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PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu: Lawyer Ejiofor Drops Cryptic Message “ You Reap What You Sow’’ by bobestman(m): 7:01pm On Feb 15, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
You are still lacking in emotional intelligence, same as Kanu. Tinubu is already ruling as the president and has already achieved his life ambitions even if he does not return in 2027. We know everywhere is corrupt in Nigeria including the Igbos, Yorubas, Hausas, and Kanu himself who had been cashing out with the Biafra bulshite so spare me the high moral grandstanding.

Trump is a criminal who was duly convicted by a jury of his peers so I never take him seriously. Trump is a criminal who used Trump University to scam innocent people and was forced to pay back after being convicted in a court of law. Trump is also an adjudicated rapist and I have little regard for people like Don the Con. In fact, I have more respect for Tinubu. I know you like to worship criminals like Trump.
You are the one very far from the truth. Emilokan has achieved nothing. He is stealing from the poor to enrich the rich. He is a total failure who steal from the masses via tax when his fellow politicians are their

If you call Trump a criminal what of your druglord and certificate criminal. Everything about him is questionable. He is far worst than Trump. If Trump was truly a criminal, the Demoncrats will have done something to bring him down before the election but he contested and win. So they have nothing against him. But Emilokan is a criminal well known by all and still bought the Judiciary and all to support him. That can't happen in America. If they truly have something against him they would have brought him down
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu: Lawyer Ejiofor Drops Cryptic Message “ You Reap What You Sow’’ by bobestman(m): 6:37pm On Feb 15, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Right now, what Kanu needs is someone who can manipulated or bow to Tinubu to enable the release of Kanu.
You can only fight from the outside and not inside a detention facility. Forget all these high emotions and grandstanding, it acheives nothing.
Lol it's like you know nothing about the powers that rule your country. Their are powers that rule without and those who rule within. Your govts are just puppets to them that they use to do their biddings.

Tinubu is desperate to rule and it can't be without Northerners help. One of the agreements they entered with him is to keep MNK their forever. If he go against them he will lose their support. If Tinubu can do that he will get the support of few Igbos. Will they help him win or or Northerners who got the numbers? Now that is what you should ponder on
But the clowns don't know if anything happens to him they will end the country cos they have nothing against him. That is clear evidence that they killed him. It will not go well at all. Tinubu should grow enough balls to know what is right and do it. Igbos don't beg. Do what you can do and they will know what to do

Forget what? What MNK is doing is exposing your quack judiciary to the world. The world will see and know that you have nothing against him. Ppl like Trump won't agree with that at all. So if anything happen to him they are already agreeing that the country should no longer be one
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu: Lawyer Ejiofor Drops Cryptic Message “ You Reap What You Sow’’ by bobestman(m): 6:16pm On Feb 15, 2025
lordwoz:
what kind of saying is this? So no other person from other tribe can fix this country?
Lol am not you
That is how it was written
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu: Lawyer Ejiofor Drops Cryptic Message “ You Reap What You Sow’’ by bobestman(m): 2:40pm On Feb 13, 2025
beerfraud:
Peter Obi is never a right person
He might not be but he have a plan to fix the country by cutting costs and reducing politicians allowances. He made this clear before the election. The reason they ganged up against him. He has got a plan but those who rule your country don't want him cos he will put a stop to a lot of things for them

He is strong politically but spiritually I don't know cos to withstand the evil powers who rule this country and to make the country work again, you must be spiritually strong
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu: Lawyer Ejiofor Drops Cryptic Message “ You Reap What You Sow’’ by bobestman(m): 2:22pm On Feb 13, 2025
Kobicove:
So you think even if an Igbo man becomes president today he will just wave his magic wand and automatically Nigeria will turn to an Elodorado where they will start selling a bag of rice N5K and the price of petrol will reduce to N1.50 per liter? undecided
Lol not just an Igbo man but a righteous Igbo man who stand on truth and laws of life. Someone like Gaddafi. Such can never be shaken unless you kill them. Kanu might have done some wrongs but you can't deny the fact that all he wants is for the good of his ppl. When he talked and the govt refused to act. They allow Fulanis to kill rape their women and take over their land. The refusal of the govt to act on that issue made him form an army only to protect their land. Hehehe many things happening in their land are not from his boys but from other group that scatter the whole thing.

