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donnffd:
One cannot aim to disprove what hasnt been proven in the first place...i thought you knew logic because if you did you would know you cant prove a negative

every claim comes with a burden of proof,

now listen carefully to logic

the statement " you can't prove a negative " is by logic a negative claim lol, so it means u can't prove that u can't prove a negative claim, get it?

johnydon22:
when you say everything, what do you mean by that?

everything possible or everything that can be or are you referring to what is as everything?

and things exist not necessarily everything

everything as in ALL THINGS

johnydon22:
is this the argument you promised? how exactly are you going to convince any atheist with this puerile talks.. proving a negate, christ.

if u don't know that u can prove a negative by now, I think u should drop out of this argument, I don't need slow people sorry, better yet google it!

CatfishBilly:
Because the God described in all holy book is all powerful, all knowing and always present and yet can't heal his children when they call on him despite checking all the items on the list.
That proves that he doesn't exist.

listen, I don't have time for your strawman, this argument is about Theism Vs Atheism not atheism Vs a particular religion, stay focused. God is defined as the creator of the universe and origin of life, prove God doesn't exist

CatfishBilly:
That is what this thread will be filled with.
I've been on his thread before. The guy is a troll.

if u are not ready to debate, seat back and learn, don't come and start showing the new word u learnt from your Atheist group

johnydon22:
read this mesh of nonsense one more time, slowly... and please bring your argument, this thread is already on the second page yet not a single argument from you.

lol, let me let that slide, now, my argument, Do you agree that everything exists? yes or no

CatfishBilly:
God doesn't exist.

prove it!

adepeter26:
Ma sign my presence here. Tosyne2much, this thread go make sense die. Come learn new things OOO.... Kíá kíá

your fee is 20,000 sir

johnydon22:
jesus. there is a difference between belief and knowledge. something certain and sure cannot be said to be belief a belief while a belief on the other hands bears a stinging mark of uncertainty.

pls try to answer my question directly , do u believe it's not a belief? u said u know the universe exists, and it's not a belief and I asked, do u believe it's not a belief? it's a logical question

CatfishBilly:
Ooooh. What happened to the great and intelligent Blogthug? Can't answer just a simple question? And you'll be here shouting intelligence up and down.

now let's debate, God exists!

johnydon22:
there is no two definition of nature that differ or contradict each other in principle or essence so this comparison makes no sense at all.

strawman, I said Describe , please read properly

johnydon22:
there is no two definition of nature that differ or contradict each other in principle or essence so this comparison makes no sense at all.

it makes a lot of sense, remember I specified Capital letter G, the capitalization is important, it denotes a different category of being with ability to create /cause the universe , get it?

johnydon22:
lol i already see where this is going - lets roll with it..

i know the universe exist, i know many things exist - it's not a belief.. so?

do u believe it's not a belief?

CatfishBilly:
What proof is more than a DNA test in a parental conflict?
Pray, do tell.

u are diverting my attention from the purpose of the post, it's called a Red herring

hahn:
Pick one because you cannot logically conclude, even as a theist, that these three gods are all the supreme being

it's like a scientist asking another scientist " which nature exists ? " nature is nature and God is God, though no two scientists will describe Nature same way, so as no two religion will describe God same way , get it?

johnydon22:
no i don't

do u believe nothing exists?

CatfishBilly:
I remember Blogthug.
Who asked if anyone could prove that their mum is not a figment of their imagination, I provided it and he gave one very impish reply.
The guy is a troll. He won't abide by his own rules.

naa u thought u did but u only ended up presupposing something else that hasn't been proven to not be a figment of your imagination, u are not that intelligent yet, unlike Seun that admitted it was impossible , and he was right , I wonder how he is still an Atheist with all that intelligence smh

johnydon22:
i am game ....

