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Phraser:
You didn't watch Pele play live, neither did you see him play in many games. What you rely on are "many Pele documentaries" and statistics (which is hardly a reliable way of gauging a footballer's ability), meaning you have no true first-hand empirical knowledge about his ability, and yet you are fully convinced he is the greatest footballer of all time?

Doesn't seem like sound reasoning to me. (At any rate, you are in the minority. Most people choose Messi).

That aside, you said all the "euphoria" around Messi would die down in ten years time. I don't think any right-minded person believes that. Have you seen the man's digital footprint and cultural influence?

If anything, it's Pele's legacy that's at stake—maybe that's why he keeps tinkering with his records on his Instagram page, aware that the world is moving on. The likes of Messi and CR7 were lucky to have played in the social media era, and there are hundreds of clips of them online, unlike Pele whose legacy is solely hinged on word of mouth. 50 more years or so and no one would bother about a player that played in the black-and-white era.

Seems to me like Pele was your football hero growing up and you are stubbornly clinging to the past, because I have read your comments on this thread and have not seen any good arguments from you to back up your claims.

Gbam!!... Arguments fuelled by pain of the massive L Messi served them on a golden platter..Messi be giving haters Migraine

The way all these Pele fans hide their Pele/Messi youngest player to win two world cups cooking pot needs to be studied...Messi really giving Pele worshippers work in the Wikipedia archives...

All this by force Messi trolling
The goat really press their neck with this world cup win...Pele and Tapinaldo fans in the mud

andrewbaba44:
Nothing like disgrace ,na talk you just wan find

I am sure you where quiet when he led Spain to the euros semis and the nations league finals ?

What did Gerard did for England all his career ?

We shouldn’t even talk about all his national team career because he is a first class failure ,let’s talk about his last tournament at the 2014 World Cup

Captain Gerard couldn’t help England qualify ahead of Costa Rica and Uruguay ,man flopped in both games ,it can never be busquets

Spineless Fraudsquets led who to where...
The people carrying busquets retired and the spindly legged fraud could not carry even his own frame...

Fraudsquets retiring after leading Spain to back 2 back world cup disgrace...what else is new

FBS:
How? popi got this one locked down. Ain't no one catching him soon

I forget say popi get Alvarez, I think say na Dani Alves him get based on Old players level...

Guess who's possibly on top of the rankings...FBS do update sharp sharp, popi move over...

popizaino:
I am sure those who rated him above every other midfielders including Xavi were aware of this metrics.

Maybe we should start from 2010 when Xavi lost the UCL semifinals without Iniesta.

Rated by who exactly...
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-10-best-spanish-players-ever

https://www.rookieroad.com/soccer/top-6-best-spain-soccer-players-all-time-3816816/

https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/spain/world-cup-top-10/feature/top-10-spanish-players-of-all-time_156035.html

See sport websites having Xavi above iniesta, this is just from one half of a Google page...Imagine how many I'll find if I actually looked hard..

popizaino:
I asked a specific question you are giving me Ekiti answers. Take this below.

http://acefootball.com/football-news/the-25-best-spanish-players-in-history-have-been-named/


Xavi does not even come close to second. Igimu jina si agbari.

I need to knock your head...Imagine Fraudiola being put in the same sentence as Xavi when it comes to footballing qualities, yet he is 6 and Xavi is 21...

popizaino:
Peak Xavi and iniesta


How come it was only 2010 UCL semifinals they lost in that manner ?

You mean in this manner?...

popizaino:
Which metric are you looking for ?


Fabregas and David Silva and even mata have better career stats than iniesta but none of them is better than him so why is Xavi different?

Barcelona
Spain
La Masia
Real Madrid fans

All rate iniesta above xavi. EOD.

Goals
Assists
Goal contribution in major tournaments
Passing stats
Defensive stats
Which metric let's go...

popizaino:
You have said nothing.

You can't prove it either.

Just be spectator than coming here to form prof on something you know nothing about.

So what did u prove...Okay bring a metric where Iniesta is better than Xavi and no I don't want any stupid affidavit...

Xavi>>Iniesta
Xavi was the system, Only Zidane stops Xavi from being the Goat of midfielders...
Iniesta is in the same level as Modric just a bit better...

Atum came down from Atumma to engage with you puny mortals, and you show no respect...

...No one is buying the crack you're selling here Atum

Omoh stop arguing with this dunderhead OtemAtum apostle... The nigga foolishness is legendary, from here he will start talking about Yahweh and the cages of Atum..

