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Havertz10:
why is the illegitimacy of the bolded

Talent like some things are subjective....lemme put it like this...mount has more talent in his left toe than you have sense Uncle Jude

donjazet:
That's even understandable if true. Arnold and Robertson are arguably the best full backs in the game currently. They have undoubtedly proven that. It is logical to honor players who are the best in the world in their positions.
Can you honestly beat your chest and say mount is the best in the world in his position??
Moreso, a mural is even understandable and as you pointed out, usually both of them are pointed out, not one without the other

Arnold mural was unveiled after Liverpool won the 2019 CL like mount...the bone of contention is if at that point he had done anything to earn it...why do Van dijk, mane, and Salah not have their own..even origi has a banner to commemorate that famous goal against Barcelona...why should mount as a young talented academy product be begrudged a banner??

donjazet:
I didn't want to say this on Saturday because I wanted to really enjoy our victory. But it has to be said that it didn't sit right with me seeing that 100ft banner of mason mount in the stands which the club unfurled.
Such banners are unfurled for players who have reached a certain status with the club (legendary), but it seems that a section or certain individuals within the club are desperate to make mason mount the face of Chelsea football club and that is my grouse.
Does he really deserve such an honor YET? What has he done separately from the rest of the players?? On what ground is he being singled out as special?? Why elevate him above the rest.

Is it because he is an academy player?? Then what about Reece James, Hudson odoi, Andreas Christensen. Some of who were arguably more instrumental to the club than him. Why does it have to be the local white boy that is singled out and not the rest? Why didn't they make it like "a class of 2015" or something??

Is it his performance?? Lol let's not even go there. His stats for the club so far are very mediocre for an attacker of a big club. I don't actually fault him here. I believe he is developing and as such still has time to improve and start giving us at least a 30 Goals\assists season. But that's the thing, he isn't there yet. So why single him out.

You guys should get this, it's okay for our players to be acknowledged and appreciated but unfurling a 100ft banner goes beyond this. It's a whole different level. It's usually done as a cementing of legendary status. It's something that is done for a very few players and I do not believe that Mason mount deserves that honor yet.

If our captain of this modern era, Cesar Azpilicueta who got to be who he is and where he is by virtue of hardwork, consistency, durability and versatility hasn't got his own banner, then why mason mount?
If our own vice captain, jorginho who has just become the European best player (the first for us) and a top 4 balond'or nominee didn't have a banner, then why mason mount?
Please note that this is not a complaint of Mason mount or a direct comparison with any other player. I recognize that mount has no control over who plans or unveils his banner. I'm calling out the powers that be who made this move. I believe it's a terrible agenda being peddled by a group who is desperate to sell this player as the face of our club. The ones who award him the player of the year when he is obviously not. The influencers who want to overhype his abilities most especially when he hasn't started living up to it.

Again, I do hope and pray he eventually becomes one of the best in the world in his position. One we can all proudly call our own but he isn't yet which is why these moves are premature. All these could even end up having adverse effects on the player vis a vis an overinflated ego or an overwhelming feeling of self importance and being untouchable, not to talk of potential squad disharmony. Of course, these are purely assumptions but we've seen where these kind of things are only catalysts for problems.

I donno about this...Alexander Arnold has a mural outside anfield without being the best player in liverpool...both he and Robertson have huge banners unfurled in the kop during games at anfield...Fans are romantics and he as a local kid embody all the values of Liverpool..I don't see anything wrong with mount having his own banner tbh...

Omoh ice cold c*nt don mk Old man Dayo swallow L...nor be juju be this??

Jodera:
air.mark insisting van dijk absence is the cause of Liverpool loss of form last season is understandable due to the agenda he wants to win to shove the L down people's throat.

But pure Liverpool fans buying that crap??.... Haba!!

Van dijk was not the only reason Liverpool faltered but he was the major one...without Can dijk and the rest defenders they'll probably have finished second comfortably but not enough to win the league...His absence was huge not only due to his importance in the buildup but also the fact that you could pair him with any defender with negligible difference...in summary Liverpool could have done without Van dijk but his absence coupled with Gomez and matip crippled liverpool

Roland17:
I love the fact that you are making a case for logic, I honestly do love it. However, you must be careful in how you analyze logic. Logic in it self does not exist independently. Logic is a product of many factors and sometimes it takes a process before a fact is established and presented as logical.

