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bykebyke:
Luis Enrique: "I'm responsible for the loss."
Ter Stegen: "I'm responsible for the loss."
Busquets: "I'm responsible for the loss."


Thunder fire una three..Bunch of Bombastic elements

If you dey talk all these, wetin we Chelsea fans go talk.

dmcdad, How market.

Glory hunters.

Okay.

Let me see if I can talk to the owner of nairaland..

bigkesh:
We will soon be

Please think of the Club we will Loan him to.

bykebyke:
You guys ain't the owner of Dahoud right?

Na. We ain't.

The guy is good though.

lekkie073:
OK...let me give u a link to help urself out....


http://www.statarea.com/expert


check out Joyan and Gabriel and test run their predictions

Thanks man for th Link. I really appreciate..

Nihilist:
I personally don't care if you agree or not.

I just feel it's my duty to put out relevant information for anyone who is interested to read for themselves.

dazall.

You are done with the talk na..

And I said I agree with it..

There is no need to argue about it again.

Yea. Emenalo is just a figure head.

I agree now.

lekkie073:
OK...let me give u a link to help urself out....


http://www.statarea.com/expert


check out Joyan and Gabriel and test run their predictions

. Thanks man.

Nihilist:
A lot of your slack talk can be avoided by simply using google before you post.

Pato is represented by Kia Joorabchan.Kia Joorabchan also represents Oscar, Ramires and Willian. Oh, and Matt Miazga.

Kia Joorabchan used to own a company called MSI.
Abramovich reportedly owned a 15% stake in MSI.
Kia Joorabchan and Boris Berezovsky used to be business partners. Abramovich used to be Berezovsky's protege.

Connect the dots.

See connections..


Lets assume your assumptions are right, and you were able to connect the dots


Why have a TD when you can do the job as the owner.?


Yea. I get.. Emenalo doesn't do anything at Stamford bridge. He is just a figure head.

And I don't know why Roman keeps complaining about bad results. If he actually signed some of our players because he was someone's protege. .

Nihilist mehn.

What kind of riddle is this? This is 1976 shii riddle.

lekkie073:
X=NOTHING

Egbon Lekkie, You just forget me for here o. .

Shey because You be Man U fan and I be Chelsea fan?

You don't have to sign Pogba and Ronaldo and Messi before you play ball.. Barca did that with their recruitment this past summer.

Even if Marina/Roman will pay for Baba and Papy and Pedro and Pato, it was because the Technical Director recommended them. They didn't act on their own.

But I don't know why we are having this argument.

Lets see what the future holds. Everyone has a point. Its just about perspective.

Some people think its Abramovic, some of us think its the TD.

Some pages back, I asked y'all to vote. I think Abramovic got the Lowest though.

lordfalcao:
Marina is incharge of players transaction.. Emenalo is not a scout or a coach he have to act simply on the recommendation of the coach and scouts.

Emenalo is Roman's eyes. we are spending roman's money, all he has to do is submit recommendation of the scouts and coach to him. Roman makes the final say on who to buy. marian completes the deal Shikena!

I don't know if you can believe pictures over news or article then for you, you can believe anything...

Mr mourinho actually identified a right back which he actually sold after a season don't blame Emenalo over nothing.

If you actually believe what you wrote up here, then Nice. I will call it a day with you..

lordfalcao:
he is not the one that signs... go and read the article nihilist dropped.. mourinho identified Costa and Luis for reason best know to him he was the one that gave the order for Luis be sold..

what are you actually saying?

What I am saying is that, Marina is the one the does players transactions, but she is not the one that chooses the players to do transfer with. She has to get recommendations from the Director.

There are buys that don't include the Pogba and the stones of this World and they are smart business. You can check Barcelona's and part of Man City's business this season.

Emenalo is Abramovich's Guy. Emenalo doesn't even need anybody's permission to see Abramovich.

All these news that says Marina is the Link between Abramovich and the Board (Including technical director) is just formalities.. You can check the internet for pictures just to confirm.

All we are saying is recommend good players and competent ones. Ceaser at left back for the past 3 Years shows the height of our board's incompetence, starting from the person that recommends players.

lordfalcao:
blame ibime, he made most of all here believe Emenalo was the Main culprit. but Nah I am seeing a different picture to this!!

Don't bring Ibime into this at all. He is a Chelsea fan, and he has all right to point out whatbis wrong.

When a Director can't sign a left back, then sells the only back Up left back we have in the team, after series of loan moves and till today, we haven't been able to get another left back..

But No, Its Ibime we would blame, its not the person that identifies where we are short of players on the pitch ..

Never happened before you. We never stocked pile players and shared them to almost all countries in Europe before 2011. But still, its Ibime we would blame for identifying this incompetence and showing it to his fellow fans.

Greatihex:
where did I say he did something. Even without doing much, they were still better than pedro.

I have heard you.

bigkesh:
Good then.....
But if Emenalo doesn't sign anyone,who signed Djijilobodji and Miazga?
Because those look like a TD signing

Nihilist has a point. Marina is in charge of player transaction, but who recommends these type of players? That should be the TD. Right?

