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QuinQ:
Now that many people have agreed with me, I want to state some of the points clearly so that (hopefully) everybody will agree with me.

**1) Birth DNA test is best because it makes this debate mute. But unfortunately we don't have that

**2) A man who has raised and loved a child from infancy to teenage IS HIS FATHER and ought focus on properly raising the precious child to maturity, instead of spending scarce resources on UNWARRANTED DNA FISHING EXPEDITIONS!

**3) Nothing wrong in the state enacting laws to encourage him do just that.

**4) 90% of DNA test cases, the husband is the biological. So we're talking about 10%. Different if the tests were free and unobtrusive. But no, they're expensive and involves the children and their mother who now know their father lacks trust in them. And lacks love for them too because if you love someone you won't be out trying to prove they're not your child! Those are enough to break up a home even if it turns out the father is the biological!

**5) Efect on society as a whole ought also be taken into account. Unwarranted DNA fishing expeditions on teenagers raised from birth can only result in possible broken homes, destruction of trust within the home, and fatherless children that'll likely end up menace to society!

**6) Govt's duty to protect life and property is not helped by broken homes and fatherless children. The main aim ought be to prevent destabilization of families and allow children be raised with both a father and a mother.

**7) Assuming test is negative, the biological will not suddenly appear!

**8} Even if you land in the 10% it is not the end of the world. Remember people pay millions for a child and others fight tooth and nail for custody. Getting a healthy child for free is not the worst thing in the world.

**9) Also remembe that throughout human history there had never been DNA tests yet we're still around and kicking. And sometimes, unbeknownst to the father, the most successful of his children is not even his biological child
but he gets all the accolade as his father and the child carries his name and proudly references him as his father. How is sperm more important than that?

**10) If you study the screenshot below you'll know that many people (maybe including you) are NOT biologically related to some of their ancestors. What difference has it made??

**11) The only father who has testified on this thread wrote: "After.after the love and bonding with my children from pregnancy to infancy to adolescence, many times we've shared love, sufferings, laughter, pains and joy together then one idiot from nowhere wants to drag me to go and do DNA, as how naw?"

Hopefully everyone now agrees with me. If you still don't, all I can say is I'm sorry for you!

I agree with you. But it won't work because they now have home DNA tests.
What government should do is find a way to prevent stupid, lazy, and criminal people from breeding.

AsomughaChuks02:
You didn't see Peter Obi when he did the same thing in Anambra, abi?

What did he do? Can you gist us?

Ricchmoen:
Iran also attack a bridge connecting Saudi Arabia Bridge linking with 1 of the Arab countries

Problem is that IRGC are trained to be suicidal. How do you fight someone who wants to die by threatening him with death?

Queengee:
Based on current form, my picks are:

France to edge Spain in a very cl[b][/b]semifinal. France have been one of the tournament's strongest teams, and many analysts slightly favor them.

England to narrowly beat Argentina. It's a true 50–50 matchup, but England have looked very composed in the knockout rounds.

So my predicted final is:
France vs England
My score predictions:
France 2–1 Spain
England 2–1 Argentina (possibly after extra time)

PrivateSeal:
France VS England.... Final

France 2-1 Spain

England 2-0 Argentina

Blingblings:
FRANCE
ENGLAND
SPAIN
ARGENFIFA

IN THAT ORDER.... MARK THIS POST!

chicfarmer:
You dey whine?
France vs England jor

Shinzokiyotake:
France Vs England Final

fineboynl:
France Vs England final. France will win final

Sagacity10:
Honestly I see England will come out victorious against Argentina.

peleson1:
France to win the world cup

They are more complete than the rest teams

Mbappe to win the golden boot

What does it feel like to be TOTALLY wrong?
I'm asking because I've never had the experience

QuinQ:
Thanks. Couldn't have said it better

You are simply right - if one stops going by instinct like an animal! We are not lower animals. We are humans!. God gave us brains and we ought use it to override base instincts!