Apart from all these, they are the direct seeds of the soil. The origin and the heir. Spiritually it was given to them to turn things around but many don't know. Those who know like many of your politicians do whatever they can to turn it against them.
Christianity EtcRe: After Death: What Happens? Where Will You Be? by bobestman(m): 2:02pm On Feb 13, 2025
Uwa bu ulo akwukwo - Life is a school system. You are only here cos you keep failing in all your incarnations. You are here cos you failed in your past life. You are here to correct the mistakes of your past life. As you fail you become "Born Again", Reborn to continue your lesson untill you pass. When you pass then you qualify to ascend into the higher realm churchians call Heaven. In heaven you are taught and schooled about many things. You become and elder and ancend to earth anytime you are sent here to correct many who are lost in this ignorant religious system. You become an ascended master when you return here. Mind when you exceed the numbers of time given to pass and still failed, you aren't coming back again. Such ppl when they become angry for not giving another chance they become evil - the evil and wicked spirits you know

The Churchians are highly ignorant on this issue. They think heaven is a place that anyone who believes in what they don't know will go to. The Christ who is an ascended great master even taught them that heaven is on earth. Only a Few ppl who passed their lessons here are privileged to enter. To enter you must ascend with a glorious body - you will be taken up like Christ, Elijah and Enoch. They ascended bodily. This is what the Churchians ignorantly call rapture. They claim you will go to heaven if you die lol. The true God is a God of the living not dead. The dead can't see him. The dead go to their various realms until the season of their incarnations. To support this with the bible, if you read somewhere in Revelation 9 you will see where some righteous dead ppl were asking God to avenge them of those who killed them on earth. This is tells you that they are not in heaven and after they have been restored they will return to earth.
Dead ppl remain on their realms good or bad not heaven.
If you pass your exams here you will ascend like Christ and others. Death can't hold you again. You become a master who comes and go. Religion is full of many errors and can't help one on their mission on earth. This is why you need to know the true God yourself. Their is a spirit, a God within you that can teach everything you seek cos all you have in religions are full of errors
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu: Lawyer Ejiofor Drops Cryptic Message “ You Reap What You Sow’’ by bobestman(m): 9:44am On Feb 13, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I said it at the beginning for him to hire lawyers Like Afe Babalola who has political clouts, IPOD youths abused me time.
Ejimakor cannot win a case against a secondary school graduate.

Na SW get the best lawyers for the whole Nigeria.
You be Igbo with Yoruba mentality. SW lawyers that easily bow for Tinubu. They will easily buy him to work for their favour. A lion only moves with his likes

If they can kill him let them kill him. A true Igbo blood who believes in truth and justice fear no one. They rather die for that truth they believe in than to play by the evil rules of the this supporter of APC govt. They hate corruption and speak out whenever they see such. Do you even know that only Igbo man who believes in truth and justice and hate corruption can fix this nation? This is why they always gang up against such Igbo men. They play. You are Igbo but speak like Yoruba. Every Yoruba politicians today must bow to Tinubu whether they like it or not. If they refuse he will use his dogs and before you know it they will start singing for him.
CelebritiesRe: VeryDarkMan Accuses Nedu Wazobia Of Being A Sexual Predator (Video) by bobestman(m): 8:52am On Feb 12, 2025
Leave two ashawo matter. Na only a fool they put mouth when two ppl wey don see their
nude body dey fight
Discuss Tinubu, the thieves we have as politicians, corrupt judges and many more. You no dey feel the shege?

Mumu man
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by bobestman(m): 5:06pm On Jan 16, 2025
He was not a Jew cos he called them synagogues of Satan - Rev 3:9;2:9. The impostors who took over the land after the original Hebrews of the land were sacked in 2Kings 17 called themselves Jews. They were not the true bloodline of Hebrews but impostors who began to learn the Hebrew Ways and laws. This is why they found it hard to understand his teachings which is quite different from the Jewish laws. He came to Restore the original Hebrews not Jewish Ways and laws which was lost a long time ago. Those he even came to seek were no longer their when he came but impostors who find it hard to understand the original Ways. This why they conspired with the Romans to kill him. The Jews were the ones who gave him up for the Romans to kill and thus the original ones who murdered him. So he is not a Jew. They began to call his ppl Jews but he made it known to all that the Jews were synagogues of Satan. Those he truly came to seek he called them lost or dispersed tribe of Israel. They were the true bloodline he sought. Jews and Romans conspired to create another story
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He is also not a Christian cos his teachings is far above Jewish and Christianity. Christians don't follow the laws and Jews only taught a photocopy of the laws. He is the law and came to teach them what was truly lost in it. That which they fail to know. His really followers were only assumed to be Christians. They were not and the Romans capitalize on that to create the religion.

