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The plan to build the third temple has been on for many years now yet they are still planning as we speak without no action? They can never build it oh. Good Easu was also wealthy but how did he served Jacob? |
Studying theology doesn't mean u know the scriptures rather only the Holy Spirit can give accurate knowledge of God. Theology is simply a recycling of human wisdom based on mental knowledge. The Isrealites has never for once sincerely obeyed God. They run from one idol to another. They only submit to God whenever they are in trouble and hates hearing the raw truth from God. The destruction of the temple is another reason to prove that God is no longer at peace with them. If they were still enjoying God's presence as before that mosque would have been destroyed a long time ago. And even if they decide to leave the mosque, they would have built the third temple. U will agree with me that there are many locations where they can build the temple in Jerusalem and the money to build it isn t the problem. But they cant just build it beause the glory of God has left them. Yes Easu and Jacob are the spiritual fathers of the entire human race. Where u not taught in theology that God said Easu will serve Jacob? Can u show me in the Bible where Easu served Jacob? Jacob was great and weathy but was Easu not also great and wealthy? Or can u show me where the descendants of Easu serve Isreal? U can go ahead to say whatever u wish to say about OLUMBA OLUMBA OBU but i will tell that His Name, Identity and Mission on earth was revealed many years before His birth even those who do not believe in Him will tell u the truth of what happened before He was born |
That ur explanation about Matthew 21:33-43 is totally wrong. The Kingdom that taken away from Isreal was not the physical kingdom or nation of Isreal but the very Kingdom of God. The kingdom or nation of Isreal were always in captivity to other nations even before Christ was born. The Kingdom of God was taken away from them because of their unbelief and numerous sins. Christ when the Father comes He will take away His kingdom from Isreal and give it to another nation. Isreal was privileged to be known in time as the people of God but they lost out because of sin and unbelief. Isreal as a nation does not believe in God because they rejected Christ and still rejects Him. Isreal is not the Kingdom of God on earth. Easu and Jacob became the spiritual fathers of the whole human race in God's sight. God divided the human race into two parts and Easu and Jacob became the spiritual father for each human race. As for the universal manifestation of Christ on the last day, i am 100% sure u are one of those that will run to the mountain and plead with it to crush u because u can't behold His face when He revealed as OLUMBA OLUMBA OBU sitting on the Throne to judge the world because of all the awful things u said about Him |
What it mean when the Bible He came from Bozrah the capital of Edom? Did u remember that the same Isaiah said that Our Lord Jesus Christ will be descendant of David? If i may ask u, who is Jacob/Iseal and Easu/Edom? |
Since Bozrah a descendant of Easu/Edom is located in a country called Jordan, are u then saying that Jordan is in eastern Isreal? I also want u to remember that Jerusalem was already captured and ruled by the Romans when Christ made that statement. Even Christ was sentenced to death by Pilate a Roman governor and crucified by Roman soldiers. |
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I have asked u seveal questions about the Holy Spirit but u didn't give any answer. I have asked u again about Isaiah 63 where Christ came as Edomite but instead of giving a clear and dirct answer, u are busy looking for mistakes to cover up. Read ur Bible properly for more understanding. God is no longer going to manifest in Isreal again. The reign of Jacob/Isreal has ended and its time for Easu to reign. Do u think Christ was drunk or lieing when He said that His Father who will come into the world will take His kingdom away from Isreal and give to another nation? |
Sorry i meant to type black as there are blacks in Bozrah. U didn't say anything about Christ coming from Bozrah. Christ said the kingdom will taken away from Isreal and given to another nation. Matthew 21:33-43. That woman is a real human who will give birth to Chist and not a symbol of Isreal |