Here's what I further wrote the guy:

Seriously, learn to THINK. It will free you from living by instinct like an animal. For example it will free you from the irrational obsession with DNA. Thinking will let you see that what makes a person your son and you their father is NOT sperm!

And this:

Can't you see that some of your forefathers might not have been your biological forefathers? All through history there has never been DNA. Sometimes, unbeknownst to the father, the most successful of his children is not even his biological child, but he gets all the accolade as his father and the child carries his name and proudly references him as his father.
Can't you see that matters way more than sperm??

QuinQQ:
Am I right or am I just so right?

You are right! Exactly what I was trying to tell the
GenFunction guy on another thread.

Here's exactly what I wrote him:
I'm teaching you to THINK rather than going by mindless instinct. Nature gave us strong instinct to have our genes survive exactly like lower animals. That's why men have an instinctive urge to sleep with as many women as possible - thereby guaranteeing survival of their genes.
But you can override that animal instinct with THOUGHT! If you THINK about it, your particular genes surviving benefits you NOTHING. What's important is that you are father to a well-raised child who respects and references you as his father!

MT:
I hope you are watching Spain vs France? 😁😁😁😳

MT:
Mr probability, has France won?😁😁😁😁🥹🥹

We dey tell you, you dey argue.

Next time, listen to the elders 😁😁

You guys are right. Damn!
Lucky I didn't watch the game because I was sure France would win.
Darn! Football is indeed not mathematics. Infact life is not logical. Remind me to never forget that

** Oh I just noticed it is same guy

JASONjnr:
I'll prefer to refer to it as love rather than addiction.... Addiction is negatively viewed while love is unconditionally acceptable for feelings and doing without the person you vowed to spend the rest of your life with.

Unfortunately it is NOT love. I've actually heard a couple say they won't leave each other because the other one may find true happiness with someone else! I'm not saying it is bad. I'm truly not sure if it is better to let yourself get addicted to another person or not.

GenFunction:
Teach yourself,you go need am….

Seriously, learn to THINK. It will free you from living by instinct like an animal. For example it will free you from the irrational obsession with DNA. Thinking will let you see that what makes a person your son and you their father is NOT sperm!

GenFunction:
If person spend time with you,u go reduce the person IQ

Quite the opposite. I'm teaching you to THINK rather than going by mindless instinct. Nature gave us strong instinct to have our genes survive exactly like lower animals. That's why men have an instinctive urge to sleep with as many women as possible - thereby guaranteeing survival of their genes.
But you can override that animal instinct with THOUGHT! If you THINK about it, your particular genes surviving benefits you NOTHING. What's important is that you are father to a well-raised child who respects and references you as his father!

JASONjnr:
When you spend the rest of your matured days being with someone...... The person you are so comfortable discussing your issues and health challenges with.... The person that knows the medication that works for you.... The food that is poisonous and virtually your second life? Someone that understands your body language, eye contact and mood?

Except there was no love.....

Mrexcell:
I personally can't surrender my entire life and totality to anyone no matter how that person loves me that space only belongs to my creator. I love to be free and hate obsession of any nature.

Human beings are creatures of habits and addictions. One of the strongest addictions a person can have is addiction to the presence of another person.
Just as withdrawal symptoms can kill you when the thing is abruptly removed, so also people can quickly die when the partner they'er addicted to is abruptly removed.
But it is addiction not love.
Which is better: to get addicted to someone or not?
Hard to answer. Are the benefits of the addiction more than the downsides?

I've noticed that incompetent Nigerian Army is very unhappy with involvement of US in their security operations and will always try to denigrate or contradict them!

Marindotijnr:
From the video we can’t see clearly if he was truly masturbating! And i doubt if he was judging from the space in the vehicle and the trousers he was wearing! There’s no way a man would masturbate in such space without unzipping! This is just another case of those sharp mouth tiny rude girls! Who are always irritated by being close to a man that isn’t their spec! She should provide evidence to support her claims!

mykymyk101:
Maturbating in public is a crime, but where is the evidence?

We only saw a video of defamation of character. The man said, "If i get you arrested, you will have to prove it at the station."

