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MaxInDHouse:
It's my Bible so you need to humble and listen in order to understand.

Lol and you don't know the difference between what I said and what was written. That's ignorance

Truthseeker10:
These are clearly your words below. You are the one clearly twisting your own words.

"God is everything. Everything he created. When you see humans, spirits , animals, plants etc that is God."

You would only be contradicting yourself if you Say anything that is different from what you said above in bold.

If you read everything and keep arguing about this then children are far better than you. I will advise you to go take a nap. The sun is too hot. Your brain will get it when you wake up

MaxInDHouse:
So it's not your own Bible since you don't want to believe it therefore if my Bible says something that means i have the understanding that's why i'm interpreting what MY BIBLE said!

Pele. But you were saying I said it and want to twist it to prove me wrong 😀

MaxInDHouse:
Can you see how confused you are now?😀

I explained what Isaiah said you want to argue but you yourself said everything God created was GOOD so how come you want to say EVIL was created by God again?

In the beginning God said everything He created was GOOD! Genesis 1:31

Stop confusing your ignorance. Your bible said that not me. When your bible said something don't make it look like my words. The bible verse was clear that he created both light and darkness. Evil and good for certain reasons. Some wars were allowed by God to prove a point and even disaster. Those wars and climatic changes with destruction are created by who? You people think you know God better than himself. He can allow some evil to create balance. After darkness comes light. It's a dual nature. Positive and negative forces all to create balance. You don't know God better than himself. You are even twisting bible verses you don't understand to suit your narrative. Be wise

MaxInDHouse:
So God never create evil as you thought!

Not my thoughts. Your bible clearly said it

Truthseeker10:
These are clearly your words below. You are the one clearly twisting your own words.

"God is everything. Everything he created. When you see humans, spirits , animals, plants etc that is God."

Quoting one and leaving the other where the point is is nothing but manipulation. The point is that they carry a fraction of God who made them but not God. You still need to try harder in learning how to manipulate. To understand many things you have to read the context. Even a 2 years child knows that animals and plants are not God and will know that they have to read further to get the point. I speak in codes to get your attention and then decode it for easier understanding. Simple

MaxInDHouse:
You and i aren't saying the same thing you are saying God created some to be good and some to be evil which means God is the mastermind behind evil deeds.
What that verse means is that God is the One who created things we use to do evil and things we use to do good.
The import is Isaiah shouldn't be scared of those people God is sending him to because whatever thing they try to use to harm Isaiah God created that thing so He (God) has the power to redirect such thing to do something different.
For instance Nebuchadnezzar wanted to use FIRE to destroy three Hebrew boys but the FIRE only killed his own guards while God's servants felt like they are inside a room filled with AC.

Of course the gasses that makes up fire was redirected to do something different by God who created those gasses.

That's the import of what you quoted not that God is behind evil deeds!🙂

You are very wrong and just twisting it to stay in the argument. Everything he created was good but some became evil according to their choices. Mind you to do evil the thoughts usually come from your mind. The main issue here is your thoughts. If you can't control your thoughts you might be tempted to do evil. Stop forcing it to look relevant. I said according to the bible he created good and evil. Not that he created evil people. I said ye are gods and you people brought in nappers and terrorists asking if they are gods too. Very manipulative people. Even human and spirit were once good before they chose to be bad. You guys are just twisting things I said that you don't understand to make me look wrong. It's simple. Be wise!

Truthseeker10:
Below is your statement.

"God is everything. Everything he created. When you see humans, spirits , animals, plants etc that is God."

1)Did you not clearly state above that when I see humans, Animals and Plants Then That is God since God is everything? So which one is the lesser God that you are talking about now?

2)You have been quoting Jesus since morning. Kindly show me Where Jesus said God is everything including Humans, spirits, Animals and plants. And that When I see the listed, then I have seen God.

