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EMMAACHILE:
Too cold for doc. Temp should hover around 33-35c. At 5 days, it will ok for 32c

Thank you very much, I will try and maintain that range. Please how can I get reed of mosquitos with out harming the chicks, I noticed a lot of them this morning?

My just stocked (this evening)100 Zartech DOCs.

AVERAGE MASS: 40g/chick
FEED: Chikun Super Starter.
MEDICATIONS: Amintotal multivitamin, EST Mix Wsp Antibiotic.

Gave them Amintotal on arrival, planing to administer Amintotal and Est Mix for some days to come.
Coop temprature is arround 30-32°C, not using brooder currently, myb later on depending on the late night temprature.

Please your comments and advices.

Thanks much for your contributions, it is with them I was able to start this.

IM A NEWBIE.

faridpac2:
the original antiviral is to immunize your bird and make sure you buy vaccine from reputable source to avoid vaccine failure

Please where do you buy your Lasota and Gumboro from in kano, and how much per 100 doses? Thanks.

Waiting petiently �

EMMAACHILE:
None. Most have from 7 days minimum

Ohk, can I have a good one for the said period please?

Please can someone recommend a good antibiotic with short withdrawal period for me. Thanks.

EMMAACHILE:
Can you dry it in the room? If you can, use the following to 25 kg bag of feed

1kg dry moringa leaf powder
250g of dry powdered pepper

Feed continuously but you will have to add multivitamin to water or feed to supplement.

This two will act as a broad spectrum immune booster, antibiotic, Dewormer and anticocci.
Moringa is known to destroy completely stubborn bacteria like ecoli and Staphylococcus which is common with intensive poultry production.

Thanks much sir, I really appreciate!

EMMAACHILE:
No

Moringa is the most readily available item to me, please advice me on how to use it, I dont want to use synthetic anti biotics. Thank you.

EMMAACHILE:
My personal poultry vaccine and drug schedule
It will be useful for newbies and you wont go wrong

Drugs required
1. Est mix wsp
2. ‎powervit (multivitamins)
3. ‎lasota vaccine
4. ‎gumboro vaccine
5. ‎onions/garlic/pawpaw leaves (raw)
6. ‎poxcure or use raw palm oil


Day 1: multivitamins

Day 2 -6: antibiotics + multivitamin

Day 7-8: deworm using onions or garlic or pawpaw leaves (1 small bulb in 1 drinker)

Day 14: lasota + milk

Day 15 -19: antibiotics + multivitamin

Day 21: gumboro + milk

Day 24-25: deworm organically

Day 30 -34: antibiotics + multivitamin

Day 35: poxcure or use raw palm oil in water (2 spoon in drinker)

Day 38-39: deworm organically

Day 44 -48: antibiotics + multivitamin

Day 52-53: deworm organically

Day 58 -62: antibiotics + multivitamin

In between the free days, give multivitamin. A day before vaccines, give clean water.

Please can I use moringa extract in place of the above anti biotic? Thank you.

Dear Gurus in the house,

Please help me out with an estimate for raising 50 broilers for up to 8 weeks with cost of DOC @ 240, bag of super starter @ 3450, starter @ 3500 and finisher @ 3800.

Cost of feeding equipment heating and housing can be excluded.

Thank you for your usual cooperation.

noeloge82:
It's not same
For anti cocci we have many drugs like Emberzyn forte, center dicox, prococc ,maxicocc and many others depending on what is available to ur location

Thanks much. At which age(days) should i administer the anti cocci?

Turks:
Just make sure there are no exit and entry points. That’s all there is

Ohk i will do just that, thank you!

Turks:
*Keep Visitors to a Minimum
*Limit Visitations to Other Poultry Farms
*Keep All Animals Out of Poultry Houses
*Practice Sound Rodent and Pest Control Programs
*Avoid Contact with Non-Commercial Poultry or Wild Birds
*Inspect Flocks Daily
*Maximize the Environment
*Keep Areas Around Houses and Feed Bins Clean

It is important for poultry growers to be aware of signs of disease in their flocks. Early detection of contagious diseases can greatly reduce the impact and spread of that disease to other flocks. Clinical signs associated with the possibility of a disease in a poultry flock are:

*Lack of energy and appetite
*Decreased egg production
*Soft-shelled eggs or misshapen eggs
*Swelling of the head, eyes, comb, wattles and hocks
*Purple discoloration of the wattles, combs and legs
*Nasal discharge
*Coughing, wheezing and sneezing
*Lack of coordination in mobility
*Diarrhea
*Sudden or excessive mortality without clinical signs

Thank you very much, i was planning to spray insecticide then disinfectant. But i will add an anti rodent, any recomendation?

noeloge82:
The truth is that all antibiotics have withdrawal period but try and key in the withdrawal period to ur target sales date to be on the safer side and for anticocc it's very important cocci is very deadly in birds

Pardon my ignorance, i tut the said anti biotic is strong enough to prevent cocci. In that case please recomend an anticocci for me and the days of administration. Thank you.

Turks:
ALL antibiotics have their withdrawal periods which shouldn’t be taken with levity hence drug resistance.you should take your biosecurity seriously if you don’t want to use a lot of antibiotics.

