achorladey:


cannot accept that he is not interested in your lies and manipulations, madness and insanities peddling

I wonder why it pains him so much, I'm glad I made it obvious. Is this how he expected to win me over to JW...? Lol.

We know you come to respond to apostates from the hours of 2 am to 3 am

He literally mentioned me last thing before sleeping and mentioned me first thing after waking up... And later complains that I'm replying my mentions late in the night, lmao!
He truly feels all itchy to reply me, and maybe convert me to the ONLY SET OF PEOPLE WHO DO GOD'S WILL.
I'd rather be a FAITHLESS MISCREANT too.

MaxInDHouse the madness and insanities peddling peddler is not Jesus who is the saviour, Those that that will be saved will not be saved based on lies and manipulations of MaxInDHouse.



Jesus came for the sinners-QUANTITY not the righteous-QUALITY


Your gospel na FRAUD

achorladey:



Even for him to practice what he preaches na so so lies and manipulations you see

I told you already you not buying his lies and manipulations will make his insanities and madness peddling into overdrive as a result of your rejection

Let him get over it... He should relax with a cup of cold water and think of what he has achieved so far here on Nairaland. I think he's achieved the opposite of what they sent him to achieve.

I want you guys to be the judges...
How do you think the new clubs are affecting our favourite players...?

Who do you think is the happiest and most successful now?

MaxInDHouse:

Ọmọ fear dey catch you shey?

You don't want to have sleepless nights over JW matters like your friends!

When I asked you questions you ended up saying other things, twisting explanations and leaving other parts unanswered...
But yet you are always itchy yo reply me whenever I quote someone else.

In case you think I didn't, I heard you loud and clear and I have to intention of mentioning you again. I'm pleading with you to do the same. There are other vulnerable people you can brute force, not me.

By the way don't sound silly, me not saying it doesn't mean I don't know enough about your bizarre organization...
You don't qualify to give me sleepless night bro, I'm beyond that.
The worst that can happen is a buildup of anger — the kind of anger that comes when you see overly hypocritic, stoopid and gullible people.

And yes, I don't need that anger. Anger kills. Now kindly get out of my mentions.

Courz:


Oh Yes. I have lots to say about JW. I am just summarising. The kind of research I did about them is the one forbidden by Watchtower. What we know about the Cult could even be the tip of the iceberg. There is more that will be revealed just as Child Sex Trafficking was revealed.

And Yes, JW is just one of those Cults that were formed by Freemasons in the 1800s. If you do your research, you will find some Cults that operate the exact way JW operates. And their founders were all Freemasons. It is as if all the Freemasons gathered in their lodges in the 1800s and planned or were given assignments to form their own Cults. All these Cults I am talking about are all American Cults. JW is just one of them. You need to read about the History of Cults in America.

With much knowledge comes much grief... Let me manage the little I know first, I don't want to get a heart attack while digging deep into another man's mess.

Emusan:


Here is the real point.

They claim today they have the truth.

Then ask them, which truth do you have today that is not known by anyone since the beginning of Christianity? Silent mode!

Scholars and archeologists have put the destruction of Jerusalem to 586/587BC, why is Watchtower still saying Jerusalem was destroyed in 607BC to arrive at 1914? Silent mode!

They'll later claim that Jesus came down and said it to their founders, meanwhile it was just a random calculation from the book of Revelations

You don't need to stress yourself on that, he is fed up with the organisation but just using Nairaland as a saving face. That's why he is so restless and sleepless on this forum.

You are point.

achorladey:


One of the GODS was removed and two new ones selected by the remain 7 GODS to increase the number to 9.

The other one removed is now a on the street like every other publisher no longer called a faithful and discreet slave or governing body member

Wow thanks for the update.

That is what he knows how to do best here on nairaland. They hunt for those who are not familiar with their mode of operations to manipulate and peddle their lies.

In the end, we will know the Truth.

achorladey:



Na years of indoctrination and tactics used by his religious leaders he is applying here. The tactics is to repeat the lie continously until the person they are in conversation with accept it as truth.