You aren't a kid. You understand clearly what I meant. Stop making me explaining over and over. I speak in codes you don't need to crack you brain to understand what I meant. Birds, plant, animals, us etc only carry a fraction of the spark of the Almighty. Something created can't be the creator but carry attributes of the Creator. When I said the above I also gave you clear examples to show what I meant. But for you to argue you are twisting and manipulating it to mean I said Animals, plant etc are God Almighty. Christ said you are a gods. God is in everything. Very simple. Try harder

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't understand something ask questions.
God created things humans use for evil and things we use for good that's the meaning not that God who warned His worshipers to desist from evil is the one masterminding it.
Do you understand now?🙂

If you are wise you will understand what I am saying. It's same thing but mine is from a deeper point of view. Why did he create the evil and why did some people can't stop doing evil? I have you church member as a biz nebo and she is full of all wickedness and bitterness and want to bring me down why still pretending they are the only godly people. You think I am one of those you can decieve with your jw false teachings? You explain a verse you think you understand but leave the other which Christ said cos you have no idea. If he don't want us to choose he won't create evil too cos people will always be tempted to do wrong. I told you and your friend that it's a choice if one choses to do evil. The book also said he gave 2 ways that you should chose who to worship. Follow good or evil. So it's a choice if you chose any of this. But you and your friend want to find fault in everything I said. If you like don't understand and keep twisting it

MaxInDHouse:
Is there anything wrong in the attribute of your god?
Is evil no more part of your god?🤔

You guys together will still be thoroughly schooled by me. Guy grow up and stop kidding. Where did I mention my god? I teach you from what the bible God said,l and the Christ but you are making it look like my words and my god. Stop disgracing yourself. You just want to use that line since you can't argue what I said. You call yourselves christians but so shameless that you are even denying what Christ said that I tried to help you understand. Your bible even said God created both good and evil affirming what I already said. You have nothing to say but pained that I am teaching from your bible what you don't know and can never know even when it's very clear in the book. You guys are just shameless

Truthseeker10:
Below is your statement in bold.

"God is everything. Everything he created. When you see humans, spirits , animals, plants etc that is God."

According to you, when I see a terrorist or kidnapper, fish and flower, That is God.

When you guys see something bigger than you. Something challenging everything you know as a churchian but buried deep inside the same book you read you cry and try to use manipulation to twist the whole thing

What I said is very simple that even a kid will understand but here are adults trying to twist it cos it challenge what they believe not that it is not in their bible

I made it clear that everything God created carries his mark or spirit. Meaning they possess an aspect of God but not God Almighty. They carry the spark, light or spirit of God which mafe them lesser gods if they know who they are. Christ made clear by telling the people that are gods but shall die like mean men cos they have no knowledge of the power they carry. Many people their when Christ said that might not be good people. You can even see nappers and terrorists their and yet he said they are gods. Why are you people trying to fight this simple truth with clear evidence from your bible? Because it challenges the lies you have been taught all your life. We carry the spirit of God and so is everything he created that doesn't mean they are God Almighty. Make una learn

Truthseeker10:
I am not asking you whether napper or terrorist is a choice or not. If a person becomes a terrorist or kidnapper, has the person stopped being God?


So if a person begins to do evil, the person is no longer God? If yes, can you still claim that God is everything?

I understand your evil strategies. You wanna use manipulation to make me look wrong even when when you know the truth

Your problem might be from what I said that we are gods . It's not my words alone. It's in your old testament and Christ himself affirmed it. Christ and the Psalmist said we are gods. Since you think you are wise ask Christ whether someone who is a napper or terrorists is still a god? To me they are but in blindness cos all have sinned. The god within can only be awakened when you begin to do right. It's likened to Adam sinning and losing his relationship with God. But when he repents he gets back the glory. The god within is always their. When you fall into blindness you lose companionship but when you do right you restore the glory

Another childish idea. You are gods whether you do good or bad. When you are in blindness you lost the power. When you are doing right you enjoy the privileged of being god.

Very very simple but you just wanna argue

Truthseeker10:
1)You were the one that said that God is everything. Are you saying that when people become terrorists and kidnappers they are no longer part of God?

2)You claim God has a positive and negative side. Are you saying that the Devil is the negative side of God?

I know you will come with your evil manipulations not that you don't understand what I meant .
God is everything cos we have his spirit within us. To be a napper or terrorists is a choice. He is not responsible for your choices

Stop adding lies to what I said make God's anger no descend on you. I said the ability to do good or evil exist in all. It's your choice to do either good or evil.

Truthseeker10:
So if God is everything, he is the terrorists and kidnappers killing people today?

