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If my father was criminally interfering or tampering with justice, let them stone him...i wont raise an eyebrow.


....but you still haven't answered my question o

garykoeman:
Who told u their was no petition against him.

If it ur Father that was defamed will u say the same thing.

What school did you go to?
I just want to confirm something

garykoeman:
He should face the consequences of his action.


How can u label someone criminal without evidence.

This exactly is the issue with this bill. A good sndnprogeess8ve idea being pushed by a criminal will always be fraught with suspicion

The bill is fantastic but because it is being pushed by a looter criminal in Tinubu, it will suffer abortion. As it is, he will not win any election in the North easily.

Bizaustine:
Good reforms die in the hands of mere political figures who do not place delivering good governance as top priority.

The disaster and massive failure We have for president has already wrecked his image. Aside his Apc online zombies in reality people hustling on the streets of Nigeria know how he has messed the Country up in such a very short period of time.

If You try inform the average Northerner on the benefits of the reform, they go tell you se all them know na Tinubu na barawo.

The people don't trust T-pain, He has failed woefully making bubu look like a smart Genius.

Lol...you are a paid PR agent....easily found out

Let him prove his case, stop fronting for him.

No smoke without fire, you cant wake up ajs arrest someone fornfraud ifbhe has not been minglingbwith fraudsters or involved innitninbthe past

press9jatv:
I love the way pastor Idowu speaks here

Alleged N1.5bn fraud: Pastor Bolaji Idowu breaks silence, addresses allegations

The Lead Pastor of Harvesters International Christian Centre (HICC), Pastor Bolaji Idowu, has spoken out regarding allegations of his involvement in real estate fraud and money laundering.

Some media platforms (Not Tribune) reported on Tuesday that the cleric was in police custody for questioning over a fraud case involving N1.5 billion.

Responding to the allegations during his Next Level online prayer session on Wednesday, Pastor Idowu maintained his innocence regarding the claims.


He denied any involvement in real estate transactions, stating that he neither owns nor deals in properties.

Also, he refuted claims of receiving large sums of money, specifically billions of naira, into his accounts.

While refraining from addressing the allegations in detail, Pastor Idowu expressed gratitude to his congregations for their unwavering support.

In his words, “Over the last 24 hours, there’s been a lot of news about me on social media, about this and about that.

“I just want to state some facts clearly. I heard that number one, I was involved in real estate. I do not and anyone that has contrary evidence can produce it.

“I do not have any property in Nigeria. The only property I have in Nigeria was one that my late parents bequeathed to me. There is no property that I have bought or have in Nigeria.

“Secondly, I do not sell or buy properties. I am not in that business. Someone said I received billions into my account. My accounts are public accounts, you can go and check if I have ever received billions into my account.


“There are just a lot of things ongoing in the press but this is not a forum to address it. I want to thank all of you that showed a lot of love. Thank you for doing that.“


https://tribuneonlineng.com/alleged-n1-5bn-fraud-pastor-bolaji-idowu-breaks-silence-addresses-allegations/amp/

Nonsense. Slave mentality. So if a rich man oppressed you, you accept and gobcry innone corner, right?

Charly68:
The moral of this story is that : Don't offend the wrong person...A man of Afe Babalola's status won't permit any challatans to defame his character...they shall meet in the law court

When you get depraved of basic human thinking capacity and you have been long exposed to tyranny and oppression in the guise of governance asnpractices in a jungle like Nigeria, you begin to think like the poster below.

The question to test his sanity is to ask the poster why Farotimi needs to be denied a bail for the case to be accelerated at the court?

Whatever happened to granting him bail on a bailable offence to preserve his fundamental human rights as enshrined in the constitution where he is not a danger to the society, his bail is inimical and inljuroius to anyones rights or a threat to the furtherance of the case in court or has ever had a history of jumping bail in the past. Especially if he is willing to prove his case in court. Such a case can be accelerated in court but you cant justify denying him a bail except on the conditions I have stated above.

Only demented people not exposed to civilisation will ask that a fellow person be denied a bail just because theyvwant tobhear the case in court.

Bovis:
Wow, so this Dele guy bleeped up this much, I thought it was just a case of minor defamation but the allegations of bribing judges is criminal defamation not civil

These are serious allegations that can lead to reputational damages of those involved and a judicial review of all the cases

He ought to be denied bail and charged to court asap for him to present all his evidence to the world

Adeboye and Oyedepo are agba scammers/takers themselves

GOFRONT:
What's happening to our gods of Men??.

Our Gods of men are beginning to find themselves in the eye of the storm lately!!

As we speak, Pastor Idowu of D'FRANKLIN church is in FCID over 1.5B Estate fraud.......and now Tobi.

Adeboye and Oyedepo, pls include these two of your boys in prayers!!

Logical.

In my view though and as much as I despise the idea, Atiku has the best chances of defeating Tinubu. And a combination of him and Obi will be a monumental trajection towards victory.

In addition, only a party that is well known and nationally established structurally will be the best platform to defeat the APC. Any merger of parties now will be too late. That leaves PDP or LP and between them PDP is the more established.

