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| Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Nobody: 6:22pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Should the Nigerian government have signed a MOU with a company like Vulcan Petroleum Resources? [img]http://4.bp..com/-oRwwA8nOmmI/TccC0HpklqI/AAAAAAAAAJo/TWMXpWxt1ug/s1600/you+decide.jpg[/img] THURSDAY, JANUARY 6, 2011Read More |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 6:24pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Please add that we have so far not been able to verify the actual existence of this company in the USA. https://www.laserholics.com/images/smilies/clap-animated-animation-clap-smiley-emoticon-000340-large.gif |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 6:48pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
What company is Elvaton? Is it Elvaton Nigeria? http://elvatonltd.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=2 |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Nobody: 7:03pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: What company is Elvaton?Elvaton is some kind of local contractor with a registered business address in Abuja, as far as I can tell. Business Type: Trade, Service Number of Employees: 5 ~ 50 Business Scope: Agriculture & Food, Manufacturing & Processing Machinery, Metallurgy, Mineral & Energy, Office Supplies, Security & Protection, Service, Consumer Electronics, Electrical & Electronics, Transportation Made-in-China I laugh in Vulcan[i]ese[/i] Nigeria: Four Years After, Sokoto Power Project Yet to Be OperationalSource |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by PhysicsQED(m): 8:20pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
eGuerrilla: I laugh in Vulcan[i]ese[/i]lmao well, @ topic, I truly hope they find a better alternative to this company, or that this company somehow comes through |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by wesley80(m): 9:29pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
This entire write up looks extremely mischievous to me and was obviously written in bad faith. There's a whole lot about the Vulcan group online that are positive and encouraging. In any case, its not like they r being paid to build a refinery, its purely a private venture with govt support and its not like GEJ was under any sort of pressure to build new refineries b4 he entered into this agreement. The tale of bleeding dogs and contempt for blacks and Nigerians looks like a poorly done hatchet job to me. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 9:34pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Again, which Vulcan group?? !!! Where in the US does this Vulcan live? |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by otokx(m): 9:41pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
interesting |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by DisGuy: 9:50pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
them wan come chop susidy money too many of them come around looking for ppp opportunities, they get free land, free office space, then they turn around and sell these land to others bail out and blame the tough economic policies, i remember one paper company way given hectares of land in kogi or thereabout to grow cassava and other bio-feuls yea right dem don chop money after snapping pictures with Oyinbo and suit wearing americanas - I go chop ya Million Naira-oyinbo style |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by wesley80(m): 9:52pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
This Vulcan group. Sure you're comfortable with legal jargon. Sabre Intl. Sec., Ltd. v Vulcan Capital Management., Inc. 2012 NY Slip Op 03513 Decided on May 3, 2012 Appellate Division, First Department Published by New York State Law Reporting Bureau pursuant to Judiciary Law § 431. This opinion is uncorrected and subject to revision before publication in the Official Reports. Decided on May 3, 2012 |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by wesley80(m): 9:57pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Source : law.justia.com/cases/new-york/appellate-division-first-department/2012/6046.html Now that we know a Vulcan group actually exists can we pls look for something else to amuse Kobo with? |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 9:57pm On Jul 10, 2012*. Modified: 10:44pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
^^^ Those are NOT the Vulcan companies involved. Allen's Vulgan have apparently come out to say they are not the Vulcan company signing this deal with the Nigerian Government. Vulcan Energy Corp, IS NOT Vulcan Petroleum Resources. Let's please stay away from picking any Vulcan out there for this. http://www.ipaidabribenaija.com/index.php/business/comments/report?commentID=4511 http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL6E8I2GKX20120702 |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by wesley80(m): 10:15pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
The artcle above posted by the OP clearly mention Ford Graham and Kevin Davis the owners of Vulcan Capital. If you believe Vulcan capital and Vulcan Petroleum aren't thesame, then I believe there's no basis for this thread and the ridiculous stories above. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 10:27pm On Jul 10, 2012*. Modified: 10:54pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Moreover, we have come to understand that Ford Graham, Kevin Davis, and Vulcan Capital Energy are in no way associated with Paul Allen and his respective companies. The Sokoto State Government may want to accomplish a background check prior to giving these people any monies.Vulcan Energy Corp.(associated with Paul Allen) has come out to state that it is no in any way associated with this deal. The Vulcan you are looking for is one with a Jim Mansfield guy as VP and that is not Vulcan Capital Corp. or Vulcan Energy Corp. , or VULCAN INC. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Nobody: 10:29pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