Nihilist:
The more you repeat this, the more ignorant you sound. Like I said, google the woman. Google her accomplishments in football. Not just at Chelsea too.



I honestly don't know what to say to this.

I agree with your sentiments, but not with the assertion that she doesn't know anything about football. What we can both agree on is the fact that she is not from a sporting or football background.

The issue here is that you believe that due to her relative lack of football knowledge, she would automatically defer to Emenalo's opinion as the subject matter expert.

I, on the other hand, am more concerned with the fact that despite her relative lack of hands on football coaching experience, she(and Roman) as the holders of the cheque are the ultimate decision makers when it comes to player recruitment...ergo we only buy players that Marina and Roman agree are worth the price.

So when you complain that Emenalo is influencing Marina and Roman to buy rubbish, I'm asking how many purchase requests have been denied, vetoed and overruled by that pair.

The public pursuits of, and failures to land the likes of John Stones, Luke Shaw, Paul Pogba, Koulibaly et al show us that at some point the cheque holders decided that these players were not worth the prices being quoted. How many more times has this happened?

This is the question that you really should be asking....

Lol. Lets just call it a day on this issue. I am backing out.

After a very poor season in over 20 years, and not qualifying for Europe for the 1st time in almost the same number of Years, we expected them to splash the cash and break the bank, so as to get back to the Pinnacle of European football..

But

We are getting this shït and having Panic buys at the end of the transfer window. So you should understand why I am putting the blame on Emenalo here!

And I don't think Roman is afraid of breaking the bank.

If Marina knows something about football, and she knows what it means to build a team and she is the one sanctioning these mediocre buys when Emenalo has recomended top players, then We wish her all the best. (But I don't think that's the case here)..


So, tell me who are you putting the blame On now? Marina?

Nihilist:
This is probably the most ignorant statement ever.

Research Marina Gravnoskaia. You think a 39 woman gets on the board of one of the biggest clubs in the world without knowing about football?

Bimffo come correct abeg.



I'd like to know exactly what you mean by 'Our problems started immediately from Emenalo regime.' before we proceed.

What problems are we talking about here?

Marina joined the board 2013. She is a Business woman. She has been the right hand of Roman for 17 Years..

I am not literally saying she doesn't know anything about football. Sure, she will always know when her team scores.

But she doesn't know where we lack on the pitch. She doesn't know that we need a decent natural left back since Ashley cole, and its Emenalo's job to know that.

She doesn't know Ivanovic has been shiii since 2 Years ago. If she does, she won't hand him a New contract.

She doesn't know ninnies like Oscar and Matic still play for the club and Decent Players like De bruyne has been sold.

3 of our back men are over 30+ and she is handing them new contracts and You want me to believe she knows something about football..?

Does Man city sporting Director have 2 Heads.. There is no player Mancity bought this summer that we couldn't buy. But No, its the Falcaos and the Patos of this world we get to sign.



About Emenalo. Check the signings we made pre Emenalo and Now. You will know the problems I am talking about..

Don't you wish to see a Midfield trio of Essien, Balack and Lampard at SB again.?

Tval:
All these Hazard fan boys are annoying

Sha leave them o.

Nihilist:
The question you should be asking is who is on that list of suggestions, and in what priority.

You should be asking how many deals have been dropped by the wayside because they cost too much from Gravnoskaia and\or Roman's perspective...

A person who does not cut a cheque cannot make a decision. If Emenalo is not the one who ultimately decided whether a player is worth buying for the club, then how is he to blame for our problems?

Oya thesis.

Marina doesn't know anything about football. All she does is business. She just needs a little convicing that this player is worth this and she will splash the cash. She sees how Madrid, Barcelona, United and Man city spends a lot to be on top na.

So, why won't she wanna spend.?

We were signing good quality players before Emenalo. So what changed? Our problems started immediately from Emenalo regime. What changed?

Why did we start this attitude of stock piling players when he became Director?

Why did Mourinho want him out of the position before his arrival in 2013.?

Why? Why? Why?

Nihilist:
The point I'm trying to make is that Emenalo cannot be held responsible because he does not make any decisions. He doesn't cut the cheque.

Abi you want to blame him for recommending players?

How many other clubs do you know where like 4 different people are pictured with the player signing the contracts?

Where this argument died the last time was when Ibime and Griffon both agreed that Marina Gravanoskaia is the one that negotiates the deals with the selling clubs - yet neither one of them was able identify how Marina determines a players worth. I mean, it's not like there's an argos catalogue for footballers where a picture of each player is listed next to their prices in neat columns.

If Emenalo is not the one who cuts the cheque, then he surely cannot push for any player...he can only suggest.

This is from the Guardian last year.




https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/03/premier-league-transfers-who-decides-club-buys

Yea. I agree with you that Emenalo doesn't cut the cheque and he doesn't negotiate with Rival clubs..

But he recommends players? Right? That is where I think he is at Fault..

