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| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 9:56pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Followers of Jesus were first called Chrestian first in antioch, yes or no? Who is mary, joseph and James the just in antiquities of the jew Yahweh is a fraud,who sent jesus? Exposed!
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| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 9:57pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 9:58pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:Who is the "they" that said Chrestus was present in Rome fire? Your scholars or sources no get name? Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 9:58pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Desperate forger, Followers of Jesus were first called Chrestian first in antioch, yes or no? Who is mary, joseph and James the just in antiquities of the jew Yahweh is a fraud,who sent jesus? Exposed!
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| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 9:59pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 10:10pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Followers of Jesus were first called Chrestian first in antioch, yes or no? Who is mary, joseph and James the just in antiquities of the jew Yahweh is a fraud,who sent jesus? Exposed!
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| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 10:11pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Did jesus ever go to rome for evangelism? Bwahahahah
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| Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:19pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Jesus clearly said something that when looked into carefully you will know that it's a curse on unbelieving Jews and false religionists claiming believers. Jesus said: "Whoever is not on my side is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters" Luke 11:23 All those that refuses to believe in Jesus can't think alike it's just impossible because only Jesus Christ is the way, truth and life no one can connect the true God without Jesus! John 14:6 They can only agree to criticize Jesus and his true disciples but they can never agree to work together for peaceful coexistence, rather they will continue to build destructive weapons and killing themselves! Revelations 6:3-4 But as for those who are with Jesus in Spirit and in Truth {John 4:24} they will be connected to the father through Christ Jesus! John 17:22 No be rocket science nah wisdom from the world's most wonderful counselor of all time: Jesus of Nazareth! Isaiah 9:6 ![]() |
| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:20pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:23pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:Read; The message on Jesus Christ was preached to Jews who traveled for the Passover after the ascension of Christ. That was how followers of Christus (who suffered the extreme penalty under Pontius Pilate) were present in Rome. Through evangelism and conversion. Not fleeing from war. Acts 2 v 5-11; 5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. 7 Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? 9 Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11 (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” These Jews, including the ones who came over from Rome for the Passover later converted to Christianity. Acts 2 v 41; 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. And just to add, towards the end of his life when he was held under house arrest in Rome, Apostle Paul devoted his life entirely to preaching about Jesus Christ and the kingdom of God to Jews and Gentiles that visited him. The details are in Acts 28 v 11-31. Now that this has been explained; Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 10:23pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Desperate forger, Followers of Jesus were first called Chrestian first in antioch, yes or no? Who is mary, joseph and James the just in antiquities of the jew Yahweh is a fraud,who sent jesus? Exposed! Thanks for confirming the exis
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| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:23pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 10:25pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:You are using New Testament that’s complied by known Chrestian forgers? Did jesus ever go to rome? The fire was started by Chrestian
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| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:25pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:He can't even complete his sentences properly ![]() Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:25pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:And you're using screenshots from unknown sources which I'm 100% sure are not Jewish historians or scholars... Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 10:26pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Desperate forger, Followers of Jesus were first called Chrestian first in antioch, yes or no? Who is mary, joseph and James the just in antiquities of the jew Yahweh is a fraud,who sent jesus? Exposed!
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| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:26pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:He can't even complete his sentences properly ![]() Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 10:28pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Desperate forger, Followers of Jesus were first called Chrestian first in antioch, yes or no? Who is mary, joseph and James the just in antiquities of the jew Yahweh is a fraud,who sent jesus? Exposed!
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| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:28pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 10:29pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Did jesus ever go to rome? You went to bring “visitors from rome” bwahahahah Your desperation is glaring, Yahweh worshipper
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| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:35pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Maynman:Yawns... Go to school and learn the basics. The visitors from Rome were part of the people that converted to Christianity after they listened to Peter preach on the day of Pentecost. They went back to Rome to preach about Jesus Christ too. Also, Paul preached about Jesus Christ to the Jews and Gentiles that visited him when he was under house arrest in Rome. That was how Christianity got to Rome before the great fire of 64 AD. Now that being said... Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 10:38pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
OkCornel:Noise, did jesus ever go to rome? They were first called Chrestian at Antioch in turkey! Chrestus was present in rome during the fire! Desperate forger, this is so clear!
