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junnyjake:
Wow, wonderful insights.

For me studying engineering, I've heard people advicing me to opt for India instead, I even had a friend in year 1 then leaving us to India.

Forget India and Malaysia, S/A is even better than them. Go to other countries that your money can afford

Obiwannn:
Start applying for jobs? I dont understand you biko

Look for jobs in Canada online. They MAY sponsor your visa but its HARD

Obiwannn:
I'm not married. Money wouldn't be a problem. I'm in my mid 20's should be 28 when I'm ready for the move. My grades also should be very good. The only problem is work experience. I have only six months experience done in Nigeria (intenship) and 5 months experience working here in automobile industry. My field is Process Engineering.. So you see the problem is experience. Any way around it?

Nah, your score will be low. You can start applyn for a Job in Canada until you get one or come up wt work experience, na u knw how u go do am but you will need something

Obiwannn:
Lol..i am already in Germany bros...

I de contemplate making the switch to Canada or Aussie via the skilled residence program. Any info for me?

If you have an MSc, ur chances are high provided you have the right age, work experience, English score and if your spouse also have a BSc, good age and work experience then u are likely to get it. Remember you also need to have the required amount of money in your bank statement

Obiwannn:
German Masters nko

I don't know much abt G, but I think you will be allowed to stay for some years after your studies and their schools are cheaper.

shinarambo1:
exactly. if you are good, nothing stops you from achieveing whatsoever you desire. That same nigeria people are running from, i know people that have excellent jobs that take them all over the world. yet all they have is their bsc from oau or unilag. some are even hnd from yabatech. Like i said...if you are good. you would always make it irrespective of any country you go for your masters. only sore losers whine all day about a country deceiving them.

I agree God can bless ur hussle anywhere

Jethrolite:
I'm very calm right here, we are still turning round and coming to the same point. Op is passing a very critical message across to people especially those who getting a foreign degree is not the primary reason they find themselves in a foreign university but sharing his own experience and the way he is sharing it is like those who are already making a terrible mistake have hope in the future. We both know as we write there are people that are processing admission at various stages, have done visa application and there are some that have gotten visa and waiting to resume. Isn't it better those that have gained admission or applied for visa or even waiting to travel to the UK get a clear story that they are on the wrong path now, cut their losses and see if they can meet up with 2017 winter or spring session in Canada?

We should remember once again that the primary audience for this thread are not rich kids who simply want to study in the UK then return home but people whose intention is to kiss Nigeria and the hard life goodbye until further notice.

Lol, kiss Nigeria and the hard life goodbye. You are right, some people are not doing M.sc degree because they love education. Its a means of xcape from Buhari's Gov lol.

Jethrolite:
Please stop confusing interested people with worthless knowledge that seems to make sense at first glance. So you think going to the UK then returning to Nigeria before going to Canada is better than going straight to Canada? Canada does not discriminate in any way. People like you just come online and cause confusion when someone has some real sense to pass across to the public. When you have friends and family who are interested in leaving Nigeria for good, you should advice them to go to UK first to waste their hard earned money then return to Nigeria before applying to go to a country like Canada. It is this type of bad advise 2 of my friends received and went to the UK only to return to Nigeria. One even went as far as doing 2 masters in the UK, where are they today? They are both jobless in Nigeria trying to sort their lives out and just discovering they should have headed to Canada or Australia in the first place.

Again, keep this your advise for private use. Do not confuse people here. I am even surprised Justwise is supporting this your view that can ruin a person's destiny and destroy their family. Do you know some parents go as far as selling land and borrowing heavily just to send their kids abroad only for the kids to make the mistake of going to the UK and eventually being bounced back after their study.

This guy is really angry but to be honest. Knowledge and information is POWER

justwise:
No you see they don't do that because they think they can play the system, within 9months you have spent 4millions of your money and have just 6 months to leave the UK then desperate measures set in..sham marriage, credit card fraud, claiming to be gay etc.

lol lol @ claiming to be gay. Nija no go kill us

justwise:
Yes sham marriage is what a lot of people encourage here and that is the sort of marriage you get in a 'quicky' for your money.

You just find out that you love the body of a black woman? Dude its not only white women that does sham marriage.

You don't spend at least 5 million just to come to the UK to look for a wife

Lol, Eddy Mofy do am in coming to America

JW214:
Before you think marriage is the simplest thing to achieve a resident in the UK, please be aware that before you can marry a British(am not sure of EU) who can sponsor you as his or her spouse, both of you must be working and earning up to £12k or £18k (am not sure of the exact figure)

Lol bros - they are very soft on family stay, with or without money especially if she get belle

justwise:
Like i said before..the UK immigration policy is a public knowledge and before you spend your millions to study in the UK think carefully what your opportunities are, don't come and start moaning about how bad the immigration policy is, you were not forced to choose the UK.

Hoping to get married and stay back is actually a very shallow minded plan because that doesn't guarantee you a brighter future in the UK.

