₦airaland Forum

chrisooblog:
I thought you were going to speak to the transport infrastructure of your zone not just free movement.

Trading will still be difficult despite an accessible passport if SA companies can get raw materials from Mozambique, Zambia, Zimbabwe due to poor roads or rail infrastructure in the said countries.

Happy Easter everyone!

SA, Namibia, botswana, lesotho and eswatini there are no restrictions

chrisooblog:
The more important question for me would be how good is the free movement in your trade zone in terms of logistics, infrastructure and cost of movement of goods e.g. good road network between countries, railway, air travel etc.

For ECOWAS people are able to move freely without much hassle at least for Nigeria but the logistics of moving goods isn't so great with quality of connecting roads in various countries ranging from great to absolutely terrible.

Plus the customs and law enforcement in different countries vary in their extortion levels.

free movement here one just need passport, good are free


No cases of extortion, i think the only real difference is that the southern people don't really speak a lot about how efficient, smooth and advancing we are

theenchanter:
I don't think there's any African bloc that has free movement of people and goods or removing economic barriers than ecowas.

That shit has been existing since the early 80's if I'm not wrong.

Then you surely dont know SACU

Kelklein:
This actually makes alot of sense.. it ultimately helps to devolve Development instead of overfocusing on Abuja.

South Africa used the same strategy.. with about three different capitals around the country in J'burg, Pretoria and Cape Town all developing side by side..

Johannesburg is not a capital city

Pretoria, bloemfontein and cape Town are

Kewekubosineh:
Yes. South Africa has Four as capitals.

No its 3 capitals not 4

Obiano13:
I think SAns are crying loudest tbh due to pepfar. Very few Kenyans are complaining in fact we are generally okay with it. Politicians now have to choose between selfishly living large and spending on useless luxuries or spending on the healthcare of their people. When you hear your politicians say there is no money for drugs, they are simply saying there is no money for anything else other than their own comfort.

Pepfar only accounts to 17% of ARV budget

Rest of 83% is funded by our own government

Blazebond:
Military rankings are stupid and idiotic,which wars have the Egyptian and South African armies fought in the last ten year's? I know the Algerian army fought against insurgents in their country,but when have they come out to fight in any peacekeeping operation in Africa? Nigeria is the undisputed number one fighting force in Africa and the records are there for all to see,nor be chochocho,we dey show workings and it is clear for all to see,mumu Egyptian army and South African army when nor get head.

Our soldiers have been deployed different parts of the world

GeneralDae:
Much of the inflation is also caused by the devaluation. Once there is currency stability or appreciation for a full year, it would have a pass through effect on inflation.

It's been rising also even now it's at 36%

Wish you all the best in curbing it

Egypt alsi experiencing high inflation

gallivant:
Your numbers are not backed by any source. Spare us the BS this year.

Worldometer estimates that Kenya's population in 2024 will be 56,432,944, a 1.98% increase from 2023.

Trading Economics estimates that Kenya's population in 2024 will be around 52.60 million.

Macrotrends estimates that Kenya's population in 2024 will be 56,203,030, a 2% increase from 2023.

The Kenya National Bureau of Statistics estimates that Kenya's population in mid-2024 will be 52,428,290.

WorkBank estimated kenya at 56m

But it's ok 53m it doesn't matter

GeneralDae:
Nigeria has not rebased for over 10 years now (Rebasing should be done every 5 years). When the rebasing is done it would capture the nominal GDP vis-a-vis the double devaluation of the naira that saw the official rate drop 3.5 times what it was in May 2023 (from 460 to 1530). But Nigeria’s GDP even in real terms has been growing.

Do you know Inflation can erode any gains, and Nigeria's inflation is at over 30%

gallivant:
About those strawman arguments...

Kenya Data & Stats
@Stats_Kenya
Kenya's projected population in 2025 is 53.3 million people. 24 counties have more than a million people, while the remaining half have less than a million people.