When they see and know the person is familiar with their lies, they start insults, abuse and attack the person in order to divert the lies and manipulations.

Should they have the power, people like you and I will never have access to this platform for life.

They detest anyone who goes against their authority and power just like their 9 GODS of men in USA


The antidote I have used while in conversation with them is to be calm. They are most times aggressive and easily agitated. They have given me numerous names here that have come back to haunt them. Now they have all chosen to avoid me. They simply cannot stand me exposing their lies repeatedly backed with evidence they cannot refute.

Na wa oo
I think it's 8 men in USA, not 9.

When you seem to know more about them, he vanishes into thin air, only to appear and start speaking softly to a new person that is still ignorant.

achorladey:



Telling him you are not buying it at all will raise his madness and insanities peddling

Na only to boast about lies and manipulations he sabi. Even those who he calls atheists on this platform reckon him with lies and lack of self respect

Seriously the way this fellow boasts, I don't even care again to listen much, I never want to stand beside him as a fellow JW and listen to him boast to others about us (JWs), I never want to do that myself.

The fact that he sneaks in that line in every response makes me wish I could see this human being in person and directly hear how foolish it sounds to say the same phrase 200x in a conversation. SMH!

You know, the funny thing is that their whole organization is built on and coordinated by that phrase:

"I'm saying is that's the one and only organization of imperfect humans doing God's will today is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

Anyone who joins will join because of this phrase, anyone who is there won't want to leave because of this phrase...

If I ask, what exactly is that thing you are doing that other Churches don't do, it will be another saga of rubbish talk.
I regret conversing with this guy... I feel so irritated.
Common Bible knowledge gets twisted, he keeps advertising his club low-key, makes claims that don't even relate to the questions that are being asked.

Courz:


If you were brought up as a JW, you would see the religion as the Truth. It would be drummed into your ears, eyes and mind that you are not to research the Cult outside their website and you must not listen to anyone with negative views about the Cult.

I started having doubts about the Cult from my Teens because of the kind of personalities in the Cult. They would boast about being the Best, being different, being the only people God is for. But what I would see amongst them would be completely different. It never sat right with me. But because of the indoctrination, I would push those doubts aside. You are trained as a JW to do this. This is what we call Mind Control Programming. It exists in all Cults.

The next doubt is their stand against University Education and the fact that they remove Elders who have children in the University. My Father was removed from his post as an Elder because of this. This time, I had to tell myself that Satan is in the Cult and he is using certain Governing body members to enforce this rule. This rule isn't from God.

What broke the Camel's back for me was Child Sexual Abuse in the Cult. I have been hearing about it before but I ignored it. But when they decided to address it in one of their Watchtower magazine, it piqued my interest. I said to myself, So, Child Sexual Abuse happens in Jehovah's organisation? I thought this only happens in the Catholic Church just as Watchtower told us.

I gave myself permission to research JW Child Sexual Abuse and what I saw shocked me. My research started to take me to the Founder of JW and I was led to JW Freemasonry. I saw testimonies from Freemason ExJWs. Infact, I was taken to the underbelly parts of JW, The underground sections of JW. I was taken to the very beginning of JW, Who they are, Who funded them, Who is really running them, Their False prophecies, Their Property investments, Their Billionaire status, Their investments in Big Companies of the world including companies and organisations they have taught JW to stay away from, Their Ties to the U. S Government, Their Unpalatable History, The lifestyle of their Leaders over the years, Their old publications that revealed who they are, Their hidden Occultic activities, The role Child Sexual Abuse plays in their Occultic activities, e.t.c

When I saw all of these, I now realised why they were desperate to force JWs not to research the Cult and not to listen to negative views about them. All my doubts and everything else now made perfect sense.

Man this is deep!
I feel you have more to say...
Nothing screams truth louder than an insider sharing from experience, it's horrific, I got similar ideas during my little research and you've confirmed that it is not a lie.