Poor mindset. Childish question. You know the truth but just want to argue

Who created them? Were they terrorists and Napers when they were created? Why did they become so? You already know the answer and that is the holy truth. You have been here for long but lack knowledge in many things. See how the write up was simple and clear but you came with a childish question which I already answered. God is everything cos his footprint is in everything he made. Everything has his positive and negative side. The good and the bad side. If you follow the good you become good(God) and if you follow the evil you become evil (devil)

A Creator creates. He is the source or the Creator of all things seen and unseen. A totality of all consciousness seen and unseen. He predates religion and their books. God is everything. Everything he created. When you see humans, spirits , animals, plants etc that is God. Why cos those things carry a fraction of him (His footprint, DNA, spirit). This is why he is everything cos everything carries his footprint as the source of them all. His spirit we possess make us smaller gods also. The bible says we are gods, traditions believes we possess a portion of God called Chi/Ori. All affirms we have a portion of God that is why we are gods. God is in us all

Now to know the true God and source of all you have to know and have relationship with the god within you. It's only the God that is within you that can tell you about the Almighty not books or religion. Why? Because the god within you is a fraction of the Almighty and knows the Almighty better than what religion or books can tell you. All you need is to ask questions in stillness and wait for answers. Even the Christian bible says that it's those who are led by the spirit of God that are real sons of God

To know God, know your Chi/Ori. Know thyself!

constancefriday:
Nice one, a round of applause. You actually converted this stuff into pure biblical theology.
You're good at it

You however don't have to label my presentation as nonsense.
Your conversion of this astrological information into biblical theology obeys my suggesting that we should drop the tarot cards and pick up the scriptures.

Thanks
Unless you talking about my argument with that guy that has been mad for decades here

I didn't convert anything. That's how it was. Before your bible this is the ancient way ppl used to know or discover things about time and seasons. It is not for everyone but those who understand the times.

Your scrip-ture is just a script that holds recordsof many things written by those who used the knowledge of the Mazzarout to do great things. God himself asked Job if he understood those things meaning he want us to understand it too. The fact that some used it the wrong way doesn't make it wrong. Everything comes on twos, the good and bad. It depends on which you want to follow. Many of you put more emphasis on script-ture which today is not the true scripture. Many wrote in ignorance adding and subtracting what suits them. These days one should depend on his spirit not script written by the wrong ppl cos it is truly those who are led by the spirit of God are the true sons of God. You spirit can teach you many things written out of context or show you certain things removed. So your bible are just scripts. Their are ppl gifted with the knowledge of astrology. The fact that you don't understand doesn't make it wrong

Dtruthspeaker:
It was you who insalted yourself in being caught and shown that you are an ivu lieyar. And now you resort to the fallacy ad hominem in your attempt to cover your shame filldness.

Pagan, Christ and Belial can never ever mix, so keep your pagan gods away lest God break your head as He did to Dagon

Hahaha you don cut out the main lecture cos you know it's the raw truth and quoted only what you can .....with gibberish. Enjoy your ignorance till when you are finally ready to have sense

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you are proving you are ivu just like say-ta _?

You know that most dangerous and most wickedest lies are those ones which contain Truths in them.

So now you want rely on the fact that they contain some Truth to thereby commit the fallacy of saying therefore the whole thing is True.

Pagan, you have failed. Christ and Belial can never ever mix.

"The most harmful lies and the most hurtful, always contain a grain of truth. But nevertheless, lies they do remain" — Robin Jarvis

"Half-truth is the most dangerous form of lie, because it can be defended in part by incontestable logic" — Manly Hall

That a lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies- Alfred, Lord

You are a baby in all these things. Always trying to insult ppl in what is visible exposes your ignorance. You lack understanding on many deeper issues in the bible. Their are many things not written just cos the power who control and gave you religion don't like it

The cosmos and the universe are all creation of the Almighty and all declare his glory. God created the 12 signs of the mazzarout as 12 cycles of month that completes a year. The message was pervated by occultists and use to do evil. That doesn't change the true message for only those who are called can unravel the mysterious within it

You are baby who lack understanding if not you will see all these things in your bible. God expected us to study it and use it in our favour. God himself asked Job about his knowledge of the heavenly bodies and if he is able to use them in Job 38. God expected us to have the knowledge of his creations. If the occult can use it for evil, we should use it for good. Carry your biro and book and Open your bible to Job 38