The evidence is not conclusive but it is admissible and that is why the judge signed his warrant of arrest. Why is it admissible in court? After evaluating the evidence, the judge uses deductive reasoning to determine there is a probable cause linking Abbas to Kyari in terms of the crimes committed.

The Onus is now on the prosecutors to use the evidence available to make an argument that can convince the judge that Kyari is an accomplice. Bare in mind that the prosecutors do not necessarily have to tell the world all the affidavit (evidences) that they are going to use. Do you notice sometimes lawyers are left in shock when lawyers from the opposing side present an evidence that shocks everyone? THE FBI EXPECT KYARI TO DENY! They are prepared for that.

Ummm....prosecutors are warranted to produce all evidence to the defense before arraignment

donstan18:
Not bragging, but I know more about Christianity more than you do.

U know nothing..the act did not happen in a vacuum..if u read that passage you would know that it was his wicked intention for pulling out was why he was killed by God

hensben:
God didn’t ask you to give Him money. “God love a cheerful giver” is for your own good and soul fulfillment. Giving cheerfully should be a life style for every individual, not necessarily you must give in thee church.

Donno why u answer that clown...his type are the ones looking for any avenue to attack the faith of something they say they do not believe it... it's just a shame that the so-called christians that started this dick dragging contest...u do not see the color of your father's pubic hair and go announce it on a radio station cuz he beats your mother

donstan18:
I’ve told you why I don’t fully support the Bible, you used it against me, saying I can’t be a Christian for not supporting all the Bible verses,

How?

In the Bible, God killed someone because he pulled out his prick and ejaculated on the floor.

How do you even support this??

I doubt you even went to any seminary school if that was the only thing u understood from that case in the bible...

arukwe123:
oya kill yourself I just quoted you

Nothing to see here..move along

raumdeuter:
How else can Sterling live up to expectation?
Or let me ask what were the expectations for Sterling and how many attacking players have posted better stats than Sterling both for club and country

According to transfermarkt post Liverpool Sterling played for City 292times, he has 114 goals and 88 assists Despite not being the key penalty shooter, main dead ball shooter

292 games(including sub appearance) over 200 g+a

I will like to know 5 players globally not named Messi and Ronaldo who have posted the same stats or similar in the last 5 seasons. So what exactly is this expectation he has not met?

For National team at this Euro 3 goals 2 assists (How many players have better stats)

If they insult everyone, Sterling and Saka are the least deserving of insults based on this Euros but you know some fans don't think

it's probably has to do with the absurd thinking that black people need to do more than the White's to deserve respect for their achievements

raumdeuter:
How else can Sterling live up to expectation?
Or let me ask what were the expectations for Sterling and how many attacking players have posted better stats than Sterling both for club and country

According to transfermarkt post Liverpool Sterling played for City 292times, he has 114 goals and 88 assists Despite not being the key penalty shooter, main dead ball shooter

292 games(including sub appearance) over 200 g+a

I will like to know 5 players globally not named Messi and Ronaldo who have posted the same stats or similar in the last 5 seasons. So what exactly is this expectation he has not met?

For National team at this Euro 3 goals 2 assists (How many players have better stats)

If they insult everyone, Sterling and Saka are the least deserving of insults based on this Euros but you know some fans don't think

it's probably has to do with the absurd thinking that black people need to do more than the White's to deserve respect for their achievements

arukwe123:
who is this one feeling important??

...if you don't have anything of note to contribute pls don't quote me...peace

Some people need to be banned from using the internet...One foolish sadistic bastard is using this space to promote hate and dangerous agendas...donno why people reply him sef, someone that's just looking for attention.. I've known people like this, once u ignore them they'll crawl back to the hole they came out from

raumdeuter:
While I don't agree with everything Harvetz10 posted up there especially on Sterling. Sterling in particular has been one of England best players in the past 2yrs so his criticism is not performance based. Also calling people monkey is foolish from the fans

I wanted to post something similar yesterday. I remember when Ulli Hoeness criticized Ozil as lazy and most concluded that he was racist and islamophobic recently Ulli has been attacking Kroos a white German with similar lines he used for Ozil. And he hasn't been called racist or any phobia because Kroos is white like him



The question I want to ask, Is it possible to criticise someone of a different race even in vile language and not be racist?