Jehovah's Witnesses is just another Church denomination, just like many other fake Churches with terrible hidden motives and doctrines.

MaxInDHouse:


I humbly requested a free home Bible study with God's people so if you too want to do the same you're free all i'm saying is that's the one and only organization of imperfect humans doing God's will today is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES so if you have questions let me know!


Obviously you don't understand what you're saying!
Jesus' disciples were a group back in the first century so whatever they're arguing about is their UNDERSTANDING at that time which they will equally pass onto whoever listens to them so as members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization we view those taking the lead in our midst the same way we view them despite their confused state of mind at that time Jesus promised that they are the ones that will sit with him to rule in heaven, ọmọ Jesus never waited until they perfectly grasp what he's teaching them o.
WHY?
Because they are ever ready to make amendments in whatever Jesus say they got wrong!

If all Nigerians are selling whatever we have and sharing the proceeds EQUALLY what are we trying to do?
Is that not a way to eradicate poverty?
Ọmọ take it or leave it!

God promised that His true worshipers will achieve something during the endtime and only Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling it today!

Don't worry... I'm assuming you've learned it all from your Bible Study peeps. Enjoy the knowledge.

I'd rather learn from my Bible and the Holy Spirit directly, not from someone who's an expert in twisting the truth after someone points it out.

And stop selling your organization to me, I'm not buying it at all (no one here on NL does)... Especially with this awful display of pride? Hell naw! I never want to be this prideful.

Courz:


You are right. Remember I used to be one of them. Such a song with that Title exists. I know you are right. I am just shocked that a JW will stoop that low to use their Song Book, Not the Bible to prove a point. It shows that JWs are clueless people and have no basis for their beliefs.

Please let me know, why did you leave?

MaxInDHouse:


Who cares what faithless miscreants say about the truth?
If you want to learn just calm down and reason not following faithless miscreants who has nothing tangible to offer.

I want to learn, I think it is you who thinks you've learned all and every other person now needs to learn from you.

Jesus taught his disciples several times that they must humbly take up lowliness {Matthew 5:5} but they always argue among themselves over who is the greatest! Mark 9:34; Luke 9:46

After arguing, did they teach it to others?
Someone here is talking about your organization teaching contradicting stuff back and forth.

Learning is one stage, teaching is another.

Jesus taught them that it's not possible now to eradicate poverty among them because as long as this system lasts they will always have poor ones amongst them {John 12:8} yet after their baptism of the holy spirit they tried to eradicate poverty by working towards equalizing {Act 4:34-35} only to loose a couple so they have to stop the exercise! Act 5:1-11

I wish you understand what the disciples were doing...
The church accepted the poor and the rich and they were all living as one, trying to let the poor enjoy everything equally as the rich would do, not stigmatizing them, just as was prophesied in the Bible:

"Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality. At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. The goal is equality, as it is written: “The one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little.”

2 Corinthians 8:13‭-‬15 NIV

This was one of the main purposes of offerings since the days of Moses and the disciples were continuing that.

Don't lie to people that they were trying to eradicate poverty.

I can go on and on but let's stop at that!



JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is the one and only group of imperfect humans doing God's will today!

That's what i am saying so if you have questions i'm ready to answer you!

My question is quite simple, is that what God said? That you guys are the only people doing so so and so...?

MightySparrow:


Good points. There is actually something special about them, you mentioned it also. That I have been pointing ou on this platform: special delusion
Thank God I have somebody that can see it.

I think I should have said it this way:
JWs were the ones who always came to our houses to advertise their club and paint themselves as the most righteous with a unique thinking pattern unique and special delusion... And not the other way round.


I'm not even trying my best to say something bad about them. There are a lot of things I've heard about them that makes me respect them, and a lot of things that also makes me disdain them (not out of personal hatred but more like as a result of this picture they painted about themselves before I got a closer look).
Just like it pains me a lot whenever I see an iPhone malfunctioning after all the hype...

