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bennyann:
Heii

Akin o ni pa mi oo. If he is as good as you, shouldn't I be scared?

You know We have to follow each other before a pm can be sent. So please send me a pm let me see how I can reply.

But please keep your cool OK.

Contact this via request or msg thomasakingbade. I'm following u now.

Amberon:
, morality tells us that it is totally wrong. ?

Who authored the "speaking" morality?

Amberon:
Homosexuality has not and can never be natural. It is very very unnatural and IS EVEN A MENTAL ILLNESS

Homosexuality a mental illness?

Do you have scientific pinnings for this?

zionmade1:
Yes its blw.
No matter wat u have to open ur dirty mouth to say none of ur great grannies have smelt and none of ur future lineage will smell d greatness of pst Chris. With all ur life CV and experience u wont still qualify to be his gateman.
Yes am proud of him his success is replicated in his followers. D greatest of Christian musicians in dis country came from under his training. He may be divorced but certainly divorce on its own is not a sin in d bible. His kids are doing perfectly well in their career and i dnt care how u and ur perfect big bang wife and big bang children stay together ur children will never match his.
So wat exactly are u talking about? Young men are doing big things for God, wat impact has ur life made? Rather dan coming to NL to spread ur ugly big bang ideas.
Who listens to an atheist nowadays?

I guess you'll need wipe now, to manage the tears from your eyes, following bitter cries.

Sorry for your pains.

https://www.nairaland.com/3814901/four-reasons-why-educated-folks#56775092
The above link, gives an in depth analysis on the subject matter.

4. SOCIAL CONFORMITY

And finally, people who did not grow up thoroughly enveloped by a community of faith will find it difficult to appreciate how heavily the social pressure to remain faithful keeps us from freely embracing our own cognitive dissonance. I recall clearly how apprehensive I became each time I collided with my own inner skeptic, realizing how costly it would be for me if my pursuit of reality ever led me outside the Christian fold.

I knew long before I finally became honest with myself that I could lose everything, and for the most part I was right. When your whole life is built around an idea, challenging that idea shakes you to the core of who you are, both psychologically and socially. For some of us, this threatens to demolish our entire world.

Rejecting religion doesn’t cost much when you grow up outside of a deeply devout context. It’s a relatively easy path to follow. But that’s not the case for all of us. For some of us it was a big deal .

And that’s why we hold on to irrational beliefs long after our own critical thinking skills seem like they should have outgrown these inferior ideas. Those ideas were always privileged for us, and it’s not as easy as it sounds to shake them when they are the very house in which you live.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessindixie/2015/10/09/why-do-intelligent-well-educated-people-still-believe-nonsense/

3. SUGGESTED MENTAL ABUSE

Another thing which is almost impossible to grasp if you were never devout is how deeply we were taught to distrust ourselves. The notion of sin and human brokenness is bedrock to the Christian message, and the church drove this home to us before we even learned to read and write. We learned at an early age that human reasoning cannot be trusted. “The heart is deceitful above all things,” the Bible teaches. It goes on to say :

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

With a narrative like that, is it any wonder that Christians grow up suspicious of the life of the mind? We were taught to distrust our own intellects even within those subcultures which otherwise valued science, education, and exploration (I know that’s inconsistent but see point #1). We learned early on that when our powers of logic and reasoning conflict with the teachings of our faith, we should privilege “what God says” over what anyone else thinks makes sense. Who can disagree with God himself, amirite?

2. MENTAL CONDITIONING DURING HIGHLY IMPRESSIONABLE AGE

Another thing you must realize is that very intelligent people will believe very nonsensical things if you get to them young enough. When you grow up in an environment which takes for granted that a system of belief is sacred, your knowledge base and your critical thinking skills grow up around that belief structure in such a way as to leave it undisturbed.

In fact, an argument could be made that without the checks and balances of the scientific method, human reasoning only serves to rationalize and validate the emotional content already in place in our psyches from our earliest years. We think in order to rationalize what we already believe.

Have you ever seen a tree that’s grown up around a fence post, enveloping it as if it is a part of the tree itself? That happens when the post was there before the tree was even a sapling. Intelligence and education are like that as well. If you can instill a belief structure in a developing mind early enough, all the reasoning powers of that individual will develop around those beliefs in such a way as to leave them undisturbed.

Those critical thinking skills may even become proficient at challenging belief systems outside the one around which they grew, but it’s a completely different skill set to learn to turn them inward, challenging the core beliefs which were already in place before those skills were developed.

1. COMPARTMENTAL INTELLIGENCE

The first thing you have to realize is that intelligence is compartmental. By that I mean that people who employ sharp wit and critical thinking about one area of life (or even multiple areas) can still remain almost juvenile about a number of others. One need only look at how adept many of history’s greatest thinkers were at parsing ideas related to their own field of expertise but were complete disasters in their personal lives because they could never wrap their heads around the intricacies of human social interaction.

To see what I mean by compartmental intelligence, look no further than presidential candidate Ben Carson , who distinguished himself as a pioneering brain surgeon but who displays the political acumen of a remedial third grader. As a presidential candidate I must say he makes a fine neurosurgeon.

