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Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 10:28am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
Can you imagine what you are relying on to argue?

Go and read the actual court complaint. I am sure you won't make any of these wrong arguments after that.

What is this one saying?

Isn't it the exact court document?

Say you didn't read it and stop playing possum.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 10:10am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
Which document are you reading?

Go and read the complaint. The one presented to the grand jury. It was clearly stated that total payments to the account number sent by Kyari were 8 million. At this point, I have to say you are talking trash. Pull 8 million out of the air? So people just invented 8 million or you think we are relying on summary like you? Go and read the complaint before engaging further in defending Kyari.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/07/hushpuppi-see-court-documents-indicting-abba-kyari-others/

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 10:09am On Jul 31, 2021

KanuSE:
As per this current case, Hush's legal team would be obliged to give a detailed description of the nature of the business as understood by all parties involved. This would definitely establish the criminal presence of mind on the part of the accused.

Whether or not Kyari understood the use of English 'Job' in this context has already been tested and proven by his culpability, especially in the manner he played his part as opposed to the code of practice of the Nigerian police.

Kyari's legal team would be unprofessional and foolish to want to tender a case of ignorance before the court or any panel whatsoever. We all know that ignorance is never an excuse in the court of law.

Nobody is going to tender ignorance.

A petition was raised and action was taken.

No bill was sent but what was explicitly stated was Hushpuppi wanting to mobilise the police team by funds.

This isn't common practice the police would claim but it hardly translates into collaborative efforts for perpetrating of a crime.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:53am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
What then was the motive for collecting 8 million or retaining the devices seized from Chibuzor after he was released (at Hushpuppi's request, by the way).

It is obvious you didn't read the case.

And no, job is not job. Even the FBI is aware of the slang usage and again, if you read the screenshot you will see that it's obvious that the "job" was illegal.

Abba Kyari is not known to be a fraudster save for this case which we are debating.

Job means what it means and cannot trump its regular usage unless it can be proven the users are members of a society whereby that is common usage.

You'll be chasing your tail with that one.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:50am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
What then was the motive for collecting 8 million or retaining the devices seized from Chibuzor after he was released (at Hushpuppi's request, by the way).

It is obvious you didn't read the case.

And no, job is not job. Even the FBI is aware of the slang usage and again, if you read the screenshot you will see that it's obvious that the "job" was illegal.

You are the one pulling out 8 million Naira from thin air.

In fact from the court papers Overt Act 41: it was explicitly stated by Hushpuppi he wants Chibuzor arrested.

Overt Act 50: wishes to send money to the police team for the arrest of "the armed robber".

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:41am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
Hushpuppi said "Message the job". Job is a well known slang for scam. Go back and read the screenshot again. Stop trying to be clever by half.

Job is job.

Slang used on the street doesn't trump its proper usage.

Hushpuppi was widely purpoted to be a real estate developer and social media influencer.

At the time, there was nothing to explicitly state the nature of the business.

Whatever your parlance might be, it doesn't trump common usage.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:38am On Jul 31, 2021

KanuSE:
How circumspect could kyari have been - what was the #8m payment for?

Again, does the 8m show up in the court document?

Stick to the points that can be proven not what you wish or gain from the rumour mill.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:36am On Jul 31, 2021

[quote author=einsteine post=104273033][/quote]But why are you like this?

Is there any doubt business was involved?

If business was involved wouldn't there be a money component?

If money was discussed does this explicitly determine the nature of the business?

You go school na.
huh

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:32am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
I am not going to do your work for you. It's a PDF document. Go and read it.

You allege, you prove.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:30am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
Stop lying.

We read the document. He collected money. Kept the person without charging him to court for a month. Asked Hushpuppi to explain what really happened and got a detailed voice note from Hushpuppi that Vincent is trying to divert a fraud deal.

Stop making excuses for someone who is supposed to prevent crime but was helping to enforce same.

You are the one concluding on the fraud component of the deal.

This was never explicitly stated in the voice note but Kyari should have been more circumspect. More so than any regular Joe might be.

Yet not being circumspect doesn't make one an accomplice.

In any case, Kyari has besmirched the name of the Nigeria Police Force (make of that what you may) and as a result, Kyari should be summarily dismissed.

He can fight his case of extradition when that time comes.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:26am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
Actually it was stated explicitly. Maybe you should go read the complaint.

Can you print out the excerpt where the nature of the business was discussed?