Sport fans are generally silly and emotional. Many athletes have faced this from people of their race. Escobar was killed by his own countrymen for scoring an own goal, In Nigeria Sani Kaita even Ighalo were insulted and called ugly names for fumbling at the world cup, Werner Harvetz and Jorginho have been targeted by fans on this thread

Beckham had to hire bodyguards after getting a red card in France98, Same thing Ronaldo faced after getting Rooney redcarded in 2006

During the Euros Moratas family and children were insulted and threatened with death for missing a penalty so much that Morata had to write about it.

One of the reasons I don't begrudge athletes who demand for top money cos a mistake at work can lead to your death or your family getting injured

There's no sport where their athlete get criticized but there's criticism and there's also criticism... I've seen matches where utd lost and rashford even performed more than their other key players but he keeps being repeatedly singled out for insults cuz of his skin..the cases of ozil and morata still exist but they are isolated cases compared to majority of insult aimed at black people...just look at the case of balotelli, even when he performed for Italy was still being insulted...lastly, I don't want to reply that clown but imagine stanning a player like havertz who flopped for Chelsea but complaining that rashford who scored 21 goals for utd was using the colour of his skin to avoid criticism...just imagine if havertz was black and he dropped some of those performances for Chelsea last season..

andrewbaba44:
How can someone define suffer?

They said super eagles are playing and you are speaking out of point ?

U don c am now abi...when I say mk dem rest e b like say na me b enemy of progress

andrewbaba44:
Lol
Which football club you Dey support Baba ?

And you're interested in this, why??

andrewbaba44:
They have qualified for the next afcon so what are you talking about ? or where you expecting them to win the world cup ?

What football club do you support?

No one expects them to win world cup but I can at least expect to be entertained...after d last two soul crushing friendlies against Cameron and the debacle against might sirea leone..I say no more

andrewbaba44:
How can someone define suffer?

They said super eagles are playing and you are speaking out of point ?

How do you define suffer...u b strong man if the nonsense the so called super chickens have been serving since d last afcon never tire u...

PDPGuy:
Meanwhile.. our Super Eagles are in action today

mk dem go rest...suffer nor dey tire them

Singapore1:
isak is not different from abraham imo

How is isak compared to Abraham...you must not have watched him play...Abraham that has poor ball control and cannot even dribble a man to save his life and even poorer decision making...watch isak against Spain during their first match and tell me how he's comparable to Abraham..the only comparison I can see is the color of their skin

This isak of Sweden is a fantastic footballer o...good ball control and dribbling in tight spaces, fantastic positioning and pretty good passes too...just scored 17 goals for real socieldad in la liga and has been very impressive for sweden at the euros.. don't know why many clubs looking for strikers are not looking closer at him

Havertz10:
I didn't Bleep my uncle's wife, let's say i'm even the jude I use nairaland to mess around with people's head a lot, tried different experiments to see how people will react, some lies, some drama, I always survived all the dramas because it was all a show, an act, a game to see how much fire you could socially ignite

If jude that is known by the few smart ones to be capable of lying, why do you believe this story and call me a liar for the others


You are not smart, cant you see?

I enjoy messing around with people's heads and I love arguments, I fake being stupid to give you an edge and encourage people like you that are not smart to keep coming at me, why do you dislike me? I created the dislike you think you developed


I still dey wait for the undisclosed sources of revenue

See wetin person dey open mouth talk...tueh!!!

raumdeuter:
Pep wasn't chopping 7-0 and 8-2. That was Barcelona with Messi without Pep

So it's ok to be chopping 5 as long as it's not 7 abi...good to know...no wonder even pep called himself fraudiola for not winning Ucl

raumdeuter:
Was Neymar not the one who led the remontada vs psg? Beating them 6-1. Where was Messi? Was he waiting for Pep?

