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Vokog:
I would like to preface the body of my post with this caveat: I am not a Muslim. In fact, I am an atheist, and I have been an atheist for two years, and I am still am atheist. I was formally christian and I have no affiliation with Islam whatsoever. The only affiliation I have with Islam, is that the people who subscribe to it are humans like myself, and as such, they don't deserve to be smeared, stereotyped, and painted in a negative light, to further an agenda. That's essentially why I decided to create this thread - To disillusion people from the lies that they have been made to believe about Islam and about terrorism.

I am not going to bore anyone with a long op. What I'd do however, is that I will allow anyone who wants contribute to air their own arguments about why they think the premise of my post is wrong, or why they think Islamic terrorism is an inherently Islamic phenomenon and I'll refute EVERY argument.

Mods, please don't move this to the Muslim section. It would defeat its purpose.

Islam can say the terrorists doesn't represent it, but the terrorists are the creation of Islamic indoctrination.

Again, if you understand the neural processes, by which the emotion of love and anger/hate, are activated, by suggestion. Then you will know, how Quranic verses, that incites violence, can create terrorists.

aminusanti:
My friend waste no time on this confused clown felixomor , he is well known for derailing thread here on NL

Kikikikikikiki..... He's Now felixomoron. That dude stinks all over.

iSpirit1:
@Akiintom


MzLady39 has answered you on my behalf.

She has answered, as far as I know, all your questions. So, I think I should save my strength for another question/time.

Be reasonable not to ask answered questions over and over again.

The day you understand the meaning reasonableness, your religious delusion will be cured.

MZLady39:
Cute illustration....but again I will say that with love comes "freedom" (on behalf of Adam & Eve to choose) & "vulnerability" (on behalf of a loving God who desires intimacy with His children)..as it would be in other types of loving relationships.
The problem is that you don't know or understand the character of the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. You don't understand that He is "love".

Of course, I do understand the meaning of "love" (thoughts and acts that are devoid of intelligence, reason, empathy, care, affection and tenderness), as far as God of Abraham is concerned.

MZLady39:
Because when you truly love someone (who is capable of rational thought--not animals or young children), then you give them "freedom"....(the option to "choose" ).
You would hope that he/she would develop an intimate relationship with you....and be in the relationship because heshe actually "wants" to be there....
In a marriage, the vows say, "For better or worse", "In sickness and in health".....
However, the option to stay or walk away is always present. Many people choose to leave.
Adam & Eve chose to disobey.
However, if the option was never there, then a person becomes a robot.....

It would then be "force"..
God is not a God of force.

Your answer be like:

Collyno82:
Read this verse of the bible. Psalms 14 vs 1. Please don't take it personal, view it in the context of our earlier discuss; Do God substantially exist. Thanks n good morning sir

Your proof looks like this:

Collyno82:
Yes am 100% sure he exist. so many proofs abound. Do u read & believed the words of the bible? let me no before I proceed

I have read and do read the Bible. The Bible is a collection of myths, superstitions, legends, history, poetry, songs, allegories etc.

Your many proofs, had better be substantial proofs!

Waiting....

Collyno82:
are u implying that God doesn't exist?

You're the one who claimed God exist, you're to present proofs here.

Harbdulrasaq:
First of all, how do you even have the heart to beat a pregnant woman to the point of death? That’s exactly what happened in the village of Falu in Guyuk LGA.

The 32-year-old woman was beaten with sticks until she died, all because they suspected her of being responsible of some sinister occurrences in the town.

This sad incident was confirmed to newsmen by the Commissioner of Police in Adamawa, Mr. Moses Jitoboh. Jitoboh said:“ She was attacked with sticks, rope and killed by five suspects on the allegation that the deceased was a witch, who was responsible for the deaths and sickness of persons in the town of Falu.

Five suspects have been arrested in connection with the crime. They are; Abraham Adamu, 18, Malachi Yilafane, 35, Thomas Aji, 54, Zakariya Chorum, 56 and Miss Newana Ilihal, 20.


http://www.newshelmng.com/2017/06/pregnant-woman-beaten-to-death-in.html

cc lalasticlala

Christians will now say that Christianity, can be held responsible for the acts of five Christians.

But Christianity is guilty of creating these five monsters, via its heinous doctrines.

AND THEY THAT LACK BELIEF, HAVE ENTERED THEIR REST

Acts of atheists 2:1-12

1. All thanks be unto Reason, who has always cause us to use our brains, by which we have come to know, how to both be rational and emotional.

2. To the homos, who are in fear induced "love" relationships, with Yahweh and Allah, i write.

3. Remember that you knew no Gods, when you were yet children, but your parents and environment, who were victims of assumptions of primitive and perplexed early men, began to feed your impressionable minds, with forced beliefs and worship of imaginary entity, named God.

4. Do you remember how you were rudely woken up, at the hour that you were savouring the sweet 5am sleep? Just to talk and sing to the imaginary God. You were also deceived, that the gods talks to you, via the book of tales.

