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Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 10:38pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
Idolater, better go run go mecca go touch the black stone for your sins to be forgiven grin


Ibn `Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: “Touching them both (the Black Stone and Ar-Rukn Al-Yamani) is an expiation for one’s sins.” (At-Tirmidhi, Sunan, hadith no. 959. This hadith is classified as hasan by At-Tirmidhi and as Sahih by Al-Hakim (1/664), and Adh-Dhahabi agreed with him.)

Idolater, na black stone go forgive you your sins grin it is finish for everyone following Muhammad
Same way you believe the blood 🩸 of your god that was nailed on the cross clear you sin right ? 😀

If you belief that killing of your god can clear your sin , what is the special deal in touching the black stone same way you hold and kiss your cross 😀
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 10:36pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
Where did i kiss the cross Jàre taqqiya master? I said those worshipping cross, with anyone worshiping image are not different from you slaves that are worshipping the shrine of kaaba as seen in hindu paganism

Na the black stone go forgive you your sin, so for lying against me that I worship the cross, go to mecca go touch the black stone for forgiveness
Pagan can never be taken serious 😂.


Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 10:35pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
Muhammad was caught having great love for the shrine and black stone of kaaba grin Idolaters set of Slaves


Sahih Bukhari 2:26:667
Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia: 'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
Did you not love cross ?

Did you not even put cross in your houses for protection as you belief it is the sign of your god that was nailed
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 10:19pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
I don't bow for the cross image of Jesus Christ neither did I worship it

Again, see Muhammad kissing the black stone of kaaba


Sahih Muslim 7:2916
Suwaid b. Ghafala reported: I saw Umar (Allah be pleased with him) kissing the Stone and clinging to it and saying: I saw Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) having great love for you. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Sufyin with the same chain of transmitters (and the words are):" That he ('Umar) said: But I saw Abu'l-Qasim (way peace be upon him) having great love for you." And he did not mention about clinging to it.
But you chose Jesus as your god right ? And you was even proud your god is nailed right ?

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

You also kiss your cross .

Did they worship the stone ?

You will explain tire
Islam › Re: ACP Daniel Amah Accepts Islam At Emir Sanusi’s Palace by doffman: 10:10pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntilsIam:
You sha don see wetin dey inside your shrine called kaaba, boya you will need quran and hadith quotations to back it up abi bawo

What you're doing is not repetition shey? Islam ti ruin life e beyond repair
Really ? Said by chief pagan 😂

Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka ant slam also reconfirmed it : I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

Your god is dead o , because they nailed him with 10 inches in the public. 😀
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 10:05pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
As you can see I didn't quote you, try to carry your frustration go meet those worshipping kaaba okay
😀😀😀😀 a frustrated pagan
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 10:04pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
Sebi you don see wetin dey inside the shrine of kaaba? Should I quote something for you from your glorious hadith to back it up abi bawo
Tell us , what is inside ?

Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious

Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 10:00pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
You know what, read this again but this time around read it gently




After reading it gently, you should regain your senses back
The chief pagan himself .

Na you claimed Muslim worship one hubal ldol in Makkah 😀

The notion is on you .

The questions now are😀 :

1. If you claimed or believe that name of god or God of Makkah is Hubal and not Allah , provide the verse from the Quran mention such idol name as I provided evidences of Allah as God who was mentioned in the Quran as the God of Makkah ?

2. Since we all know that all the idols were already destroyed and removed by the prophet in the Makkah , show us the idols that were there now and who put it there ?

😀
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 9:57pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
It is finish for you, see wetin dey inside that shrine you called kaaba
The son of gods 😀 . You will explain tire o
Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 9:54pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
So the author of quran will tell you that allah is an idol abi or Muhammad that forced allah on you the idol he inherited from his idolater father Abdullahi will tell you that allah is an idol bah? Boya ni o wa ni sense mo bayi for asking me to quote where allah was mentioned as an idol in quran.
😀😀😀😀😀

Just see how daft you are ! The pagan himself that want to force his paganism to Makkah .

