European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 9:49pm On Sep 04, 2025 |
patrickmuf: He dey use open eye cover up him senseless defending... 🤣🤣🤣 He might be exposed alot this season |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 9:26pm On Sep 04, 2025 |
AirBere: Rudiger and Tah as CB duo, add Goretzka playing almost as a 10 abi 8.5.
Germany fell off. Rudiger don take style Dey turn otu sha |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 2:34pm On Sep 04, 2025 |
Gucciboy: I now see why Messi advised Garnacho to choose Chelsea. Chelsea is Messi favorite English club He has been following Chelsea for long on Instagram ,aside Barca he follows Newell old boys and Chelsea then |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 9:59am On Sep 04, 2025 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 8:57am On Sep 04, 2025 |
akwesenana: You suppose be Chelsea fan, not Liverpool. WTH did I just read? Chelsea fans sabi gba before But e come be like say na because dem Dey suffer make dem Dey gba ,immediately dem win that CWC I expected more gba takes from them ,but many of them here have been sensible and I am a little bit surprised ,na only the likes of mugudeyhause and blue angel aka enzo go Dey gba forever Now na Liverpool fans don take over the gba industry I need the old chelsea back to enjoy more gba takes and catch cruise
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 7:30pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Silentgroper: I think he was a lil bit last season ..
His performance dwindled last season ..
.and when talking about consistency, it has to be across all competitions..
That what guy meant I think He joined a new club ,he still came out top last season and won the European golden boot |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 7:27pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
MorataFC: Football isn’t an exam where you must wait five years for validation before grading a player’s quality. The game is judged in the present, and players are assessed by what they deliver on the pitch week in, week out. That’s why the Ballon d’Or is awarded every year. If Barcelona had won the UCL, Yamal would have been in the top 5 for the Ballon dor. Would you then say he should wait another four seasons before being considered a candidate?
Yamal’s 2024/25 season wasn’t about potential,it was about output, 17 Man of the Match awards across competitions, decisive performances in big games, and carrying Barcelona when it mattered most. That’s not hype and it's not fluke, that’s world class performance.
And look at Palmer, his brilliance in the Conference League final saved his team from defeat, and he repeated the same in the Club World Cup final. Those are world-class performances. Yes, there’s a difference between delivering a world-class performance and being a world-class player, but you cannot consistently produce world-class displays for your team without being considered world-class player.
Saying “wait five years before calling them world-class” completely misses the point. World-class status is not about future projections,it’s about current dominance. The Ballon d’Or is not awarded for what you might do in the future, but for what you are doing right now. Players rise and fall, today’s hero may fade tomorrow. That doesn’t erase the fact that they were once world-class. Haaland won nothing last season, that doesn't erase him as a wolrd class striker, there’s no one that can be champion for life, the judgment must always be based on current performance.
If you’re playing for a giant club like Barcelona, deciding big matches, and racking up awards in crucial games, then by every standard of the footballing world, you are already a world-class player. Yamal came 8th at the ballon d or last season He is likely to come 2nd or 3rd on this one |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 7:24pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
DeeScan: mbappe has shown in consistency of lately How do you mean of lately ? Mbappe have been consistent for 5 seasons now |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 7:23pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Roland17: Irrespective of the metric used, we can all agree Mbappe is world class, right? E get anybody wey wan argue mbappe ? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 7:22pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
DeeScan: Wait , did I just read someone saying DIAZ is not world class , as in the same Luiz Diaz ..
Name a winger currently better than Luis Diaz ...
Diaz is one of the notable mentions that guide Liverpool to the trophy last season .. In fairness, one would even say he had more impact than Salah as he always has his work rate .. someone that was deployed out of position and still thrive there .. how many of your world class player can play out of position and still thrive there ..
Szobozslai is world class .. who is gonna argue that .. it's not about consistency, it aabout performaning however and whereever you meet yourself and have an impact ..
Diaz is world class anyday anytime .. .Even your mbappe is not consistent Lmao |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 7:21pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Ihebu4chelsea: There are few world class players available at the moment. Agreed |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 5:13pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Gucciboy: Ansu fati was the first player that merited the prestigious No10 shirt immediately after Lionel Messi from Barcelona.
He was praised and hyped by Messi himself as next big thing yet ansu fati has been forgotten already because he couldn't shine after injury.
That's why 1 season can't make yamal world class,only consistency. You can say yamal isn’t world class ,but he has been consistent for 2 seasons though |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 5:11pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
AirBere: You do realise that nobody ever said this right?
Fati was a center forward in the academy and made his name as a left winger. He was nothing like Messi, didn't have enough pace, was a weak dribbler. His style of play is like that of Gakpo, Rodrigo who are goal scoring wingers. He was nothing like Messi in terms of career trajectory. Yamal actually has something in common with Messi though.
yes he had the potential to be world-class but nobody said the emboldened. Without injuries may be he could have become something very big. Who knows?? Fati was so good then but it was when he fell of that he played his most minutes for Barca He was so good that he couldn’t even make the Spanish team then |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 5:09pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Realtord43: Where you around during Ansu fati era?