5. Some of you go through this routine 5 times a day (what a possessive god you serve). At school and work place, you go through same routine (what a God hard in hearing you serve). Doesn't these repetitive emotional gymnastics, weary your minds?

6. Who has burdened your mind and body, with these needless and useless behavior? Don't you see that it's all illusion?

7. I speak now to the slaves of Yahweh. You probably have worked Monday to Saturday, and on Sunday like this, that you ought to give yourself the needed rest, you're off to the places where you'll both be mentally and physically drained.

8. You were told, because you believed Yahweh, you have entered into rest. Do you really understand what thou heareth?

9. The rest that was sold to you, is that mind, that's numbed with the illusion of a "miraculous intervention", in your affairs, by imaginary Yahweh.

10. That illusionary rest, gets a rude reality trash, when the "miraculous help", kept forever time of arrival. Many of you are now disillusioned, saying Yahweh has failed you.

11. To you skeptics and disillusioned, rejoice, again i say be glad, for you can now find rest, by putting your brains to work. Then shall your answers come, at the very time you want them.

12. Come unto me, all you that are bound by the illusion of "divine intervention", and you shall find true rest. Says Reason.

Cheers

#Epistole#

Collyno82:
All of them within the Godhead substantially exists as distinct personalities

Take God, and show or prove its substantial existence.

Collyno82:
yes of course. I do, it has to do with having existence or substance. also it is the state of things as they actually exist.

OK, which of the Godhead members, has substantial existence?

Collyno82:
Thanks bro. You can establish the reality of the Godhead through the words of our Lord Jesus Christ himself. In the book of In Matthew 28:19-20, Jesus gave His disciples the Great Commission, stating that they were to teach and baptize in the names of the Godhead , "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
Furthermore 1 John 5:7 states "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one .

Do you understand what reality means?

Collyno82:
U can't rule out the elements of myths, legends and even superstitious beliefs in bible cosmology as u choose to put it, but the greater percentage of the biblical eschatology deals with the reality of the Godhead, and also with a vivid representation of real essence and existence of Jehovah

How can you establish the "reality" of this Godhead?

zionmade1:
Onye iberibe ama ghi ihe, agadi nwoke is akpakoghi onu, anumanu iquiqui

Wish you same in 100 folds!

Kikikikikikiki...

NIGERIAN CHURCHES FOR SALE!

Acts of atheists 1:1-8

1. These are the things that Reason, began to tell me, while i was in deep introspection.

2. While i was in the realm of thoughts, Reason lead me by Google, and behold, i saw churches that are increasingly becoming redundant, and put up for sale in Europe.

https://www.churchofengland.org/clergy-office-holders/pastoralandclosedchurches/closedchurches/closed-churches-available.aspx

3. I then said to Reason, how could the churches have come to this pitiable end?

4. Reason said to me: the foundation on which the concept of religious beliefs and congregation are founded, is purely assumptive. And as rational and evidential system of thinking take dominance, churches will gradually become redundant.

5. Then came the prospective fate of Nigerian churches. Reason said to me: few decades ago, no one would have believed the fate of churches in Europe today.

6. Because of the increasing population of skeptics, agnostics, atheists etc in Nigeria now, in few years to come, the Nigerian churches shall also begin to be put up for sale.

7. How shall we make the best of these coming fate of Nigerian churches? I asked Reason. Reason said; prepare to buy them, you shall convert them to schools, clubhouses, game houses, casinos, Socrates' clusters etc.

8. Write these things that you have heard, for they shall come to pass. Says Reason. Cheers!

#AtheistDiary#

zionmade1:
Yeah i pay for sick people to go and get healed in d healing school.
And once on nairaland I offered to sponsor anyone who would want to attend d healing school. Yeah call me a Christian extremist, on my pastor's birthday i go to d streets and put smiles on d faces of destitutes in my city. That is my type of extremism, sponsoring children to school through d inner city mission, thats my extremism, giving everything i have to ensure on or two kids leave d streets and slums to school, thats my extremism. I can also sponsor a madman like u to healing school because i really something is missing in ur brain, i can also sponsor u to a psychiatric hospital where they can place u with insane people of ur class.

Kikikikikikiki.......... Akidanidani, afokun gbekun'mu !

iSpirit1:
I've already explained why satan sinned.

He misused his freewill and corrupted himself.

You didn't answer poo!

Your God created Satan and other creatures, with the purpose of having loving and sweet fellowship with them.

If that's is true, why did God create in them, the ability to do what will destroy that singular purpose.

Why will you use your money, to build a house, that can collapse eventually, when you could build one that will not?

MummyBOyigbo:
This is to inform Nairaland that Prophetess Mummy B Worldwide AKA Mummy B worldwide has officially join Nairaland on the advice of her son ProsperOkec
You can watch my program friday RSTV.

We will upload our healing service every Thursday with evidence.
This will also encourage other big pastors to not only join Facebook but our African social media Nairaland.


Visit our ministry website mummybworldwide.com

Stay tuned
God Bless

Stepping on the stomach of that sample for your gimmicks, you might damage her internal organs, you know that?

