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sleekdot:
I never get alert o. When i get alert I go use the money sponsor party on this thread for your loss to PSG tomorrow

Na your money sef I for like chop. Your lunch money to help you lose weight

How your belle be nowadays sef

Like this

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Or like this

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Chestar5 what do you think about this 1b1me belle

diggz:
Bros no vex abeg,na the reasons above naim make us say make we forget this talk.

I saw and bolded where u used the productivity of ronaldinhos dribbles against jjs, so can you tell us why u ain't supporting ibimes claim instead of sebod as regard iniesta?

Please try to include productivity this time. Thanks

sebod:
Attention dmcdad! Your guy has finally been exposed. Na only me just dey there dey laugh.

sod09:
did I hear u say he's not good enough I tot he's d best cf

Greatihex:
aside the fact that hazard has not been himself this season, we all should know the qualities of a player we argue about. There are qualities hazard have over neymar and vice versa. If you actually know and watch both players, you should know their qualities, keeping sentiments apart.
Whoever does not know that hazard is a better dribbler to neymar, such person does not know the meaning of dribbling. Hazard keeps the possession better. When you pass to hazard, at least there is a 95 percent assurance that he will not lose possession. He also creates more chances than neymar; this is a fact. He has done that even in his worst season.

AjanleKoko:
Since Chelsea is obviously not winning squat, they need something to cheer themselves up na

sebod:
I have never stayed that long on the thread. I am glad there are still reasonable ones among them lecturing and correcting their wrong info
Imagine the follow follow guys who don't even know anything about football but to sit down and digest whatever their godfather tells them
Imagine the dude that interpreted 38 goals for country to 38 goals in world cup?
Imagine your guys that even rushed to claim Hazard is better in dribbling than Iniesta?
One aboki even claimed our very Mikel Obi would perform better than Iniesta?
The jokes are endless my brother. It can only be on Chelsea thread

Nihilist:
No point.

If you follow this discussion from the very beginning you'll see that I was the one who brought in Zidane and Xavi to the table.

Ibime gave every excuse under the sun why these so called unproductive niggas are acclaimed as some of the best that ever did it.

No point going there again.

Fact remains that Iniesta had far more individual awards than our Super Frank, assists and goals notwithstanding

nonsoroyalty:
lol of all the site u could use u went for statbunker, the fact that Ibime agreed with bimffo w/o checking proves the fact that most of his rant about iniesta are based on hatred

but if xavi can be your best cm of all time with stats that are inferior to lampard's why is iniesta now tagged an unproductive ninja

bigkesh:
OK then, good!!
Oya post pictures of lampard vs Iniesta statistics..... M sure you can do that

hensben:
dmcdad and co always shoot their foot by themselves.

bigkesh:
Are you kidding me??
Hazard vs Iniesta is the argument, why Neymar

Ibime:
I could swear you were talking about Iniesta here rather than Hazard.

I mean someone told us his purpose on the pitch is to dribble 5 men, not to score or assist.

chara019:
repping Nov 19 too.

bigkesh:
Hazard is a better dribbler.... Gbam
Hazard is better at creating chances...Gbam....Hazard is having his worst season yet I can bet he has created more than Iniesta

sebod:
You know I hardly get involved on issues like this. But, so many people have been misinformed by all these campaign of hatred and one has to remind them of some certain facts. Imagine someone saying I said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? What a funny world with so many funny people

sebod:
Who said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? It's obvious you didn't get the point and you could have asked for clarification rather than concluding.

sebod:
Before the final against Manchester United in the UCL final, this was what the legendry SirAlex Ferguson said.
"I'm not obsessed with Messi, Iniesta is the danger. He's
fantastic. He makes the team work. The way he finds
passes, his movement and ability to create space is
incredible. He's so important for Barcelona."
And after the match, Waney Rooney quipped "Iniesta is the best player in the world"
And for the innocent ones who really don't know much about the don, just go to you tube and check Iniesta's performance in the latest el classico. Check his work rate, assist and goal and tell me the definition of vision and productivity. For Madrid fans to applaud a Barca player (their eternal enemy), there must be something special about him. Iniesta was the 1st player after Maradona in 1983 and Ronaldinho in 2005 to be applauded by Madrid fans after orchestrating their demolition.
Everyone has his favourites anytime any day. Down grading a player who has won it all all out of hatred is the height of hypocrisy.

Nihilist:
Kids, don't do drugs

hensben:
So you know this line yet still asking what does hazard do that Neymar doesn't.

sebod:
When the captain of the best club in the world is vision less, indecisive and unproductive.
You can only get that on chelsea thread.....

hensben:
what does iniesta do that lampard is not better at?

hensben:
sentimental Werey Fvck off my mention.

Emaprince:
My question is: why do barca fans and dayo use stats to judge and diminish hazards good jobs in the field of play?

Iniesta is now on the receiving end of the same kind of criticism, story don change. Hypocrites!!

Nihilist:
I personally just get irritated when people bandy stats about without understanding what football is about.

Barca don't throw through balls about upandan. They are very patient with the ball. Often times, the ball goes through a long sequence of passes before it finds its way into the net. There's no rush to 'create chances'. The chances will come

What Iniesta and Xavi do..is control the tempo.