God was asking Job....
Can you bind the sweet influence of the Pleiades? Google Pleiades

Loose the bands of Orion. Google Orion

Bring firth the Mazzarout in his season. Search the Mazzarout

Guide Arcturus with his stellar Sons. Google Arcturus

God is asking Job that if he knew the ordinances of the heavens ( knowledge of the Mazzarout or zodiac signs)

Set the dominion of the stars on the earth

Lift up your voice to control the stellar clouds

Send lightening as weapons

Put the wisdom of the heavens in your inward parts

God himself gave understanding of the stars to our hearts

Number the starfilled clouds in wisdom

Stay the bottles of heaven to avoid climatic changes

All these are what God was asking Job about the stars of heaven (the Zodiac). The enemies manipulate it. God expected us to have the knowledge to counter their evil.

I am not your mate in all these. You ppl read bible but have no understanding cos understanding is only given to a few. If you like twist it into another thing instead of learning from this great exposition. I don try for you

Dtruthspeaker:
Clearly your fabrication of Lies and you already knew that I will catch your Lies so you you must flee.

For even without going through all of your lying fabrications of perversions I immediately see that Isaiah 5:5-6 already shows how big a Lieyar yew are!

For nothing there talks about crab sheepfold.

Nor Romans 1:3 say anything about twins.

Clearly you are Pagan trying to use the bible to justify your paganism like Muslims do. (No wonder you were hiding your religion)

But it can never work for light and darkness have no pact nor Christ with Belial.

Your problem is always ignorance and too know. Always want to thrash everything as lies to justify your selfish ego. Why not talk about the other verses? Gemini means twins. 2 edge sword. Ejima. . You already know what the other verse is talking about. Your modern Christianity is influenced by Europeans who fabricated his true teachings. Keep learning

Dtruthspeaker:
The thread shows you are lying for the counter has been there since yesterday and today and as the thread shows no one challenges it. So you are just showing that like the op, you are both Lieyarz

You can't counter the truth. It's just chochocho

Dtruthspeaker:
Clearly your fabrication of Lies and you already knew that I will catch your Lies so you you must flee.

For even without going through all of your lying fabrications of perversions I immediately see that Isaiah 5:5-6 already shows how big a Lieyar yew are!

For nothing there talks about crab sheepfold.

Nor Romans 1:3 say anything about twins.

Clearly you are Pagan trying to use the bible to justify your paganism like Muslims do. (No wonder you were hiding your religion)

But it can never work for light and darkness have no pact nor Christ with Belial.

Hahahaha. It's better you go through it, carry your biro and jot or be fooling yourself on what you don't know that is bigger than you. It's very simple and clear

Dtruthspeaker:
This is you proving
People swallow greedily any lie that flatters them but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter", Denis Diderot

Did you not see me counter his arguments? Come and prove me wrong if you can.

You countered nothing. What he wrote is the pure truth many can never understand now

You see many of those signs when you look at the cloud. Each angel has a planet which they govern or rule. They all have their territories

Dtruthspeaker:
You have detailed pagan practices of witchcraftism yet you say it is not evil where God commanded that witches should be offd.

The mere fact that the Magi used astrology to find The Lord, or that it can be used for valid purposes does not mean that it should be accepted by Christians for we trust God in all things whether pursuing an enterprise or for guidance

The signs and their biblical verses
They all declare the message of the true Christ

♍ Virgo rep the seed of the woman who will bring about the birth of a son who will bring redemption. Isaiah 7:14. Rev 12

♎ Libra rep balances of the redeemer's atonement. 1Cor 6:20

♐ Sagittarius rep the his triumphant Archer. Rev 6:2

♑ Capricorn rep the the atonement slained to procure his blessings. Gal 3:13

♒ Aquarius the water bearer is the bearer is the bearer of the living water poured for redemption. The angel in charge of rain. John 7:38

Pisces the two fishes. Redeemed and yet bound. Ancient Christianity symbol is Fish. Mark 1:17

