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I'm still confused.

I thought the introduction of BVAS is to make the result easy to upload.

I thought immediately the votes are counted and recorded, it will be upload in front of everyone to the BVAS before INEC officials take the ballot boxes and everything to the headquarters for cross-checking to ensure that what is on the ballot paper and hardcopies tallies with what is on the BVAS server.

Why is it that some results haven't been uploaded to the BVAS several hours after votes have been counted?

Explain to me like a 5 year old how the BVAS work abeg.

5 years old cant vote wait till you are 18 🙄

I will mention you in a comment where I explained it.

lovediehatelive:
I'm still confused.

I thought the introduction of BVAS is to make the result easy to upload.

I thought immediately the votes are counted and recorded, it will be upload in front of everyone to the BVAS before INEC officials take the ballot boxes and everything to the headquarters for cross-checking to ensure that what is on the ballot paper and hardcopies tallies with what is on the BVAS server.

Why is it that some results haven't been uploaded to the BVAS several hours after votes have been counted?

Explain to me like a 5 year old how the BVAS work abeg.

You don’t need any explanation.
You explained it perfectly.

The real question is WHAT GAMES ARE APC AND INEC OFFICIALS PLAYING ON NIGERIANS?

lovediehatelive:
I'm still confused.

I thought the introduction of BVAS is to make the result easy to upload.

I thought immediately the votes are counted and recorded, it will be upload in front of everyone to the BVAS before INEC officials take the ballot boxes and everything to the headquarters for cross-checking to ensure that what is on the ballot paper and hardcopies tallies with what is on the BVAS server.

Why is it that some results haven't been uploaded to the BVAS several hours after votes have been counted?

Explain to me like a 5 year old how the BVAS work abeg.

I type this to chapgpt and this is what it had to say:
"BVAS stands for Biometric Voter Accreditation System, which is a tool used by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) to verify the identity of voters during an election.

Here's how it works: when you arrive at a polling station to vote, your biometric data (like your fingerprints and facial features) will be scanned and verified against the data that INEC has on file for you. If your biometrics match, you'll be allowed to vote.

The BVAS system also helps to transmit election results electronically. After voting has ended and the votes have been counted manually, the results will be entered into a computer, which will then transmit the data to INEC's central server using the BVAS system.

However, sometimes there may be technical issues that cause delays in transmitting the data. It's also possible that some polling stations may not have the necessary equipment or internet connectivity to transmit the results immediately.

In any case, it's important to make sure that the results are accurate and that all votes are properly counted before they're uploaded to the BVAS. That's why INEC officials will double-check the results against the hardcopies of the ballots before uploading them to the server."

SmartPolician:
I will mention you in a comment where I explained it.

Link it here

SmartPolician:
I will mention you in a comment where I explained it.

Please do

KanwuliaExtra:
You don’t need any explanation.
You explained it perfectly.

The real question is WHAT GAMES ARE APC AND INEC OFFICIALS PLAYING ON NIGERIANS?

Thank God I explained it how it should be.

I have started doubting my sanity.


Shebi even a 5 year old too understands how BVAS works.

Why are they trying to play games?

lovediehatelive:
Thank God I explained it how it should be.

I have started doubting my sanity.


Shebi even a 5 year old too understands how BVAS works.

Why are they trying to play games?

The usual abracadabraaaaaa . . . . INEC should be prosecuted for FRAUD!

BeLookingIDIOT:
I type this to chapgpt and this is what it had to say:
"BVAS stands for Biometric Voter Accreditation System, which is a tool used by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) to verify the identity of voters during an election.

Here's how it works: when you arrive at a polling station to vote, your biometric data (like your fingerprints and facial features) will be scanned and verified against the data that INEC has on file for you. If your biometrics match, you'll be allowed to vote.

The BVAS system also helps to transmit election results electronically. After voting has ended and the votes have been counted manually, the results will be entered into a computer, which will then transmit the data to INEC's central server using the BVAS system.

However, sometimes there may be technical issues that cause delays in transmitting the data. It's also possible that some polling stations may not have the necessary equipment or internet connectivity to transmit the results immediately.

In any case, it's important to make sure that the results are accurate and that all votes are properly counted before they're uploaded to the BVAS. That's why INEC officials will double-check the results against the hardcopies of the ballots before uploading them to the server."

Thanks for the explanation.

If there's room for errors, then riggers will heavily bank on it and claim no network, bla bla bla, then rig the result.

To me, the results shouldn't leave the poling unit at all.

They must device a failproof way in which the BVAS will be working all the time.

We should have outgrown this in this 2023!!!

KanwuliaExtra:
The usual abracadabraaaaaa . . . . INEC should be prosecuted for FRAUD!

People turned out en-mass to vote because they believe their votes would count.

Why is INEC trying to destroy the small mutual trust we have for them?

lovediehatelive:
People turned out en-mass to vote because they believe their votes would count.