But that is not what the Bible says that is if u truly agreed that the male child is Christ. And remember that it was Christ that reveled it to John 65 years after His ascension. Revelations 12:1-5 1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth. The Red Dragon, Satan 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads were seven diadems. 4 And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child. The Male Child, Christ 5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. The above stated clearly that THE MALE CHILD WAS BORN BY A WOMAN. What u read in Rev. 19:11-16 will not happen physically rather it gave further details of the male child and His mission on earth. His weapon of war is His word. Isaiah 63 :1-6 says 1 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save. 2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat? 3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment. 4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come. 5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me. 6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth. Can u see Christ dressed in red garment just as John saw Him in Rev. 19? This time He came not as an Isrealite but an Edomite (African) to judge the man after His death for man's salvation. |
U still did not answer my question. Will Christ be born into the world again? Don't forget that the book of Revelations was written 65 years after Christ ascended to heaven. Yes there several prophecies yet to be fulfilled but alot has been fulfilled without humanity knowing it. God does not do things or fulfill prophecies the man expects it to be done rather He takes man unaware by using different strategies to full His wish |
Was that a prophecy foretelling the birth of Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords the second time or was that scripture referring to His birth as the Saviour? It is a universal kingdom which will first swallow all spiritual kingdoms and powers before taking over the physical kingdoms and powers |
Onun Eggan Otim Oshim Was Raised Back To Life By Olumba Olumba Obu. In the night of the day that Eggan died, something spectacular happened. Prophetess Otom was weeping alone in her room every attempt to get her consled failed. Eventually, she dozed off, because she had been fatiqued. Said Prophetess Otom thereafter. As i was fast asleep, an elegant young man dressed in simple white cloth appeared to me with a smile and said, weep no more, Prophetess Otom. Your husband is not dead, he is alive. The young man got hold of my fore-finger and helped me made three circles (i.e O O O) on the deceased thus. One 'O' on his fore-head, another 'O' his abdomen, and the last 'O' on his right knee. After this exercise, the young man disappeared and i woke up to find my husband opening and closing his eyes and mouth at short intervals. I watched him raised his hands one after the other very gently. Then he turned his eyes to the direction i was sitting and watching. He could not recognise me. He struggled to get himself into a sitting position but failed. It was at this stage that i went and got him seated. After a while he fixed his eyes on me and called me by my name, Otom. Are you Otom my wife? I answered in the affirmative. He narrated the events that led to his being there. He wept and i joined him. As we were consoling and embracing ourselves, we heard a knock on the door. It was Onun Ogim Eleh, my father. It was the first knock that early morning. Onun Ogim Eleh almost collapsed when he saw the outstretched hands of my husband, Onun Eggan Otim Oshim trying to embrace him as the door was swung open by me. ' 'Stpp, don't embrace me! I have nothing to do with a ghost. We shall give you a befitting burial. You were a great hero, we all know this'', he screamed pointing his walking stick at Eggan. Who stood motionless starring at him. I fell on my knees weeping before my father holding firm his feet. ''Father, what you are seeing is my husband, Eggan, my real husband and not his ghost''. I pleaded, Ogim Eleh dropped his walking stick and the two men embraced themselves. |
While we all awaits Christ's universal manifestation on the last day Can u explain to me who is the male child that will be born by a woman who will rule all nations with the rod of an iron in Rev. 12:1-5? |
lordnicklaus:Do u also need Bible proof to confirm whether the prophetic declarations are real or false? U belive then without any Bible proof when they say those words which are not written in the Bible right? But when another prophet says u demand for Bible proof. This is hypocrisy |
lordnicklaus:So do u agree that the anti christ has been revealed already or are u still expecting him to be revealed? |