Let me pause
Christianity EtcRe: Was Owerri The Accurate Birth Place Of Jesus? by bobestman(m): 11:12am On Dec 29, 2024
Broveens42:
It surprises me, you agreed in your last paragraph, for something you want people to be confined in a psychiatric hospital.

Talk about mental illnesses; you could be a victim, though, mild mental cases ain't something to worry about
If you keep giving a dog a bone anytime he backs, he will keep requiring for more
Ignore the clown 🤡
Christianity EtcRe: Was Owerri The Accurate Birth Place Of Jesus? by bobestman(m): 10:46am On Dec 29, 2024
Broveens42:
People don't read and they can accept anything coming from a white man.

Now look at this write-up bellow and tell me if it isn't typical of propaganda..



Null Island is the location at zero degrees latitude and zero degrees longitude (0°N 0°E), i.e., where the prime meridian and the equator intersect. Since there is no landmass located at these coordinates, it is not an actual island. The name is often used in mapping software as a placeholder to help find and correct database entries that have erroneously been assigned the coordinates 0,0. Although "Null Island" started as a joke within the geospatial community, it has become a useful means of addressing a recurring issue in geographic information science.
Lol their are many of such if you search on Google where the center of the earth is located. The Solar wizards who Govern the Ment/Govern your mental/Government know the truth. They twisted many things to keep governing peoples Ment and prevent them from knowing the truth. They control thru Politics, Religion, Science, EntertainMent (they entertain your Ment with lies to keep you from waking up, Media ( false history and fake News). They control all. In some of their movies they reveal some things but codedly talk about us and our history Many of their movies are actually talking about us. Black panther is an ancient/African history. If your eyes are open, if you watch your Chi will help you understand
Christianity EtcRe: Was Owerri The Accurate Birth Place Of Jesus? by bobestman(m):
Broveens42:
It's very evident something is being hidden..

I'm making a research on something...

Google "the point where Longitude 0° meets with latitude 0°" : It doesn't make any sense and looks suspicious as being reduced to an unknown location in the Atlantic ocean.

That location should be around the enugu portharcourt express way, or specifically at Uturu and is supposed to represent the origin of mankind.

This is why it will be a 'surprising miracle' to re-establish a new nation in eastern Nigeria
The only place with Longitude and Latitude 0 which signify the center of the earth is only around Igbo land. Uturu precisely. The center of the earth is the only root gods can only use to come down to the earth or go back. In many ancient books, the origin sees gods coming down to earth to explore it. The first to create that root to earth and the first to land on earth is the Mother. According Igbo creation story and Egyptian Doad about creation, the Father and the Mother existed above. The father was building a beautiful planet (full of water) which is the earth. The mother went to peek and it led to a great explosion or bang - this is what science call the Big Bang. Why did it happen? The mother's element was Fire (Eke) and the eatg she went to peek was water and land, it is like helium coming in contact with hydrogen aka hydrogen bomb which led to the blast

She been fire dried up most of the water on earth when she was sucked down creating a dry land and a root thru which gods can descend to earth. The place she fell is same as as the Oshimili Rivers - A River many don't know the deep secrets. This is why she is called Mother earth or Ala in Igbo. Her landing created the Earth. Earth in Igbo cosmology is Afor. Igbo call themselves Nwa-Afor Igbo. Children of the earth. Direct seeds of the Mother which makes them the originals, the first ppl of the earth

Their is a cave in Uturu called "Ebe Is ume" meaning where the first man took his first breath
In the bible they talked about Bethel a hill where ppl encounter God. Bethel is same as Ugwu Ele (The Hill of God) in Uturu.
Christianity EtcRe: How Do We Confront Religion? by bobestman(m): 1:19pm On Dec 28, 2024

sonmvayina:
Why una dey come out now..