Basically you are entry into life mortgage after the sham marriage

sham marriage? Who said anything about sham marriage? Cant you fall in love and marry someone genuinely? As for me, I don't encourage the marriage route cos I got to find out that I LOVE THE BODY OF BLACK WOMEN. However, marriage is still an option if you fall in love for a white woman. there is nothing wrong with it.

I will agree with you that there is no need moaning about their immigration policy, nevertheless we can inform our people so that they know what they are getting into. Its just for information sake.

chaiks:
From wat I v read and heard, I think spending lots of money in UK only to come back to Nigeria and start looking for job is foolhardy. I remember during my NYSC,I v friends that grad from UK and came back to serve. Majority of them v not gotten any job in Lagos now and some are planning on a move to not so popular European countries for continuation of life. D worst is Dat UK hardly give scholarships. The op is correct in wat he is saying. Now folks, can someone with a good grade in Nigeria apply for d Canadian express entry visa. Or are there small countries where one can get MSc scholarship with a cgpa of 4.49 and a good ielts score. I don't mind even if I study in Malta. All I want is to get a blend of international experience and move to better countries.

Yes you can use ur Nija degree for Express entry but you go need enough points for age, English, work experience and same for ur wife. Scholarships are a lil hard to come by but you can get by constantly applying

JW214:
I disagree with you. I have a cousin who studied in Aston University. The visa issued her was from January 2015 until June 30, 2016 and the course end date was May 2016.

As a student, getting a job or employer immediately after study that will sponsor your visa is like almost impossible, the reason is just because the salary required before your employer can sponsor your visa is higher than what most employer will pay a fresh graduate, especially one without a UK experience.

So the only strategy that a student coming here to stay may consider is getting married as soon as he or she lands in the UK. If you are thinking of getting a job that will sponsor your visa within the space of your end of program in the Uni and visa end date..... Well they say miracle happens but this is reality, it is almost 90% impossible.

Tell them o cos me I don tiya to argue. Na here I don de for some years so I know wetin I de talk

LagosismyHome:
Nothing guarantee you a job ooo . I moved to the UK from the USA with good years of experience and US degrees with intra company transfer .. After one month i said let me just checked the Market , even with my experience and USA degree , UK agencies were like great but you dont have UK experience ....3 Months of chasing jobs i kept hearing that . As i was not really looking i face my work ooooo . a year later i said let me test the market again , this time my phone will not stop ringing ..........I was amazed at what having one year work experience in the UK did . ....So this job market its funny and no guarantee

Madam you hit the nail on the head. I like hearing from people who speak from their experience (still the best teacher). If you are not given the opportunity to stay and improve your self it is very diff to get a job just fresh out of Uni. There are so many people with degrees so you need something extra. That's the truth.

lascopes:
Drop me ur contacts, I will call you in 50 years time when I am ready for M.sc

lol I no fit laff abeg.

atarapa:
Ok I no come again.

You fit come if na degree you de after, UK no bad except that u no go fit stay back

justwise:
They are not valued the same..that is the point i'm trying to make

Yes that's true, UK masters are well respected but you will be kicked out as soon as your done so why not go to places that will allow you to stay while also gaining a well respected degree from that country.

shinarambo1:
Timing is essense. How would it have been easy to arrange msc transcript from nigeria..ask current guys trying to apply for express entry what they go through coupled with the rising exchange rate and selection point.
Also while in canada, having an msc from a uk university has opened does for me. canadians and australians respect uk alot. Its the motherland to them. Autralia even has a special visa for post grad of some specific uni, not sure a nigerian uni is listed in that program.
Also, the pgwp does not gaurantee a job in canada just like psw visa never gauranteed a job in the uk. Do you know how comoetitive it is in getting a good job in canada? canada has an extremely small widespread economy. Despite the removal of psw visa, guys that went to excellent uni's in uk still get jobs. A younger relative just got a job with woods engineering even before completing his msc from ucl.
Another from unisalford got a job with accenture before grad and these companies are sponsoring their visas.
Whereas i know nigerians with msc degrees from usask and u of c still hustling for jobs in canada. Now they are running out of their psw visa and don't even have enough points to qualify for express entry. its even almost impossible to qualify for express entry with anything less than a masters too in canada.
Irrespective of whether you graduate from US, UK, Denmark, Australia e.t.c if you are good, you wont have a problem migrating to other coutries in the world.

Your argument is a lil different from mine. Yes UK degrees are well respected as are degrees from Canada, US etc. My point is that the immigration policies are not WELCOMING, simple point. I like to talk with Statistics, how many people get a job as soon as they finish their studies - very very few. From my experience, the longer you stay, the more you understand the system. So you will discover that those who have stayed for years will go on to obtain professional certifications, training etc that makes you more employable. I even know people who started working as volunteers and interns after their studies and with those extra experiences they got jobs.

Bros, I am so such of what I am saying, is it not better to go to a country where you can get a degree and a stay instead of a place where you will be required to leave after graduation? With a UK degree, u will still need years of proven work experience, the right age, good IELTS score etc in order to be eligible for Canadian immigration. Trust me on this one. Thanks

justwise:
Should we take that as a bad joke?