Prophetess Otom's First Revelation. One early morning, Prophetess Otom woke her husband and narrated to him a dream she had about their farm. She began; we were working when shouts, calling attention to on-coming animals came from different directions from other farmers who were also working on their farms. The animals turned out to be bush cows. You ran out with your special weaved net and a club. A moment later, the bush cows started chasing people. Unfortunately you were knocked down by one of them. You were later carried home on a stretcher dead. At home all efforts to bring you back to life proved abortive. Prophetess Otom then pleaded wth her husband not to lead the hunting expedition, they had planned the previous night. She said she was afraid of what would happen because of her dream. The husband shapely replied almost in anger ''i have never been known to be a coward. My word had always been my bond. Even the smallest child in Ozoi Etono knows that Eggan Otim Oshim is Eggan OtIm Oshim. Death is death and life is life. I cannot fear death. To stop leading the hunting expedition as planned, would mean an act of cowardice on my part''. On the following day Onun Eggan Otim Oshim , led the hunting expedition, some hours after they had started hunting for animals, Eggan was knocked down by one of the wild beasts. He was carried home on a stretcher dead. The news of Eggan's death spread like wild fire. So Eggan is dead? Shouted Prophetess Otom at the top of her voice as she lay flat on her back, weeping. The crowd that gathered could not be controlled; Eggan was dead! They all wept. While the weeping and wailing went on, the two families (of Eggan and his wife) were meeting to put finishing touches to a befitting burial arrangements for Onun Eggan Otim Oshim. By the death of Onun Eggan Otim Oshim, it was confirmed that indeed Prophetess Otom served a living God. It was to let the people know the efficacy in dreams and visions as her future visions were to reveal to a doubting world. |
PROPHETESS OTOM REVELATIONS. Though the Bible did mention His Name but we must that not everything God did was recorded in the Bivle but whenever God wants to do something, He always reveal it to someone. Amos 3:7 says; Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but He revealeth His secrets to His servants the prophets. With the above scripture i humbly introduce to you one of those servants of God by name Prophetess Otom: a native of Biakpan in Biase L.G.A of Cross River state, Nigeria. Prophetess Otom the visioner, was the daughter of Onun Ogim Eleh. She was married to Onun Eggan Otim Oshim. The carnage was not a successful one because Prophetess Otom had protested from the initial stage, that she would not like to be given in marriage to anyone. She felt that marriage, wth all its attendant problems and committments would seriously affect her spiritual power. Her protest against her marriage to Onun Eggan Otim Oshim was against the wishes of her parents, and they showed their displeasure Through persuasion, a compromise was reached, and the marriage was contracted. For many years there was no issue because of her refusal to be intimate with her husband. After much pressure from her husband for intimacy the prophetess threatened a divorce to enable her serve her God with devotion. The threat brought prolonged argument between husband and wife for days. This again, was partially settled by the parents of both parties in a befitting traditional manner. |
lordnicklaus:So the anti christ kingom has not been revealed with all evils happening arou? Now, if the beasts are past gentiles kings, where is the Ancient of Days? He should be around by now. Answer my questions about the Joly Spirit above |
Marvel1206:He is my God and Father |
lordnicklaus:How can u say that the Son of man will arrive at the final day when it was clearly stated that the earthly govts were still in place when He arrived? U have already concluded that Olumba is not God therefore u can t see or understand what the Bible says. Read Daniel 7 and seek undertanding of it. |
Marvel1206:U are right my friend because nobody can take me out of the Father s hands. John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. Thanks |
Muafrika2:Read my response on the Holy Spirit and answer my questions |
iyamchee:Oh precious found soul, Olumba Olumba Obu is everything to me and i am happy this way |
lordnicklaus:I read the whole chapter and that God decided to use the Nebuchadnezzar's dream to foretell what He will do, are u to question Him? Will the establishment of the kingdom be on the last days? Are we not in the last days? Didn't u read that the earthly govts/kings will still be in power as God establishes His kingdom? Its funny how u concluded that the empowerment of the Apostles to carry out their Apostolic mandate by the Holy Spirit on the Pentecost day was the arrival of the Promised Comforter. Are u saying that the prophets of old who proclaimed God's word functioned with a different Holy Spirit? Was Elizabeth, mother of John the Baptist not filled with the Holy Spirit even before Christ was born? Who is the Sustainer of the universe? If u agree with me that we have one Holy Spirit, then u have to also agree with me that He was on earth before creation and the Sustainer of all creation. Therefore, He has never left the earth because that is all satan needed to end the end in a just blink of an eye and the all-knowing God will not make such mistake. Think about Job and what happened to him after the Holy Spirit gave satan opportunity to torment him. Even David prayed in Psalm 51 that God should not take away the Holy Spirit from him. If the Holy Spirit has never left the earth as an Invisible Being, what do u think Christ meant when He said the Comforter/Holy Spirit will come? |