Further, If PDP can get its acts together, given the growing opposition and loss of popularity of Tinubu in the North increasingly high disenchantment in the south west amidst perceived poor performance by the President which could lead to voter apathy during the next election, and permanent suspicion in both SE/SS, I see Tinubu becoming a one term president.

In my view, I think he lost it with the poor implementation of those reforms especially the devaluation of Naira and failure to curb unnecessary government spending/profligacy while asking citizens to endure hardship as a sacrifice

nairalanda1:
North did not support tinubu massively...infact, Atiku would have won the election of 2023, if not for Obi taking away votes in the SE, and Kano going to the NNPP, which enabled tinubu to eke out a small victory.

Also, Tinubu only got one of the K states, Kaduna...narrowly. Kano went to NNPP, and Katsina went to PDP. Infact PDP picked up Northern states that in 2019 it should have not taken

Also, in 2019, APC won the vote with 19 million. In 2023, APC only took 8.5 million votes.

What we are seeing is a fall in APC votes that is ongoing. At the end, in 2027, APC would probably lose badly.

The question is whether PDP can stay united enough, and whether Atiku can resist the temptation to run again. Also, Obi and co have to return to PDP.

This is a meaningless ans irrelvenat signing of little consequence...rather SA is tactically outsmarting the drug lord. He has been there twice this year.

You see that your last paragraph henh! Its a fact...100%

Stilloracle:
As
someone that attended school with this guy, i can tell U for a fact that i never believed in him as a pastor. I was very shocked the day i saw him on social media parading as a pastor. I screamed.
I'm not saying people cannot repent and turn new leaf but the Bolaji i know is CORRUPT.. Sexually, Morally and Financially. Dude cannot be a genuine pastor. IMPOSSIBLE!!
Even while preaching in school those days he was still morally bankrupt; sexually (even towards guys) and eating fellowship money.
I bet he saw the mumurism of Nigerians towards churching to further his scam.

And YES. I HATE PASTORS. PASTORS ARE SCAMMERS. Their followers are DUMB.

He has said absolutely zilch!!

When people come to a public discourse without a detailed breakdown of what they're not comfortable with,certainly, they are there to oppose your moves.

The tax bill is progressive in my view but Tinubu does not have the goodwill anymore. He squandered it on terrible policy options(national anthem,devaluation of naira, etc.)

Sensational journalims!! Govt. Propaganda machine at work.

For someone who confessed that he had not read the bill, how exactly did he come to the conclusion that it will end elite financial recklessness?

If you read the content and the headlines, they are saying two different things.

She knows what she is looking for

Makes sense

nairalanda1:
MY saying that Burkina Faso is in a mess does not mean I believe Nigeria is running a great economy.

Infact, what we are seeing in Nigeria is similar to Burkina. Decades of resource dependency, with revenue from a resource being used to prop up the economy for long, now failing because the country has never been a actual producer economy.

Of course, the result is the same.

Most African countries are in the same ship.

It is why we should have voted in or looked for a leader who would have made us a producer nation, that exports...manufactured goods and services

SO, Tinubu is awful. End of

Daft....see his stupid response devoid of facts, statistics and logic,just pure assumptions and illusions.

Get the best of governance system here, if the institutions to curb the excesses of the politicians are weak, results will still be the same.

How come people of the countries I highlighted to you are enjoying super life without local government automomy? Something must tell you that it is the people that make the government and not the government that make the people.

Get local government autonomy with the thieves you have now as politicians, it will still be failure upon failures.

Oponu.

BondRiv:
Here you go rambling again. Your gibberish is of no consequence, but I owe it to myself to teach people like you.

Whether you like it or not, if the LGAs are not autonomous, meaningful progress cannot be made in this country. The LGAs are the base and development must go from bottom to the up, else you will keep running in circles. People fit into the structure in a place. A strong institution is also a structure. Who is the visionary leader you want to put in this current local government structure that will transform it? Either you have totally lost touch with reality or do not understand the problem at hand. One thing I'm in agreement with is that your oblivity is outstanding.

You must adapt solutions to your circumstance. Not copy and paste. This is Nigeria, and presently one of the solutions to the underdevelopment bedeviling the country is autonomy to the LGAs.

...and it is not a big mess in Nigeria where the drug lord, being a CIA asset, is twerking non stop for the west for attention and acceptability...?

nairalanda1:
Actually he isn't.

The debt is forecast to rise and is rising, plus their equivalent of Boko Haram is basically running one third of the country. And they have herdsmen vs farmer issues there too. Live.

The economy has always been shit. It is reliant on cotton, and cotton prices are in a big mess, and have been for years. Matters are made worse by big cotton producers like the USA subsidising their cotton farmers, which makes it difficult for them to make much money from their cotton.

It's a big mess there.

This further confirms to me you are limited in knowledge. How easy it was for you to pick the US without stating that there are strong institutions to ensure accountability,probity and transparency to the people and pick up errant rogues within the system,at least to a great extent.