1. Nairobi 4,906,000
2. Kiambu 2,754,000
3. Nakuru 2,445,000
4. Kakamega 2,073,000
5. Bungoma 1,845,000
6. Meru 1,666,000
7. Machakos 1,518,000
8. Kilifi 1,489,000
9. Kisii 1,370,000
10. Mombasa 1,368,000
11. Narok 1,355,000
12. Kajiado 1,328,000
13. Uasin Gishu 1,307,000
14. Migori 1,292,000
15. Kisumu 1,290,000
16. Homabay 1,278,000
17. Kitui 1,259,000
18. Muranga 1,136,000
19. Trans-Nzoia 1,108,000
20. Siaya 1,097,000
21. Turkana 1,074,000
22. Makueni 1,065,000
23. Mandera 1,007,000
24. Busia 1,006,000
25. Kwale 988,000
26. Nandi 982,000
27. Kericho 980,000
28. Garissa 971,000
29. Bomet 965,000
30. Wajir 915,000
31. Nyeri 853,000
32. Baringo 764,000
33. Nyandarua 721,000
34. West Pokot 706,000
35. Nyamira 665,000
36. Kirinyaga 664,000
37. Embu 662,000
38. Vihiga 636,000
39. Laikipia 583,000
40. Marsabit 539,000
41. Elgeyo-Marakwet 509,000
42. Tharaka-Nithi 425,000
43. Taita-Taveta 373,000
44. Tana River 370,000
45. Samburu 367,000
46. Isiolo 330,000
47. Lamu 176,000

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgRjBPWWsAAHkjk.png

world bank, Cia, n others say 56m

53-56 ill choose to be different at 54.5m

chrisooblog:
Please don't ask such a sensitive question we're going through a lot right now as a country

But in all seriousness I'm optimistic that the worst is over we had to undergo a hard (harsh!) reset.

hope that works out just fine.

rvp2018:
Most of your ships are carrying useless polluting coal.

Coal is money

Can we not have straw man discussions this year,

On another note

What happened to Nigeria

rvp2018:
Evidence? Or the usual diarhoea?

Statista? Makes sense

Even with kenyan population its says 53m while everyone says 56m

rvp2018:
Mombasa port hit 2M TEUS. Durban is normally at 2.5-2.7M.
It grew by 25%
So if we keep the momentum
Mombasa port will exceed Durban in two years.

And again what those ships carry is what's more important, a port can be busy transporting tea leaves, coffee, fruits and vegs

While the other is transporting machinery, vehicles, equipment,........

rvp2018:
Mombasa port hit 2M TEUS. Durban is normally at 2.5-2.7M.
It grew by 25%
So if we keep the momentum
Mombasa port will exceed Durban in two years.

Lol Durban port at its worst was doing 3.6 TEU, since then its been going up

Plus its going expansion to have caoacity of 11TEU by 2030

temiflex01:
Fake rankings, Russia wey no fit handle Ukraine without North Korea's help. Where is North Korea? Where is Isreal ?
So South Africa wey we assist for war strong pass Nigeria? Mumu rankings

Without EU, canada and USA, Ukraine would have surrendered long ago

So it's been Russia against 30+ countries... That should tell you something

Obiano13:
All that nonsense will be undone. Kenyans are not foolish. The day we saw him seated like a spouse in the white house we knew they were planning to use him for nefarious purposes in Kenya and around the region.

it's done

Obiano13:
He will not get that chance. He has conceded and withdrawn the finance bill. Between now and 2027 when Kenyans vote him out of office he will have it rough. He won't do anything that Kenyans don't approve. The dictator has been culled. Now he finally knows the people have the ultimate supreme power thanks to the constitution he vehemently opposed in 2010 because he envisioned it culling his appetite for power, money, and tyranny one day. Even if he bribes all legislators the average citizens will still have their way. Doesn't matter how many billions he loots and buys politicians with.

You know he signed land deal with USA?

gallivant:
You seem okay with the status quo in Haiti, unsympathetic, butt hurt coupled with jealousy. Please take time to heal.

I got nothing to be jealous of

Anyway you'll will come to a realisation one way or the other

gallivant:
Haiti has no minerals. It's a barren place. Only Kenya cares enough for the people of Haiti. Also, those Kenyans will get paid top dollars plus allowances to fight in Haiti. This is not our first time sending soldiers overseas.

How much will they be paid?

You not sending, US is paying you like six other nations including Jamaica, Benin, Chad and Bangladesh.... I mean Bangladesh, benin, chad the caliber of countries there

By the way Haiti has Bauxite, copper, calcium carbonate, gold, and marble

gallivant:
On lease, my guy.

Lol i swear you so ignorant and naive for your own good...

Kenya called them.... The day they leave be it forced or voluntary, yall will surely feel the consequences

jl115:
You think Nicky is in the same league with his measly $9.5 bil??

You might want to read the bolded carefully and try to understand why it doesn't make sense

Vatican city, is roman empire headquarters they claim Christianity yet they move against its beliefs

jl115:
You think Nicky is in the same league with his measly $9.5 bil??

You might want to read the bolded carefully and try to understand why it doesn't make sense

Declared $9.5 bil

He's part of the larger Zi clique definitely, he operates like them, he moves like them. He funds all political parties with conditions. He manipulates media n stuff

jl115:
Chill my dude...just old Nicky

Lol just like bill gates

A group of Zionists running the world, why is even vatican city at the G7 summit? In your opinion

gallivant:
That's a special club. Malema politics is keeping you out. There will be no foreign bases in Kenya because of a few riots. Your analysis is way way off.