OK Do u believe God exists?

hahn:
Which god are you referring to exactly so we can be on the same page

capital G, which I will define as Creator of universe and origin of life, any deity that's defined this way fits to be called God, eg Allah, Brahman, Yahweh

lifecashmoney:
baba no start abeg this sun too hot....


just look my signature

lol, gaining new knowledge ain't a bad idea u know

hopefulLandlord:
I would gladly take you up IF you also adhere by these

1. don't argue from ignorance eg "We don't know, therefore god" aka Argumentum ad ignorantum

2. don't argue for a god devoid of claims aka deistic god because most atheists like me feel there's no need arguing against the existence of one and if it does exist, there's no difference in believing it does or it doesn't as it's more of an indifferent god
If this god doesn't intervene in the universe, he is indistinguishable from a God that just doesn't exist in the first place.

agreed! just God's existence, u game?

if you are open minded and understand these basic fallacies such as :
Strawman
red herring
non sequitor
Ad hominem

then let's get talking, if you don't, go google and understand them, then we can get talking ait? if u won't then don't waste my time

ikbnice:
Now, this is funny. God wasn't created, he existed before time. Now, how did we get to know him? How do u proof dat the concept of God is not just a product of myth and legends as an explanation to some really unexplainable phenomena as at that time?
When do man begin to have the idea of the existence of a God?

the existence of God is innate, there is a scientific study for this, google it! it's part of his grand design , but there is philosophy and logic to give u better understanding of the Creator

Tintinnoty:
Seun, God was not created, his existence is a mystery. Even scientifically, some mystries are beyond human comprehension

that's a poor explanation, go study the Kallam cosmological argument, it will help u make solid logical answers about God's creation, what u stated there cannot convince a anyone

Seun:
It's one thing to give an explanation and a completely different thing for the explanation to actually be true. Science can't tell us what led to the existence of the compressed ball of matter that exploded at the beginning of time, just as your religion can't tell us who or what created God.

if you understand the Kallam Cosmological argument, u will not ask the question " who or what created God" I suggest u read it up

Seun:
Which God? The idea of remote God who went into hiding after starting the big bang can't be disproved, but such a God is irrelevant. If you're talking about an all-knowing God who makes mistakes, a loving God who plans to burn most people alive in fire for all eternity, or an all-powerful God who can't forgive sins unless someone who is his 'son', and also himself, is brutally executed, then one must reject that God.

Great to hear you accept the possibility of a deistic God even though u made a fallacious statement in an attempt to mock the concept of a Deistic God, now why is such a God irrelevant if it caused the Big Bang that brought our universe into existence? and why would you assume a God will be hiding? is God defined as a physical being? if No, how can a God hide?

Frenzy007:
wat sort of irrelevant question r u asking

let me rephrase,

Do u think Atheism is the default position of Christianity or Theism?

Frenzy007:
y cant d Christians give an answer to my question

isit atheism Vs Christianity /islam Or Atheism Vs theism?

Lagusta:
i'm actually not a christian but a very liberal agnostic muslim....

but has science given any explanations on how the big bang came to be?? like what started the big bang??

expect We don't KNOW but it can't be God

Lagusta:
i'm actually not a christian but a very liberal agnostic muslim....

but has science given any explanations on how the big bang came to be?? like what started the big bang??

expect We don't KNOW but it can't be God

Seun:
Science tests have a pretty good explanation about how planets came to exist, in the aftermath of the big bang. If you aren't convinced by their explanation, that would not mean the Bible's account of creation is true. The honest position would be to say that you simply don't know how the earth came into existence. It is ok to say you don't know when you don't know.

if you don't KNOW do u think the idea that God created the Universe is a possibility or you reject it?

ikbnice:
I believe intelligence and religion can never exist side by side.

Einstein, newton etc were atheists ba? think before u make fallacious statements. in fact more theists have won Nobel prizes than atheists .

Sammy07:
H'mmm, atheist full this place oooo.

more like meme atheist, after they read one or two memes from Dawkins, hitchens or Krauss, they think they are automatically intellectually superior, while only few can logic . too many fallacies in their arguments