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How can you not like Soludo

Visionary Leaders are lit

Nice2023:
It is even hard to trust APC let alone Tinubu and his useless officials.

...but when Otti said he would start paying that from Oct1 onward, you believed,right?

You believe a State Governor that didnt even pay the last 30k minimum wage over the FG that doesnt joke with that?


Hypocrisy everywhere

Dry bones shall rise again

This man na talk and do. He's giving his all to ensure the masses are happy with him.

Its even immediately sef, from Sept24....Just wow

I'm happy for the Civil Servants.

It was actually $20million and Ngozi can attest to that

GEJ don dey suffer from Amnesia

GEJ oversaw the most corrupt regime ever in Nigeran presidency history

Stella Oduah and Alison Madueke were the biggest beneficiary

Ashawo sabi disgrace people ehn

Dem go wash your linen for market square

Why vein con full her hand like that

Useless comment from a Useless person

Thanks for your useless contributions, Bwala

Anabosee:
One coin for 4 dollars, na today I go buy house for Abuja area 1

I'm happy for you,bro
What a year for you!!!

So, na our own dem create last

It is well

Na only the secretary general remain. Just imagine the kinda fear he'd be living in

Israel tho...They've been eliminating enemies since 2000BC, its not wrong to assume that they are a legend in this game

HIGHESTPOPORI:
How would you see Edo person complaining when you are typing from Ogun state?

Aisha Yesufu and most notable Edolites havent said via the SM about the Election outcome

If their silence doesnt mean "Yes", then read more on how Logic and human actions work

Wisdomkosi:
The name of the person making this statement is Okachukwu Dibia. It's shows that he doesn't even know his origin. 🤦🤦🤦

Samuel Peter is Jewish, since he bears a Hebrew name

It would be a dream come true

I cant wait to have you guys go your own way

Igbos are a major tribe in Nigeria with a huge population, but its funny how they care so much about being accepted by everyone.

Its damning seeing see this tribe trying to force others to identify with them. Like, these small groups should be forcing the affiliations, you


Well...the unnecessary urge to brag about anything and propensity to seek public validations at all times, are signs of chronic and deep Inferiority complex

80 years is a whole lot

Lived his life as a Senator, A Governor and now a King.

Not even he would have written a fictional script with this kinda life fulfillment for one Character

Happy Birthday to him

Just wondering what Nigeria would look like if these Social Media guys were at the helm of affairs. I guess all oppositions would have been killed and jailed. A situation worse than Genghis Khan's dictatorial reign


I still havent seen any Edo person complain about the election outcome. Not even the Aisha Yesufu

Its then safe to assume who these "Nigerians on SM" are . Bitter wailers

I can correctly guess the tribe of that NAFDAC page handler

Man thought its an ethnic war. Shitty handler

Whether it happened now or not, its normal to sensitize people about their environment and how much they have to look out for fake product sellers like that Emeka

kay4kay:
This is an airport for private jet owners in.ogun. the cargo na scam

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And how do you know this?

Bitterness is a terrible trait

Free your mind from hate

Like the Saints, The SouthWest Nigeria keeps marching on

I'm more concerned about the caption, abi na tweet sef

Who goes about life see unfairness in everything. A shitty mindset to live with


Ask the losers of this election, they'd also feel the umpire was biased

Cheers to the winners

You created your own happiness before the result was announced. To be honest, thats the best way to navigate life.

To Edolites, this election reflects what they really want, cause I've never seen any Edo person till date lament about the outcome

The lamenters have been the

Not even Aisha Yesufu claimed any mandate was stolen cause she's in sync with the reality on ground

God Bless Mahmood Yakubu

God1000:
Our people still do this

Does it matter?

Those that were dedicated to God in heaven, dem no still dey do ritual, dey carry drugs?

I saw a news on the frontpage yesterday where some Masquerades from Nigerian-Uzbeskistan region killed two people

Thing is, our traditions shouldnt be put aside for anything

Live and let live abeg.

Dedicated to something or not, nothing go change.

I like Soludo

Now, this is a Stats to believe, not that Statisense nonsense


I expect to see those who do not understand how to draw sound deductions from Statistical figures to come here to gnash their teeth

These are the most commonly eaten food in Nigeria, by population, we have thousands of people eating these everyday.

Its only normal to expect extortionists and greedy traders to keep hiking the prices of these goods, even when the prices have dropped at a wholesales market level

These traders/foodstuff sellers are our biggest problems

Confusedlady

JessicaRabbit:
I was warned that my post was "too long", so here's PART 2 of my original reply:



This position undermines the primary argument for intelligent design, which often relies on the premise that complexity cannot arise through natural processes. As for your assertion that natural selection explains "small changes and adaptations within species" but not the "origin of life and the emergence of large systems," I'd argue that this distinction is arbitrary and does not have any empirical basis, so I'm not really sure how you came up with that. The scientific consensus is clear: natural selection, coupled with genetic drift, mutation, and gene flow, has been instrumental in shaping the diversity of life on Earth. As for your claim that "the fundamental complexity of life itself suggests a higher design": this is where the argument from ignorance creeps in. Just because we currently don't fully understand the origins of life or the emergence of complex systems doesn't mean we must invoke supernatural explanations. The scientific community is actively exploring alternative explanations, such as abiogenesis, RNA world hypothesis, and others. I'll continue to repeat this obvious banality until it finally registers on your subconscious.

