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Reality3080:
i guess igbos only have their voice when it involves others,where is your voice to call out ikpeazu kerosene, what about orji family?

U only have time for tinubu but u don't care about your leaders.

U remember endsars but u don't remember akwuzu killings of Peter obi with d floating corpses.

Nobody will take u serious cos u hail your own thieves n condemn other people's thieves.

Tinubu isn't fit for presidency because he stole but orji uzor d ex convict is fit right?

Tinubu isn't fit for president because he supervised lekki massacre despite not holding any position but Peter obi that was governor then killed people n dump their corpses where everyone could see it n u believe he deserves it right?

Everyone have seen d kind of politics u play so we will all b hailing our thieves,let those people who can hail their thieves more have it

Oga i dont support orji uzor kalu for president there are better candidates. If osibanjo and kalu contest i will gladly pick osinbanjo tho he's a coward

Reality3080:
is there a law that stops south east from presenting a candidate n mobilising people to vote him?

Is there anything stopping south east from contesting?

All those people u mentioned didn't sit back in their village n start shouting it's our turn.

Do u realise that south east is not the only geopolitical zone that haven't had a president?

You still dont get it. Abeg im tired of explaining

Reality3080:
what do u mean by "let's have d ticket first"......guy,fight for d ticket like everyone else don't believe u will have it on the platter of gold.

This is democracy not monarchy

Hmmm see this one.. from obasanjo -- umaru musa yaradua -- goodluck jonathan -- mohammadu burhari. So where is someone from southeast? Is what u wrote up there called democracy?

Dsalvo:
You are the one who does not understand what is posted because you miss the essential point of the write-up or you deliberately ignore what is pertinent to Nigeria's pathetic situation today vis a vis the destruction of our collective future Igbos like Azikiwe, Ironsi, Nzeogwu, Ojukwu etal wilfully played a part in.

Yet you never blame those Igbos. You actually deify and cannonize them while maligning the well-meaning leaders of others.

All your insult, toxicity and malevolence is saved for the likes Awolowo who history vindicates as a visionary, nation-builder and solutions-provider who would have made Nigeria at least like a comfortable European Country had he not been undermined by greedy Igbos like Azikiwe and parochial, conservative and change-resistive Northerners whose devotion to unprogressive centrism continues to ruin us till today.

Read the section below, an important one from the article, and tell me if Awolowo did not propose an excellent solution that would have prevented the mess we are in which Igbo greed and parochialism contributed to in part.

Yet you Igbos always talk as if you are victims with no interest at all in admitting the ignoble part you played in the mess we are in today. Instead you are "victims of marginalization" other Nigerians are impeding or "holding back".

Is it not incredible that many Yorubas, like Tinubu and even ordinary Yorubas like myself, continue to advocate what Awolowo did many decades ago, in testimony to our moderation and reasonable nature, while you Igbos remain extremist chasing Biafra when things dont go your way and the North remains a conservative entity, fundamentally resistive to charge, and willing to continue enduring with centrist and unweildy "one Nigeria" that is killing us.

OP is clamouring for an Igbo President yet you all don't have the honesty to look at your political leaders to admit they are disloyal, party-hopping, failed, clueless, visionless, incompetent and unproductively corrupt politicians who have no meritorious right to be President ahead of Tinubu, Osinbajo etal.

Same way you ethnocentric lot could not see Awolowo’s vision and committed to sabotaging him, even as you Igbos would have benefitted from his ideas, is how you devote yourselves to "anybody but Tinubu/Osinbajo" ethnic jingoism and noise.

You guys remain who you are because you are unprogressive, self-serving, clannish, ethnocentric and greedy devotees to "me, myself and I" opportunism.

I understand that awolowo made a clear-cut vision of decentralised system of governance. This issue was given an audience at the national assembly and zik won the debate so why you making look as if it cannot be reversed. Besides you and i know that the 1999 constitution is a fraud. On the issue of tinubu i hope u know he is extorting alot from lagosians and osibanjo is just a coward. Igbos always stand there group we are not scared of anyone. You can call us names but not coward.

