Testament and Gospel”) Then comes The Holy Quran. Which to me seem like the holy Bible (Old and New Testament) rewritten

From all these the most legit is the Old Testament because you can’t do anything with both books that comes later if you don’t understand the Old Testament.

The Muslims often wonder why the Christian refer to Jesus as God since he was just a messenger sent by God. I think the Old Testament got the answer.

Isaiah 9:6 “Unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulder, and His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

Note he said mighty God not almighty God.
I believe that will put the argument of Jesus being a god or not to rest.
Jesus is in fact a might God but Jehovah AKA Allah is the Almighty God.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Kobojunkie: 12:14pm On Jun 25, 2021
143WaZoBia:
I like to belief that all Abrahamic religion are one in the same because of the believe in one God.
And I think all the holy books are one series or episodes. .
The facts, however, speak an entirely different truth from that which you have chosen to believe, this if we are to accelf6 that God is indeed the supreme being here and not man and his beliefs
undecided
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 12:28pm On Jun 25, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The facts, however, speak an entirely different truth from that which you have chosen to believe, this if we are to accelf6 that God is indeed the supreme being here and not man and his beliefs
undecided
I like to believe there’s a supreme being.
If you drop your phone on a table and nobody went back to that table for a million years the phone will remain there. That’s means if you do nothing nothing will happen.
Let’s say there was a beginning. Everything evolution thought us today started from somewhere. From the Big Bang to the first living cell, to dinosaur and then sapiens. None of this happened by chance. There was a designer and a creator. Nothing compare to human. This is something that can see beyond a trillions of years or that has been that long, something that understand changes and reactions more than the human capabilities.
Cut open a chicken or goat. See all the working mechanism that’s how your phone and cars are built too. Only thing is your phone and cars don’t have the type of material used for natural things, human can’t replicate them.
I don’t know if any of the books is right but I know that there’s a God.
There’s book called Age of Reason by Thomas Paine. You need to read it. I learned about God from that book and book was against all the religious books.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Kobojunkie: 12:41pm On Jun 25, 2021
143WaZoBia:

I like to believe there’s a supreme being.
If you drop your phone on a table and nobody went back to that table for a million years the phone will remain there. That’s means if you do nothing nothing will happen.
Let’s say there was a beginning. Everything evolution thought us today started from somewhere. From the Big Bang to the first living cell, to dinosaur and then sapiens. None of this happened by chance. There was a designer and a creator. Nothing compare to human. This is something that can see beyond a trillions of years or that has been that long, something that understand changes and reactions more than the human capabilities.
Cut open a chicken or goat. See all the working mechanism that’s how your phone and cars are built too. Only thing is your phone and cars don’t have the type of material used for natural things, human can’t replicate them.
I don’t know if any of the books is right but I know that there’s a God.
There’s book called Age of Reason by Thomas Paine. You need to read it. I learned about God from that book and book was against all the religious books.
Yes, read a book written by a human being such as my person in order to be convinced that there indeed is a God, that is how religion begins, you know?

Anyways, I do believe in God so don't bother. However, your claim that all "Abrahamic" religions worship the same God and that their "holy" books are one series of episodes, is what dispute. And this because the information available to us, this in the books , do not support the claim of yours. undecided
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 12:47pm On Jun 25, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Yes, read a book written by a human being such as my person in order to be convinced that there indeed is a God, that is how religion begins, you know?

Anyways, I do believe in God so don't bother. However, your claim that all "Abrahamic" religions worship the same God and that their "holy" books are one series of episodes, is what dispute. And this because the information available to us, this in the books , do not support the claim of yours. undecided
I think they do. The point is to create a new religion you really have to write some deep shit. The only thing new that differentiates both books are distortions and real time events of when the latter was written.
Abraham is still Abraham, Moses still Moses and Jesus is still Jesus in both books.
The Old Testament told about what was happening and what’s going to happen in the New Testament. The Quran contained both with extra teaching that’s all.
Re: Is Jesus God? by Kobojunkie: 12:54pm On Jun 25, 2021
143WaZoBia:

I think they do. The point is to create a new religion you really have to write some deep shit. The only thing new that differentiates both books are distortions and real time events of when the latter was written.
Abraham is still Abraham, Moses still Moses and Jesus is still Jesus in both books.
The Old Testament told about what was happening and what’s going to happen in the New Testament. The Quran contained both with extra teaching that’s all.
But the books aren't about the men but the God behind the men, and His Laws as given through them. If you ou carefully examined that instead of paying more attention to the men and the titles given them, you would see and note the patterns of God and realize then that all do not indeed worship the same God nor are the books related in the way you pretend. undecided

