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Ibunkun1:
How's it meant to work abeg? It doesn't make sense

I really don't know. Guess it involves most of the elite clubs from various top leagues breaking out to form their own "Super League", but I don't know the logistics.

What I know is that I hardly see fans of these top clubs supporting the idea. Many people feel it will kill football as we know it.

OJURONGBE1:
My antagonizing Kai Havertz no be today, it all started when rumours linked us with him.
I took my time to watch his game against inter Milan over 2legs & one repeated bundesliga match and saw nothing spectacular about him.
Same with few YouTube videos i watched and concluded that, this guy's strength lies in playing in the box 18 as against what he was touted for (AMF, RWG).
If you remember, i asked ;if we were getting a Fabregas/KDB/Fernandez kinda player but you lots kept ranting telling me he's 4players in 1.
Reason, I took my time to watch him was because a certain Leon Bailey, who was touted to high heavens by this same Bayern Leverkusen and the bundesliga media, as one of the most talked about rising stars in Europe but has failed to live up to the high expectations.

My question is , if we sign a goal poacher next season, what role will Kai Havertz play?
Because we can't continue playing a false9, a position he has manage to impress.

Interesting question sir, cos I've thought about it as well. First, I think most agree that Tuchel will eventually shift to a back four, since the 3-4-3 mainly seems like a stop gap.

He may like to use a 4-3-3 so assuming we sign a striker, then Havertz would have to cope with playing as one of the double 8s, although that isn't really his favored position. Or it could be a 4-2-3-1, meaning he and Mount may shuffle between that no.10 role.

TBH it's hard to call cos TT is very tactically dynamic - it's hard to tell what he'll do. Make we dey look sha.

Ibunkun1:
Who did the survey abeg

Half of Chelsea Fans Association Survey board, Nairaland Chapter.

Seems the proposed European Super League is trending.

Artificial, Fake



"He will never be loved universally..."

Prophet, I see ya

End time prophet

Havertz10:
half of Chelsea fans hate mount


He is artificial, fake and doesn't have talent


He is always acting for the camera

Even people that aren't Chelsea fans hate him, there are more than 2000 pages on twitter that attack him and his sentimental supporters

Mount will never be universally loved by Chelsea fans, the day he starts to decline, you will see the hate I'm talking about, mount can have a career ending injury and I won't even bat an eye lid

Half of Chelsea fans ni As per a census conducted by whom?

Oshey, Chairman, Half of Chelsea fans association

E say acting for the camera...lmao

OVA200:
I hate to mediate but guy you are becoming something else, you need to slow down.

Lolz. Don't bother. It's a fruitless endeavour.

raumdeuter:
So they even took this disaster out at the crunch moment
Patrickmuf you didn't include that in your match report

He was substituted due to injury, after a fantastic performance that helped destroy City's quadruple bid.

NewDelhi:
Lol someone that was still reacting to the pain of his injury nahim you say dey pray.

E dey pray jare

Wetin dey play for Bergamo? Atalanta and Juve combined after 81mins; 23 shots, only one on target

swiz123:
Look at how you lots undermine Jorginho's efforts... How did Jorginho create the space? Did he shove players aside to create it? Was it not his pass that beat Zanusi? Did Mount dribble Zanusi?...

Creds to Jorginho for that pass. It was precise and perfectly weighted. But let's not undermine what Mount did. The spatial awareness, and the sharpness of the turn, which gave the nearby players zero chance of closing him down.

Other players might have decided to take a touch, but the sharpness of the turn ensured that Pepe, or the other defender who was by his left when he received the pass, had no chance of catching up with him, which in turn meant less pressure when making the shot, which in turn increased his chances of making the shot.

Look at the body language of the other defender. For a moment, he attempted to get close to Mount, but realized quickly that it would've been a fruitless endeavour.

It was a subtle but clever skill which was brilliantly executed.

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swiz123:
Most people here don't think Havertz will improve. They see no quality in him. In fact, they strongly don't want him to improve. They hate him so much that they can't admit that he playing better than he did under Lampard.

If Mount can improve which I pray he does, why can't Havertz too improve. They are both young players.

I've always clamoured for Havertz to be given time to improve. I don't think I've ever referred to him as a 'flop' sef.

I too believe he will come good.

User09:
Abraham was injured and came back at very advanced stages in most of our competitions. TT says he'ld rather not lose the synergy we've built given how we've been gettin results in his absence

To be fair, I dont think TT rates him - 1, he's not the type of forward he likes ala a traditional 9.

2 - Abraham also gives me the vibe of someone who thinks he's arrived and isnt trying to do other things required of him. I dont get the feeling that he's doing what Tuchel asks of him. He's the only player who's been substituted twice at half time - that says something.

As for Mount - I agree he's a proper lad, constantly working hard and saying the right things; I just dont think he' elite level yet. Also, The hype is farcical and does not meet reality. Really galling that he cant even get criticized without people getting sensitive about the subject

To be honest he would have to deal with all the leftover talk from Lamps just as Jorginho did and still doing with Sarri

Hmmm...that your second highlighted point concerning Abraham seems to be a sentiment shared by many. Some have given the example of Chilwell, who was on the fringes at some point, but has worked his way back into the starting XI. Guess Abraham needs to do a lot more.