Yesterday I observed two instances on during a journey:

On my way going, I saw a man at a very busy spot in town. He was with a portable sound system and was preaching to people in the tight crowded busy vicinity while standing, I heard a few lines while passing and I know that those around (the place is filled with traders) will hear the full sermon, and it will sow a seed in their hearts, for good or for bad...

While returning, I saw two JWs in another less busy and less crowded spot, they were sitting under the shade of a bridge and I book-stand was in front of them, I suppose JW books, on the back there was a huge sticker, 'JW.org'.

Here's what I observed, two religious bodies did a kind of outreach, one was promoting their brand, the other one didn't.
One group waited expectantly for people to visit them, the other charged into the ears and minds of unsuspecting passerbys.
One group was all relaxed, the other was sweating to achieve a goal.
But in the end, the amount of effort displayed is evident in that instance... The only problem being that the group who put less effort in promoting their cause would likely accuse themselves of being more righteous than the man who put in more effort...
The people who were clearly out there advertising a brand will come hitting after this man who just wanted people to hear 'God's Words'...

A group that has a law which prevents them from questioning what the higher authorities say is equivalent to a cult.
If no one should question, but only accept what tye authorities say, then how do they judge what is true and what is not?

Many things to say about these people, but to what end?

MaxInDHouse:


You need to go back and STUDY how the disciples fumbled countless times over and over again until they were able to master Jesus' teachings.

We are talking about a perfect teacher and his imperfect students so if a perfect teacher say anything his imperfect students may stumble many times over their teachers teachings.

That's exactly what happened to the Bible students in the 20th century!

Young man don't make yourself sound more awkward than they paint you.

By the way, where exactly did the disciples fumble over Jesus' teachings?
Cos last I remember, they were trying to explain a topic in a new way entirely and it caused a debate (even though it was right). So which scriptures are you referring to?

MaxInDHouse:
In the first century apostate Jews known as Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis were always following Jesus everywhere he goes because his teachings is really really disturbing their wicked hearts.
But at the same time honest hearted ones in their midst like Nicodemus went looking for Jesus to learn from him.
So when apostates are following JWs up and down today it's because their hearts are troubled as they know fully well that only this organization has what it takes to melt hearts!

I wonder if this statement is meant to explain why people are pointing out 'flaws' in your self-esteemed organization.
Cos last I remember, JWs were the ones who always came to our houses to advertise their club and paint themselves as the most righteous with a unique thinking pattern... And not the other way round.

By the way, people dig up truths about everything they find, from Catholic Churches to Hollywood to Space, JW is no exception and is not even a special case...
The only thing is that that it's kinda irritating to see you (in particular) so bold and prideful in your organization's swarm of delusions, just the same way it is irritating to see a child happily munching a muddy foam and feeling all bossy about it. So again, nothing special.

MightySparrow:



Their community truth. Delusion pro max.

Yh it might be delusions, or might not.
I'm more concerned that a person has to mention the name of his church specifically even when I already generalized it by saying they word Christians

So this should mean that the church is not a Christian church and that's why you are specifying the church name... I don't know.

In case it wasn't obvious, the purpose of this thread is for Christians who are uncertain to reflect and ponder on the replies of different people, draw courage and aim to have the same experience or better.

vdestro:


Jesus returned and then corrected when He clearly Said when He returns He was going to Judge?

By the way according to your madness did He die?

Jws are definitely mad devils!

Please stop this, you can always create a new thread for this.

TenQ:

Assurance of God's Love for me and Assurance of my salvation in Christ!

Blessing thus who curse me.
Praying for those who spitefully use me.
Letting go my right for others to take Freely




The Peace and Assurance of God's Holy Spirit

Another wonderful mention.

The Peace which comes with the assurance that the Holy Spirit of God is in you and with you...
Plus, the gentle happiness and joy that flows whenever we realize that God loves us (despite those voices that say otherwise in our heads)...
Plus the feeling of calm and freedom that comes whenever we look back and reflect on the difference in our lives before and after being saved..

I'm not sure many people understand this combo...
It feels surreal..