Leave only me for junction...

This is what I have been singing since I joined this forum. They look at me like I don't know what I was saying.
I am gland people are realizing and waking up...we will surely get there...we sure will...
Bro I too busy to they argue with some kind of ppl here. They go wan make you a fool like them if you begin arguing with them. They are in Ignorance but claim to know. Leave them soon the scales will start falling off. No much time to waste
Christianity EtcRe: Was Owerri The Accurate Birth Place Of Jesus? by bobestman(m): 1:09pm On Dec 28, 2024
Sonmvayina do you still doubt?
Christianity EtcRe: Was Owerri The Accurate Birth Place Of Jesus? by bobestman(m): 1:06pm On Dec 28, 2024
Igbo language is pure Hebrew. Aramaic and others are Paleo. Igbos are the original Hebrews by bloodline
Christianity EtcRe: Was Owerri The Accurate Birth Place Of Jesus? by bobestman(m): 1:02pm On Dec 28, 2024
You may doubt but can't doubt the similarities in the names. I have been saying some of these things since but many don't believe. A time will come for better understanding. The man is not an ordinary man cos a friend has a encounter. He was given these things to reveal. Why do many of the names have better meaning in Igbo? They called him Emmanuel which has no good meaning in all languages but in Igbo it has better meaning. Manu means man and Ele is the ancient name of God. In other words Ele/Elu means heaven. Meaning Man of God or God Man and also man from above. He said he came from above. The Messiah you called him also means Mesie ala (Repairer or restorer of the land - Acts 1:6). He is the one to Restore the land which is one of his missions but he told his disciples to tarry till the right time since it is not possible that era. That is after his resurrection.

Many things that happened in that land was destroyed by the whites and recreated far North. So wehen many tell you, you will not believe cos you don't see evidence. When they tell you they are the original Hebrews you will start laughing in Ignorance. You don't know history may be destroyed but their are ppl that their history lived in them. Their are more like this man. You guys will hear sth one day. This is why they are hated by many of you. You don't want them to rule cos the rightful heir to restore the land is one of their sons. Soon you guys hear more and great things that will happen in that land
Christianity EtcRe: How Do We Confront Religion? by bobestman(m): 11:38am On Dec 28, 2024
Man wasn't created to be religious but spiritual. The ancients spoke or communed with God and gods. In the bible men spoke to God and vice versa
Man then fell into a state of Amnesia, Ignorance or forgetfulness and then find it difficult to commune and get answers from God. God then often choose someone to talk to the ppl. Some of those God men in pride began to seek worship and then created religion. Instead of showing men the right things to do to know how to commune with his God again and get direct answers. They taught men to listen to them. They copied from the laws of the ancient to create their own rules known as Dog-trines(Doctrines). Men then accept that the only way to know God is by going to the Circus center of their god men aka churches and obeying their Dog-trines

Man was created to be spiritual not religious!
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Lied: Heaven Celebrared Christmas by bobestman(m): 12:32pm On Dec 27, 2024
Its not about the celebration but about ehT happened that day. It has been happening even bf the Christ was born. A Sun/Son of God was born that day. A great light in the heavens was revealed that day. Their is a Hebrew festival called Hanukah. It is what they were celebrating the day he was born. In Gregorian calendar that day usually fall around December 25. Its a great sign to you all should ponder on

Again his true birth place with about 90% evidence show it was in Peru, South America on Piccu. Everything you need to know about the Christ is there. The mountain that surrounded Jerusalem and the fortress which can't be moved is still their. But you can't find that in fake Israel. The ppl know it was the true birth place of the true Christ before he was painted white. The ppl celebrate with his true image every 25th there. Their is also a great light that showed their on the 25th. This is why many South Americans are Christians. They know what happened their but you believed the Roman lies and recreated Israel with no good evidence

Traditionally and exothermically speaking, if you study the signs of the heavens and understand Astrology, you will know what actually happened that day. A light MenoRA usually appear that day even on the Piccu mountain in Peru. Our ancestors counted days by studying the skies. And theirs is far accurate than what you get in Gregorian and other calendars.