Why is INEC trying to destroy the small mutual trust we have for them?

Can you IMAGINE the nonsense?

KanwuliaExtra:
Can you IMAGINE the nonsense?

They must do what is right!!

Transparency!!

SmartPolician:
You don't understand what INEC promised.

And to be honest, it's not your fault.

I will take some time to explain how it works so that I can copy others who don't seem to understand the process.

Now, if you voted yesterday, you will notice that the corps members would snap, upload the result and save it on BVAS. Once they do this, that information is in digital format. It means that INEC automatically has access to it. So they don't need any hard copy for making decisions or determining the winner.

Now, INEC didn't promise to release this soft copy to anyone because they assume that everyone already has it. After all, we all voted and saw it.

However, what INEC promised was that they would input the data in real time so that everyone can view it. The name of the portal is IRev. This is the link: https://www.inecelectionresults.ng/elections/63f8f25b594e164f8146a213?state=17.

But then, realistically, it will be difficult for you to know the winner here unless you want to compute the results yourself.

The complaint of the Labour Party chairman this morning is that INEC didn't do this in real time. To be honest, this is almost impossible because INEC officials would be too busy or tired to do that. Yes, they are humans too. However, INEC has now updated the information now. Check it out....

I spoke with a Labour Party agent this morning. He told me that INEC Lagos asked them to come and crosscheck the data they are about key into IRev for transparency purposes. People only agitate when they don't understand how a system works.

In conclusion, we will wait for INEC to announce the results because viewing that portal is a complete waste of time. It's just for verification of results and research purposes.

I hope this helps ...

Cc lovediehatelive
nkemjacob2

Thanks for your explanation.

I'm all for transparency, for free and fair elections.

Whoever wins, the election should be free and fair.

Now a few questions and possibly suggestions.

1. Did the INEC staff snap, and upload the results in the presence of everyone and without duress?

2. Did they send the soft copies to those there for evidence and verification purposes because, in the absence of everyone, it is possible for them to have another document and write what they want based on rigging, then upload to the BVAS.

3. On NO ACCOUNT should the results leave a poling unit without being uploaded in front of everyone on the server.

3. Yes, uploading real time could be difficult, but possible!!! They just have to allocate more funds for building a larger server or data base. I'm speaking as a lay man.

They could buy extra bandwidth to accommodate real time upload of results just like when too much traffic is on a website, it might crash. But with enough bandwidth, the host or server can accommodate the real time results.

Now, you might say how can over 700,000+ polling units send the results real time, the server would crash.

The suggestion here is that Inec should get larger server that can hold real time traffic (700k+) at once.

If that would be difficult, they should create sub-servers by local governments, and state levels where the results should be uploaded real time in the presence of everyone, and the logs should be recorded before sending forward to the national headquarters for final coalition.

If there's anything fishy, we can track from the logs.

5. You spoke and they told you that everyone there crosschecked before final upload. That's awesome! The problem is that, I fear this isn't how it's done evewhere. Some results were not sent in the presence of everyone.


These are just some concerns from a concerned mind.

INEC did great by introducing the BVAS, they should not sabotage their efforts by allowing loopholes through which the BVAS could be used for results tampering

lovediehatelive:
Thanks for your explanation.

I'm all for transparency, for free and fair elections.

Whoever wins, the election should be free and fair.

Now a few questions and possibly suggestions.

1. Did the INEC staff snap, and upload the results in the presence of everyone and without duress?

2. Did they send the soft copies to those there for evidence and verification purposes because, in the absence of everyone, it is possible for them to have another document and write what they want based on rigging, then upload to the BVAS.

3. On NO ACCOUNT should the results leave a poling unit without being uploaded in front of everyone on the server.

3. Yes, uploading real time could be difficult, but possible!!! They just have to allocate more funds for building a larger server or data base. I'm speaking as a lay man.

They could buy extra bandwidth to accommodate real time upload of results just like when too much traffic is on a website, it might crash. But with enough bandwidth, the host or server can accommodate the real time results.

Now, you might say how can over 700,000+ polling units send the results real time, the server would crash.

The suggestion here is that Inec should get larger server that can hold real time traffic (700k+) at once.

If that would be difficult, they should create sub-servers by local governments, and state levels where the results should be uploaded real time in the presence of everyone, and the logs should be recorded before sending forward to the national headquarters for final coalition.

If there's anything fishy, we can track from the logs.

5. You spoke and they told you that everyone there crosschecked before final upload. That's awesome! The problem is that, I fear this isn't how it's done evewhere. Some results were not sent in the presence of everyone.


These are just some concerns from a concerned mind.

INEC did great by introducing the BVAS, they should not sabotage their efforts by allowing loopholes through which the BVAS could be used for results tampering

inec is compromised

nkemjacob2:
inec is compromised

That's the truth! And we won't accept it!

No matter who wins, the elections should be transparent