Or you didn't realize that your weight, is almost 3 times, that of the gullible or accomplice, directly under your foot?

zionmade1:
Lol yeah some days are like that wen dealing with some kind of persons.
But naming boko haram on this thread shows ur level of senselessness. Even if pun was intended, a wrong pun in a wrong event is tentamount to foolishness

Again, you have just confirmed, how those who drink from Chris Oyakhilome' filths, can become cognitively dysfunctional.

If your likes are not tamed, you'll maim for Oyakhilome, and murder for yahweh.

Pathetic bunch!

zionmade1:
This thread is for my church,.......... Do a little research on my moniker..

u will know dat i can preach d gospel

as well as DAMAGE UR DESTINY WITH INSULTS.

I rest my case. Next time u see me comment mention me again and i will show u wat paul meant by two edged sword

*boko haram members, need to come to this guy, for apprenticeship in act of violent savagery!

MZLady39:
I don't know if I can answer why "sin" affects all....but it clearly does...
The greater question is how did sin originate in a perfect Heaven...in an angel who was basically second in command behind the Godhead...who had to be expelled from the Kingdom down to earth....
That is called, the "mystery of iniquity"....

" mystery of iniquity" is a creation of men, that can't explain why Satan sinned.

I expect that you can now see, that the whole biblical cosmology, is completely mythical and superstitious.

Origin:
If you at hungry won't you give more when you know how an hungry man feels.

* have you taken your time, to think through this baseless statement of yours?

Must you regurgitate anything your imam told you verbatim?

* in case you insist, would you have to guzzle acid, for you to know it's sprite to those who drank it or intend to drink it?

iSpirit1:
Are infants born again? if yes, how?

Oh yes, anyone who is born again is saved from sin.


Simply ask questions and you'll get answers. For your last two point, I'll reserve the answers. but take note that those are not contradictions. Are infants born again? if yes, how?

Oh yes, anyone who is born again is saved from sin.


Simply ask questions and you'll get answers. For your last two point, I'll reserve the answers. but take note that those are not contradictions.

You're the one who claimed infants are sinners, because of Adam and Eve.

But your Bible says the soul that sin shall die. Against visiting the sin of Adam on infants.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Do you now understand your self contradicting position?

iSpirit1:
To answer that first paragraph:

"the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon the righteous. . .the parent's righteousness cannot be accorded to the child"

And the 2nd:

"for by the sin of one man, Adam, ALL were made sinners".



Also, read the answer I gave earlier, again.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.


You're contradicting yourself here.

*you have said on this thread, that infants are sinners, because they came from Adam and Eve.

*you said born again Christian are exempted from consequences of sin.

You see how confused your God is?

*first Yahweh said he will visit sin, to 4th generation.

*with the same mouth, he said the soul that sin shall die.

greenermodels:
after the Hausa vs Yoruba clash at ife,only yorubas were arrested including an oba,they're still unjustly detained till today plus many other problems affecting the yorubas but you hardly see them agitate or discuss their problems rather they would be moving from one igbo thread to another spewing hatred over what is not their concern. a famous sage said that "an unexamined life is not worth living"

I nominate you for the position of VP to Kanu. You get passion for biafra, pass the passion to the Christ!

bennyann:
Oya ask him

Na white i wear today, and no Felix will be allowed to stain me.

bennyann:
Under the oath ke.. Which one is that again?

Please leave my Felix for me ooo and I leave brother Hope for you for now

On one condition will i wave aside, the ridiculous act of this your Felix, and that's if he's in his early 20s.

BIAFRA @50: A DESIRE DEVOID OF HUMANISM

I was on the page of Emeka Ugwuonye (administrator of DPA) yesterday, with the sole aim of psychoanalysing the euphoria, with which most Igbos (99% less than 50 years in age) on is page, savored what they called a successful implementation of the no movement order, slammed on SE geopolitical zone, by IPOB and its allies.

I was of the view that, the no movement order, was an overreaching exercise of right to freedom of expression, by IPOB, and that issuing a subtle threat to violators of their order, amounts to criminal intention.

Those who took me up on that page, wanted all these, justified on the ground that, they have unrestricted right, to observe biafra Memorials.

If in deed, that Memorial, is all about the condolence commemoration, of the lives lost, in avoidable or needless war, then, what happened across the SE yesterday, isn't only devoid of memorial, it glorified a hurtful way of remembering the dead loved ones.

Watching the Memorials of Hiroshima and Sept 11th, showed a deeply touching Memorials, that placed value on empathy, love, care and respect for the dead.

I think that, instead of what i termed, a show of political relevance, by the neo biafra dream actors, yesterday should have been used, to demonstrate to the imaginary "maginalizationists" of the SE, that the biafra nation, is such an utopian entity (kept in view), that knows how to caress, the memory of dead, to the existent that the living, would have wished they were dead.

Those who understand the game of politics, especially the act of negotiation for cherished interests, are positioning for 2019 already.

The SE can again choose, to dance to the illusionary music of a Kanu, who now find inspiration in Judaism (a religion guiding those, who have never known peace, since they insist that Yahweh gave them certain land for inheritance).