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| Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 12:05am On Jul 13, 2022*. Modified: 2:35am On Jul 13, 2022 |
OkCornel:Leave me out of it. There is no historical Jesus and even if there was, so what? If there was, all you have is some random Jew who led a cult 2000 years ago. Does the existence of Muhammad validate the incredible and improbable claims made about him and Islam? Apply the answer to your super jew that looks like Kenny Loggins. |
| Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 12:16am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Did a man called Jesus of Nazareth walk the earth? Discussions over whether the figure known as the “Historical Jesus” actually existed primarily reflect disagreements among atheists. Believers, who uphold the implausible and more easily-dismissed “Christ of Faith” (the divine Jesus who walked on water), ought not to get involved. Numerous secular scholars have presented their own versions of the so-called “Historical Jesus” – and most of them are, as biblical scholar J.D. Crossan puts it, “an academic embarrassment.” From Crossan’s view of Jesus as the wise sage, to Robert Eisenman’s Jesus the revolutionary, and Bart Ehrman’s apocalyptic prophet, about the only thing New Testament scholars seem to agree on is Jesus’ historical existence. But can even that be questioned? The first problem we encounter when trying to discover more about the Historical Jesus is the lack of early sources. The earliest sources only reference the clearly fictional Christ of Faith. These early sources, compiled decades after the alleged events, all stem from Christian authors eager to promote Christianity – which gives us reason to question them. The authors of the Gospels fail to name themselves, describe their qualifications, or show any criticism with their foundational sources – which they also fail to identify. Filled with mythical and non-historical information, and heavily edited over time, the Gospels certainly should not convince critics to trust even the more mundane claims made therein. Also important are the sources we don’t have. There are no existing eyewitness or contemporary accounts of Jesus. All we have are later descriptions of Jesus’ life events by non-eyewitnesses, most of whom are obviously biased. Little can be gleaned from the few non-Biblical and non-Christian sources, with only The first problem we encounter when trying to discover more about the Historical Jesus is the lack of early sources. The earliest sources only reference the clearly fictional Christ of Faith. These early sources, compiled decades after the alleged events, all stem from Christian authors eager to promote Christianity – which gives us reason to question them. The authors of the Gospels fail to name themselves, describe their qualifications, or show any criticism with their foundational sources – which they also fail to identify. Filled with mythical and non-historical information, and heavily edited over time, the Gospels certainly should not convince critics to trust even the more mundane claims made therein. Roman scholar Josephus and historian Tacitus having any reasonable claim to be writing about Jesus within 100 years of his life. And even those sparse accounts are shrouded in controversy, with disagreements over what parts have obviously been changed by Christian scribes (the manuscripts were preserved by Christians), the fact that both these authors were born after Jesus died (they would thus have probably received this information from Christians), and the oddity that centuries go by before Christian apologists start referencing them. So what do the mainstream (and non-Christian) scholars say about all this? Surprisingly very little – of substance anyway. Only Bart Ehrman and Maurice Casey have thoroughly attempted to prove Jesus’ historical existence in recent times. Their most decisive point? The Gospels can generally be trusted – after we ignore the many, many bits that are untrustworthy – because of the hypothetical (i.e. non-existent) sources behind them. Who produced these hypothetical sources? When? What did they say? Were they reliable? Were they intended to be accurate historical portrayals, enlightening allegories, or entertaining fictions? Ehrman and Casey can’t tell you – and neither can any New Testament scholar. Given the poor state of the existing sources, and the atrocious methods used by mainstream Biblical historians, the matter will likely never be resolved. In sum, there are clearly good reasons to doubt Jesus’ historical existence – if not to think it outright improbable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/18/did-historical-jesus-exist-the-traditional-evidence-doesnt-hold-up/ |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 12:34am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Roman Catholic created Jesus Chrestus and nicene Christianity
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| Re: ************************ by IslamVIRGINS(f): 3:51am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Maynman:Animal what's your problem again |
| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 6:32am On Jul 13, 2022 |
IslamVIRGINS:Never mind desperate dog |
| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 8:34am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Maynman:Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 8:35am On Jul 13, 2022 |
KnownUnknown:Do you have evidences of Jewish historians and scholars unanimously denying the existence of Jesus Christ of Nazareth?
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| Re: ************************ by Maynman: 9:17am On Jul 13, 2022 |
OkCornel:Lol. These are the evidences of your savior, yahweh worshipper? |
| Re: ************************ by OkCornel(m): 10:04am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Maynman:Fringe theorist, did Jewish scholars and historians unanimously deny the existence of Jesus Christ? If yes, kindly provide evidences. |
| Re: ************************ by KnownUnknown: 11:30am On Jul 13, 2022 |
OkCornel: KnownUnknown: |
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