The birth of the Sun of God happened that day and he represents different things in many traditions all over the world. They celebrate him in some of their festivals. Christians think they know him better lol. He was never an Oyibo. He represents different things in many African traditions and they all celebrate him.
Christianity EtcRe: If ‘Jesus’ Woke Up After 3 Days, How Is It A Sacrifice? by bobestman(m): 11:15am On Dec 27, 2024
It's far deeper than what many of you know. It's more like a Ritual. Their is an ancient ritual practiced by our ancient ancestors who were God men to make them an immortal. We call Nze , which is same as Nazarite (A cult Christ belong to). You can read Judges 6, everything they do their is same with the Nze's and also same with things Christ stood for . They leave their hair to lock and don't drink strong drinks. The Oyibo s removed his his locks and gave him long sisi hairs and beard. They plagiarized many things in the book from your ancient stories

The ritual that make them immortal is same thing Christ went thru bf his death. The person will be given sth to drink and pronounced dead. He will be mourned by his relatives and wives. He will be buried and resurrect on the 3rd day. One of his wives or wife will have to anoint his body before his death and after. After his resurrection he will only be seen on white. Is this not same thing that happened with the Christ. The Yorubas may have sth similar but I don't know. This is practiced among ancient Igbo Nze's bastardized as Nazarite today

Now if I tell you that this Christ you all know is one of your kind and many things he did even his true name his similar to that of your ppl you will cry blood. He was never an Oyibo. Oyibos can't do all the things he did
Christianity EtcRe: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by bobestman(m): 2:56pm On Dec 18, 2024
All your religions know truth in parts and lies in part. No one is better. As we have former JW 's so we have former Deeper life, living Faith, Rccg etc

Since many are comfortable with the path they choosed cos they find it difficult to look within and tap from the truth hidden within them, let them focus on the path comfortable for them for in the time of RESTORATION you shall all know the truth and only that truth can set you free.

The goal is Righteousness cos all are in Isi/sin/blindness/Ignorance and can only know the truth in time of RESTITUTION of all things

For now focus on your path and that which is important 👉 RIGHTEOUSNESS, if thou be worthy at the time of RECONCILIATION, you shall be shown the FORTH
Christianity EtcRe: Can A New Christian Convert Keep All His 4 Wives Or Send Three Away? by bobestman(m): 12:08pm On Nov 04, 2024
Marriage is a covenant whether you marry one or ten. You break that covenant and commit sin if you send any of them away.
Which is better, sending away and break covenant or sending them away cos your brainwashed god men said so?
The law of polygamy agree that the man should provide for them all accordingly. If you don't have the money to take care of them all don't do it. Your god men teach you many errors and make you break God's commands but you don't know. If you find yourself in such situation follow the bible laws that guide polygamy and you will have peace. Don't follow the rules of your foolish god men. It's better to follow God than men. According to the law you can only divorce or send away any wife if you caught her commit adultery. If you send her away for anything else you sin.
Get them a special place and take care of them all
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Is Not God, He Cannot Do This. by bobestman(m): 11:59am On Oct 07, 2024
We are all created as gods but ignorance and blindness make us look like mere men. Even the Bible says "You are gods but shall die like mean men. If you can develop yourself you can become another Jesus in this dead world. Their is nothing Jesus did that you can't do. He even said if you believe you can can do greater things than what he did. Unfortunately you guys are living on 3000 yrs old fabrications. Every generation has their Jesus. We have got many messiahs since the world began cos every age has their Messiah.
Develop yourself
Be the Messiah of the new world
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu As First Acid Test For Justice Kekere-Ekun, Says Obidigbo by bobestman(m): 10:48am On Oct 07, 2024
Make he rot or die in jail and other blablabla. His ppl are trying to resolve this peacefully but you guys want him dead. Common ESN has better weapons than your Nigeria Army. Their are other Biafra groups ready and waiting. What if they all come together against you? This is not the former war, everything you have they have it more. Hope you guys know that War this days is not by gathering one place and start shooting. It is by bombs and drones. Many innocent ppl will die. You guys beating your chest here will be somewhere to hide when you see bombs flying everywhere. Some will hide in their toilet and start praying You guys should keep beating your chests. Let him go and unite the country. Kill him their and destroy it
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Teaches That Jesus Rose From The Dead Without His Body. by bobestman(m): 1:21pm On Aug 27, 2024
Westerhoffe:
In your eyes now, you have exposed something?
What have you exposed? 🤣🤣🤣