I just feel for the guy, considering he's somehow still our top scorer.

The vayolenz on the other side is unbelievable.

Lordemperoris100:
I doubt but let's count it Sha.

1 for Abraham vs Newcastle

1. For Mount

1. for Pulsic vs Leeds

1 for Kai Havertz vs Southampton

1 for Ziyech vs Atletico Madrid

1 for Ziyech vs Man City

1 for Kai Havertz vs Morecambe

1 for Mount vs West Brom

1 for Pulsic or Ziyech vs Kranodar

this is about 9, those u remembered and watched. he has 12 assisted minus penalties.

Check Transfermarkt. He is listed as having 10 goals and 12 assists.

Look at the matches in detail. You would see that penalties won were counted as assists.

For example: Against Sheffield (we won 2-1), he is listed as having two assists. But one of the goals was scored by Jorginho from the spot. Werner won the penalty after being fouled by Ramsdale. But it was counted as an assist. Same thing against Brighton (3-1) and Spurs (1-0).

The site lists him as having 9 PL assists and 12 in total. But check the official PL site, and they listed Werner as having 6 assists, cos they don't take into account assists by virtue of penalties won.

He's won seven penalties. I think three were converted by Jorginho, two were missed by Jorginho while he scored and misses one himself.

User09:
Is there a single player who has this experience?

TT likes his front 3 counter pressing - an ability Mason is quite good at. In the long term however, He'll have to do more in the forward lines and that's when his true levels will start to show.

We've been down this road before

Abraham na
At least Giroud is seeing small small minutes. Abraham just kak for one side.

And you're right about Mason needing to do more in the forward lines. Even the staunchest Mount fan would tell you he does need to improve his judgement and passing in the final third. I know I've said it before. It's not like we're making him out to be prime Lampard or KDB or something like that.

But he can, and will improve. Compare last season and this season, you'll see his improving all round. He's got the right attitude and a fantastic manager, which are ideal for his development.

And for God sakes, it's unfair to write him off as talentless or possessing zero creativity. He needs to work on it, but at least he's got the raw material (talent) to work on.

Sarri's son.

Lampard's son.

Tuchel's boys.

Yes! Yes! The vayolence I crave!

KingAlabi:
You too like vayolence

Baba no blame me. See my Alma Mater

Havertz10:
66 mins captain


Havertz was captain of a team in German first division at 20

You're laughable at this point. No offense sir.

User09:
Penalties won are not counted as assist. Only on FPL

Maybe not officially. But those penalties he won that were converted by Jorginho ARE among the 12 assists he has garnered this season.

You can do your research and see for yourself.

swiz123:
Don't put Lampfraud and Tuchel in the same sentence. Lampard never subbed Mount off even when it was obvious that he was having a bad day. Mount played all matches like he was his demi-god; little surprise we were knocked out of the Carabao, languishing in 8th position and looking hopeless to face Atletico.

Mount plays better now Knowing that he has serious competitions in the team. Something which was alien to him during Lampfraud's reign. All players know they have competitions which makes them strive to improve. That is the Tuchel's effect.

But Tuchel DOES play him, and he plays him regularly. Some of you predicted that Tuchel's arrival would mark the beginning of the end of Mount at Chelsea, but alas, he continues to play regularly, and has even raised his game. What's more, Tuchel made him captain in an FA cup QF game, despite there being more senior players in the pitch.

Does than not prove that Tuchel rates him? If he truly were talentless and brainless, would TT not have frozen him out of the squad? Isn't it clear that TT sees his quality?

Is that not the bone of contention?

Hazard will indeed be fit for the reunion.

Violence is brewing...

Silva saying a prayer when City were pressing in the final moments of the game yesterday.

donstan18:
Jude it’ll be a welcome development for us to go that “Dragging” route.

Them no even born you well to repeat this rubbish you just did now.

Another round of vayolence this morning?

Havertz10:
mount didn't do anything there

It was the speed of the ball that beat the man

Mad oooo

Havertz10:
you think you know more than entire board rooms, staff, coaches and scouts

And you know more than Lampard, Southgate and Tuchel abi

Havertz10:
doing it with the aim to accomplish something is different from doing it aimlessly to feed sentimental buffoons


If havertz scored that, goal of the season, is any of mounts own significant?

So when Mount left Sanusi on his backside and scored this clever goal which proved to be vital to us qualifying for the semis, he was doing it aimlessly to feed sentimental buffoons abi?



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FergieRaww:
By the time we're done taking that your nonsense team to the cleaners in semis, you'll have more than Messi and CR7 to bother about mtcheww...

Bring it on biatchhhh!!

Unlimited22:
That's what I'm saying. 10 g 12 a 7 penalties.

Oh, okay. Thought you were disagreeing with my assertion.

Unlimited22:
No.

So he has like 12 direct assists, plus seven goals which were scored via penalties won?

Don't forget that not all the penalties he won were converted.

Make I go check sha.


Modified: I checked and I'm correct. Its 22G/A. Seven penalties won is another stat on it's own.