wesley80: The artcle above posted by the OP clearly mention Ford Graham and Kevin Davis the owners of Vulcan Capital. If you believe Vulcan capital and Vulcan Petroleum aren't thesame, then I believe there's no basis for this thread and the ridiculous stories above.My research indicates Vulcan Capital and Vulcan Petroleum are two sides of the same coin. This outfit should not be confused with Vulcan Energy Corp, a distinct company with a visible track record in which Paul Allen (Microsoft) appears to hold controlling shares. Given that Vulcan Capital nay Vulcan Capital Energy nay Vulcan Energy Solution, LLC nay Vulcan Energy, LLC nay Global Vulcan Energy (which no longer appears to be in use), etc appears to have no history of delivering a refinery anywhere in the world, but yet a litany of litigation cases, my original question stands: Should the Nigerian government have signed a MOU with a company like Vulcan Petroleum Resources? BGT Group, Inc. v. Vulcan Capital Management, Inc. et al, Case Number: 2:2007cv00816 Filed: December 13, 2007 GLUCKMAN v. LASERLINE-VULCAN ENERGY LEASING, LLC, 601687/08 (12-17-2009) VULCAN ENERGY SOLUTIONS, L.L.C. et al v. ADAMS |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Nobody: 10:35pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: ^^^ Those are NOT the Vulcan companies involved. Ford's Vulgan and Allen's Vulgan have apparently come out to say they are not the Vulcan company signing this deal with the Nigerian Government.Thanks to ipaidabribenaija, a news reporting site that thinks Alison Madueke is the best thing we've had since slice bread, we now know exactly who Jim Mansfield (Vulcan's Country Manager in Nigeria) is: https://n2nnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/bb-300x202.jpgSource |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 10:36pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
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| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by VoodooDoll(m): 10:36pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Nigeria we hail thee. How can a $4bn refinery contract be announced and suddenly become an orphan. No father or mother has come out to claim it. In a saner country there would be clear information on: - the backers; - the funding structure; - the timelines; - the infrastructure to be built; - the potential impact on local communities; and - a media machine that will provide information on a continuos basis. But in NIgeria, the focus is more on illusions, tricks, games, praise singing, gullible and fawning thanks, and a great big fat heist. This "Vulcan" entity is probably just another fantastic plot to exploit Nigerians. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by wesley80(m): 10:39pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
There lies the problem. What's the source of your quote as its obvious to me that the article is mischievous. Here's a quote from the Reuters article you graciously provided thelink above: '(Corrects company name to Vulcan Petroleum, which is not related to Paul Allen's Vulcan Energy) So why does your favoured article say otherwise? Has Paul Allen really got nothing to do with Vulcan Energy? BTW, the Reuters piece describes Vulcan Petroleum as an "affiliate" of Vulcan Energy. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Nobody: 10:44pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
wesley80: There lies the problem. What's the source of your quote as its obvious to me that the article is mischievous. Here's a quote from the Reuters article you graciously provided thelink above: '(Corrects company name to Vulcan Petroleum, which is not related to Paul Allen's Vulcan Energy)In case you missed it, this comes straight out of the article I posted. It would seem that, Vulcan Capital Energy is a new company created by Ford Graham and Kevin Davis to distance themselves from various (negative) past activities. Public records will show the various lawsuits against the numerous Vulcan entities. Moreover, we have come to understand that Ford Graham, Kevin Davis, and Vulcan Capital Energy are in no way associated with Paul Allen and his respective companies. The Sokoto State Government may want to accomplish a background check prior to giving these people any monies. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 10:45pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Am I speaking in tongues? |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by VoodooDoll(m): 10:45pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
