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Great2017:
Name of doctor and year, Oga Sir.

2017 or so

Greenlandncom:
Define worship.

the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.


And the Bible says we should worship in truth and spirit

What does one show others when he or she bows to an image?

MufasaLion:
Bible was written by humans. Obviously, they could have lied about many things since y'all never existed 1500 years ago.

Enoch was a human too.

Ur point?

dumahi:
But as the priest explained, if God said we shouldn't make images at all, why did he command Moses to make the image of a snake or cherubs? Can you answer? Moreover, you heard him stress that the images are not meant to be worship, so why are you talking about worshiping it?

So that those bitten by the snake will get healed.

So what do Catholics do when they now to the images?

This man should have finished this thing during Buhari tenure.

Once power changes hands, u gotta move carefully

brain54:
I have no words to describe my deep disappointment in Tinubu...

And his government right now!

What if this is bigger than tinubu.
Take note that tinubu recently added dangote to his economic team.

It just feels like dangote cannot intervene cos even dangote himself is not playing for somehow someway

Blaze95:
when you nill or bow down b4 it what 😳 🤔 does it mean.

Ask them o.

Those who worship him must do so in truth and in spirit.


Not in bowing down to images or crucifixes

tete7000:
So first, you agree that God did not exclusively forbade making of imagery, good. Next, no one has ever told you that God said people should worship image, if you arrive at that conclusion, it was taken from your preconceived idea. The priest in question didn't say people should worship images, he said presence of images can spurn people to piety.
Finally, the image of snake itself is an imagery of Christ who would hang on the cross. To Israelites, it was a mere imagery of snake but to a knowledgeable Christian it was more than a snake. Christ said Just as Moses lifted up a snake in the desert, so shall the son of man be lifted. He further said that when I am lifted up, I will draw up all men unto me.
Old testament has no meaning in itself, they are imagery of things to be fulfilled in Christ in the new testament. The scripture is Christo-centric. From the Genesis when God called out the light to the end of Revelation, we see Christ revealed as the way to salvation. So when images are properly utilised, they can draw you to the truth about God. No one I repeat tells you to worship images, but images can help you draw close to God. I leave you with quotes from Psalm 19:

‭Psalms 19:1-6 NIV‬
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun. It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, like a champion rejoicing to run his course. It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other; nothing is deprived of its warmth.

I rest my case. From now on, trouble me no more.

'The priest in question didn't say people should worship images, he said presence of images can spurn people to piety.'


This is a very dangerous line of thought o.
What stupid piety is that thru images?


It's just like people who make certain places or grounds their prayer ground as if God resides there. When Jesus explicitly said in john;:


Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.




God does not need to have sympathy thru an image.


Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
No one comes to the father except through Jesus.

Not thru images or sculptures or Mary but thru Christ.

Ur trying to twist things to suit ur conscience but the Bible is key.

Who would have thought that a day will come when someone like dangote will be thrown around like a nobody.

This is really surprising.

MufasaLion:
There's nothing like mama water or whatever they call it. It's just a fable. However, when on water, always wear safety jacket. No spirits or deity has control over nature.

The book of Enoch explained a series of creatures, including mermaids. However, we are also told more details about these mermaids than ever before. For starters, we are told that mermaids are responsible for the creation of demons. And we're also told about exactly how mermaids were created.

tete7000:
My question is a prelude to answering your question. If you I go ahead to answer your question you already affirmed positive to my question, which is you already agreed God permits the making of an image?

God told Moses to make a snake for them that were bitten so that they can be healed.

He didn't say they should worship it.


That's why he said that if they look at it they will be healed.


He didn't say they should pray to it

Great2017:
Which of the hospitals? For sure, it cannot be in an uncompleted hospital when he was the governor.

Oga I know doctors that worked there.

Great2017:
The truth is he commissioned a building and not a hospital. He then hurriedly migrated some equipment from Stella Obasanjo to the building to deceive gullible people like you. After the political funfair, those equipment were returned.

That is the reason you cannot find any data on doctors, nurses and patients attended to for the new hospital you alleged he built.

Like I said, you can only deceive yourself with half truths.

Sorry O.
I know doctors back then that told me they were working with new machines and equipment

[quote author=tete7000 post=131065886][/quote]I asked a question and u haven't answered

Great2017:
Foolishness in glare display and you are happy about it

U never talk anything

Great2017:
How many doctors and nurses did the hospital he built employ?
Also, how many patients did the new hospital attend to? I need figures.
You can only deceive yourself by reeling out half truth. Facts are sacrosanct.

So I should reel out the number of doctors in a hospital for u?

Has it occurred to u that the rhey already had enough doctors and many their training programs there?

PHIPEX:
Pictures are actually an image, I agree with him. The intent of the command is worshipping an image. If the instruction is simply "do not make an image" then the whole world is guilty because we all snap pictures, 3D images, print posters and watch televisions. These are all images.

