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tiarabubu: ^^^^

Avail yourself of history books and records. Christianity spread all over the middle east and throughout the Roman Empire for 300 years after the death of Jesus without a conquests till Emperor Constantine started fighting. On the other hand Islam started on a war footing soon after the death of the Prophet by invading other land from Arabia to China . Please avail yourself the facts.


I dont believe in making sweeping statements such as the one you made: "The war in Iraq was a war for natural resources to sustain Christian ideologues" because (i)you can't prove it and (ii) its borne out of a desire to believe anything to justify your anger about what is happening.

You may feel the need to justify your faith. That's fine. I am not contesting anything but to interject and state the facts of the matter which I did. You will be wiser and can draw your own conclusions.

Whether it happened right away or 100yrs later is immaterial, all the religions have history of terrorism. You don't believe in making sweeping statements but you already made more than a fair share of them on this thread.

Terrorism is rampant in all religions, period!

Indebtness to society via the tools and ploy of capitalism is nothing but terrorism. Islam happens to be the only religion that prohibits indebtedness and we never hear people comment on this but everyone wants to beat the drum and play the tune of "Islam is Terror". No, Islam is not terror, mankind through his ego is a terror; depending on what ideology that ego chooses to express itself to torment and subdue people who do not share, and don't care to share its belief and values.

This thread opened to discuss and educate on Mr Macauley and for two years that mission has not been accomplished. Southerners call themselves educated. I am not sure you are. You know how to blow big grammar but you are less educated and informed than the Northerner.

Please please, im not here to discuss religion or politics. I came hrre to get cultural understanding. Ifa is yoruba culture and i have never seen pagans dress like this so i want to know.

I think this topic is misleading. This is like asking the question, " what is a legitimate marriage?" You either have a marriage or you dont, there's no legitimate marriage or illegitimate marriage.

You either have a jihad or you don't, nothing called "illegitimate jihad". Modify the topic.

tiarabubu: A real student of history would know that Christianity was spread throughout the middle east for the first 300 years without firing a single shot until the time of Constantine the Great who mixed religion and warfare and it led to the collapse of the Roman Empire. His attempt at killing for God and country partly led to his empires downfall.

A real student of history would know that as soon as the Prophet Mohammed passed away his followers began to spread Islam through UNPROVOKED wars of conquest by invading their neighbors and after 4 Centuries 2/3 of the Christian world was overrun; Lands of Iran, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Eygpt, Jordan, Turkey,Jerusalem, Spain, India, China. Tens of millions died in the hands of these invaders. It was in the course of invading Turkey that the Christian Emperor of Constantinople(modern day Turkey)called for aid against the invaders and in the year 1092 Pope Urban rallied troops to his aid and also to also free Jerusalem (where pilgrims were killed harassed and churches converted to stables).

That was what led to the Crusades; It was a belated attempt by Christendom to respond to Islamic expansion and aggression. As some point Christendom was in danger of being subsumed by Islam through a method it was least familiar with - Warfare.

Please study your history well. Don't depend on hearsay because if you had studied history well you would have known not to confuse dates as your "early 1000bc".

Now back to the thread.

Tiara, in the history of mankind there has not been a time when a message or a social order was propagated non-violently. Those who seek to spread their belief system among humankind must be prepared to meet monumental obstacle in fierce opposition to their ideology. The opposition create friction and antagonism which then lead to bloodletting. No religion whivh is today spread among mankind on every continent was without a violent and bloody past; none!

The war in Iraq was a war for natural resources to sustain Christian ideologues. It was not a war against terror. In retaliation for 3000 American lives the lives and livelihood of over a million people more is destroyed. Where is the sense in that? Regardless, all of the three mainstream religions have blood on their hands. No exception, you can call it terror, you can call it democracy, call it crusade or jihad, call it capitalism if you want, it's all bloody and destructive.

Subhanallah! Please do not say that. No there is no sharing between paganism and Islam. I saw this picture in flckr of yoruba people sitting in front of an ifa priest and the ifa man had his head covered with a shawl. There is another one in youtube i bumped into accidentaly and it looked like a town festival and there were spiritual or pagan priests with white head cover. Now i see this posted picture online and i want ti know two things from yoruba peiple. number 1, why the head covered? 2. what is the priest doing in this picture? He held something in hand.

The other two pictures is for comparison and thats a muslim and jew with shawl cover for prayer. In my religion covrring head has a deeper spiritual meaning,its more than the ordinary prayer.

I've come across online images of yoruba spiritualist using head coverslike this one. First time was flckr image, then a youtube and now this one. What are they doing in picture, why is unbeliever have a shawl over head? Only muslims and jews do so in prayer. Thanks

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Regulation says every person on board an airborne aircraft must be tied down. A belt has to be customized for him, the seat and aisle must be rearranged to fit him. then they run the risk of overload and aircraft cant lift off runway. mehn, nobody has time for all that.

RIP big boy!

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