Na you claimed Hubal is the god that Muslims worshipped in makkah and I reset your brain with proof from same Quran that Allah is the God of Makkah with Quran verses 😃

Show us your Hubal idol in Quran or keep quite 😁

Copycat master went to copied what he did not understand .
Islam › Re: ACP Daniel Amah Accepts Islam At Emir Sanusi’s Palace by doffman: 9:45pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntilsIam:
Eru-iku ABORISA ponbele, the questions are now rubbish abi? Ti e tita finally walai



I said why is your religion copied the mode of worship in hindu paganism, you never see answer to this

Show me where Abraham was caught half naked circumbulating the shrine of kaaba la another Wahala for you

Why facing the direction of kaaba before praying to your idol that was caged inside the shrine and black stone of kaaba, na calamity

Quote where asalatu Sunday program was mentioned in quran, is another problem
See the pagan repeating same thing . You have been answered in the other thread you first ran away . Go back there 😀😀

And this this the new question you are running from :

My question still stands o

Question 1 :

I already show you the evidence that Muslim do not worship stone or any idol but prostrate to Allah With Abraham also circle and worship in Kaabah.

Since you claimed Muslims worship stone or any idols other than Allah , show me the evidence from Quran that show that that Muslim worship stone or any idol apart Allah ?


Question 2 .

Other time , The last question I asked you before you ran away .

From your Bible , tell us where Jesus instructed you to worship on Sunday .

You already asked me where in Quran Muslims are instructed to pray 5 times , and I have given you plus Friday prayer inclusive . And you ran away 😀


You even directed me to a new thread I also deal with you there .

This pagan has suffered greatly 😀😀
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 9:40pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntilsIam:
Thank God I didn't face the direction of whatsoever before preying to my Lord like you that must face the direction of kaaba brofre praying to your idol allah

I am happy that I didn't circumbulate any shrine, stone or image as it is a must you circumbulate the shrine of kaaba before your idol (allah)

Thank God I didn't kiss any stone or image as you are doing in Islam by kissing the black stone of kaaba

Pagan calling someone pagan, iwo aborisa ponbele yii. Below picture is what you have inside the shrine you called kaaba. See the nonsense you're bowing for ABORISA eru-iku jati-jati
It pains the copycat pagan well 😀😃😃

Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious
Islam › Re: ACP Daniel Amah Accepts Islam At Emir Sanusi’s Palace by doffman: 9:36pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntilsIam:
I should tag you here jor the one I tagged you for you own page did you answer my questions?

I said why is your religion copied the mode of worship in hindu paganism, you never see answer to this

Show me where Abraham was caught half naked circumbulating the shrine of kaaba la another Wahala for you

Why facing the direction of kaaba before praying to your idol that was caged inside the shrine and black stone of kaaba, na calamity

Quote where asalatu Sunday program was mentioned in quran, is another problem

ETC

None of my questions you answered so kini koko existence e gan self since you can't answer simple question
A pagan is now talking rubbish oo jumping from one topic to another .

See pagan shifting the post 😁

Are you ready to answer my questions ?

My question still stands o

Question 1 :

I already show you the evidence that Muslim do not worship stone or any idol but prostrate to Allah With Abraham also circle and worship in Kaabah.

Since you claimed Muslims worship stone or any idols other than Allah , show me the evidence from Quran that show that that Muslim worship stone or any idol apart Allah ?


Question 2 .

Other time , The last question I asked you before you ran away .

From your Bible , tell us where Jesus instructed you to worship on Sunday .

You already asked me where in Quran Muslims are instructed to pray 5 times , and I have given you plus Friday prayer inclusive . And you ran away 😀


You even directed me to a new thread I also deal with you there .

This pagan has suffered greatly 😀😀
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 9:00pm On Jan 09, 2025
Sterope:
Now I get why he is obsessed with lies, Islam must be seen as paganism by fore and by fire.
Exactly .

And remember the verse below :

They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it. Quran 61: 8

That is why even if no one replying them , they will fail and lost and forgotten . Where is there forefathers that abuse prophet and Islam in the past ; they are all forgotten and islam is still flourishing.
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 8:35pm On Jan 09, 2025
Sterope:
None of them has ever opened the Qur'an to study.

First, they hate Islam and Muslims
Second, they shop around to copy and paste what others say about Islam and Muslims. No fact checking or further studying. Garbage in, garbage out. They are not coming from a place of knowledge and sincerity. It is a waste. Please bow out
The antilslam pagan dude is well known as copycat pagan on every Muslim thread .
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 8:21pm On Jan 09, 2025
Sterope:
I love the way Qur'an addresses those rhetorical questions.