Sunday2021:
you cannot insult me everyday and expect me to vote for you.
This is democracy and majority must always win,
Every Igbo man have the right to contest , but you cannot force people to vote for you.
Election is won by lobbying, building briedges, having a good relationship with others, respect the people that accommodated you anywhere you go. Those are the qualities that the igbos don't have, they igbos like bragging, they believe everybody is a fool except them, they believe they cannot lobby others in order to get their support, they play their politics with emotions. They don't have respect for their landlords,their horrible life of cheating make every tribe in this country afraid of them,no one ethnic group in this country that have trust in the Igbos, even their brothers in the Niger delta don't trust the igbos because of what the igbos did to Adaka Boro when he decleared Niger delta republic.
If you want to go back to your region, nobody stops you.

Omo see beef. Voting is not by force now or is anyone forcing u. Lets have the ticket first if we fail we fail. No one has issued any threat like buhari did when jonathan was on seat. Ogbeni came down!

Sunday2021:
and who tells you that federal government refused to recognize them as terrorist? Some of you are illiterates I swear. First of all who took the issue to court? It was federal government that went to court seeking the declearation of bandits as terrorist.
Secondly, did you watch the Arise interview with Malami?
Whenever you want to open your mouth, pls ensure you have a first hand information about the subject matter.
If the north really hate you, they would have not received and accommodated you in the north.
Go to the north and see how igbos are leaving freely and they are also given lands to build their houses, can you say the same thing with the northerners leaving in the East?
75% of igbos are not residing in the East they are being received and accommodated in various parts of the country.
No government had ever patronize Innocent motors like the government of Buhari, is that one also hatred.
You killed many northerners last year in the East but the north remain quiet. Who hate who?
Always ask questions before coming here to open your mouth pls.

Oga calm down am talking about trust and marginalisation. How can you kill people at will and expect us to give u land to rear cow.. is something wrong with you? If any hausa man want to buy land in southeast is there anyone stoping him?

On the issue of declaring bandits as terrorist go and read this and get your fact right mister smart
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/fg-fails-to-declare-bandits-terrorists-weeks-after-court-order/%3famp

Sunday2021:
can you show me any letter written to the national assembly asking for referendum?

First of all i never said they wrote a letter to national assembly asking for referendum. National assembly make laws whereas referendum is like a vote of confidence.

Dsalvo:
OP, see below the realities of why Igbos are treated the way they are today. When we begin to examine history, it never favours Igbos.

It only shows you people up as grave wrongdoers who live in denial and continue to be committed to doing wrong today as your forefathers did decades ago.

Had it been that your historical wrongdoing were mistakes you have moved on from, and committed to atoning for, then other Nigerians would have forgotten those mistakes and assimilated you into the generality of their affairs all the way to the Presidency.

Look at the Jonathan Presidency you hijacked and turned into an Igbo Presidency you clamoured must be used to "punish" and marginalize others like the Yorubas and Fulanis?

Who is going to trust you with the Presidency when you show, again and again, over many decades, that you remain committed to clannish politics, tribalism and irredeemable hatred of others because of their ethnicity, religion and sectional affiliation?

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/07/zik-is-the-trouble-with-nigeria-2/amp/

Bro you have alot of hate in you try and cool off. You mentioned igbos insult people alot. Take for instance if someone insult the president how long do think he will spend in jail?

Dsalvo:
Continued:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/07/zik-is-the-trouble-with-nigeria-2/amp/

Bro if you truely read this article and u truely believe that mistake azikiwe did by truely believing in one nigeria cannot be forgiven then you are a demon. The writer pointed out where azikiwe won a debate against awolowo at national assembly. Pls note that he wasnt suppressed it was a debate. Then the writer also pointed out where massob and ipob said since you dont trust us then let us go but the government refused. Alot of ppl here are saying you have to go through a rigorous process to get majority vote at lower and upper chamber. Let me ask you when awolowo and zik had that debate in 1953 did they go through those process? This issue of going back to regionalism was presented at the national assembly but it was swept under the capet. Why cant you understand that theres something wrong. The writer also pointed out were among all the 6 geopolitical zone its only southeast that has 5 states including one state from north central while the rest is 7 states.

Im really shocked you dont even understand what you posted

aribisala0:
I answered the question asked.

Now you say you do not like the answer.
First you must establish that that is what the people of the region want. Do you dispute that?
If no how do we determine what the people want?


Who said it will be easy? It is not supposed to be

The options I have given you are the only options
Go to war or use politics.