themall:The Godhead is made up of The Father, Son And Holy Spirit. The manifestation of the Word/Son in human form over 2000 years ago was to break the barrier(sin) between man and GodHead or United Trinity. After the sacrificial death on the cross, resurrection and ascension, the way became open for the Ancient of Days (The Holy Spirit and Father) who has been one earth even before creation as an invisible being though He has revealed Himself in human form to Abraham and Joshua to come down on earth to establish His kingdom.. In Daniel 7:9-10 the says 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. The above scriptures stated clearly that the Ancient of Days who is the Almighty God and Holy Spirit ( John 4:24) came down on earth just as Daniel 2:44 predicted. That Ancient of Days who is the Promised Comforter is Leader Olumba Olumba Obu who came to establish the New Kingdom Of God known as Brotherhood Of The Cross And Star. Brotherhood means God and all His creations. Cross means God and the work of redemption and Star means God and the beauty/glory of Christ who is Our Bright and Morning Star. Leader Olumba Olumba Obu, the Holy Spirit/Comforter did not come to glorify Himself but to glorify the Lamb, Our Lord Jesus Christ. He devoted Himself to teach and preach about Christ. In Daniel 7:13-14 the Bible says 13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. The above scriptures also stated that Son of man (Christ) was brought before the Ancient of Days ( Holy Spirit/Comforter) to be glorified. That means the Father and the Son manifested physically on earth. The Son is His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu. That prophecies were not only reveled to thew Lady of Fatima but also Prophetess Otom and Prophet Enun Nkpa |
iyamchee:Not just His follower but i am the work of His hands. He is my God and Creator! |
lordnicklaus:www.nairaland.com/3035804/bible-prophecies-olumba-olumba-obu#44503158 |
A lot has been said about this Great And Supernatural Teacher Of All Ages Leader Olumba Olumba Obu And His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu. Some call Him Anti-Christ, Beelzebub, Fish, Juju Man, Wizard etc. But who is Olumba Olumba Obu? Though the Name Olumba Olumba Obu was not written in the Bible but did the Bible talked about Him? This thread is a debate thread based on what the Bible says. In Daniel 2:44 the Bible says And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. If the above prophecy was real, then it means that God Almighty will come down on earth to establish His Kingdom. It also means that the world will not come to an end before God come down to establish His kingdom on earth, dwell with man and be served by man. That means humanity should expect to have their Creator living among them as a human being. It was God's original plan to dwell with man here on earth but sin became the barrier. But in His wisdom and mercies for mankind, He sent His Son to redeem us with His blood through death on the cross. Our Lord Jesus Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords but as a servant to pay the ultimate prize for the redemption of the whole creation. On the cross He declared IT IS FINISHED which means it is done, the prize has been paid. Anyone who believes is saved. Our Lord Jesus Christ promised that the Holy Spirit will come after He ascension into heaven. The coming of the Holy Spirit on earth is the manifestation of God Almighty in human form just as Daniel prophecied in chapter 7. His manifestation will not be in an invisible form but He will come in human form just as Our Lord Jesus Christ has been invisible as the Word even though everything were created by Him. The same way the Word became human so will the Holy Spirit manifest in human form for Him to be able to relate well with men He must become a man and must have a name. He manifested in human form in 1918 after the revelations were given to the Lady of Fatima of Catholic Church, Prophetess Otom and Prophet Enun Nkpa. His physical manifestation in the land of Biakpan in Biase LGA of Cross River State with the OLUMBA OLUMBA OBU. If u have any question u are free to ask. N/B: I will not response to any question that is abusive
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lordnicklaus:Can u prove to me that u know the Bible? |
lordnicklaus:I am ready for the discussion. Can we start? |