I'm glad you mentioned this, reminds me of experiences.

As for the other points you mentioned, I guess we all are/have been there, practice makes perfect...
But even perfection isn't enough.

I think everything boils down to humility, once in a while I pray for God to humble any pride in me.
Other times, you just need to take a step to realize that the journey is easy... It is well.
Thanks for the response.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted!

Jesus returned in the year 1914 and ever since then he has been correcting the errors that the group got from Christendom churches that is why we are totally different from all others {John 17:14-16} and everywhere people talk about us as if we're the worst group on the planet {Matthew 5:11-12} but in the year 1931 God began calling us by another group name that separates us from all the religions claiming Christians {Isaiah 65:15} that's why we are known globally by that's group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Matthew 5:14-16

Okay.

EruditeSupport:

If you're not born again, you're not a Christian. You don't have an experience of the faith.

What gives me joy is the ever abiding Presence of God. The sweet Presence of His Holy Spirit.

One thing that gives me joy each time I remember is my everlasting home. The joy of it is immeasurable.

When the Going is hard, I find solace in the Word of God which never fails:

"Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go, and will bring you back to this land. For I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you." Genesis 28:15.

This is lovely... I like this perspective.

1. What gives you joy about your religion?

What's that stuff in your religion that makes you feel happy and lucky whenever you remember it...?
Maybe a testimony, an experience, anything.

For me, it's the journey I passed through in the whole process where God found me, starting from points where I was totally living in active sin and doubt, to the point where I finally got to have some clear proofs of God.
The happiness that comes from living free from sins I thought I will never overcome.
And also the practicality of the whole idea of following God's instructions and leadings.

2. What gives you the toughest time in your religion?

Yh, there's always a hard pill to swallow. Do you mind sharing?
Might also be your experience Christian-wise, something you find hard to accept, believe or escape, ongoing sacrifices, anything.

I don't know, but at times, whenever God keeps silent at my wrongs or bad decisions, I don't know if a punishment is brewing, especially long term punishments...
Maybe the biggest thing is uncertainty of how this will happen: My persecution for Christ (especially if it will be the torture version)

3. What gives you hope to continue?

Very important, there's always been that uncertainty stage, so what boosts you?
What gives you that drive to continue?
What you you hold on to and draw strength from whenever there's a challenge??

I see a crown I see a group of people living a normal righteous life in a righteous community, I want to be one of them.

Also, please if there's any popular belief you want to debunk in Christianity, here's the go-ahead. Please do so.

The idea that Christianity is all about praying (making incantations) and receiving money and protection... Then it all ends in wearing white garments and singing Hosanna forever and ever in Heaven, while the unjust burn forever and ever in Hell

Bestbrain123:
Christianity is know longer giving me Joy.. judging from what is happening around the world and my country even my enviroment... and i still can't believe why my joying is dieing... another concept is TRINITY that one got me more furious when is mention. i don't know why this things is happening. but some thing keep telling me that christianity is fastly changing from good to worse.. pls teachers of religious law i need some explanation .

I don't know it your reply is sarcastic or not, but here's a tip:
Try to create these three boxes whenever you're listening to anyone explaining Christian stuff...

1. Correct Box.
This means you are 100% sure that what the person is saying is true, and you can find evidence in the Bible.

2. Uncertainty Box.
These are the stuffs that you are not sure that they are correct. But also, you can't find enough proof that it is wrong. So you just go ahead and leave it hanging, with hopes that you will finally understand if it's true or not with time.

3. False Box.
This is the box for stuff that are 100% wrong and you can proof that they are 100% false according to multiple Bible Scriptures.

That's it, apart from that, try a personal Christianity where you read your Bible as well (pray for understanding) and try to practice and build yourself in secret, so that in public, you can have enough understanding to decide whether you should accept whatever is being taught or whether to discard it.


As for trinity, I dunno, its probably difficult to explain it easily.

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Ignore that person. What's the point responding?