Messi was too busy humiliating boateng and pep on the way to their 5th Ucl...again why did pep not stop madrid, barca and real madrid from humiliating him??

raumdeuter:
This season he beat Man utd on the way to it despite them spending close to Pep

Man utd spent 1bn..apari bring receipt or forever remain silent

raumdeuter:
1 CL with one of the best attacking trios in football
Since Neymar left Barcelona football club don turn Barcelona Cricket club

With Messi in full attendance

Was Neymar not there when they got thrashed by Psg 4-0, and Juventus 3-0 in the next round..abi Suarez d other member of the attacking trio not there 4 d rest humiliation...why did pep the saver of football not stop himself from being humiliated by madrid, barca and liverpool??

raumdeuter:
He was lucky in it. One of the finals he won via penalties because Kepa refused to leave the post

He has beaten Chelsea Man utd and other top spenders to win the Carabao cup as well. Why is money not working for those

What of the other 3 times...Stop shifting the goalpost...since pep last won Ucl Chelsea and liverpool has won it without spending 1bn...or are u trying to say he spent 1bn just to become serial carabao cup winners??

raumdeuter:
In a knockout competition anyone can get a lucky run

Lyon made the CL semi, Roma made the CL semi, Monaco made the semi kindly remind us of their managers and where they are coaching currently. Maybe top clubs didn't remember to call them and offer them jobs

Is carabao cup not a knockout competition...how is it that pep can win it 4 straight times but spent 1bn just o lose his only Ucl final disgracefully...abi luck nor dey carabao cup...stop defending d bald fraud jor

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Open business, Open business ...

You lots screaming open a business don't know the challenges of running one in Nigeria.

The environment for a business to thrive in Nigeria is discouraging. From thinking about how to get power, to security, to bad roads.....the list is endless.

Most people resort to importation because local production is difficult and more expensive.

But let me guess...It's the fault of the citizens, not leaders.[/color]

Exactly...I guess this was the same ignorant mentality that made that Old man in Aso Rock
to call Nigerians youths lazy...No amount of finger pointing will get around the fact that this government is a failure of epic proportions.. they said they were coming to address Boko Haram and added herdsm en conflict join..

Havertz10:
oil price dropped world wide since 2015, many people pretend like they don't know this, a country that exports mostly crude oil 86% is solely dependent on crude oil value, we aren't a market maker in the field, so we can't determine the price or volume in the market, saudi Arabia and Russia had a fight recently and they loaded the market with product, it crashed to negative figures, those market makers agree on what quantity they will put out to balance their budget, we are passengers that follow their directions

We make little money from oil and use some of the money to subsidize petrol prices for customers because our purchasing power of Nigerians is low, 200m Nigerians, most countries that depend on crude oil don't have our population numbers, Venezuela has only 28m people and have more oil than any country in the world, 2015 oil crash destroyed their economy, Nigeria with 200m is supposed to survive that?

If he prints more money, Inflation will rise and una go blame buhari, if he doesn't price of goods will still rise because Nigerians don't follow good business practices, major distributors are used to our volatile market and many of them hoard products to create artificial scarcity

Rice was a good idea but a bad plan because we don't have the production level required yet, he should have waited till Nigerian rice could match quantity and quality of the ones imported and beat it with price, can even subsidize the price of rice to kill importation, when local production becomes self sufficient with enough capacity to provide for Nigerians, tax them to recover the subsidies back and rice importation will die a natural death

As for dollar price, government can't do anything about that cause if you keep prioritizing foreign goods over local goods, you are going to put pressure on the naira, if more people are selling a currency, it's value will keep dropping especially when nobody is buying the currency to purchase goods from Nigeria

All this plenty shalaye with no point in sight.. continue forming public defender for this stupid government...Buhari and his aides did not know all this before promising 1dollar to naira during their campaigns...Are you Mr Elliot in disguise??

patrickmuf:
Arnold is very weak defensively...If not for the stupidity of Ayew, Palace wouldn't be 3 goals down. Rashford should target TAA, he is the weak link in that Liverpool team, it's the reason I prefer Robertson because he balances his defensive and attacking play.

He'll probably be too busy defending his own box than targeting any perceived weak link

Not Van dijk making Fifa top 10 players again..abeg who get this mail