I wish i could tag 4 more people to assist me, so that all our arguments combined could overwhelm you the way yours currently overwhelms me

For the bolded, we've talked about it before and thats why i have said it multiple times that its a draw. Its not my fault that they've been unable to come up with that and as far as today is concerned, the GAP is there and that means both the Scientists and Theists can share the spoils here, both have tried enough but have failed to prove their claims(I know you'd come here to tell us how only the Theists have the burden of proof on themselves)

I've mentioned this draw multiple times but it seems you are hell bent on winning

The quotes you've cited here only serve to highlight the universe's governable principles and organization. Okay, cool. But this is merely a statement of an obvious fact. Once again, this doesn't even come close to establishing a supernatural designer. The laws of physics, while remarkable, are just the rules of the game. They don't explain why the game is being played. You're working with guesses and assumptions based on gaps in knowledge which is the very definition of an ad ignorantiam fallacy. [b][/b]. As for Einstein, he was a pantheist and his views were mostly inspired by Spinoza, and Spinoza's philosophy, as outlined in his work "Ethics," describes God or Nature as a unified, underlying substance that governs the universe through necessary laws and principles, rather than through purposeful design or intervention. Einstein's own views on the nature of God and the universe closely mirrored this perspective.



You can't just commit a fallacy and handwave the fact like it doesn't matter. We call them fallacies because they're flaws in logical reasoning that can undermine your entire argument. The term "Grand Design" can refer to the elegant laws and structures of the universe, not necessarily implying a designer. There's a subtle difference there. If you observe closely, many scientists who use that term do not even endorse intelligent design or creationism outrightly. They may just use the term as a colorful expression in a literature. It doesn't matter how many scientists you can selectively quote in isolation to make your point, you are still ignoring the broader scientific consensus supporting natural evolution and cosmology.

At this point, I'm compelled to ask you: what is the difference between design by a designer and the appearance of undesigned elements?

The fact that you agreed that these things have elegant designs and that no one designed them is even funny

In all your excellent reasoning, how do you manage to convince yourself of all these?


I really dont want to go deep into this even though I'm sure I would have a stronger argument on it but I've badly been resisting the temptations to delve into that kinda discussion, cause that would make the discussing tilt further towards pure Philosophy than Science and I'm worried you'd destroy me in that aspect. Just answer that question please, and dont add your philosophical explanations to it abeg



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We already know that dictionaries are human creations, compiled through meticulous effort and intelligence. How do we know this? Because we have witnessed the creation of dictionaries. We know how they're made and we know that the processes involved are repeatable. So the analogy in this question is dead on arrival because it is predicated on a false equivalence. The universe is much greater and larger in scope than a human dictionary. According to our current understanding of physics and human knowledge, the universe's evolution from the Big Bang is well-supported by scientific evidence and our understanding of natural laws, and it is the best theory we've got so far to explain how our universe came to be. If you've got something better, you'll have to show it..

The bolded here has nothing to do with our current discussion. You keep digressing into different topics needlessly and i guess its all in a bid to show me how much you know

I bumped into a few of your debates with one guy where you two argued about the Big Bang and the possibility of all elementary particles being created by materialization of high energy(E=mc2). I didnt follow the argument to know where it ended or who won and i also dont know how excellent his points were, but I know i have bigger arguments on it. I even have a higher argument on St Aquinas Five proofs,more than even he explained but...

I just dont wanna shift the goal posts from Biology to Physics and philosophy as the whole thing would become disorganized, so please, learn to stay on point. Put Big Bang and all your Philosophical theories on"A design without a designer".

Just ensure you answer that my question tho.

Actually, the theory of evolution doesn't propose that life emerged randomly or spontaneously. It only suggests that life arose through a series of chemical reactions and interactions governed by physical and chemical laws. It relies only on the predictable outcomes of these laws. I mentioned this in previous posts, but the conditions on early Earth were very different from those today, with a reducing atmosphere, intense radiation, and frequent chemical reactions.

The first bolded, What page in Darwin's "On the Origin of Species" talked about the rise of life from Physical and Chemical reactions?
I cant remember Darwin writing on that.