So because Nnamdi Kanu started making noise we should believe that is what Ibos want? Is that fair to those who are voting governors etc condemning IPOB?

The bottomline is that you have to rise up and start talking and acting like adults. This is not child's play . Put sentiment to one side and act rationally

I dunno y finally u dragged me into ipob issues.. buh if that maybe the case let them first of all remove that name tag terrorist because it completely decimated the whole movement. Funny enough its only nigeria that recognise ipob as terrorist group.

aribisala0:
What criteria did you use to determine this

Name one achievement they have that the people of Kogi State or Lagos State are desperate for them to replicate

Good governance, the ability to manage the little resources u have at ur disposal and still keep ppl happy. If you have ever heard of ebony state of which i doubt u have, go there and receive the biggest shock of ur life i dont need to mention his achievements the evidence is glaring

aribisala0:
OPTION 1
Elect people who will go to the National Assembly with that agenda
Elect governors who are committed to that agenda , Elect members of the House of Assembly with similar thinking
Pass resolutions calling for a referendum
Failure to elect such people indicates that it is a minority and unpopular view
In Scotland the ruling Party is the Scottish National Party with a clear independence agenda
Why can't IPOB do the same?
OPTION 2
Go to war again

How can you compare a system that works and a system that is rubber stamp? Common constitutional review and amendment is very difficult. How on earth do you think they will allow us to infiltrate the lower and upper chamber? Instead pdp and apc will merge and fight tooth and nail. What u are saying is nearly impossible and u know it.

Dsalvo:
Why won't it give you serious whatever? You lot are allergic to the truth. All you people like are lies, blatantly fraudulent revision of history and playing the victim every day with total disinterest in admitting your wrongdoings.

I will give you an example even an unfair person like you cannot deny as it happened recently and not in 1967.

What did Igbos do when invited to join fhe APC merger? They committed themselves to insulting the Party, demonizing it's image home and abroad plus rejecting the Party outright for their usual politics of hate enmity and tribalism.

Now that APC became the ruling Party without
any input from Igbos, how are you lot behaving?

Today Igbos are blackmailing everyone in the APC, especially Yorubas who paid their dues diligently , to step aside and let them have a Presidential ticket they do not deserve.

If APC reject Igbos would that be "marginalization" or deserved fate for a people who are dishonest, dishonourable, hateful and always happy to reap where they have not sown?

I never see a single Igbo condemning the parochial and dishonourable action of Igbos. Instead it is to be attacking Tinubu and all Yorubas in the APC while they do not have the nerve to tackle Fulanis in the PDP who have told them blatantly not to even think of getting the Parties ticket.

There is no "marginalization". Just distrust for what everyone knows the Igbos have shown themselves capable of doing.

Sheh this apc you talking is the one buhari belongs to.. the candidate they chose to contest for president was a massive failure. The only place i can say he tried is infrastructure nothing more. Then tinubu is now clamouring for that same ticket of which nigerians will still remain in agony if he wins. All these grammar you dey talk na smoke screen. The likes of peter obi, dave umahi and ifeanyi ugwanyi are one of the finest politicians we have in nigeria but because we cant be trust as usual they are scared. Bro i want u to know that this politics we are talking about is personal interest,, nigeria is not ready. Do you know the gdp growth of Ethiopia before they started having crisis. And we are here deceiving ourselves.

pyyxxaro:
It’s improper using a woman to anchor the show


An Alpha male would have been better.



And again no Nudity , Nigerian youths won’t bother



Make Gulder allow them de lash themselves once once , the show go booom once

The way nigerians think baffles me

Karleb:
It's a new year, please don't quote me to write trashy long epistles.

Bro the write up gave me serious head.. i dont even know where to begin to make him understand he is actually the problem

As usual these are part of what we complain everyday buh some people will still defend their callous ways. As far as North continue to rule this country it will only get worse

NGpatriot:
...because they are responsible for creating the same one Nigeria they hypocritically cry, shout and moan that they don't like today.

Only ibo people in the South wanted one Nigeria and decided to created Nigeria as a country, they even refused to insert secession language into the founding document that created Nigeria, they unilaterally made sure that Nigeria remains unbreakable, at least not easily.