I am 100% sure that Canadian Federal Express Entry immigration programme will give someone who has a masters from Nigeria, the same score they will give to another person with a UK masters. All they require is a degree that is equivalent to Canadian degree. If you use World Education Services or other company, you will discover that a Nigerian masters is equivalent with a UK masters. I am 100% sure of this.

worry359:
11. Don't create distracting posts with: ALL WORDS BOLD / huge font sizes / ALL CAPS / distracting imagesspaces, etc.

Oookey, now I see. thanks

justwise:
Please pay attention to rule number 11

For this simple, non offensive post? Ok o. I go look for the rule

shinarambo1:
it all depends. I wont be a citizen of canada today if not for my UK masters degree. So many of my friends took up citinzinship in Australia too. Our MSc from the UK gave us high scores in immigration programs of those countries.

M.Sc from Nigeria will also give you THE SAME high score when applying for Australia and Canada. How many people are lucky to move to other countries from the UK after their studies? 1 in 1000. But if you study in Canada, you are given an automatic work visa of 2 years on graduation which gives you a very high chance of getting a job. After the 2 years visa, they give you a permanent residency. UK M.Sc is worth it but people should just be aware that they are required to leave after graduation. That's all.

Nulasco:
True fact. After spending over £12000 for Masters still you wouldnt be allow for PSW. I know people doing their second Msc in uk just hoping things would work out. The all come home looking for jobs. I don't know why people still go to uk for study and think they can stay after to work. Have never encountered a Germany, Australia, Usa or canada graduate coming back to nigeria not to talk of lookin for job so far he/she graduate with a good result and a relevant degree there's always opportunity that can't be said with Uk graduates. If u lookin for greener pasture abroad after study dont go to uk.

You sound informed. Yes, the tuition fees is just too expensive and immigration is a no go area, they don't want you to spend a single day beyond your study time but Nigerian students keep coming to spend their hard earn money due to LACK OF INFORMATION. The truth is that there are so many countries out there that will allow you to stay for some years after graduation and if you get a job during that time, then you are allowed to stay indefinitely.

Honestly, if you have enough money to spend for oversea tuition fees then you should go to countries that will allow you to stay. The longer you stay in a country, the more experience you gather and the more your chances of getting a good job. The UK does not give you that opportunity. I know so many unpopular countries where you can go and have A VERY GOOD LIFE AND JOB AFTER STUDIES. The UK is good for RICH Nigerian kids looking to get a degree and return to their country as soon as they finish.

Yes o, don't be ignorant. My good friend lives in Finland and he's doing well. People should go to countries that can allow them stay back..

I have observed that a lot of Nigerians are ignorant of some basic facts about the UK before choosing to study here. I have met so many people whose desire is to stay back in the country for a few years before returning to Nigeria. However, they get disappointed when on arrival they discover that there are no immigration programmes designed to keep them in the country beyond their studies. Hence I thought I should educate us a little just so that you ahead of time. I have been in the UK for 7 years so I am speaking from experience.

The UK is a lovely country, people here are respectful, you will get on with little or no problems at all. However, IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY to study abroad and IF YOUR INTENTIONS are to stay back to work for a few years before returning to your country. THEN THE UK is a wrong choice. During the Labour government students were allowed to stay back for two years after graduation but the Conservative Party (currently in Gov) is heavily ANTI IMMIGRATION. Therefore YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO LEAVE THE UK AS SOON AS YOU GRADUATE except you get married or get certain types of jobs (Trust me, YOU WONT GET THOSE JOBS within ONE YEAR), you will be kicked out of the country. ONLY students whose primary intentions are to study and go back to their jobs, husband, rich parents, wife or other commitments should come to the UK for studies. THE UK IS VERY SENSITIVE TO IMMIGRATION RIGHT NOW. they don't want IMMIGRANTS in the country anymore.

For those who want to stay back and work for some years after graduation, you SHOULD go to CANADA, USA, SELECTED EU COUNTRIES, AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND and others. These countries have immigration programmes to allow you stay back in their countries before returning to NIGERIA, if you want to.

Please note that I am not discouraging people from coming to the UK, as far as I am concern, the UK is a friendly country with good human right. You will love it here but just beware that they are no longer VERY WELCOMING TO IMMIGRANTS. I think they are tired of people coming to their country, it is a good place to study if all you are after is the certificate. However, from my recent experience with Nigerian students (always trying to stay back to no avail) I just thought you should know that there are other countries out there that support or have immigration programmes to support ex students who wants to stay back in their country. [b][/b]

I AM IN THE UK SO I CAN SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE, PLEASE CHOOSE CANADA AND USA BEFORE CONSIDERING THE UK. REASON - THE UK IS NO LONGERIMMIGRATION FRIENDLY BUT IT IS STILL BETTER THAN MOST RACIST COUNTRIES, THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE UK IS THAT YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY AS SOON AS YOU GRADUATE. HENCE, CANADA AND USA ARE MUCH MORE BETTER

Don't give anyone money, I AM currently in the UK and will be very happy to give free information about how to get jobs, accommodation etc

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