That should answer your question why you shouldn't be in a rush to Rate a player with less than 5 seasons to his name.
Ansu fati was so good then, some were saying he will surpass Messi Career, his potentials was so high then just like Yamal.
Let not rush Yamal yet because I believe there is more to come from him and he hasn't peak fully yet. Ansu fati was so good then that he can’t even make the Spanish national team ? Ansu fati was so good then that he was mostly a super sub ? He was good though but you people are sounding like he was ever the main man at Barca |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 5:07pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Gucciboy: This is emotional conclusion because if ansu fati should happen on yamal you wouldn't be saying this any longer.
He's still a good kid not world class You can say yamal isn’t world class yet which is fine But this ansu fati matter na him Dey tire me ,he was never a full time starter for Barca ,when he wanted to be a full time starter he had that injury ,so I don’t get the reference you people make with him Do you know ansu fati started more games for Barca when he fell of then when he was very good ? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 5:05pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 5:01pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
AbokiWam: One of my definitions of worldclass
But the thing is football quality has dropped these days
So....
Diaz can start in madrid or Barca But still him no be WC Diaz isn’t a better player than Vinicius so he wont start He will only start at Barca if raph is willing to play as a 10 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 2:26pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Realtord43: Well maybe we should also call Estevao world class because he is 18yrs with almost same numbers of Yamal stats then? You have a point with yamal ,but please stop putting brazil league stats and Laliga/ Europe top league as the same |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 1:11pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Okay We have heard you
Thankfully, you're not the custodian of handing out membership to World Class players.[/color] Lol |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 1:01pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
izzou: [color=royalblue] Lewandowski spent 4 seasons at Dortmund, and he was already a World class player to you.
But you have other players coming from smaller teams that are less than Dortmund, and they don't look World class to you.
Make Lewandowski, Salah and Kane no retire oh. That's the last stage of World class players we may ever have.[/color] So Liverpool wey diaz spend 3 seasons na small team ? I said diaz isn’t a world class player as I speak ,weda he can achieve that at Bayern or not I don’t know But as I speak diaz isn’t a world class player and has never been |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 12:48pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Realtord43: People will just use World class on players because the have a good few seasons.
exceptional skill, unparalleled consistency over time, the ability to perform at their peak in high-pressure situations, and a profound impact on their team's success.
See the bolded, that is what define a world class players for me, you must peak for at least 5yrs in performance, stats wise, your numbers should not diminished, set a record, break a record or match your record.
Consistently is key to reach that World class status. Just two good yrs cannot give a player a World class status, people saying Isak, Wirtz and Caicedo are world class is quite bizarre, just two good season is not enough to get a world class shout. Well said man |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 12:39pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
MorataFC: "Striker" only? 😂 😂 😂 Defenders midfielders I go bring nah I just mention forwards wey nobody fit oppose |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 12:38pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Good.
So Lewandowski is the oldest on your list here. He got to a top tier European club in 2010. That's when he started for Dortmund
In the former list you posted, Diaz is the oldest, and got to an European stage in 2019.
So, before you even knew Diaz, Lewandowski has spent 8 seasons in Europe.
Do you see that your definition of World class is seriously unfair and biased to the people on that list?[/color] No Matter how we put it luiz diaz isn’t a world Class player ,before age 28 lewa Kane have been world class ,lewandowski have been world class since his Dortmund days |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 12:13pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
izzou: [color=royalblue] Remove Messi and Ronaldo.
List players that have had World class seasons, so we can understand what a World class player should look like.[/color] Lewandowski Kane Mbappe Salah Haaland |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 12:11pm On Sep 03, 2025 |
Gucciboy: A world class attacking player is a player that can register 40 goals plus assists across all competitions like mbappe,Salah and Harry Kane normally do consistently.
These metric is for attackers So NONE ARE WORLD CLASS You mention this one’s and you can’t mention lewandowski Abi ,even at old age he did 45 last season |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 11:27am On Sep 03, 2025 |
Silentgroper: Diaz no be world class ..
Haaa!!!
Egbami!!!
Is yamal world class?? Oga luiz diaz isn’t world class please I won’t say anything about yamal ,anything people on this thread decide on yamal I will accept ,afterall he is still 18 and growing As for Luis diaz he isn’t world class and he has never even had a world class season all his career |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 6:14am On Sep 03, 2025 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 8:41pm On Sep 02, 2025 |
Godx: They are many potential world class talents in that list and that's why clubs have paid those big bulks. Yes many of them got the potentials to be But currently ? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 7:10pm On Sep 02, 2025 |
Amigoss: Thanks for the Coutinho money,Na you change my life so  Lmao |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 6:41pm On Sep 02, 2025 |
Gbarnacho said Messi adviced him to join Chelsea |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 6:39pm On Sep 02, 2025 |
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