You keep confusing yourself in your ignorance and you say you expose me?
Really? 🤣🤣🤣

Coming to those in the graves, codes? Really?
Hope you're not teaching anyone these things though?
You are still a baby feeding fat with milk that is why this is too hard for you to understand. Lol I didn't expose you oo but your ignorance on this issue. You know nothing at all about what you want to argue and you are still forming wise. I only explained the issue here in a deeper way beyond the way
you were taught. So it will surely piss you off but it is the raw truth. Deal with that
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Teaches That Jesus Rose From The Dead Without His Body. by bobestman(m): 12:01pm On Aug 27, 2024
Westerhoffe:
Bla bla bla.
You just don't seem to get it, do you?
Spiritual body, physical body, Lazarus, the raised deads…
Do you even understand what you're trying to explain to me? ☺️☺️☺️
I simplified everything for you to make it easy but guess what? You will still disagree and keep forming wise in your ignorance. Even a kid will read and understand everything I put down here

I have exposed your ignorance on this issue. All you can do is to argue blindly to appear wise
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Teaches That Jesus Rose From The Dead Without His Body. by bobestman(m): 3:54pm On Aug 26, 2024
Westerhoffe:
You confused yourself here.
The physical eyes can not see spiritual bodies.
But a transformed immortal can, which is the case of JESUS CHRIST.

When there shall be on the day of Resurrection, what do you think will happen to those in the graves?
You lack understanding on these things and still forming wise
Do you even understand what ispiritual body is? According to your bible it a resurrected body or heavenly body. The later is far correct. It's your original body in the spiritual realm. If one is given the the privilege to ascend into the heavens, he need the spiritual body to ascend cos you can't function with your earthly body in the spiritual realm - IHave repeated this 3 times now. What is from earth is earth and what is spirit is spirit. Not everybody ascend. Only God men who are here from their on a mission. Heaven is not for all but immortals or ascended masters

What you also fail to understand is that the dead cannot receive a spiritual body. If they want to ascend they will have to resurrect with their earthly body and as they ascend into the heavens their body will be changed and hence they are clothed with a spiritual body. Christ died but can never go to heaven in death cos the dead can't see God but the living. This is why he resurrected before ascending into heaven. This is same with Elijah and Enoch. They didn't die but went ascended with their earthly body which will be changed as they ascend further
A resurrected body is not a spiritual body. Lazarus resurrected body is not a spiritual body. The ppl Christ raised from dead don't have spiritual body. Christ resurrected not with a spiritual body. But as a god man and a heavenly being on a mission he can recieve that body before he ascend. Some receive it as they ascend into the heavens. If he don't want to go to heaven after the resurrection he will be left with his physical body. So being a god man who want to ascend back and proof a point to his friends he recieved that body that made him look differently from others. That will never happen if he want to still remain ion earth. This is same as what you ppl call rapture in your ignorances and blindness. Once you begin to ascend your body will be changed or you recieve a spiritual body

The physical eye can't see a spiritual body....LOL. Christ was seen when he was ascending, Elijah was seen, Enoch was seen. My ancestors and some of yours who were true priests were seen before they ascend out of earth. Your spiritual body will only be given to you as you ascend out of earth not on earth. But that of Christ was different cos he was a great one. During the transfiguration, ppl saw Christ and the others. Their is nothing like a transformed immortal. Anybody who is privileged to see can see even unbelievers.

If you can't understand this simple things I say how will you understand what will happen to those in the grave? Those things are codes. Not what you can understand by mere reading
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Teaches That Jesus Rose From The Dead Without His Body. by bobestman(m): 12:05pm On Aug 23, 2024
Westerhoffe:
I know about the difference between the Spirit, Soul, and Body.

I was not asking you for explanation, I asked, in which body was Enoch and Elijah taken up?

You said spiritual body, what happened to their physical bodies?

I once said JESUS CHRIST took back His body which had become immortal and incorruptible after it had went through death to resurrection, which is why even though the prints of the nails and stabs were on Him, He did not bleed because He has been transformed.