When things did not go their way because they foolishly teamed up with the North to create Nigeria simply based on their usual childish emotions and sentiments and to spite the Yoruba people, instead of sound strategies and self-preservation.

When things did not go their way, they entered their usual self-destructive mode and deployed violence and bloodbath, they slaughtered military and political leaders from the North and SW. The North and the SW still installed an ibo man to be the next head of state while hoping and expecting him to do the right thing by punishing the sadistic murderers, but as usual, the ibo tribal and clannish mentality kicked in, he refused to even slap the blood thirsty murderers abd coup plotters on the wrist, this quickly showed the North that ibo people can not and never be trusted to do the right thing because with ibo people, the tribe comes first, so the North took matters into their own hands and slaughtered thousands of ibo people in the process, just imagine, you killed Northern leaders and still danced and celebrated in the North in front of Northerners., that was actually not the last straw.

Ibo people looked at their dominance within the civil service and decided to consolidate power into their hands, so the foolish ibo head of state quickly abolished regionalism, forgetting that power is transient and not stationary, the greed and self-serving scheme you created today is another man's tool to use against you when you are out of power tomorrow.

The North smelled blood and cornered the powerful center that ibo people created to retain and remain power, while blocking ibo people from ever getting to the center or anywhere near power because ibo people showed their dirty hands too many times to show the rest of the country how mean, callous, tribal and untrustworthy they can be.

Ibo people are sad victims of their own ways and creators of their own hopeless destiny.

They set Nigeria on a dangerous path from the beginning, when trust was golden and cherished.

They are reaping what they sow.

In all that you said you forgot that the north are very paranoid people. They find it very hard to trust other tribe. Look at how you twisted every details of what actually happened. I dont want to go into details of what major general aguiyi ironsi did to make sure this country was healed. They even went as far as killing the military governor of the west colonel francis. Now since they feel igbos cant be trust how have they improved the country and make it a better place for you and I?

ba7man:
This Azikiwe's move is one of the biggest political blunders ever made by a Nigerian.

That guy deserves a knock wherever he is now.

At that time it seemed like the right thing to do tho it wasn't entirely his fault.

kingawothefirst:
Stop making excuses for your laziness, just say you don’t want to do the work and play the long game. Everybody in the south speaks English or pidgin, stop being a tribal bigot and insulting every tribe in the south.

Build good relationships with every tribe and they will listen to you. Buhari will vacate the presidential seat in 2023 and he won’t be able to sign anything anymore, you can put people in place to revise everything he has signed. That is how it is done.

Stop wailing and change your self defeatists attitude. The battle won’t be won in a day, roll up your sleeves and do the necessary, stop wasting your life wailing on social media, it’s either you do that or go learn a trade that will make extremely rich so you can fly in and out of the country whenever you want.

It’s put up or shut up time.

Ok lets leave it at this.. if tinubu gets the presidential ticket for apc then u r vindicated

kingawothefirst:
Buhari is about to leave the presidential seat.

Politics is a long game, and if you are truly serious, then vote representatives that will represent your interests into the national house of assembly. Infiltrate both the upper chamber and the lower chamber.

Start from the grassroots, from your council men to your local governments all the way to your state governments. Give your votes to only the people will represent your interest and within a decade you will get whatever it is you are clamouring for. Anything else is just a waste of time and energy if you can’t play politics then focus on being rich so you can do whatever you want.

Oga what u pointed out is far from reach. The north comprise of 19 states while the south is 17 states. We have northwest, northeast and north central who speak same language. Whereas the southern part speak different languages. If not Obasanjo and Goodluck who else lasted a tenor to contest another election.

Let us go back to the six geophysical zones and allow every region to have autonomy of their resources then pay tax to federal government so that power will be evenly distributed. Dont you understand that 1999 constitution was as scam they dont wish to correct. The other day buhari refused to to sign the amended electoral bill but quickly sign the budget yet both of them have error. He can do whatever he likes because power is not evenly distributed.

Tingotoe:
Follow the political process and not through IPOB terrorism. You must elect representatives at the national level to push forward your cause in our legislature. Anything Short of this means no Biafra for you

Let me point out something quickly for you.. the federal high court in abuja declared yan bindiga and an ta’adda groups and other groups associated with or engaged in the same or similar activities as yan bindiga and yan ta’adda groups as terrorist group yet the federal government refused to recognise these people as terrorist.

