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lol, constantin, take it easy. When it comes to tidiness, you are right, even VI and Ikoyi have become bad, and some roads there are just like the roads in Mushin, but when I say that some of the pics remind me of VI and Ikoyi, I was referring mostly to the architecture. For someone who lives in the US (in the NE precisely), when I see that type of tropical architecture, the first thing I remember is Nigeria, because I rarely see those where I live. Notice that I said it reminded me of parts of Lagos and didnt say it was! And besides, I think parts of Abuja could compete decently (have u been?).

Having said that, you do need to visit some parts of the Island, seriously. When I was there last year, some of the structures I saw springing up gave me the wows! Funny thing with Lag is, while some areas are continuing to deteorate, others are springing up, and I am not just talking individual housing, I am talking European/ American style apartment complexes and neighborhods.

The main problem I still have with the Islands are some of the roads, and some of the sewers.

You heard of the New Mall at VI? You should be able to see pics of it on the website I sent u.

Anyhow here are some of my pics, they are not the best because like I said most of the visuals I have are in video form, and besides, I took many of these in the car while in motion, so the shots don't always capture much:

Constantin, most of the visuals I have of Naija are in video format, but I'mma gonna look up my pc to see if I have pics on here to post. You can also go the the website: wheretogoinlagos.com to get an idea of what some parts of the Islands in Lagos look like.

LOL, I was actually going to say the pics remind me of parts of VI, and Ikoyi in Lagos. Some of the pics could also very well pass for some areas in Abuja as well. Constantin, I wonder, ever been to Nigeria, Africa?

Todd Terry, now that we know that u know VI very well, I guess it shows that those who called u a fraud really knew what they were talking about  

Just breezing through right now, so although I have read some of the posts I havent read all of them. This is an excellent thread. I will come back later and see if I can add my two cents. Please lets keep this discussion alive 

my2cents,

It still isnt a fair playing field. Never wil be. Not until we catch up technologically and economically in naija. Anywho, since you like "playing" with numbers, maybe you should become the next finance minister  

my2cents,

non-nins can clearly afford to sit in front of their computers and participate in a forum like this at our own convenience. NINs on the other had have a lot of hinderances from paying some N100 to spend only one hour online to do like one million things, to no NEPA, to slow internet speed, to spending their time doing better things like looking for the next meal, to actually spending time watching TV or listening to the radio or reading the papers for first hand info on the issue. Also, going with the time difference between naija and the US, for example, most NINs are about getting ready for bed now. I dont think its a fair playing field, and it certainly doesnt give you a true picture about who cares more about the situation.

Eurphoria,

Was the post to me or Odeku?

In anycase, the only thing Fela could have done is continue to comment on the dirty politics in Nigeria and the world. However, his songs have often inspired mass protests especially amongst the youth. So one man's agitation can spur entire movements.

@ Odeku

One thing I know people in the cabinet donut like about her is that she cries too much

nawa o, and where from dis kin' info?

Please lets stick to the now and the future and lay less emphasis on the past. atrocities have been committed we all know but there is still a large silver lining in the clouds for us. Compare Nigeria now to what it was during the junta eras, and u will c we have moved significantly.

@ Buchio,

I totally feel your line of reasoning, and you are almost giving me a reason to revive my faith in Naija, but the truth is, if we don't pay attention to the past and learn from it, it is bound to replay itself in the future. How long shall we continue to commit the same errors we have been committing for centuries over and over again? Is it a curse?

@ Odeku

Please have you seen the kind of power this people command in Nigeria, position comes with power in Nigeria, and that is why people find it hard to resign. I wish Fela is still here with us, everything we seeing in Nigeria now, fela warn us about it years back. and remember it was during OBJ regime Fela mother was killed as well the unknown soldiers

I feel you on baba 70. Remember in Beast of No Nation Fela said, "egbekegbe na bad society" I guess Iweala didnt want to keep egbekegbe!

Months ago, she was removed as finance minister, but remained as head of economic team, so she stayed.

Recently she was removed as head of that economic team, so she resigned. That's what happened.

Question is, why? Why all this sudden reshuffling near the end of OBJs second term?

As I have been telling folks, I personally will make my next move after the 2007 elections.  Too many things are happening too quickly of late.  For all I know, it could be well.  But y tempt fate?