The stuff is Marina will likely listen to Emenalo before she listens to anyone on the kind of player that we need to buy. Emenalo is the Director. Marina cuts the cheque.

What type of Player does Emenalo suggests for Marina. What type of Player?

Emenalo suggests a player, Marina negotiates with the Player's club.

I don't think Marina just goes straight to a rival club then start a player's negotiation without the Director recommending the player.

Or what do you think?

timbros:
B*mffo

That is Terry marking Cahill actually. Not the other way round...lol

But Terry's eye is at the ball so he didn't know it was Cahill. He thought is was Thiago Silva.

But Cahill, being a useless player he is, is facing his goal. Who does that?? Only useless defenders! lol.

I have a feeling Cahill left Thiago Silva to mark Terry, confusing terry in the process.

You are very right. Everyone was facing the other way, Cahill was facing his goal post. Mehn, we have suffered.

Nihilist:
Like this guy abi?

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/47555dac6740642dd9a3a5668b5daa2bb54da58c/0_259_4900_2938/master/4900.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=ea8106d56548d0f83d0a3693a6c77dce

When it all goes titts up, blame Emenalo.



Papy did not play for us. Rahman barely played. Neither is at the club today. Most people will agree that Matic, Cahill and Ivanovic at the very least, are currently our worst players.

Of course, Emenalo still has to be brought into the discussion because, hey! It's Emenalo.

Let me help you complete this part. David Luiz is crap defensively, and Alonso can't seem to make the team - Blame Emenalo.



I'm sure it was Emenalo driving the Okada. When I said 'I blame Emenalo' earlier, you asked me if I was joking...why you dey ask na?

Lol. I don't want to go into this argument with you. You and Daddy Ibime have had this argument countless of times. I even lost count sef.

You said Papy and Baba never played, so why were they bought in the 1st place.? Last season was our worst season in like 20 Years and both of them never broke into the team.

We bought these guys for back up. If the regular players like Cahill, Matic füücks up, we would have them to count on.. (See Barca's business this last summer) Swift and cool.


On that Chelsea's board, Emenalo is technically the only one with football idea. No purchase or sale is done without him knowing. So why wouldn't I blame him.?

One of the reason he and Mourinho always had issues. Mourinho knew the team needed to be fortified last season, but see the kind of players that were gotten for him. Apart from Pedro, others were mediocre players.!

Where is Miagza, Baba, Luis, Papy, Falcao, Pato, Kennedy, Micheal Hector? Where are these lots?

But I know you, you won't still agree with me.

PS: Pep said we needed like 10 new players but we handed Ivanovic, Cahill and Co. new contracts. Who did that? Abramovic? Or you think Emenalo won't know about it?

raumdeuter:
Shey I no be god? Una suppose erect temple dey worship me.

Nihilist:
I dont know if you know that Jose reportedly convinced Abramovich directly to call the owner of Anzhi directly on deadline day to hijack Willians move to spurs.

Or if you knlw that Jose tried to sign Willian for Manyoo this summer.

When all fails, you need to blame Emenalo for signing a player you don't like.

Im with you all the way bro.

This morning, I was almost run down by an okada in front of my office. I blame Emenalo naturally.

Lol. Don't get me wrong. Emenalo didn't sign Willian. Every one knows that. Jose signed Willy and Eto'o. But most players, Emenalo signs them for Us.

Example is with Papy Djiboloji and Baba Rahman. Mourinho said He trusts the people that signed them. Who are the people

And about the okada, be careful next time. and Yes we have to blame Emenalo. Sign correct player, E no go sign. How would your mind be in one place.?

bigkesh:
Barca replaced Abidal,Alaves,Messi,Xavi,Eto and henry nicely
Bayern got another Robbery in Coman and Douglas

We can't even replace Kalou

Emenalo was appointed in 2010,that was the last time we had a good squad

Emenalo was born in Aba na. The guy is Aba made, I swear.

Ordinary Kalou, we can't replace.

Why did we buy Willian in the 1st place?

bigkesh:
Best set up for now.....But we both know Hazard can't/won't track back

Thank you very much. In the 3-5-2 formation, are we making use of a Wing back? If Yes, can Hazard play at that position.

bigkesh:
There is a difference between Lampard-Ballack-Essien-Mikel diamond and Hazard-Fabregas-Kante-Moses diamond

Diamond don't usually fit wingers

I remember Carlo even had to change to 4-3-3
Lamp-Ballack-Essien
Anelka-Drogba-Malouda

I am not suggesting we play 4 -Diamond -2 with this set of players o.. We can't even try it with Kante, Oscar, Matic and Fabregas.

I was just remembering how we played then. And Yes The diamond formation don't accomodate Wing players.

Happy Birthday to Ballack..

Within 6 Years, we went from Ballack - Lampard patnership to Matic - Oscar Partnership.

Hmmm. How time flies.

Batshuayi and Costa patnership for 90 minutes will be cool. They gonna give any defence a lot of problems..

One of the several times, you would appreciate Ancelotti's time at Chelsea.

4 - Diamond - 2.