wesley80: There lies the problem. What's the source of your quote as its obvious to me that the article is mischievous. Here's a quote from the Reuters article you graciously provided thelink above: '(Corrects company name to Vulcan Petroleum, which is not related to Paul Allen's Vulcan Energy)Where did you see that? And how do you miss the clear correction at the top and then just plain make stuff up. Do you think that if Paul Allen's Vulcan PE was involved that the headlines would be so lame and tame, and that FGN would not demand or seek to bask itself in the reflected glow of Microsoft. Bloomsberg would have [blown up] with news alerts, news comments, articles. The WSJ, FT and newswires would have jumped that Nigeria is the next China blah blah blah. Sometimes I do wonder whether computers and smart phones should be allowed for all, as some are clearly to dull to use it as they unleash their immense buffoonery on us all. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Musiwa2: 10:51pm On Jul 10, 2012*. Modified: 2:30am On Jul 20, 2022 |
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| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 10:51pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Public records will show the various lawsuits against the numerous Vulcan entities.This is the part that should send signals off. The Vulcan company here in the States located in downtown NY, is registered with 10 employees and the company does not even have functional answering system in place. I have been calling to get someone to confirm that this is the same Vulcan but since I have gotten no confirmation, I cannot speak on them much. The name on the phone is a man named Amwell who says to leave a message for him. Then there is the confusing number of names . . . Vulcan Energy, Vulcan Petroleum, Vulcan Capital Management,Vulcan Power, Vulcan Advanced . . .I mean it is all over the place. You would think that a multi-billion dollar firm would be able to handle that. It reminds me too much of a fraud. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by wesley80(m): 11:02pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
^^ I agree it all seems a bit confusing with all the names flying abt, but how do you explain thenumerous lawsuits, the Iraqi power projects etc surely there has got to be something big about the org. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Musiwa2: 11:04pm On Jul 10, 2012*. Modified: 2:29am On Jul 20, 2022 |
vg |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 11:05pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
It is up to government to INVESTIGATE every firm that it deals with or chooses to deal with. In our case, all the Government has to do is look at the company's track record from places like Sokoto. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by wesley80(m): 11:13pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
VoodooDoll: Where did you see that? And how do you miss the clear correction at the top and then just plain make stuff up.I sincerely hope I'm not staying up this late responding to depraved thots of some troubled mowron. I didn't right the article neither did I provide the original link, it was Kobo's for Christs sake. And here it is in full for the benefit of your aching brain. (Corrects company name to Vulcan Petroleum, which is not related to Paul Allen's Vulcan Energy)af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL6E8I2GKX20120702?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=true |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Kobojunkie: 11:15pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
I sincerely hope I'm not staying up this late responding to depraved thots of some troubled mowron. I didn't right the article neither did I provide the original link, it was Kobo's for Christs sake. And here it is in full for the benefit of your aching brain.@Kobojunkie DID Not write any articles. I simply posted the article with CORRECTION included. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by Nobody: 11:23pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
@All, Having debunked the notion that Vulcan Petroleum Resources is in fact capable of delivering six new oil refineries, I think it is time we beamed the spotlight on its local partner - Petroleum Refining and Strategic Reserve Ltd (headed by Chief Edozie Njoku). It is of equal concern to me that nothing of substance has been uncovered on the later company. Btw, like Kobojunkie, I did spend quality time this afternoon ringing various phone #s listed for some of the Vulcan entities before delving a little deeper, in anger ![]() |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by wesley80(m): 11:30pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: @Kobojunkie DID Not write any articles. I simply posted the article with CORRECTION included.Where did I say you wrote the article? Here's the relationship bw Paul Allens Vulcan Energy and Vulcan Capital capital.vulcan.com/ Either this is an elaborate scam or someone's yet to pick up some critical info. |
| Re: Is Vulcan Energy LLC Really Going To Build Six New Oil Refineries? by dedeike: 11:31pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
wesley80: I sincerely hope I'm not staying up this late responding to depraved thots of some troubled mowron. I didn't right the article neither did I provide the original link, it was Kobo's for Christs sake. And here it is in full for the benefit of your aching brain.pls Mr Wesley, don't waste your time joining issues with KOBJUNKIIE. Don't oblige someone who is paid to portray GEJ in bad light on NAIRALAND. The beauty of it all is that Nairalanders have come to understand who he is. They see through his antics and falsehood. They know his stock in trade. He's a vendor of every fake report against Jonathan. He usually buys his supplies from the SHOPRITE OF LIES - SAHARAREPORTERS and PREMIMUM TIMES. He has a Phobia for our usual dailies and has a blossoming romance with phony online media groups. |
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