Celebrities › Re: Rachel Oniga Is Dead! Nollywood Actress Dies Age 64 by Commentor: 9:25am On Jul 31, 2021

celiaodeu:
damn... What is going on?

Death.

Celebrities › Re: Rachel Oniga Is Dead! Nollywood Actress Dies Age 64 by Commentor: 9:25am On Jul 31, 2021

May her soul rest in peace.

Nairaland General › Re: Veteran Nollywood Actress Rachel Oniga Is Dead by Commentor: 9:25am On Jul 31, 2021

Oh no.

She was indeed a proper thespian.

May her soul rest in peace.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 9:23am On Jul 31, 2021

einsteine:
Yes, he asked Hush what is really happening and Hush sent him a detailed voice note.

The voice note explains he has business he is conducting but not the explicit nature of the business.

Education › Re: Aggrieved Student Leaves ‘Sacrifice’ In Lecturer’s Office In Michael Okpara Univ by Commentor: 9:22am On Jul 31, 2021

armadeo:
Weak jazz.

Egg and palm oil.no dey?

Me sef I dey wonder.

Na weak deity them make am for.

The deity of jokes.

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Education › Re: Aggrieved Student Leaves ‘Sacrifice’ In Lecturer’s Office In Michael Okpara Univ by Commentor: 9:21am On Jul 31, 2021

chatinent:
E no pass a boy named Ndubuisi.

I thought as much.

But his brother Chinedu is graduating with first class from the same department.
grin

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Education › Re: Nigerian Sprinter Okagbare Suspended From Tokyo Games After Positive Drug Test by Commentor: 8:35am On Jul 31, 2021

Wetin dey worry Okagbare na?

huh

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 8:15am On Jul 31, 2021

Seerade029:
Boss, if you know FBI ehn.
1. He released a statement about clothes, hope you know they've marked the comment?

2. He received proceedings from someone to jail someone

3. He didn't investigate the source of money or he didn't investigate the situation b4 Jailing.

Anyways, he should be dismiss from service.
Cos, the Case is not clean and he was involved not in the fraud, but illegal jailing, illegal money and not doing investigation.

BTW, hope you know FBI can intercept phone calls and messsgs?

They can't intercept any call without a court warrant.

They can't decrypt any WhatsApp message unless as seen on someone's phone in plain text.

If Kyari has deleted his WhatsApp messages, they can only rely on what they can see on Hushpuppi's phone.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 8:11am On Jul 31, 2021

luizpippo:
Without Kyari, Chibuzor would have collected the "so-called job" and those ladies US accounts won't have seen a penny.

How about that?

That doesn't change anything.

The ladies were willing participants.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 8:10am On Jul 31, 2021

Oju4190:
4 d fact dat Abbas recommended his tailor to hush....it shows dat both are very very close.....Well just for d records OLISA METUH also received funds from the proceeds of crime

Yes.

But in this case, Kyari really didn't.

His crime is detaining an individual without cause.

He should be dismissed from the force for bringing it into disrepute.

His extradition is another case entirely.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 8:07am On Jul 31, 2021*

BarrSly:
Try reading the FBI indictment affidavit Page 51.. Hush expressly told him what he wanted to do and the full details of the business..

I read it and the nature of the business was never explicitly stated to Kyari.

If you say otherwise, provide the excerpt.

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Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 8:06am On Jul 31, 2021*

Seerade029:
Sure it could not be the case.
But you know everyone will want to be clean.

So far, I think Chibuzor is the one that can come out clean or not entirely clean.
He can say he's website developer and knows nothing about the fraud, that, that's his business.

Actually, Kyari and Juma are the ones who could claim ignorance.

Kyari simply acted as an enforcer on behalf of Hushpuppi but he can claim he did this unwittingly.

As far he knew, he was petitioned to arrest Chibuzor who was trying to defraud his client.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 8:01am On Jul 31, 2021

luizpippo:
Without Kyari, Hush and those ladies won't have been indicted for this particular case.

The ladies based in the US, provided bank accounts through which the victim paid money.

They can hardly be exonerated.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 7:58am On Jul 31, 2021

Seerade029:
Exactly
And Chibozor in his defense will say he was contacted to do business of website and he notice that it was scammed and he wanted to exposed

That's true, except it was stated in the court document that Chibuzor claimed he could do the job better for the victim.