I think the first thing she was to do was capture the video evidence and then raise the alarm.

I can tell you that most of these content creators are evil.

They will do anything to trend regardless of the consequences.

This story is over 5 years old (FIVE YEARS!!!)
It happened March 13, 2021.
Nairaland and clueless mods, I hail o!
And yes, he was masturbating. And no, he was not a police officer but a driver.

GenFunction:
What a naive thing to say
This is 2026 not 1914
Like I said u dont value accountability and I’m not surprised

Just throwing out words because they sound cute to you. Define "accountability" for us.
Can't you see that some of your forefathers might not have been your biological forefathers? All through history there has not been DNA. Sometimes, unbeknownst to them, the most successful child is not even a biological child of the father but he gets all the accolade as his father and he carries his name and proudly references him as his father.
Can't you see that matters more than sperm??

How quickly human beings get used to magical things and stop marveling at the wonder of it. Internet, social, AI, are all wondrous, magical things. Let's always remember that!

GenFunction:
It won’t to you because u know nothing about accountability.

It's an honest question. You use your ITK to break up a happy, loving family that the father happily provided for. HOW does that benefit even the man talkless of society. In the old days whatever children your wife had were legally your children - even if you were already dead, as long as she remained your wife. So paternity was determined by whose wife she was when she gave birth NOT by sperm. That's a more sensible way. Example, what does it benefit you if you found out your father was not your biological father and he left the family and stopped training you?
DNA testing is not how nature intended things!

omoredia:
No it is lounging. Go and try it

Hilarious guy😅
So what game is not physical labour? How do you get some excercise?

GenFunction:
No they won’t
They have saved someone from paternity fraud
Moreover DNA no cheap for Naija
Should be about 700k

So how does it benefit society?

omoredia:
Read

https://www.almendron.com/tribuna/team-qatar-wanted-immigrant-players-not-citizens/

Ok, but this doesn't say Quatarian people don't play football because it is physical labour (what a ridiculous statement). It just says they want to field the best team possible
Below is the beginning

Magnetic010:
You are missing or refusing to acknowledge my point—did Argentina wipe out their entire black population this year? Did we all just find out about Argentina and their racism this year? NO!!’


We have always known this- what I do not like is the hypocrisy; the moment Argentina gets knocked out you all will stop talking about them and their racism…so you are not really bothered about their racism, you never did and never will; once this World Cup ends this all hypocrisy will end with it too- it’s just annoyance about the World Cup that is pushing you all nothing more.

How come none of you created a thread about Argentina and their racism last year?

Well, you're just plain wrong. Just because you didn't see it doesn’t mean people were not writing about it.
All these threads below are on Nairaland and from as way back as 2017!
So, you wrong on both counts:
1) Nigerians love Messi
2) People write about Argentina racism all the time

Kukutente23:
I believe that's your private definition

How about all these "genocide" written below? Am I also the one that wrote them??

Magnetic010:
I feel like you are too emotional about this issue- why must dy allow black people into their country? Do they owe it to black people to allow them live in their country? What is chasing black people away from their country? At least they are not pretending like other white countries what allow black in but systematically oppress them even till this day.


If you are actually serious about where to channel your anger towards in terms of racism, point it at Portugal- they stated slave trade, they were the ones that showed every other nation that humans were commodities to be sold and abused: but I’m sure you don’t hate them, of course not you love them, you love Ronaldo—so it’s not slave trade or racism you hate it’s Messi you actually hate, and using this whole racism as an excuse to push an agenda.

If Argentina should loose against England on Wednesday all these rubbish agenda you lot are pushing will just die


Argentina has been a racist country since day one, even the time of maradona, Batistuta, Crespo but non of you were bothered or outraged but their evil tendencies it’s only now that you are forming activist-

Guy keep your hypocrisy to yourself, we see beyond all that - before World Cup started you didn’t know that Argentina is a racist country Abi, abeg- watch football and leave mata


You saying they chanted racist things towards speed, has speed not being provoking people for not reason, didn’t the same speed go on stage to shout “fucck Messi” even when the guy no do am anything.