MaxInDHouse:

As one of Jehovah's Witnesses my joy multiplies when i see people from different geographical locations on this planet having the same line of thought as i do! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3


My toughest times was when i had to admit that i can't find a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. John 8:44


God promised that towards the end time He will send out His Holy Spirit (Active Force) to gather faithful people throughout the earth under one umbrella so that they will start considering what was written in the Bible as an organization {Isaiah 2:2-3} and they will use God's word to settle all their disparities among themselves peacefully, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing just so today and that really gives me hope that truly the endtime is closer than the time Jesus said 2000 years ago:
"the kingdom of God is at hand" Matthew 4:17

Yh, very valid points, they seem to revolve around Jehovah's Witnesses, and not just mere Christianity.

So I would assume you guys have a different thinking process from the rest, either in a good way or in a bad way. But it's well, we'll all know what's right at the right time.

Emusan:


Joy of salvation ever since I found out that God is real



Faith.

because I'm a pragmatic person but God decided to reveal Himself to me.



because God revealed Himself to me, so I can't deny Him or turn back.

100% on point with your reply...
I understand what you mean when you say the knowledge that God is real brings you happiness, I mean, it's very reassuring.

Even to the point where you literally know that there's no other authentic stuff out there because you've experienced God, and therefore you can't back out...

duro4chang:
The heaven where Jesus is at the right hand side of God and it will be forever.

That's a nice reply, you've chosen the response that removes the complexity I was aiming to achieve

Anyways it's all good man, let's keep learning more and more so we won't be taken by surprise..
(Also, I used to believe in the Heaven forever but even as a kid, the idea couldn't sit well with me)

duro4chang:
I have joy when I remember I am going to make heaven

Yh, it's quite thrilling to imagine that...

Hey let me rouse up your thoughts process a little.

Friendly question:
Have you reasoned out that the Bible makes it clear that there are about 3 Heavens?
So, which one do you think you will be in? And for how long?

Hey folks, it's resting hours so I decided to voice out some of my thoughts.(questions)...
Please I'm inviting every Christian who reads this to leave a reply, it will help.
And pleeaase, no v!olence please, even though I know y'all are marvelous.

I'll just go to the point:

1. What gives you joy about your religion?

What's that stuff in your religion that makes you feel happy and lucky whenever you remember it...?
Maybe a testimony, an experience, anything.

2. What gives you the toughest time in your religion?

Yh, there's always a hard pill to swallow. Do you mind sharing?
Might also be your experience Christian-wise, something you find hard to accept, believe or escape, ongoing sacrifices, anything.

3. What gives you hope to continue?

Very important, there's always been that uncertainty stage, so what boosts you?
What gives you that drive to continue?
What you you hold on to and draw strength from whenever there's a challenge??


Also, please if there's any popular belief you want to debunk in Christianity, here's the go-ahead. Please do so.
(But only with the willingness/capability to argue calmly and to agree if it becomes obvious that you might be wrong)

I'm all ears, Let's go.

Hello guys...

Please help me out on this:

There's this iPad (Air 2), that has been lying around in my house for some months now.
The screen went blank, that is, it doesn't display any light, but is still fully functional, it is 100% usable.

If I flash a bright torch at the screen from certain angles, I can see what is displayed and I can use the phone properly but without that, the screen stays dim.
Any help?

PS: I have followed many step I found online, even did a hard reset, nothing works.
New screen starts from 30-90k or so.


Someone made a video and demonstrated a kind of glitch in some Apple phones where the same thing happens and even a new screen doesn't fix it.
Instead, the person just got rid of a chip in the microphone or headphone jack and all was fixed.. So that's that, any help?

Mod please help me push for relevancy
Seun
Mynd44
Lalasticlala
Nlfpmod

Revolution2022:
Backlights are dead.

Nice suggestion, I thought so...

Please how do you think the fixing procedures will be like? Buying of new parts? What parts will they change? Costs?

(I forgot to mention, I had given it for repairs once and they couldn't do anything, the screen later came on on it's own and died again several months later)