The Quran may contain man's views and ideas regarding that is written in the Old and New Covenants, but it does not contain God's revealed pattern, nor does it even pretend to realize there is one to His Laws. undecided
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:16pm On Jun 25, 2021
143WaZoBia:
I like to believe that all Abrahamic religion are one in the same because of the belief in one God.
And I think all the holy books are one series or episodes.
It begins with the Old Testament which Muslims call Taurat, Then Injil (don’t know if that’s right) which the Christian call “The Gospel” Or New Testament. (And I know the difference between “New Testament and Gospel”) Then comes The Holy Quran. Which to me seem like the holy Bible (Old and New Testament) rewritten

From all these the most legit is the Old Testament because you can’t do anything with both books that comes later if you don’t understand the Old Testament.

The Muslims often wonder why the Christian refer to Jesus as God since he was just a messenger sent by God. I think the Old Testament got the answer.

Isaiah 9:6 “Unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulder, and His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

Note he said mighty God not almighty God.
I believe that will put the argument of Jesus being a god or not to rest.
Jesus is in fact a might God but Jehovah AKA Allah is the Almighty God.

The highlighted is the only error in what you typed Sir!

Jehovah and Allah aren't the same person!

Jehovah addressed Jesus as "SON"

Allah has no son! undecided
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 3:35pm On Jun 25, 2021
143WaZoBia:
I like to believe that all Abrahamic religion are one in the same because of the belief in one God.
And I think all the holy books are one series or episodes.
It begins with the Old Testament which Muslims call Taurat, Then Injil (don’t know if that’s right) which the Christian call “The Gospel” Or New Testament. (And I know the difference between “New Testament and Gospel”) Then comes The Holy Quran. Which to me seem like the holy Bible (Old and New Testament) rewritten

From all these the most legit is the Old Testament because you can’t do anything with both books that comes later if you don’t understand the Old Testament.

The Muslims often wonder why the Christian refer to Jesus as God since he was just a messenger sent by God. I think the Old Testament got the answer.

Isaiah 9:6 “Unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulder, and His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

Note he said mighty God not almighty God.
I believe that will put the argument of Jesus being a god or not to rest.
Jesus is in fact a might God but Jehovah AKA Allah is the Almighty God.
LOL AHMAD WAS SUBSTITUTED FOR MIGHTY GOD grin . THAT VERSE IS VERY CLEAR PEOPLE OF REASON.

ABEG CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHICH GOVERNMENT CHRIST HEADED WHILE IN THE WORLD.

IF YOU TRUELY BELIEVE THAT HE HEADED THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL, WHO IS PONTUS PILATE WHO IS HEROLD

WHO IS THE PRINCE OF PEACE grin
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 3:40pm On Jun 25, 2021
143WaZoBia:

I think they do. The point is to create a new religion you really have to write some deep shit. The only thing new that differentiates both books are distortions and real time events of when the latter was written.
Abraham is still Abraham, Moses still Moses and Jesus is still Jesus in both books.
The Old Testament told about what was happening and what’s going to happen in the New Testament. The Quran contained both with extra teaching that’s all.
YOU GAN, YOU DONT NEED TO APPLY TAQIYYA HERE, JUST TELL THEM THE MEANING OF THAT VERSE AND STOP JOKING WITH THE WORD OF GOD.
PLEASE DROP THE OTHER VERSE IN THAT SAME ISAIAH THAT PROPHESY THE COMING OF CHRIST. HE PROPHESIED THE COMING OF CHRIST BEFORE THIS VERY PROPHECY ABOUT PROPHET MUHAMMAD. MIGHTY GOD INDEED
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:50pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:

LOL AHMAD WAS SUBSTITUTED FOR MIGHTY GOD grin . THAT VERSE IS VERY CLEAR PEOPLE OF REASON.
ABEG CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHICH GOVERNMENT CHRIST HEADED WHILE IN THE WORLD.
IF YOU TRUELY BELIEVE THAT HE HEADED THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL, WHO IS PONTUS PILATE WHO IS HEROLD
WHO IS THE PRINCE OF PEACE grin

"Israel" in that context means God's faithful people.
Jesus became the global king of God's faithful servants right from the day he began preaching and teaching.
That's why people having faith were searching for him to make him their mentor, the day he died the thief executed along with him proved that few people understood what Jesus' government entails.
Note what the dying man requested from another dying man beside him:

Then he said: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your Kingdom.”