Clearly we know this could not be the case.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 7:57am On Jul 31, 2021*

BarrSly:
In law there is something called ‘CONSPIRACY, OBTAINING PROCEEDS OF KNOWN FRAUD & ACCESSORY AFTER THE FACT’...... Kyari was aware that Chibuzor will spoil the deal so Kyari and Hush CONSPIRED to lock him up so Hush could successfully con the man (the offense of conspiracy has been proven)....

Kyari asked Hush what Chibuzo did and Hush told Kyari how Chibuzo was disturbing his potential victim in otherwords Kyari is an ACCESSORY AFTER the fact that Hush plans to con a person...

After the lock up of Chibuzo, Hush successfully got some cash from the victim and Kyari got 8M I.e obtaining proceeds of fraud....

He will be prosecuted on a three count charge..

1. Conspiracy

2. Obtaining proceeds of fraud

3. Accessory after the fact

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It wasn't explicitly stated what business Hushpuppi was transacting.

Before his arrest, Hushpuppi was widely touted to be a Real estate investor and social media influencer.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 7:54am On Jul 31, 2021

LandMann:
I am 100% certain it's a goat's brain they'll find inside your skull if they break it open.

1. Did Abba Kyari know that Hushpuppy is scamming somebody and Chibuzor is trying to prevent that from happening?

2. Did Abba Kyari send account details to Hushpuppy after doing the job of detaining Chibuzor which enabled Hushpuppy to successfully scam the victim?

Maybe these questions will open your eyes.

But I'm sure your eyes and brain will remain shut if you are one of those the bribe gobbling cop has paid to clean his image on social media. Enjoy your dirty job.

Don't be stupid.

Once again, I reiterate, Kyari should be dismissed from the force but calling him an accomplice is wrong.

The nature of business was not disclosed either in excerpts of the conversation between Hushpuppi and Kyari.

Except you can show where this was clearly stated.

Next time learn to be rational and not sentimental.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 7:43am On Jul 31, 2021

PointZerom:
Kyari arrested Chibuzor to keep him incommunicado with the businesses person and to recover the said money that Chibuzor intercepted and was handsomely paid for a job well done. Try to understand.

There is no evidence to this fact.

Chibuzor was stated in the document we've seen, to be selling the idea of being the one who could help the victim obtain the funds.

Certainly, Chibuzor was attempting to defraud the victim.

Kyari from what we've read, had no contact with the victim.

Didn't provide an account for payment to the victim.

He did however illegally detain Chibuzor, receive funds for the inhumane treatment of an individual.

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Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 7:39am On Jul 31, 2021

Avedonn:
By dismissing him from the force and extradite him to the US to answer for his crimes.

He should be dismissed from the force.

His extradition might be a mater of interpretation by a competent court of law.

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Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 7:38am On Jul 31, 2021

LandMann:
Does that not make him an accomplice to crime and does he not deserve to be tried like the other thieves and sent to jail if found guilty?

Why d hell are you dumnfucks defending the stupid Nigerian policeman who has disgraced the entire nation with this shameful act?

I wish I wasn't sharing the same country with you all because you guess are damn senseless and not ready to see this country get better

Don't ever call names you don't wish yourself.

I am stating clearly. Kyari's case is circumstantial and your being sentimental wouldn't allow you see it.

He should be dismissed from the police force but saying he's an accomplice is placing it too far.

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Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 7:36am On Jul 31, 2021

CryptoRepublic1:
They had nothing,chibuzor got greedy and ratted on hush and hush got scared and started singing.

Kyari has nothing to do with fbi and I do not support the idea of fbi taking Africans that has nothing to do with USA, if they are us citizens or lived in the US then fine but if not then they should fkuc off.

Agreed.

Kyari's k-leg is receiving supposedly known "proceeds of crime " .

From what we see, he never contacted the victim, neither did he provided a conduit for the movement of cash.

He should be dismissed from the Police Force and then he fights his case against extradition if necessary.

Crime › Re: Breakdown Of FBI Investigation On Hushpuppi And Abba Kyari. by Commentor: 7:28am On Jul 31, 2021

PointZerom:
Believe me FBI may have more damaging facts against Kyari. It seems Kyari is a backup for Hush. If he tries to go there, he's in for it and more facts will come up.

What backup?

FBI is not interested in Kyari more than they are Chibuzor.

The only reason Kyari is making headlines is because of his profile.

In the grand scheme of things, he's no more important than Bolatito.

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