Can you highlyt some measures to strenghten Biosecurity please?

noeloge82:
Yes u mix them in one drinker

Thanks sir. I got this schedule from EMMAACHILE which i plan to use:
Drugs required
1. Est mix wsp
2. ‎powervit (multivitamins)
3. ‎lasota vaccine
4. ‎gumboro vaccine
5. ‎onions/garlic/pawpaw leaves (raw)
6. ‎poxcure or use raw palm oil


Day 1: multivitamins

Day 2 -6: antibiotics + multivitamin

Day 7-8: deworm using onions or garlic or pawpaw leaves (1 small bulb in 1 drinker)

Day 14: lasota + milk

Day 15 -19: antibiotics + multivitamin

Day 21: gumboro + milk

Day 24-25: deworm organically

Day 30 -34: antibiotics + multivitamin

Day 35: poxcure or use raw palm oil in water (2 spoon in drinker)

Day 38-39: deworm organically

Day 44 -48: antibiotics + multivitamin

Day 52-53: deworm organically

Day 58 -62: antibiotics + multivitamin

In between the free days, give multivitamin. A day before vaccines, give clean water.

But the issue is with the antibiotic prescribed above, I plan to sell at anytime due to the nature of my market here, but the antibiotic has withdrawal period. I dont equally want to use any anto cocci. Please my people help me out with any good subtitute for the anti biotic (with out withdrawal period) or advice other wise.

Cc @Turks @EMMAACHILE

noeloge82:
K
U can follow this
Day 1: glucose
Day 2 -5: antibiotics + multivitamin
Day 6: anti cocci
Day 7: lasota + milk
Day 8 -9: anti cocci
Day 10: gumboro + milk
Day 11 - 15: antbiotics + anticocci + multivitamin
Day 16: clean water
Day 17: second gumboro + milk
Day 20 - 23: antibiotics + anticocci + multivaite
Day 28: lasota
Day 36: fowl pox
Day 38: deworm

If there is any change in birds behaviour adequate treatment should be taken irrespective of the day of treatment

On days im to give morethan one medicine, do i mix them in one drinker or serve each medicine in a separate drinker?

faridpac2:
Yes chikun is good and it's addition advantage is its cheaper than vital and topfeed

So even the finisher is cheaper than that of vital/top feed?

faridpac2:
you can get it in almost all feed agrovet shop in kano because now chikun is the most popular feed

Nice, how good is it compared to vital?

faridpac2:
this chikun feed is vary nice feed I'm currently using it broiler super starter crumble and it cost only 3500 naira here in kano

Where in kano can I get it please?

EMMAACHILE:
Day 46
Feed update
Rico Gado super starter
Chikun starter
Koudjis conc.

My observation about Koudjis according to manufacturers specification is that its superior to all Nigerian feeds and maybe one of the reason for the fast growth of my current batch.
Crude protein as high as 23.5% starter (0-17 days), 21.5% grower (17-35 days) and 20.5% finisher (Over 35 days)

I also employed the use of ice blocks in water on hot days and the use of herbs made the chicks almost wormless and pathogen free

Please I need explanation on this koudjis conc.

Is it a feed or an additive that is used to make home made feed?

How is it used?

Thanks guys, I appreciate cc Turks and Emma

EMMAACHILE:
Depends on age
But from the fourth week, can tolerate temperature from 17-34 degrees Celsius

Thanks. What about the brooding stage please?

Turks:
There’s a chart for every breed. [color=#006600][/color]

Im in need of it please, thank you!

Please guys what is the temprature range that Cobb 500 can withstand?

Turks:
I don’t advice clients to use tray feeders. We advice them to use this.

How long does it need refill, how many hours interval are we looking at?

EMMAACHILE:
Just use a sachet of milk before mixing vaccine in it.

Thank you

Turks:
*After 2 days
*Round Feeders depends on the size. tray feeders should be replaced after 2-3weeks.

Thank you very much!

EMMAACHILE:
day 11
I gave the chicks Lasota vaccine
Mixed 100 doses in 2 litres of water with milk and administer in the evening. I will withdraw it after one hour.

I will update pictures of the birds tomorrow.

Which type of milk sir, evaporated or powdered? In which quantity? (Sorry im a newbie )

Turks:
Amen sir. May god see you through this venture. Amen.

* it’s not advisable to use woodshaving from day one. Instead, make a woodshaving bedding as an underlay whilst you spread newspaper over the woodshaving. Reason is this: the birds can’t differentiate between feed and woodshaving, out of curiosity, they might pick on the woodshaving and choke to death on it. Some farmers introduce their day old birds to woodshaving straight away and get away with it but I’d rather you didn’t.

* It’s 30-50 birds to a tray feeder and 20-25 birds to a drinker. This varies. The size of the day old birds play a role in this. Thanks.

Amin. Thanks much for the quick response.

- After how many days is it safe to remove the newspaper overlay?
- what is the ratio of round feeders to birds and when can i replace tray feeders with them please?

Thanks once more.

Good day!

I came accross this thread via google while making reserch on broiler farming, I read this thread up from page one to the end, infact this thread made me join Nairaland. Im so impressed with what you guys especially Emma and turks have been doing, thank you very much, God willing, you will reach greater heights.

Im a newbie, I have some qos I would like you to please answer:

-Can I use wood shaving as bedding for DOC from day one? If not whats the best practice?

-what is the ratio of birds to a single drinker/feeder

Thank you in advance.

I have more qos if you dont mind