I want a straightforward answer on this, not some long explanations cause it seems you're mixing Millers experiment with Darwins theory

Or do you mean to say that Miller's experiment can be used as the source and Origin of Darwins theory? And if yes, then I was also tryna use any of either Sponteneous Generation theory or the Abiogenesis. I'm not confusing two diff concepts for each other. I'm doing the same thing you did here




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As for the "organic soup", that concept is mostly outdated. Research suggests life likely emerged in hydrothermal vents or other environments with energy gradients. Nucleotides and proteins aren't complicated substances that suddenly appeared; they're the result of gradual chemical evolution. Calculating probabilities for these events definitely won't be easy due to the vastness of time, chemical diversity and complexity of interactions involved. However, scientists have demonstrated in experiments and simulations that (1) simple organic compounds can form through abiogenic processes,

And this Abiogenesis have too many limitations like
1) However, he got just 4 of the 20 amino acids needed for life to exist(Didnt get all 20)
2) Without oxygen, cosmic rays would have destroyed the first amino acid, which would never have begun in the presence of oxygen in the atmosphere.
3. Miller was only able to salvage the four amino acids he obtained by taking them out of the spark's path. The spark would have broken them down if he had left them there.
4)if it is assumed that amino acids somehow reached the oceans and were protected from the destructive ultraviolet radiation in the atmosphere, Beneath the surface of the water there would not be enough energy to activate further chemical reactions; water in any case inhibits the growth of more complex molecules.
It is therefore hard to see how polymerization [linking together smaller molecules to form bigger ones] could have proceeded in the aqueous environment of the primitive ocean, since the presence of water favors depolymerization

Lets even ignore the Stereochemistry, is that the theory you passed as your proof for origin of life? We discussed this already and even Scientists agree theses still a lot of works to do. but as per the Zealot , I'm sure you dont mind holding on to that if that would help you render the biblical God nonexistent

!)1We know this ended on Probabilities that (2) RNA and DNA nucleotides can assemble and replicate without enzymes, and that (3) Vesicles and membranes can self-assemble from lipid molecules. The probability of life emerging may be low, but definitely not impossible.

Lets consider something: I know say you go still call am "Analogy of false equivalence": Is there any possibility that the right amino acids will combine to form a protein molecule?

Lets compare it to having a large, well-mixed mound with an equal amount of white and red beans. Additionally, there are more than 100 distinct kinds of beans. What do you think you would receive if you stuck a scoop into this pile right now? To obtain the beans that symbolize the fundamental parts of a protein, You would have to pick up just red beans—no white ones at all— Additionally, there can only be 20 different kinds of red beans in your scoop, and each one needs to be at a predetermined spot in your scoop.
When it comes to proteins, even the slightest error in any one of these specifications would prevent the protein from functioning as intended. In our fictitious bean pile/mound, how much swirling and scooping would have produced the right combination? None. How, therefore, could it have happened in the made-up organic soup or whatever theory you rely on?



How likely is it that you will randomly get all of these?
A chance out of 1040,000! According to Astronomer Fred Hoyle, there is "an outrageously small probability" that would be impossible to confront, even if the cosmos were made entirely of organic soup. The assumption that life arose [spontaneously] on Earth is completely eliminated by this straightforward computation, he continues, if one is not biased by societal mores or scientific expertise.†

However, mathematics reject as unreal any event with a chance of only 1050. The fact that 1040,000 is greater than the projected total number of atoms in the universe gives an indication of the odds, or probability, involved.

The fact that you actually think we really need to consider these figures that are greater than what Mathematics dismisses, greater than any Statistical probabilities, just to cancel out the creation story, shows you care only about disproving the Intelligent design thingy and not really because you read all this with an open and subjective mind. We all arent being sincere here then

At best, we could sideline both theories and hope that Science comes up with something more intelligible in the future, not desperately agreeing to every concepts that broke some science and Maths law just to prove God doesnt exist

Looking at your bullet points, I can take a good guess where you're going with each of those points but I'll wait to see if you might surprise me this time.

Dont beat me with experience, Please if theres any of those points you've debated with anyone here on NL, just lemme know so i can remove that very particular topic



If a spontaneous beginning for life is to be accepted as scientific fact, it should be established by the scientific method. This has been described as follows: Observe what happens; based on those observations, form a theory as to what may be true; test the theory by further observations and by experiments; and watch to see if the predictions based on the theory are fulfilled.


Now, all the theories you know, In an attempt to apply the scientific method, it has not been possible to observe the spontaneous generation of life. There is no evidence that it is happening now, and of course no human observer was around when evolutionists say it was happening. No theory concerning it has been verified by observation. Laboratory experiments have failed to repeat it. Predictions based on the theory have not been fulfilled. With such an inability to apply the scientific method, is it honest science to elevate such a theory to the level of fact?

A failure campaigned for a loser, what do you expect? Premium loss, of course

“There’s a perception that the government isn’t doing enough, but the truth is much more has been done. It's their responsibility to go out there and showcase the work of their ministries.”

This is actually true

You'd have to dig really deep to see what PBAT is doing and the truth is, he's done alot thats gone unreported

Its dumb keeping incompetent people around. Especially those that are supposed to handle the Governements media account

A bad PR is a very horrible thing and I'm glad to see his address this quickly

Congrats to her once again

Many years of hard and diligent work has paid off finally

This is like the VC in the institution of her Law