So some people realized that Jesus' government is not of this world! John 18:36

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 3:54pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:
YOU GAN, YOU DONT NEED TO APPLY TAQIYYA HERE, JUST TELL THEM THE MEANING OF THAT VERSE AND STOP JOKING WITH THE WORD OF GOD.
PLEASE DROP THE OTHER VERSE IN THAT SAME ISAIAH THAT PROPHESY THE COMING OF CHRIST. HE PROPHESIED THE COMING OF CHRIST BEFORE THIS VERY PROPHECY ABOUT PROPHET MUHAMMAD. MIGHTY GOD INDEED
Lol. Isaiah never prophecy about Muhammad. It was Jesus he was talking about. Lol. The question about Jesus kingdom is another debate
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 3:56pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


"Israel" in that context means God's faithful people.
Jesus became the global king of God's faithful servants right from the day he began preaching and teaching.
That's why people having faith were searching for him to make him their mentor, the day he died the thief executed along with him proved that few people understood what Jesus' government entails.
Note what the dying man requested from another dying man beside him:

Then he said: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your Kingdom.”

So some people realized that Jesus' government is not of this world! John 18:36

May you have PEACE! smiley
HE RAISED HIMSELF UP TO HEAVEN RIGHT
RECEIVE SENSE
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 3:56pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


"Israel" in that context means God's faithful people.
Jesus became the global king of God's faithful servants right from the day he began preaching and teaching.
That's why people having faith were searching for him to make him their mentor, the day he died the thief executed along with him proved that few people understood what Jesus' government entails.
Note what the dying man requested from another dying man beside him:

Then he said: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your Kingdom.”

So some people realized that Jesus' government is not of this world! John 18:36

May you have PEACE! smiley
Omo na today I know say Na this verse this people de talk when dem say Bible prophecy about Mohammed. But they never called Muhammad God or mighty God.
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:03pm On Jun 25, 2021
143WaZoBia:

Lol. Isaiah never prophecy about Muhammad. It was Jesus he was talking about. Lol. The question about Jesus kingdom is another debate
HELP US POST ISAIAH CHAPTER 9VS 6 HERE PLEASE grin

DO YOU WANT ME TO POST HIS PROPHESY ABOUT THE UNLETTERED PROPHET
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:26pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:

HE RAISED HIMSELF UP TO HEAVEN RIGHT
RECEIVE SENSE

I can see that you're as zealous as i was when practicing Islam, you're doing fine my friend.
But God's word said God raised Jesus because of his godly fear! Hebrews 5:7
So the Bible didn't say Jesus raised himself but God raised him! Act 2:32 smiley
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:29pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


I can see that you're as zealous as i was when practicing Islam, you're doing fine my friend.
But God's word said God raised Jesus because of his godly fear! Hebrews 5:7
So the Bible didn't say Jesus raised himself but God raised him! Act 2:32 smiley
SO WHY ARE YOU WORSHIPPING THE CREATION INSTEAD OF YOUR CREATOR

CC
THESOURCERER
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:30pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:

HELP US POST ISAIAH CHAPTER 9VS 6 HERE PLEASE grin
DO YOU WANT ME TO POST HIS PROPHESY ABOUT THE UNLETTERED PROPHET

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, Islam and confusion! smiley

Please what do Islamic Clerics have to say about it:

For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. smiley
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:34pm On Jun 25, 2021
143WaZoBia:

Omo na today I know say Na this verse this people de talk when dem say Bible prophecy about Mohammed. But they never called Muhammad God or mighty God.
YOU DON PICK RACEgrin

HELP US POST ISAIAH CHAPTER 9 VS 6 HERE grin
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:36pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:

SO WHY ARE YOU WORSHIPPING THE CREATION INSTEAD OF YOUR CREATOR
CC
THESOURCERER
I know you're zealous for Islam my friend, but try to be calm so that you can see things clearly!

Tí ojú bá fara balẹ̀ á rímú

True Christians don't worship the TRINITY, that's the fallacy where Jesus is worshiped, in true Christianity Jesus is the model we must imitate to worship the true God but he is not the true God otherwise he wouldn't have said:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ"

So God sent him, therefore if God sent him then how come he's to be worshiped? smiley
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:37pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, Islam and confusion! smiley

Please what do Islamic Clerics have to say about it:

For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. smiley
ISAIAH CHAPTER 9 VS 6 PLEASE. ONE THING ABOUT YOU HUMAN BEING WORSHIPPERS IS THAT YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR BIBLE
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:40pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

I know you're zealous for Islam my friend, but try to be calm so that you can see things clearly!