♈ Aries is the lamb slained and yet prepared for victory. Rev 5:6

♉ Taurus is the bull coming to rule the earth as Messiah. Read the book of Isaiah and Deuteronomy 33: 13-17. Joseph's glory was prophesied to be like a bull with horns of a unicorn. That is the prophecy about Christ redeeming his ppl

♊ Gemini the two fold nature of the king. Twins. Romans 1:3

♋ Cancer the crab sheepfold of his possession. Isaiah 5:5-6

♌ Leo The messiah is a lion of the tribe of Judah. Rev 5:5

You still won't understand. Your modern Christianity is European version full of many lies. The ancient and true one understand many of these things

I know you will continue with your nonsense arguments. Understand or pass

Dtruthspeaker:
You have detailed pagan practices of witchcraftism yet you say it is not evil where God commanded that witches should be offd.

The mere fact that the Magi used astrology to find The Lord, or that it can be used for valid purposes does not mean that it should be accepted by Christians for we trust God in all things whether pursuing an enterprise or for guidance

Pagan practices used in your bible?You will never learn man. Always fighting everything you don't understand. Your last statement shows you agreed it's in the bible but now claiming it's not for Christians. Let me show you bible verses for each sign. It's the message of the mazzarout and has root in ancient true Christianity not the corrupted version handed to you by Europeans

A generation of blind men following a blind religion created to control them. How can the Romans he spoke against give you a complete history of what he taught? What you all follow are all European fabrication which is different from his true message

When you see truth like this you guys are no longer disunited but will unite to paint everything evil yet non of you can dispute everything he wrote.

Astrology isn't evil as some think. It's real and our ancient African spiritual system.Everything comes in twos so their are those who use it the wrong way or for evil that doesn't mean it's evil. It can tell you about your life. When ppl are born it's what the priests used to know what the child will become. It has its root in the bible. The heavens declare the glory of God. It's through Astrology that African got their own calendar. The Magi who saw Christ sign did through Astrology they still came to honour him. It's what the ancients used to calculate times before the invention of Gregorian calendar which was even copied from African calendar gotten through Astrology. All the signs are connected to your bible and even have bible verses. Don't fear those images they are just planetary rulers or angels good or bad assigned to a planet. Go to your bible and check the living creatures. It's just a description of such things. If you observe the cloud you will also such things. You Christians feat too much and lack understanding on many things. Born again is just an awakening consciousness. When you are awakened you will know that the kingdom is within you

Many who claim to be awake teach this but they are very wrong
God is within you as you guys claim which is true but how can a formless entity as you think create something with form and then dwell within it?

The creator of a thing can only create sth that has features like him. We were created in his image meaning we are just a lower form of the creator

As above so below. Everything you see on earth is a replica of what you see above or in the spiritual realm

If we are God's temple, how can he that has no form love in a temple which is us?

If we are spiritual being with human experience, it means we first exist in the spiritual where God exist but in a higher consciousness above us

God and his spiritual creations are all Gods based on hierarchy. We are small gods in human body. So we are here manifesting what we were in the spiritual state where God also dwell

Your teaching about the Creator is wrong

Their are physical sons of God. Some of us and Spiritual sons God : Masters who passed their mission on earth and have the privilege to sit in the throne of God. These ppl are those who are sent at a certain time to earth to correct ppl of their wrong ways cos they passed while on earth which made them to ascend but those who failed are sent back to continue their lesson till they pass. An example of these ppl is Christ the Christians call Jesus. He is the one God accordingly to the bible called his precious son. The parable in Mark 12:6 says it all. Among the angels or sons of God their is usually one precious one in the sight of God

All thanks to the Almighty God
I remembered the day he insulted me and the Creator that I went out at midnight cos of him. I wanted to curse him but Change my mind and ask the Almighty to reveal himself to him in a way he will understand. After sometimes I didn't hear from him in any thread on the forum. I am not even active here. The truth is that what he said to me that day and what I asked that midnight is still fresh in my head.

Their is God ooo. Religions only know in path not all. The true God has always been within you not in any religion or book cos "ye are god", which means you carry a fraction of God within you. So when you doubt the existence of God you need to begin by asking yourself questions. The God within you will reveal it to you via dreams or vision but you must ask rightly. I remember I told him that too and ask him to meditate and ask quietly

All thanks to the Almighty!