His example is also apt, why did God tell Moses to mould a snake, which Jesus himself referenced as an example of how He will be lifted up for all men to believe? Will Jesus reference idolatry as himself?

The snake Moses moulded.... Was it to be worshipped?

The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live."

mctech:
Politicians are a shameless lot. They can roll on the ground and lick your boots just to get what they want.

After that you become an enemy.

Civil servants and private business owners are shameless lots too.

They are equally as corrupt as politicians.
Cheating people everyday.

Great2017:
How did he transform the health and the education sectors? I need figures.

He built a new general Hospital and augmented the existing ones.
He renovated many schools.

Great2017:
And yet the City is still flooded after your alleged transformation by him. Looters are only praised by fellow looters.

He transformed the health, education sector too.

Oya counter

Expanse2020:
When it's happening to you I hope you judge it like this too
That all

What will I be doing at a protest that started because of Yahoo Yahoo boys?

papyjaypaul:
Deputy Governor bowing to Senator

... Who was once a governor.


Are u happy now

Creamypie:
Comrade oshiomole is the best governor of Edo state

I agree.
Dude literally transformed be in city frm a crater filled/flooded state to a much better sight to behold.

Fair.
Many people have formed the habit of using the church as a place of urgent friendly meeting. Gisting and gossiping after church is over and loitering around.

Expanse2020:
Are you saying nobody die in those two shootout..
Your bigotry is disgusting..
If just can justify that two scenes like that..
Have you hear the news lately the dealth troll of the Kenyans who died for the protests.
Can rubber bullets kill people of all that statics..

And when federal government was not involved in lekki shout out... tell us who killed those people

Don't be ignorant.
Ur talking about something being fired like a catapult.
Rubber bullets can maim, injure, kill, fracture etc. Depends on body parts hit.

But the fact remains that they are not real bullets or that real bullets were not used.

I'll say it again, bring proof that federal government ordered the shooting of protesters at lekki gate.

Did people die? Yes.
Was it live bullets? Probably.
Who was behind it?

I don't know. No one knows.


Let's separate facts from emotions

Gboss247:
Have you ever asked yourself why NNPCL is the sole importer of petrol?

That question also begs the question;
Have u ever thought about dangote wanting to be the sole seller of petrol?

RealLordZeus:
Oct 7 2020, the FG allegedly asked for protesters to be shot at Lekki Tollgate , we all heaped curses on Buhari for being a failed leader and dictator, it was not because the protesters are Muslim and difficult to contain


In Kenya, the President call protests "Treason" and live bullets were used by policemen to kill ppl.. the protesters are not Muslims and difficult to contain

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/25/africa/kenya-protests-tax-rises-intl/index.html

Ur wrong.

There is no proof that the federal government was involved or complicit in the lekki shootings.

And Kenyan police used rubber bullets.
Not live bullets.

https://www.channelstv.com/2024/06/27/kenya-police-fire-rubber-bullets-tear-gas-at-protesters-after-ruto-urges-talks/amp/

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/104033240

Remman:
I've been to Rangpur, Dhaka and Bengal. Nice people? Yes! But their angry side is never forgiven.

Confidential: I offended a guy who didn't forgive me till i left, not racism related. I also had hostile encounters with two of their ladies from two different cities and their anger issues were non-forgiven. One threatened with her brother inlaw who leads a gang.

But i was somewhat untouchable because we were on a charity program (part of Mason elite program we do in our lodge every year) that took me to different parts of Asia, Africa, Europe, and South America. I stopped the trip in 2020 during the pandemic era. Although we've commenced the program in 2022, I no longer volunteer for the trip for it makes one spend a lot aside the benefitual rituals we encounter with other members of the international brotherhood and luxury cares, the trips were stressful.

Pappy Mason
Fat cat
E money bags

RealLordZeus:
I'm trying to explain why protest is not synonymous to a specific religion country

Yes it not.

But he was trying to explain the reason why Bangladesh is taking a hard stance with the shoot on sight and that's because, frm his inference, the Muslim citizens there can be very difficult to contain

RealLordZeus:
You are a religion extremist too...
Kenyans protest over increased tax, the government responded with some measures before it later submit, there wasn't a religious undertone.

Bangladesh are protesting over lopsided civil servants appointment, their government responded with brutality, and you came into a conclusion that Muslims are bad

If there's a shooting in the west especially US, and the shooter is a Christian, it will be attributed to mental issues

If there is a stabbing in France, and the culprit is a Muslim, it will be a case of Islamic terrorism.

I said this before, Thomas Matthew Cook, the shooter of Fmr President Trump, had it been, the name is Muslim related, it will be a case of Islamic Terrorism

Am confused. Is Kenya a Muslim country?

Buy me newly phone
Buy me land.

Am coming to ur place. Pls send me transport money.

Even 50 cent recognize the real on

He sang 'many men's with a picture of Trump after the shooting


https://m.youtube.com/shorts/UbBgxTp2e48