Lol Zelensky was also invited to the whitehouse, congress, g7, g20.... They abandoning him now

Look at everyone invited Zelesky was convinced to go into war with Russia, Ruto was convinced to send kenyans to Haiti because the us wants minerals in Haiti, so they'll use kenya as a proxy.

gallivant:
That's a special club. Malema politics is keeping you out. There will be no foreign bases in Kenya because of a few riots. Your analysis is way way off.

Nanyuki site is british
Simba camp is American

The US wanted an ally, Ruto was looking for support from US and IMF... Unfortunately IMF wanted transparency from kenya and that includes key policy changes like increasing tax on basic goods, Tax on Internet. Kenyan youth is protesting because of IMF stipulations.

It's sad you don't see it now but you will see it soon, USA is not friends of kenya

jl115:
ahhh because the Jews fund them!

Lol yes, infact its Zionist hidding behind the jew banner

Recent the biggest manipulators, propagators.... If the can manipulate/buy off congressmen in US. They can do to any country following west ideology

jl115:
DA grew by 1% Eff down by 2%

DA is at a point it was over 10 years ago

EFF hit a glass ceiling

MK won but lost

gallivant:
You have to wait for the elections to exercise your rights directly. Come back to earth please.

What's your take on the saga

Obiano13:
If your very own people reject you to the last man and the entire country rejects you to the last man, you have to be incompetent beyond comprehension. There are towns that have never been known to protest where the residents woke at 4 am to protest. And in typical African tin pot dictator fashion, Ruto will now want to fight the entire country alone despite all advise. He will even want help from the Americans as their puppet. Then in the end he will end up like a dog in a ditch. No one wants his black ass here. Its way past the talking stage. Kenyans told him for over a month to drop the bill but since he and his cronies were the biggest beneficiaries he decided to bulldoze it through parliament by giving each MP 2 million shs to vote yes. His office alone was getting billions, He even created non existent offices for his wife (office of the spouse of the president), the deputy president's office (office of the spouse of the dp), the prime cabinet secretaries spouse's office etc as conduits for corruption and funded them in every budget with hundreds of billions each year. Kenyans told the idiots such offices are unconstitutional and should not exist in the first place let alone be funded. But the nigga, in typical dictator fashion told kenyans its not their business. So an idiot like Ruto has a salary, receives money for his office to the tune of billions each budget, also receives money through his wife's office to the tune of billions. Then the niggas walk around in titanium watches, shoes, belts, and cadillacs each worth millions. They dont even have any moral bearing. They cant even hide such wanton theft from the eyes of the common man. In the last one year Ruto spent 1 Billion Kenya shillings just for furniture in statehouse. That is 7,751,937.90 United States Dollars in one year just to buy sofa sets that no one even needed. Well, ofcourse no sofa set was bought, the nigga pocketed all that money but budgeted it. Kenyans want a complete end to budgeted corruption. As much as 1/3 of this year's proposed budget of 4 Trillion Kshs was going to budgeted corruption like such. That is a whooping 8 billion USD going into Ruto's and his chronies' pockets. And we cannot question because we are his willing slaves. Nigga please. Its now way past the talking stage. He and his loyal servants the MPs can vacate the country or retire honorably and let Kenyans chart a new course devoid of such wanton theft. Even Uhuru at his worst was never this bad. Uhuru borrowed 6 Trillion kshs in 10 years and build infrastructure we can all see, from the expressway to the new SGR to Lamu Port to highways in every corner of the country. Ruto, the lord of poverty, in one year and 10 months that he has been in office has borrowed a whooping 5.2 trillion and NO ONE in Kenya can tell you what he has done. He has built no road or anything else. Instead he has reversed free education and made univerisity fess tripple because the govt 'no longer can afford'. Maternity care that used to be free he has been reversed, hospitals no longer have medicine because money has been eaten. And on top of that he wants Kenyans to pay more taxes, including for getting cancer treatment. He must be so diabolical. If I gave a complete list of Kenyans' bewilderment at this maniac's decisions you will shudder. In the next weeks if he doesnt resign he will be dragged through the streets like a dog.

You still remember the time i warned kenyans about Ruto?

I told them they should expect things to go south
Haiti story, warned them he is just aiding US neocolonilism

He's been invited to the white house, G7, now kenya announced US non NATO allie

Now kenya will be used as gateway to further destabilise the region as it has foreign military bases

But im glad the youth are waking up now