I will mark your moniker hopefully we will all be alive let’s see how much you talk about Argentina and their racism after Messi retires from football—-the most terrible humans on earth are not liars or murders they are hypocrites.

🤣😂
Talk about someone being TOTALLY out to lunch!!!
How can you be so clueless as to what is going on?
I'm sure you didn't even vote otherwise you'd have seen that vast majority of Nigerians love Messi. See the poll result below. NIGERIANS LOVE MESSI!!!
I myself have honestly said severally that Messi is the greatest player to ever play the game, followed by Pele.

The difference about Argentina's racism compared to others is that they are OVERTLY racist with no apologies, and PROUD of it!

You also misunderstand - it is NOT a matter of allowing blacks in. It is that they used to be 40% black and by official govt policy they're now near zero - and very proud of it!

franvincoop:
I did not ask you where he was born or pictures of his family or where he grew up or about DNA.
My question to you is very simple.
I am not asking of what Trezeguet considers himself to be because you are his mouthpiece and not me.

You, when you look at David Trezeguet, do you see a white man or a black man?

It's a simple question that needs just a simple answer not paragraphs.

Well, the answer is not as simple as you think. In Argentina he's white because there are officially no black people on Venezuela (see below). In US he is black because officially obvious black ancestry makes you black. In South Africa he'd be considered mixed. To himself he is definitely NOT black like you!

ViceGovernor:
The referee that was in charge of the daylight robbery has just been kicked out of the world cup, they gave it a fanciful name but we all know why he was expelled from the tourney.

He was sent packing 3 hours ago according to my official sources.

Due to the backlash from people like myself and my fellow followers of the real GOAT 🐐 CR7 even FIFA had to make an example of the biased ref.

Now tell me again if Egypt were robbed or not.

Your mentioning CR7 and Messi in same sentence tells me you're not serious.
This person below puts it perfectly.
As for the referee, if true, it is to placate Egyptian president who has been sounding like he's about to have a heart attack!

Flangelo12:
Ronaldo should.be compared with the likes of Alan Shearer, Inzaghi, Schevcheko.
NOT Messi.
What nonsense!

HacheNoire:
What do you know about racism? Nigerians racist?

Nigerians that can eat and drink with anybody! A Nigerian will sit next to anybody irrespective of tribe, colour, religion or ethnicity.

You don’t know what they call racism and why you say Nigerians are racist.

Visit port harcourt and see how Europeans and Americans have almost turned to natives.

Exactly what I've been telling Kobojunkie!
Tribalist, maybe. But racist? No way. Nigerians are the least racist people on earth!

Goo0dHardDick:
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Govt should endeavor to make DNA test compulsory in Nigeria

And if the child turns out not to be the man's will government help the mother raise it?

Zayttoven:
Marriage is a complex institution and thankfully it's not mandatory.

Everyone should do as they please.

Actually it is sort of mandatory. Intense societal and parental pressure make it mandatory

Great100000:
But jokes apart, wetin dey sup. Nigeria is not there. This is no longer funny.

They're just trying to avoid trouble

Kukutente23:
None of those constitute genocide. It can be called discrimination or segregation but definitely not genocide

When you DELIBERATELY force unarmed men to front of war fronts in huge numbers, and you deliberately allow curable epidemics to kill off a whole population (after instituting an official policy of whiteness), yes my dear, it is genocide!

franvincoop:
Why did you not post the whole page of your census search result?

I have only one question to ask you?

Is David Trezeguet a black man or a white man?

David was born in France and obviously considers himself white. Over 10% of Argentinians carry African DNA (all those black women left were having sex) compared to almost zero percent Russians for example. So once in a while a "black" baby will.be born to an otherwise white family. Doesn't mean he considers himself black!

omoredia:
Yes

Funny guy, Playing football is physical labour

franvincoop:
Is David Trezeguet a black man or a white man?
David Trezeguet is an Argentine.

See below
See his family below that

You'll keep asking that till he calls you monkey!😅