European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 1:44pm On Sep 13, 2021 |
donjazet: I didn't want to say this on Saturday because I wanted to really enjoy our victory. But it has to be said that it didn't sit right with me seeing that 100ft banner of mason mount in the stands which the club unfurled. Such banners are unfurled for players who have reached a certain status with the club (legendary), but it seems that a section or certain individuals within the club are desperate to make mason mount the face of Chelsea football club and that is my grouse. Does he really deserve such an honor YET? What has he done separately from the rest of the players?? On what ground is he being singled out as special?? Why elevate him above the rest.
Is it because he is an academy player?? Then what about Reece James, Hudson odoi, Andreas Christensen. Some of who were arguably more instrumental to the club than him. Why does it always have to be the local white boy that is singled out and not the rest? Why didn't they make it like "a class of 2015" or something??
Is it his performance?? Lol let's not even go there. His stats for the club so far are very mediocre for an attacker of a big club. I don't actually fault him here. I believe he is developing and as such still has time to improve and start giving us at least a 30 Goals\assists season. But that's the thing, he isn't there yet. So why single him out.
You guys should get this, it's okay for our players to be acknowledged and appreciated but unfurling a 100ft banner goes beyond this. It's a whole different level. It's usually done as a cementing of legendary status. It's something that is done for a very few players and I do not believe that Mason mount deserves that honor yet.
If our captain of this modern era, Cesar Azpilicueta who got to be who he is and where he is by virtue of hardwork, consistency, durability and versatility hasn't got his own banner, then why mason mount? If our own vice captain, jorginho who has just become the European best player (the first for us) and a top 4 balond'or nominee didn't have a banner, then why mason mount? Please note that this is not a complaint of Mason mount or a direct comparison with any other player. I recognize that mount has no control over who plans or unveils his banner. I'm calling out the powers that be who made this move. I believe it's a terrible agenda being peddled by a group who is desperate to sell this player as the face of our club. The ones who award him the player of the year when he is obviously not. The influencers who want to overhype his abilities most especially when he hasn't started living up to it.
Again, I do hope and pray he eventually becomes one of the best in the world in his position. One we can all proudly call our own but he isn't yet which is why these moves are premature. All these could even end up having adverse effects on the player vis a vis an overinflated ego or an overwhelming feeling of self importance and being untouchable, not to talk of potential squad disharmony. Of course, these are purely assumptions but we've seen where these kind of things are only catalysts for problems. I agree with most of your write up, if not all of it. I wasn't so surprised though; we know how much love locals tend to have for the academy graduates, and Mount - for some reasons, seems to be the unofficial 'face of the academy', especially that his set. I too would've preferred it if it was a banner of the academy graduates that played key roles in the CL success, it would make more sense to show appreciation for the young guns that made it from Cobham to lead the club to European glory, considering how many failed to make it. And true true, no one deserves a banner more than Mr Reliable. Like I said though l, I'm not surprised. Not much of a big deal to me. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 12:26pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
MercylessMercy: Where is Bruno performance on the biggest stage?
Havertz is greater than KDB and Bruno plus Sancho combined.
I met the rules here The rules, for anyone wondering
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 7:37pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Havertz10: fenceplaining Because I am not willing to judge him after a bad 45 mins? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 7:31pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Havertz10: you get serious problem  Run me the diagnosis |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 7:29pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Skimpledawg: Lmao...
Abeg who said that thing I don forget Whoever tok am, abeg apostle dey find you  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 7:28pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Anyways, the scoreline wasn't an accurate reflection of proceedings. This game was very uncomfortable, till it became clear we would walk away with the three points in the bag.
Kudos to Kovacic, Mendy, Lukaku and Silva. The four top performers. Chalobah was also good, albeit his passing was a bit off today.
Tough debut for Saul, but doesn't make him a bad player. His problem was lack of sharpness - not saying he isn't match fit, but he was a tad too lethargic in dangerous situations. Will get better with time. If he doesn't, no wahala. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 7:24pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Segedinho: They said.
Azpi is another wan bisaka Pesin really talk am o  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 7:22pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
There's levels to this shit.
Two chances, two goals
Big Rom baby |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 6:54pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Ziyech funny sha  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 6:37pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Kovacic!!!!!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 6:23pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
donstan18: Ah swear!!
Saul is not just an escort, he’s a bad passer. He's not a bad passer. This game is just off. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 6:20pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Man, I'm not liking this pressure. At all. Saul has been too sloppy. Certainly won't judge him from this opening 45.
Kudos to odogwu Mendy and Mazi Silva. Theeve been incredible.
Nova too has had a few sloppy moments, but he's been the better of the midfield two.
The front three is struggling a bit. It's just not happening for them, asides that one moment involving Lukaku which led to the goal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 5:54pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Saul needs to be sharper. Looks like he's good a good touch about him.