Or consider another less-well-known medical example whom I’ve mentioned here before : The last Sunday School teacher I had before leaving the church is a world-class oncologist who chairs an international committee on research protocols in his medical field, but he also studies “creation science” as a hobby. He uses up-to-date, state-of-the-art treatments for fighting cancer but gets all of his geological theories from the Institute for Creation Research, which quit putting out new theories in the early 1970’s (or as some would argue, in the late Bronze Age).

How are these contradictions possible, you say? They are possible because intelligence is compartmental. We must be ever on our guard against the halo effect, which is that tendency to ascribe to individuals who are distinguished in one field an authority which they do not deserve in others.

For example, just because Albert Einstein was an expert in astrophysics doesn’t mean he was an authority in politics, philosophy, or metaphysics (if there is such a thing as an expert in that). It shouldn’t lend much weight to either believers’ or nonbelievers’ arguments that this famous person or that one was “on the right side” on matters of religious belief.

zionmade1:
. And next time dont mention my church.

Which one is "your" church?

*is it blw, where a rogue stole company money and donated same to your church?

*is it blw, where the chief con artist, abandoned his wife, until the wife abandoned him?

*is it blw, where the assemblage of extremely sensational species are?

You're joking boy!

zionmade1:
Sorry bro. Thought u were one of those dat wud want me to carry dem to d building b4 they believe
BLW was evicted from ETF in 2012 and now they have a building at Odums, close to Junac table water along east west road.
Its a massive one for dat matter and i think OP shud visit there so he can cry more. I know wen Christians put their money to work it pains people like Akiintom so much

You didn't get it. When religiously MMMed Christians, come begging for money, because they sowed their salary, they get ridiculed for their foolishness.

terrezo2002:
So whatever you give to God is spent by men.s

*don't you realize that your pastors are the Gods?

That's why they use your money to flex:

*Designer shoes, clothes, luxury cars and jet.

The very things 98% of you can't afford

*they use your money (earned from hard labor and sweat), to build schools, that 98% of you members can't afford.

terrezo2002:
. God will give you back and it is through humans you will be given back.
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You're on this opium that distorts rational thinking.


Deuteronomy 8:18 But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: FOR IT IS HE THAT GIVETH THEE POWER TO GET WEALTH, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

terrezo2002:
Blessings comes to me when I give. It may not be immediate, but it surely comes

Don't you see that you're not different, from those who don't give offering and tithe?

Every human being earn something. Gifts are earning from friendship or goodly acts.

Therefore, your giving to church, is religious MMM via brainwash.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Your first question is quite simple; when you yield yourself to the originator of this idea that transcends human sensors, as you put it, He will reveal all to you and make it abundantly clear to you.

To the second question, the answer is in my answer to your first question. If you had an understanding of life the way we do through the leading of the spirit of God, only then will you understand that this physical life and world are only but temporal and that the life after death is eternal...

But before you can fully grasp all these, you have to yield yourself to the master.

The only master, originator and spirit of God, is the BIBLE period!

Outside the NORMAL sensors of human, no knowledge is perceptible or observable.

If you have never had any contact with any idea about God, you certainly wouldn't be talking about a thing called God now.

bennyann:
Were you banned? This is the Akin I know right?

But akintom, isn't it high time you calmed down? When you're not Catfish.Billy that faced Space.tacular.

Calm down now. For how many days now? It's OK jor.

Its better we wait for the doctors to create another thread, then no one can misbehave again

Calm down OK. Na beg I dey beg oo

Yeah, akintom was banned, because one of the cowards here, got mad, and reported me, because he really became an aggravated idiot.

I got no issues with anyone, as long as they don't cross me with attitude.

Bless you sister!

I'm recommending you to a goodly brother. Pls PM me

[quote author=terrezo2002 post=56759162][/quote]Did men give to you, in the fashion that you all contribute to give to your pastors?

lepasharon:
Lol, why do Christians get divorced the same rate as Atheist? despite marrying b4 gad?!

The Holy Spirit got angry, because they practiced non missionary style during digging.

The spirit of separation then possess them!

FSM just told me now! Thank you pasta!

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Let me state it categorically, without mincing words; The Christian life, the Bible and God transcends every kind of human logic or wisdom.
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If there "exist" an idea, that transcends human sensors, how did the idea, find its way into human experience in the first place.?

LaClicKLaBenDin:
You either believe in God or you don't, no one is forcing anyone, but when you close your eyes in death, that's when reality will set in.

Reality? Have you died before and return here?

The Christians are coolest for the following reasons:

*Christians victimize innocent children by accusing them of witchcraft and thereafter, treat them with most savagery.

*the Christians avoid the lonely aged women, and take wicked pride in dehumanizing them, because imaginary spirits told them that such women, are demon possessed.

*on NL here, most Christians are liars, intellectually dishonest, impersonators, fraud and mischievous.

OP,

You're very in order!