Well, you may not understand this, and I understand that.
Hahaha you are the one far from understanding these simple things
I have explained to you twice what it takes to ancend into the dimensions of light but you still lack understanding. Your physical body can only function in this realm.

Elijah and Co were transformed before they can ascend. Can you fly into the air with your normal body? NO. They were transformed or given a spiritual body with which one can ascend into the realm of light. When one want to ascend, the physical body will die and the soul will take up a spiritual one

Your problem here is that you lack knowledge on the mystery of resurrection ancension. In resurrection, the soul is called back from the realm he is. In death some souls still stay around their body until they are buried. After burial they go to their realm. In 3 to 10 days some might have reached their realm while some are still walking to their realm. A higher power can decide to stop them or in the case of Lazarus call the soul back into the body. When this happens the soul goes back into that body and together with the spirit it resurrects. When this happens, it same person that came back. Same soul and body so it is not a spiritual or transformed body. It's same person that died that came back. So when Christ died and resurrected or came out from the soul realm, he came out with same body he died with not a spiritual or transformed body cos in this case the soul have to fused back into the body in the grave and the spirit will lighten it. This is why they all knew him and the scars was seen too. You resurrect with the body you died in. Ppl who died and came back or resurrected still have memory of everything about them.

But in ancension, you will have to put off the earthly body for a spiritual one that can function in the realm you are going

These things are simple but your hardened mind won't help you understand.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Teaches That Jesus Rose From The Dead Without His Body. by bobestman(m): 10:05am On Aug 23, 2024
Westerhoffe:
When Elijah and Enoch were taken up to heaven, in which body were they taken?
Lol. I already answered your question
You can't leave this realm called earth with your weak earthly body.
The soul is the real you not your body. Your body is just a cloth you put on whenever you come to Earth. It's weak and limits your powers. This is why in visions and dreams you see yourself do extraordinary things but when you wake up in reality you can't do those things. Your weak body limits the power in your soul.
Your earthly body is made for this earth which is earthly
Your soul is made for a higher spiritual realm which is spiritual
As your soul can't function alone on earth without a body so your your earthly bodies will be shield off before you can enter a higher spiritual realm.
The Christ who is an ancient soul, a higher being and god man, when he wants to come to earth need to take on a body that is used on earth (Born again with an earthly body). He needed to be born of a woman to have our experience But on leaving earth he will shield that earthly body for a spiritual one used in higher realms

So anyone born of human who want to ascend out of this earth be it Elijah, Enoch, Christ, yiur ancestors etc must shield their earthly bodies for a spiritual one before they can ascend. Like I said earlier, to ascend, one must pass thru the Stargate which is in the sun. That sun alone will melt you earthly body. This is why a spiritual body is given if one wants to ascend

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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witness Teaches That Jesus Rose From The Dead Without His Body. by bobestman(m): 3:47pm On Aug 22, 2024
This ppl in their many errors have got understanding in many things more than you Pentecostals. No man can ancend into the heaven with his earthly body which is very weak and limits the power of the soul. Christ and many who Ascended are Ascended MASTERS. They have been their before they descended. Their aim whenever it is their season to reincarnate into earth is to instruct and guide others in truth especially when the world has been corrupted with lies and false teachings. When they finish their assignment they ascend back. Their kind are the only ones who ancend and descend to heaven. Heaven is a spiritual place and not for everyone but the chosen masters.

So Christ truly resurrected but to ascend, he must put off the earthly body which limits the capabilities of the soul. When you sleep or meditate your physical body is dead and the soul is alive with his capabilities, that is why you see visions, fight and conquer that is if your soul is powerful. Your earthly bodies limits the power of your soul. For Christ to ascend after resurrection he must shield that earthly body. Anyone who want to ascend must pass thru the Stargate which is in the Sun a powerful light, your earthly body can not stand it and it must die and you will be given a new one before you can go further. This is what is written as spiritual body. You ascend with a spiritual body not your earthly body which is weak. Many of us are ancient souls just like the Christ but we can't remember things that happen in our past lives cos of the the weak body we were clothed with but when we sleep or meditate we can see or have knowledge of things we did in the past. Your earthly body limits the power of your soul. Christ Ascended with a spiritual body not the earthly one

This also makes it clear to you Christians that one can't enter wherever you know as heaven or see God as a dead person. Christ need to resurrect with his physical body before he can ascend. You can't see God as a dead man but as a living cos only the living can praise or see God