I'm sure many of you here will remember how Ibime was shouting how wanted Schweinsteiger back in the day...that's a man who used to average 4 league assists per season.

Will Ibime say he was vociferously advocating for an 'unproductive nigga'?

I mean come on...between 2010 and 2015 Pirlo registered 13 league assists on one occasion...the rest of the time he was averaging 4-5 assists per season

Of course, they will tell you that it was a deep position blah blah...but the fact of the matter is...most of the time players like Iniesta and co are not the ones that release the final ball.

They control the game and assist the assister.

I find it extremely idiotic that anybody will look at the highly decorated captain of the greatest club football team ever...and say he is unproductive

The only people allowed to say that are lobotomised zombies or people who don't understand football.

sebod:
The argument on Iniesta being vision less, indecisive and unproductive has been over-flogged and kudos to the guys-nihilist, raumdeuter, ibime, airmak and co for their input either in support or against the topic.
But, for the sake of those that might have been misled and misinformed based on the stats that have been put up, I decided to add my view.
Based on statistics
CR7 scored a total of 61 goals last season compared to Suarez 25 goals. Stats would tell us CR7 was more productive, but those that really saw Suarez play would agree his 25 goals won treble for the club.
Waney Rooney is the highest goal scorer for England with 50 goals while Tores only has 38 goals for spain. While stats would have proved Rooney as more productive, those that really followed the game would agree Tores' 38 goals have a world cup and European medals to show for it. So much for productivity.
Lampard, has more goals and assists than Xavi and Zidane combined, and one would have assumed he's the greatest midfielder based on stats, but we still have some on this forum that rate Xavi, Zidane and co ahead of Lampard.
Lampard scored 29 goals for England(including penalties and free-kicks), went to Euro 2004, scored 3 goals while England were eliminated by Portugal. He won the MOTM in a match against Paraguay without scoring at 2006 world cup and got eliminated by Portugal where he missed a crucial penalty.
He was also part of the team that got eliminated by Germany in the round of 16 at th 2010 world cup where he had a record of 37 shots on goal without scoring in a world cup tournament more than any other player since 1966 what is productivity?
Iniesta only has 13 goals for Spain in which he won back to back European cup while one of the goals won the world cup for Spain in their entire rich history. For a player that scores and assists less, there must be something special about him that got him applauds from all over.
Why couldn't any of Lamps 29 goals even take England to the final in any of the tournaments he played let alone wining any?
This is part of the post of Ibime on page 1829

In 1998, Zidane won WPOTY solely for his World Cup performance. How many goals he scored for Juve is irrelevant. The World Cup made him. Ronaldo De Lima and Alex Del Piero were BY FAR the best club players that season. Ronaldo was Serie A Player of the year for reference.

In 2000, Luis Figo was BY FAR the best club player in the World. Zinedine Zidane snatched the WPOTY based solely on the Euros. It was like a monumental disgrace when Figo did not win that year. Figo made so much noise about it, they had to feel sorry for Figo and give it to him the following year. You cannot remember that. How much he produced for his club is irrelevant. On club performance alone, he could not smell top 10 in WPOTY that year. Totti was Serie A Player of the Year for reference.
The world cup made Zidane as he won the tournament for France. He's praised and idolised for that. But Iniesta should be crucified for winning same world cup for his country. Zidane became famous for what he did for country more than club but Iniesta should be ridiculed for doing same for both club and country.
It's easy for someone who only relies on stats that can be gotten on the Internet to castigate Iniesta, but those that really watch him play regularly would never subscribe to that.
Lampard in Barca jersey would never have scored that much as you had claimed. He would never be the penalty and free-kick taker, he would never be able to shoot at sight regularly because of the style of play as emphasis are more on passing than shooting. Iniesta may not be as scoring or assisting as his counterparts, but what he brings to the field of play is what distinguishes him from the rest. 98% of the world tha have rated him so high couldn't have been blind to what you guys believe and I can say that even Lampard would give up everything he has including his wife to win half of what the maestro has won in his career.
There's no crime in hating someone as long as you don't bring such person down with your hatred. How some would hail Zidane, xavi and co and would pull down Iniesta is baffling. I don't like Drogba for anything, but that would not stop me from admiring his greatness and exploits as one of the best players Africa ever produced.
El illusionista is the don, hate him or like him, he has made his mark!

Chestar5:
All ye barca fans carry ya self outta dis thread, dis argument is gettin irritating ....

Cant wait to meet u guys @ d semis in ucl, it ll b a game u ll all remember

codedguy1:
Na wa oo the Ramsey curse continues....
Ramsey scored, Nancy Reagan dies!

airmark:

Later you, dmcdad, coded01 and co would be arguing that the award is influenced by perez. The thunder wey go fire that your team dey wenger's hand.

coded01:
Less I forget... Iniesta's goal against Chelsea will forever create enemies against him...it's obvious the hate...

I will never forget where I was and how I felt the moment he scored that special goal...

The most happiest moment ever as a football fan...

coded01:
You still dey read ni?


I don unfollow the thread on top their matter...


Until my guy drag me come here...

mcdreeezy:
Suarez has finally broken the padlock. The door is now open and from here henceforth, the golazos shall flow with milk and honey.