Nice one El Monstro. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 5:46pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Luk how he sat that defender dkwn  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 5:46pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
When it comes to dribbling CMs, Kovacic is not your mate |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 4:40pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Exonerate1: 50mil for a left back who can't start ahead of alonso in 2021 Would've been a different story if Chilly didn't to the Euros to waste his time. Alonso had a window of opportunity, and grabbed his opportunity with both hands. Besides, this isn't LB but LWB, where Alonso is one of the best in the world. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 4:38pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Saul in the building!! CHO please do something with this opportunity. Na beg I dey beg you. Kai Kai, play those one time passes make dem for no drag you today  Anyways the Wizard is starting, so I am anticipating better service to Big ROM. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 3:22pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Just came online to see that my guy Gallagher had a fabulous outing once again...
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 11:34am On Sep 11, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 8:13pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
drisham: Is this lad still with us ?? Yeah. On loan at Southampton. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 4:41pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
swiz123: Nobody is sparing more than 10 words for Mount who had time to square the ball for Havertz but intentionally chose to be selfish.
Peeps here are funny The post that started this round of arguments was about Kai and Kai alone. You fit post Mount own make e own round of dragging start.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 11:13am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Another thing uncle Jude: perhaps your anger should be directed at Tuchel, who keeps starting Mount. He sees what we all see - and more - and surely he knows what's best for his team I won't buy any bulls**t of the board or the media forcing him to play Mount cos if it backfires, it all falls back on him and he will suffer the consequences.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 11:07am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Havertz10: using political ambiguity to stand on a fence
I don't pick side, I pick the only side, the only true path, my own is follow what works and i always update my views and values to be rationally adaptive to any unexpected changes
If the goal is Chelsea progression, mount is a huge hindrance currently, this isnt a trival matter to me particularly after reasoning all the paths
I rather look like a fool today for being right and be called names than sing kumbaya with herd of sheep You see Mount as a hindrance to Chelsea's progress, but I don't. You believe he's a bang average, blind chicken and will remain so, but I believe he's an exciting young player who, despite his flaws, has potential and can/will improve. In the same vein, the same way we both believe Havertz will come good at Chelsea, is the sake way some others believe he will flop or will not meet up to expectations. Why they feel so could be due to observations or sentiments, I don't know. What I do know is my opinion isn't based on sentiments or hinged on herd mentality. Like I said, I like both and that is not a crime. You're pretty vocal of how high you rate yourself and that's cool, but it doesn't mean contrary opinions are borne out of sentiment, just because yours is based on rational thinking. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 10:24am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Havertz10: I don't have time to dig up the gif and post it here but so many things happened in that instance that made that particular play difficult, particularly the way the ball was played to him, while you can look at a single frame and assume that the pass was available, if you watch the clip, you will see that the window of opportunity closed before he could redirect the ball, we had this argument here weeks ago, havertz is capable of making that pass once and he should have done that but I can understand why he didn't, hopefully it doesn't repeat itself or at the very least incidents like that are rare
Mount does this regularly, no one picks offense, havertz makes one bad final 3rd decision and you people are out with your pitch forks especially that blueman always acting like someone with neutral perspective on issues, I intentionally ignored his mention  So I come out with my pitchfork when Havertz makes a bad decision, and I act neutral? Also, I don't criticise mount when he makes mistakes? For your info chief, I criticise both, I praise both and I defend both. Heck, I've been defending Havertz since he was signed, when folks were already making hasty predictions before he even kicked a ball, or when they were coming for him while he struggled early on. I criticise and praise both, cos I like them both. And I don't act neutral on issues o  I don't choose sides when I don't think it's necessary or ideal, and there's nothing wrong with that. You don't always have to pick sides. Not everything is a competition, and as far as I'm concerned, Mount and Havertz are as young duo who can both flourish for the club I support, not a duo competing against each other. I Stan both, and I Stan none  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 10:00am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Anyways happy birthday to Armando Broja. Dude has had a fantastic season thus far.
Big things to come.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 9:56am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Havertz10: Look at it this way was his opening statement
He then proceeds to convolute the subject more for the person that ask the question
Mixing up sense and nonsense like a mallam with false sense of enlightenment Why not correct him where you feel appropriate, or better still answer the question yourself instead of making such snide remarks. People are wonderful sha  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 9:54am On Sep 10, 2021 |
hensben: And this is news? When will Havertz start giving lukaku one time pass like the one he gave muller during euro. Don't take life too seriously chief. No be only news dem dey post here. Don't worry, he will soon start giving Lukaku one time pass, make you for calm down  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 5:48am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Werner scaring the soul outta Havertz  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 12:38pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 11:52am On Sep 09, 2021 |
BlueRayDick: I sometimes do wonder what kind of pep talk/team talk teams like San Marino, Faroe Islands, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, etc.... have before a match, at half time and at full time....especially when they are playing teams like England, Germany, Spain etc
I mean do their coaches tell them stuff like: "If u dream it u can achieve it "....."Yes we can!"....etc?  "Go out there and have fun." |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 8:42am On Sep 09, 2021 |
Pulisic injured again. My tired is tired  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueMann: 8:30am On Sep 09, 2021 |
Havertz10: Kai Havertz for Germany national team:
- 19 games - 15 starts - 5 goals - 10 assists - G/A every 65 minutes Yes please. All I need from King Kai is for him to bring this kinda form to the Bridge. And I'm confident it's just a matter of time |