We this few points of mineI I have proofed to you that JWs are right on this and that many of you Pentecostals have few knowledge on this issues

Thank you
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Says There Will Be Two Resurrections- Where Does The Rapture Come In? by bobestman(m): 2:16pm On Aug 22, 2024
The Bible is coded and only alive in the hands of the ancient ppl whose ancestors wrote it.
Their is nothing like Rapture. The word Rapture has the root word RA which means LIGHT and also the ancient name of a wise one. Rapture means a time when a great light will shine which will lead to many awakening from many of your religious lies. They will begin to see an expose the many lies in your religions. They will no longer be comfortable with many lies in your religions

What they wrote to you as Resurrection was actually Reincarnation/Rebirth /Reborn/Born Again. To resurrect means to bring back to life thru birth. Do you think many will start jumping out of their graves? Lol. All these things in your bible are codes and many already happening. It's not happening the way you read. It's all coded

The resurrection of life is for all saints who have died and those who are going to die in the days ahead. Daniel 12:2 made it simple. All who have died at the age of light will resurrect/reborn/rebirthed or awake to hear the final message from the messenger of truth (Rev 14:6; 18:1-4). Christ said in Matt 24 that a certain message not the lies taught in your churches will be preached to all as a Witness before the end. This shows that non of you know the truth until that hour. That message is what will save or condemn anyone as he said he that believes shall be saved and those that reject shall be condemned or destroyed.

Those who died in truth shall be reborn and never die again to experience everlasting life.
The children of darkness /evil shall not reincarnate after these seasons. This means they will be forgotten or gone forever or everlasting contempt or death.

The people that shall be left on earth are the children of Light in the eternal kingdom and those who were made on earth. It shall stay so until the whole earth be purified(the Bible says after a thousand years) at which time only the saints shall remain

Nobody is breaking out from their graves or flying to the skies. Everything will happen gradually until the earth is rid of evil doers or sanitized.
Christianity EtcRe: OBATALA Created Rules Upon Which The Universe Operates by bobestman(m): 1:08pm On Aug 22, 2024
Zaheertyler:
This is like the fifth obatala’s post I’ve seen this morning
Also had a dream of a man in full white horse dressed in white and his face covered with white cowries there was so many crowd following him I woke up and obatala has been on my mind and I keep seeing his post and videos everywhere
What might that mean
It's very simple and clear
Obatala is the person the Churchians erroneously call Jesus
He was the first light that pertook in Creation. He is the one called the Word as seen in the bible as " In the beginning was the Word".
He has different names in different African cosmology
His mother was Ala which means Earth in Igbo cosmology. The one known as Mother earth that first descended on earth and he was that child coded in Revelation 12. His mother descended on the waters of Oshimili where their is a bowel in the earth in the Eastern part of Nigeria. Her mother was Afor which is also Ala (Earth). The Igbo call themselves Nwa Afor Igbo. Direct seed of mother earth. Obatala was her first child. That makes him the Lord or owner of the earth. In other words Landlord of the earth. He is the one that manifested to Abraham as Melchizedek. Abraham knowing him had to give him his tithes as the Landlord or owner of the Earth. Melchizedek was the king of righteousness. White represents righteousness or purity. Obatala is the king of white clothes (Righteousness). He is Eze Udo in Igbo. His mother was the first and he ruled here before moving West. Nigeria is the place of creation and the geographic is a place of 4 Rivers and those 4 Rivers surrounds West Africa where Eden was. His true home

You saw him cos his our is near. The identity was swap for an usurper. So many and those who call themselves Christian don't know him. He is in their book but they don't him. Many things need to be made clear or corrected cos all are in blindness. In other words according to the bible, all have sinned or in error. But the day of correction will come before sanitation
Christianity EtcRe: Actually, Do You Need Church As A Christian For Anything? by bobestman(m): 3:27pm On Aug 15, 2024
achorladey:
The same questions that he cannot ask his GODS of men housed in USA and not get reproved or cautioned as going beyond what is written.
Exactly. If they ask their leaders any question that is against their doctrines they will ignore them. That is why Michael want to kill me with questions. He is too shy to tell them that he is tired of all their lies and foolish doctrines

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