Atheism is the most irritating position amongst the christards, who have found Christianity, as a convenient superstition, to replace the superstitions of its host culture.

The gods of your people, are just LTAO!

frank317:
I am in the street mum, pls come pick me, hopefully u will give me a good f**k tonight, that way, trust me I will not commit suicide.


Meanwhile, see u in hell.

Just imagine, that these characters here, who claimed to be Christians, are the characters that lead church services.

*a she, who is comfortable being wife to fraudster?

*folks so childish and criminally minded, as to foolishly cheer on, a quack traumatologist ?

*christards, whose minds are pungently filthy and given to gutter vomit?
yet claimed they got holy filth in them?

No wonder, that most churches are den of harlots, pimps, thieves, rogues, pedophiles and oppressors of the weak minded.

Bunch of perverts!

enshy:
Young man, its not your business how anyone spends his money.
Pls invest in more rewarding ventures...No one has noticed you yet.
And pls 'its noble cause not noble course'
Biko, let that be a cause for concern too Oga noble course!

Because you bunch are sickly hypocritical, therefore, the need for folks to be prudent is never your concern.

Because you're also given to illusion of bigmanism syndrome, empowering impact, in your primitive mind, is determined on status scale, as against variety scale.

It's a pity boy.

enshy:
Is this any business of yours?
Biko get a rest!
Everyone would spend money on what he places value...Some on women, other alcohol, more go clubbing...
Pls brother, spend your time thinking about creating more impactful threads.

Religious MMM is fraudulent, and warning folks against it, is a noble course.

It's better to spend your money on pleasure, than giving it to MMM pastor, who in turn uses the money, to derive pleasure like otobo gave sulieman.

zionmade:
So u can come and start blabbing how i cud have done it without God. Sorry to disappoint u
I have no business telling u.
U can believe wat u want to believe.
But somewhere in ur heart u have dat hole dat nothing will fill up. Dat empty part is for God and no matter how u try to believe a lie, d hole will still be there.

There are surgeon that can effectively take care of "hole in my heart", in case i have one.

Your imaginary god, wouldn't be a factor to consider.

Wilgrea7:
this question always turns out fruitless.. so no need.. you don't expect me to point up to the sky.. we'll just go back to the cycle of looking for evidence we can't seek yet

Based on this road closed point, for you proponents of existence of God, wouldn't it be intellectually honest, to admit that there can't be any further enquiries about God, until it's disproved that God isn't an idea.

plaetton:
The problem, I always say, is that the so-called Nigerian Christians hardly ever understand what Christianity is , how it began and how it had evolved over the ages.
Nigerians see and use Christianity as just another convenient superstition to replace the superstitions of their forefathers.

You couldn't have said it better.

Wilgrea7:
my reference to the circle wasn't whether it popped out of existence..

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Circle_-_black_simple.svg/500px-Circle_-_black_simple.svg.png

this is the point I'm trying to make.. can you point the beginning or the end of the circle?

The man who drew this circle, knew the beginning and end, when he was drawing it.

If you choose to go this way, i can as well ask you, where is your God? At least i can see this circle.

Wilgrea7:
i believe so

On what premises did this "believe", emerge from?

Wilgrea7:
.. I'm trying to say that scientifically, there is no method or equipment AT THIS POINT IN TIME we can use to verify or measure eternity..

Assuming but not conceding that God exist, are you claiming you KNOW it's eternal, or you simply ASSUME so?

Wilgrea7:
still doesn't go.. i wasn't talking of a circle drawn by man.. i made reference to the shape to make an illustration.. the shape is the reference.. not the person drawing it or the means through which it was drawn..

Yes, did the shape of circle appeared magically? NO, man drew it. Therefore, it's an invalid conclusion to say that circle doesn't have beginning and end.

So also, it an invalid conclusion to say God is eternal. Because God idea didn't appear magically in human experience, men claimed it exist.

Unfortunately, no single man has been able to prove that untestable claims of something called God.

Respect55:
The idea of God's existence cannot be said to be an 'assumed idea' because arrangement of events and effects must be an act of a Cause.

And what is the cause?

Wilgrea7:
i said it was beyond our capacity.. i never said we won't get there.. although we might be extinct before then.. my point was that we have no scientific instrument or equipment to measure eternity at this point in time and the substantial evidence you seek can only come from the scientific evidence which we don't YET have the ability to acquire

You didn't get the question.

God existence and its origin of existence, are beyond your comprehension.

How then did you come about God, since it's beyond human comprehension?

Wilgrea7:
this isn't a rebuttal.. i talked of a circle.. i never specified whether it was drawn by man or a computer etc..
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It's bro. It's man that relates with God idea, not robots.

Wilgrea7:
going to desist from theist atheist arguments.. the point of the OP is not asking for God's existence.. its of the question “who created God"? .. meaning the op is of the view or assumption that God exists(according to the genesis story) but is trying to ascertain if he has a creator

I'm still on the OP's enquiry. For a grand answer to his enquiry, the question must be understood first.

If the OP understand that the idea of God, is an assumed idea ab initio, he will have a better method of enquiry.