I was actually thinking about after 2007 too, although I miss not going back this year.

Ok, ya'll know how I'm feeling about this whole thing but permit me to play devil's advocate for a minute. Do you think that maybe due to her outstanding achievemnets her ego got in the way, i.e., her head became to big, and OBJ decided to cut her to size

NB: Please dont jump on me, remember, I'm not saying its what I think, just playing devils advocate

My take on it, and i could b totally wrong, is that she resigned based on principle - she was brought in to salvage naija's financial situation then she found herself moved to another, unrelated ministry.

There definitely must have been a clash of interests somewhere.

@ my2cents

Sounds like a well thought out plan. Has it worked for u so far? I'm seriously thinking of adopting that one!  

@ My2Cents,

WORD!

You know, when I was leaving for the states, my dad, now over 70years old said, "son, don't hurry back home. I know you are passionate about your country etc. etc. but open your eyes well before you leave the states. I wish I had listened to your mum when she said we should remain in the UK in the 60s."

I have thought about it long and hard and considered that the best solution would be to keep one foot in yankee and the other in naija, but now I don't even know anymore. What if the foot I keep in Naija gets so crushed that I end up a cripple

When I say I will give up altogether, you are hearing the mourning lament of a deeply patriotic Nigerian. The fact that I decided a long time ago to stick out my neck for Nigeria through thick or thin makes my frustration even worse. But I think about my father, for example, who when he was my age left his lucrative position in the UK to serve our fatherland. I look at him today and wonder whether it was worth it. Perhaps not. There were many like him back then who sacrificed everything for Nigeria, but its the same depressing story all around. You know what is worse, the same thing, even worse, is happening over 40 years later, a la Okonjo Iweala's case! Nigeria has a way of frustrating even the most resilient patriots. What the f*%k is the wrong with us?

Anyway I just hope what you are saying is true and that when we hear both sides of the story (as if that will ever happen) the situation will turn out to not be as depressing as it looks right now.

This is very depressing. In recent years I have firmly believed in a better future for Nigeria, Lord knows how I love that country. With the way things are going however, I think I may be on my last lap. The last straw for me will be next year's elections. If we arent able to pull through that succesfully or if any of the ex-military guys gets back into power, then I may very well give up altogether.

It's kind a late. I have already done that. I've never read any of her posts so that was the main reason I invited her to know exactly how she sounds.

LOL. Well in that case I see your point. Way to go then edygirl. And she thought you were doing her a favor. Its like clapping for a madman dancing in the street and the madman going: "oh my goodness, they love me, I must really know how to dance!"

To encourage Drusilla to continue in her delusion is a disservice to humanity, and the black race in particular

@ Nferyn

What strikes me most is that her preceptive and interpretative framework is:
1. As American is it can possibly be
2. More European than most Europeans are nowadays. The strong platonian dualism has long been discredited in Europe, only in The US does it still seem to be 'en vogue'. It introduces a naive idealism that completely disregards reality. It's the makable society at it's worst, sometimes can do just can't.

To her credit, I must say that she is willing to read up on what I post and that she has brought me some interesting, informative and thought provoking things to read. As long as you know where she's coming from (and of course, that's only her online persona), you can put things in the proper context.

I think you have analyzed it quite well. But to be honest with you, her posts arent even amusing to me at all. Nutter has surmarized it well saying Drusilla has nothing to contribute to intelligent discourse. Now if you didnt know other African Americans you would think she was representative of black people in general, but I happen to work in an academic environment and interact with several African American colleagues and know that she is quite on the fringe. Perhaps my lack of patience for her gibberish is because I already know the agenda behind her discourse.

Edygirl, biko no add san' san' for this sweet gari by inviting the Dru!  

Ah, Nferyn I should have guessed it was you
Just saw your little bio. I've been off here for a while. Why the name change?

Drusilla is a good post. Although its easy to tell she is a foreigner. But at times, she is eager to learn. That sufficent enough in my book.

Drusilla isnt eager to learn nada, she is eager to school "naive" Nigerians in the intricacies of a warped narcisistic version of Afrocentricism.

She's not entirely consistent to say the least, but at least she's interesting to discuss with (although quite oblivious to African historical accomplishments at times)

Actually I dont find her interesting in the least, only irritating.