Tí ojú bá fara balẹ̀ á rímú

True Christians don't worship the TRINITY, that's the fallacy where Jesus is worshiped, in true Christianity Jesus is the model we must imitate to worship the true God but he is not the true God otherwise he wouldn't have said:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ"

So God sent him, therefore if God sent him then how come he's to be worshiped? smiley
I’M A BIBLE AND QURANIC SCHOLAR SO DON’T EVER TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT,
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:40pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:

ISAIAH CHAPTER 9 VS 6 PLEASE. ONE THING ABOUT YOU HUMAN BEING WORSHIPPERS IS THAT YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR BIBLE

Wahala dey Okpoko! cheesy

Abeg this is Isaiah 9:6 quoted below!

"For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:41pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

I know you're zealous for Islam my friend, but try to be calm so that you can see things clearly!

Tí ojú bá fara balẹ̀ á rímú

True Christians don't worship the TRINITY, that's the fallacy where Jesus is worshiped, in true Christianity Jesus is the model we must imitate to worship the true God but he is not the true God otherwise he wouldn't have said:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ"

So God sent him, therefore if God sent him then how come he's to be worshiped? smiley
MOSES SENT HIMSELF ABI
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:42pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:

I’M A BIBLE AND QURANIC SCHOLAR SO DON’T EVER TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT,

Another Jamiu Adegunwa has landed on Nairaland! cheesy

I'm telling you what is happening yet you're arguing blindly. Well i am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we are not worshipers of Jesus o! smiley
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:43pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:

MOSES SENT HIMSELF ABI

Please what has Moses got to do with the topic of discussion?
Can you go straight to what you have in mind? smiley
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:51pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Wahala dey Okpoko! cheesy

Abeg this is Isaiah 9:6 quoted below!

"For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
PARDON ME BRUH

I MEAN ISAIAH CHAPTER 7 VS 14-15
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:53pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Please what has Moses got to do with the topic of discussion?
Can you go straight to what you have in mind? smiley
WHO IS MOSES TO YOU
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 4:55pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Another Jamiu Adegunwa has landed on Nairaland! cheesy

I'm telling you what is happening yet you're arguing blindly. Well i am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we are not worshipers of Jesus o! smiley
BROS I BE CONFIRM IGBO MAN O, NOR MISTAKE ME FOR YOUR IMAGINARY JAMIU

ABUM NWA AFO IGBO
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:04pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:
PARDON ME BRUH

I MEAN ISAIAH CHAPTER 7 VS 14-15

Therefore, Jehovah himself will give you a sign: Look! The young woman will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and she will name him Im·manʹu·el. He will eat butter and honey by the time that he knows how to reject the bad and choose the good.

That's it! smiley
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:08pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:
BROS I BE CONFIRM IGBO MAN O, NOR MISTAKE ME FOR YOUR IMAGINARY JAMIU
ABUM NWA AFO IGBO

Jamiu Adegunwa is a Muslim who believes he knew so much about Bible and Qur'an but the truth is he is only zealous for his parents religion.
I was a Muslim before i converted to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I know there's no similarities between the two religions Muhammad only deceived his contemporaries and ruled those that subjected themselves to him in a cruel manner telling them everything he does has been ordained by God! smiley
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 5:08pm On Jun 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Therefore, Jehovah himself will give you a sign: Look! The young woman will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and she will name him Im·manʹu·el. He will eat butter and honey by the time that he knows how to reject the bad and choose the good.

That's it! smiley
LETS COMPARE IT WITH CHAPTER 9VS 6.

NOW MY QUESTION IS, WHO IS THIS IMMACULATE BEING THAT WOULD EAT WORLDLY FOOD (BUTTER, MILK AND HONEY)


WHO IS THIS SON THAT GOVERNMENT WOULD REST ON HIS SHOULDER
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:20pm On Jun 25, 2021
OBALOLA55:

LETS COMPARE IT WITH CHAPTER 9VS 6.
NOW MY QUESTION IS, WHO IS THIS IMMACULATE BEING THAT WOULD EAT WORLDLY FOOD (BUTTER, MILK AND HONEY)
WHO IS THIS SON THAT GOVERNMENT WOULD REST ON HIS SHOULDER

With whom, therefore, should I compare the men of this generation, and whom are they like? They are like young children sitting in a marketplace and calling out to one another, saying: ‘We played the flute for you, but you did not dance; we wailed, but you did not weep.’ Likewise, John the Baptist has come neither eating bread nor drinking wine, but you say: ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of man has come eating and drinking, but you say: ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by all its children.” Luke 7:31-45

Two prophets came the same time in Israel:

John the baptist:- This prophet never eat normal human food like all other people rather his food is locust bean and honey! Matthew 3:4

Jesus of Nazareth:- This prophet eats whatever is served and drink any kind of drink like all other people.

Well i believe the answer to your question has been found @ Luke 7:33-34 smiley

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