Ipob submitted memorandum to the national assembly requesting for devolution of powers and restructuring of Nigeria into six autonomous regions but the issue was never discussed. They went as far as meeting the British for support but they believe in one nigeria. At the process a law firm was hired to debate on this particular issue.

Now i want to ask you a question. How do you elect a representative when president buhari wasted no time in declaring ipob a terrorist group without arms and ammunition. Even the western countries dont recognise ipob as terrorist group yet malami and co are working so hard to convince them.

You just dont understand the hatred these people have for us

ERockson:
Lamentation Chapter 1 Vs 20-23

I knew you wont answer my question because you hate igbos for no reason

DubaiLandLord:
Is only on Social media you guys are serious.

And the government have giving you guys the freedom to enjoy una online country

Una want Biafla but the people of Anambra dey vote APGA, APC and PDP

Jokers

I dont have any words for you i thought you have something upstairs

DubaiLandLord:
Did the Scottish only ask for referendum on social media?

You want referendum, yet, majority of the people in Anambra voted for parties like APGA, APC and PDP that does not believe in the division of Nigeria

You guys are jokers.

In Spain, the areas occupied by Catalonians, a party that believes in an independent country for Catalonians do win their election.

Ibos like you are jokers.

Lol you are the real joker.. did you actually think everything going on about Biafra was just a social media buzz. Well i dont want to talk about that let focus on the topic

longetivity:
This people don't know how to play politics, always lamenting

Wait we dont know how to play politics but nnamdi azikiwe brough the three protectorate together and we agreed on ruling the country by ourselves. How about that?

DubaiLandLord:
Nobody is stopping the Igbos from leaving Nigeria

Just do it through the right way

Asking for referendum is what.. the bad way?

kufre2010:
Igbos are suffering for trying to go against the will of God for Nigeria. Nigeria is not to be divided but to become a world power that will protect the black race.

Igbos need to be humble and stop bragging about how they are better and wiser than anyone else in Nigeria.

Then Igbos should embrace Igbos traditional cultures more just like Yoruba and Hausa and minimise their chanting of holy mary that does not help.

Jonathan run from church to church yet it did not help him win the 2015 election

Oga first of all dont bring religion or drag a particular believe of any individual or society. For the records we are highly enterprising which is a fact and im not bragging about it because the evidence is all over the country of which you cant deny. When the British colonized us they where scared of igbos because they never understood our tradition. Go read about aba women riot and know your history.

ERockson:
Lamentation Chapter 1 Vs 20-23

Dave umahi is one of the finest governors in southeast. If he contest for president under any political party that is not pdp or apc will you vote for him? Its a simple question dont twist it just gimme yes or no.

During the time of civil war that lasted for three years (1967-1970) was due to a disagreement on aburi accord meeting. In article 8 of the aburi accord general Gowon made... should i say a deliberate declaration. The really offending clauses of the decree were sections 70 and 71 of article 8 which empowered the military council to declare a state of emergency in Nigeria, if the Head of State and at least three of the Governors agreed to do so. Section 71 also empowered the Head of state in agreement with at least three Governors to legislate for any particular region whenever they deemed it fit during a state of emergency, with or without the consent of the Governor of that particular region. In effect, Gowon had taken power unto himself to deal with Ojukwu whenever he pleased, how he pleased and as long as he pleased.

Since that very time up till now everybody is scared of having an igbo president. Are we monsters that everybody is scared of us? If you dont want us to rule then allow us to conduct a referendum but you still say NO. So many times people in this forum say igbos dont have respect, we insult people alot therefore we dont deserve to produce a president from our region. Just look at how we are scattered all over the country creating major impact in economy yet for some reason we cant be trusted. What is the major insecurity up north if not the mineral resources but you call if farmers herders clash. Just yesterday the president ordered for six months progress report on solid mineral. Gold is being mined for several years up north with no accountability but when an igbo person talk about presidency everybody will on there fit to push us down.

So i am asking what have we done to deserve this level of mockery?

Why cant one of them die from this covic 1 9.

So this administration realised that borrowing is a good thing. God how did we allow this government to get so low. This is a monumental disaster. Guys by this time next yr the bread u buying 120, 150 will be 300

Black American are becoming aware of our culture more and more