OtemAtum don come with him nonsense agenda...e be like say the guy dey vex say Morocco nor dey recite from the book of Atum...

So because many fulani states practice Sharia law they're not Nigerians again Abi Dem be sharians...Gtfoh with una useless Morocco agenda..Africa is in the Semis baby

Penaldo tears, plug it into my veins...

andrewbaba44:
Vvd wasn’t that bad

I'm talking about the missed penalty...

Omoh I nor fit watch yesterday match, man went to party!!...Heard the goat gave a MOTM performance, shame for VVD tho...Penaldo open to you

Croatia get useless forwards Sha...The only outball they have is that their RB and the guy is really trying in that wing....Brazil to get a goal in extra time

popizaino:
If the goal Suarez scored against Norwich is what we can use to ascertain his greatness in EPL then i'm sorry Suarez isn't all that great.

Who is using Suarez goals against Norwich to judge his greatness?, he has scored against a variety of opponents...The point was to show his immaculate technique and to show that he could score almost any kind of goals with minimum service

andrewbaba44:
Etebo

We can boast of attackers though

Nor be only etebo na ebola...
Iwobi sef na goat but e don improve small..

andrewbaba44:
They will come and use benzema ballon d or and tell us benzema is better

Football sha

Suarez that was competing with prime Messi and cr7

That Liverpool season ehnn ,was to litt ,under Brendan Rodgers if I am not mistaken right ?

People need to rewatch his 4 goal haul against Norwich if you've forgotten what Suarez was capable of....Some of the Best goals in that Epl season and he scored them in one game...

andrewbaba44:
Unpopular opinion

Suarez is a better player than Lewandowski and benzema

Use champions league goals ,ballon d or ,fifa player of the year against am ,I no go still agree with you .

Suarez in 2013/14 still remains the greatest individual season of any premier league player, 31 goals 10 assists in an average Liverpool side despite missing the first 8 games and not playing penalties...
Ditto the season when he scored 40 goals and 16 assists in La Liga, being top scorer and top assister simultaneously...

airmark:
2 V 1 and as the only defender, it was stupid of him to commit early when he was not putting Kane in an offside position. Staying in a position not far away from Kane will force Foden to control the ball and delay that pass to Kane and Foden shooting from outside of the box is better than allowing Kane to shoot from inside of it, with Mendy exposed.

Do you really need to be spoonfed to understand this?

Even kids understand tactics more than dayo...When we were young we use to play this game called game box where to win the team outside the box must pass through the box without being tagged..Sometime the team defending the box finds itself in a 2 v 1 situation and the sensible thing to do is to stay in the middle and not commit to any side so as to give yourself a chance to tag a person trying to pass through, commit to one side and the other guy can just stroll through unmolested..

MorataFC:
Many like to push agenda, no defender buried, dead or alive that can stop any of those players, unless if Foden or Kane made a mistake.

Instead of you pushing your own agenda try to follow the conversation, when VVD defended that same situation, Raumdeuter tried to demean his efforts by saying he was running away...VVD did the only thing he could have done, it worked and rightly won plaudits for it, if he had failed no one would have turned a hair cuz the odds were already stacked against him... It's like a keeper saving a penalty by waiting for the ball to be kicked instead of diving early and instead of winning plaudits for it you start blaming the attacker for what he did not do well..

Just saw an article, what would be your team of the tournament so far, but each team in the Q/Final must have one representative...
Mine is
GK: Bonou
DF: Dumfries T.Silva Gravidol T.hernadez
MF: Bruno Amrambat Bellingham
FW: Messi Richarlison Mbappe
Coach: Van Gaal

raumdeuter:
VVD won 1 CL since the start of last season? Can you show the picture?

Did they give him a trophy for this

Van dijk 1 CL>>>>>>>>Foden 1 million league titles

raumdeuter:
In the same time

Man City with Foden 125 league points
Liverpool with VVD 114 league points

In the same time Van dijk 1 CL and Foden 0 CL, and we all know
1 CL>>>>>>>> 1 million league titles

raumdeuter:
All these needless shalaye happened because SIsoko failed to hit target from a point blank range

Try that with Foden who is a much better shooter and see the result

When VVD faces Foden let him be running away

Van dijk vs Man city since the start of last season...
P5 W3 D2 L0
Foden fvcking who....