How easily you avoided countries that practice rigid ans stronger central autonomy but are thriving. Denmark changed its local government system on 2007 to a stronger centre and they're thriving, China,Singapore and to sone extent, Japan(with a stronger perfecture system) dont complain so much about local government automomy for them to see progress. Only buffons like you think Nigerias only solution is local government autonomy.

I am sure you got this off some fellow dimwits like you discussing publicly, very likely at a newspaper vendor stand near your ghetto in Mushin or Ajah bus stop in Lagos, and gbam!! ....by a stroke of misfortune, .myou all came to thought that Local government autonomy is the silver bullet to all the structural,economic and political solutions in Nigeria. This same way people in 1978 thought the Presidential system would solve all Nigerian issues ans jettisoned the Parliamentsry system...only for them to be valling for the return of the same Parliamentary system of givernment again as echoed by so many public commentators recently.

You all are daft. The system of the government or structure will always be as good as the people running it. Oponu!!

BondRiv:
Are there angels running the American system or other functional systems? Bring whatever visionary leader you want and put him in the local government system with this current structure, no progress will be made. I have to teach you these things because you clearly have no understanding, yet shamelessly arrogant in your ignorance. Just parroting words.

Tinubu also had plans in his manifesto and campaign speeches to make Naira like N300 to a USD.....where we dey now?

Lol...its so obvious you don't have an idea of what you are talking about. Angels from heaven will run the local governments for you, abi? Oponu

BondRiv:
Who is this rascal? You better go back to school. Structure matters a lot. The one we have is being stifled at the grassroot. Nothing is going to change until that is fixed. Don't comment on things you don't understand. Charlatan.

They are clueless

Lol....simpleton.

The LG chairmen are immuned to looting and bad governance, right?

Brainwashed buffoon.

Truth is fir meaningful development, you need disciplined,selfless and visionary leaders....structure of governance doesn't necessarily lead to development automatically

BondRiv:
For there to be concrete development, the LGAs must be truly autonomous.

Very informative.

My view however is that this bill, just like the original version if the PIB will be killed, not because itbis really anti people, butbmore because the harbinger, Tinubu, squadered all the goodwill he had on terrible economic policies hence it is now easy to galvanise thr opposition with misinformation. All mew leaders have that momentum before their populsrity begins ti wane and resistance to their term begins ti fester. He shoukd have come up with this first before all the nosense ones like the National anthem bill.....Just like Jonathan,Joe Biden, etc, he frittered away the goodwill and recency opportunitues when he was still not seen as a poor ans vision less leader....so much for all the noise abuot " being a brilliant strategist"

Too late now, bro...damage has gone too far

Too late now, bro...damage has gone too dar

Liar

Lol....its either the bill is represented with a lot of modifications and compromises to forestall growing opposition or it doesn't sail through.

With the house of reps postponing their public hearing indefinitely and the bill not being presented on the floor for sexond reading yet afyer ehat happmed innthe senate chambers.....that bill will go the way of PIB.

aribisala0:
opposition in the NW and NE let usvbe clear

They believe they will delay it the same way they did with PIB bill because they controlled the National Assembly

This bill will pass very quickly

Reasoning of a simpleton

simpleseyi:
Same as you said before the election, yet we trashed you.

We will pass the Bills, even if Heaven falls.

Even if no single Senator from the North and South supports the Bill, we will still pass it. Once SP Godswill Akpabio says “those in support say Aye”, if no single person says “Aye”, then silence means acceptance and consent, then the Ayes have it. If you like bring out guns on the floor of the House, once Godswill Akpabio pronounce God’s Will, it becomes LAW. Ogun kee una Mama.

Instead of bringing together your best brains to scrutinise the Bills and see how you can propose adjustments and modifications that will favour you, and if all you have in your states are serial killers, you can employ Consultants from any part of the world to help you scrutinise the Bills. Once you don’t do that, but you think you have any means of stopping the Bills, then you are damn for life, because we will pass the four Bills even if no single Senator besides the SP supports it.

You don’t know the new Sheriff in town, he is the head of the Mafias, so no kindergarten cabal can stop him, he is the god of Politics and Strategy, he is Emilokan Asiwaju Jagaban Omo Alhaja Abibatu Mogaji, won n le l’eyin, oun le ara iwaju

As good as the bill might be,Tinubu has frittered away the goodwill he had when he just came in hence the suspicion and opposition. He should have started with bills like this first instead of pushing for national anthem changes and somemother stupid and thoughtless reforms. The law of recency moght have favoured him... but now, opposition are mounting and increasing daily.

I cannot stop saying this...church na scam, Pastors are scammers

You obviously dont know what you are writing about.....

helinues:
Yes old glory. Apart from Algeria, tell me potentials which both Egypt and Sa have

I am back for you. Until I get a permanent ban(which I don't care about anyways), you will continue as my b..tch...I swear !!

Oya respond, i want to confirm that you're a dunderhead....

DaddyCoool:
If it weren't for your mental illness you'd know that someone has to first scam one person before they can be called a scammer. You'd also know that one ought first have the mental capacity to be able to care b4 saying they don't care!