They think think it is gotcha moment and the Qur'an is like not so fast.
Never take a pagan serious o
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 8:09pm On Jan 09, 2025
Sterope:
First, basic Islamic education:

All messengers were sent to deliver messages, some to their families, others to their nations only BUT ONLY the prophet was sent to the world. That verse is reference to all other messengers

We know this how because: grin

[b] And We have sent you (O Muhammad SAW) not but as a mercy for the Alameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists)” [al-Anbiya’ 21:107]


"And We have not sent you except comprehensively to mankind as a bringer of good tidings and a warner. But most of the people do not know." Surah Saba (34:28)


"This is a Book We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] so that you may bring mankind out of darkness into the light by permission of their Lord—to the path of the Exalted in Might, the Praiseworthy." Surah Ibrahim (14:1)

"Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a warner." Surah Al-Furqan (25:1)


"Say, [O Muhammad], 'O mankind, indeed I am the Messenger of Allah to you all, from Him to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. There is no deity except Him; He gives life and causes death.' So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered prophet, who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him that you may be guided." Surah Al-A'raf (7:158) [/b]

God knowing how evil some of you are, he already replied your question:

"And if We had made it a non-Arabic Qur'an, they would have said, 'Why are its verses not explained in detail? Is it a foreign [recitation] and an Arab [messenger]?' Say, 'It is, for those who believe, a guidance and cure.'"

"And if We had revealed it to one among the non-Arabs, and he had recited it to them, they would still not have been believers." Surah Al-Shu'ara (26:198-199)



My reply is for others who want to be guided. And please study the Qur'an cool.

By the way, it is the only religious text whose original language has been maintained since the time of revelation for over than 2000 years. People all over the world learn Quranic arabic (different from mainstream Arabic and other dialects ). People have walked thousand of miles before cars and planes just to learn Quranic Arabic. A flex! God did that tongue.
You already finished him 😀

A pagan can never understand ahaaa
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 8:07pm On Jan 09, 2025
UncleAyo:
It is one thing to say a thing. It is another to practice what you say. The discongruent is called hypocrisy.

While I'm not against paganism or idolatory, you need to ask yourself these questions:

Does your people bow towards a house when they pray? Do your people kiss a black stone as part of worship of Allah? Does your people circumambulate the Kaaba nakedly just the way it is been practice by the paganists? Does your people make special reverent to objects such as Mount Arafat, and Safa and Marwah in their worship of Allah?

All these are what the paganists do and what pains me most is the constant condemnation by muslims of our local indigenous people for practising our heritage (which is similar) because of these fake imported religion and practices.
Na you claimed Muslim worship ldol in Makkah 😀

The notion is on you .

Having shown you that Muslim worship Allah and not idol ,

Bring proof from Quran that say Muslims worship idol ?

You opinion is useless mr man . I still want to know the category of your belief o .
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 8:04pm On Jan 09, 2025
AntiisIam:
I deceived that slave to come down here and face his warrant. Good question he asked you there

You are calling someone a pagan whereas all you do in Islam are that of idols worshippers. You bow towards a house when you pray, you kiss the black stone of the shrine of kaaba as part of worshiping allah, you circumbulate the shrine of kaaba half naked just as the hindu paganism are doing, etc
A certified pagan , the son of god , why are you afraid to quote me nah 😀


Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 7:59pm On Jan 09, 2025
UncleAyo:
This is what I'm saying


Qur'an, Surah Ibrahim (14:4):

"And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them. And Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
While you people always jump from from topic to another . When they hooked you in one topic , you will just jump to other thing 😀

To know the category you belong , let me first know the category of belief you fall into :

Do you believe in oneness of God or three in 1

Do you believe Jesus is your God or messenger of Only God ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 7:42pm On Jan 09, 2025
UncleAyo:
SMH

Deliever yourself from this mental slavery. Islam is an imported religion. Don't die a victim. You're already a victim of a religion you did not actively choose. If you were born into Hinduism, this is the same way you will try to justify the religion.


Muhammed don't even know you. Arabs dont have any regard for the black.
What is this one saying 😀?

That is your own opinion . We do not take pagan serious mr man
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman:
AntiisIam:
I'm Back

Islamic god allah (allah, al-ilah, the god) was the principal, though not the only, deity of Makkah. The name is an ancient one. It occurs in two South Arabic inscriptions, one a Minean found at al-'Ula and the other Sabean, but abounds in the form HLH in the Lihyanite inscriptions of the fifth century B.C. Lihyan, which evidently got the god from Syria, was the first center of the worship of this deity in Arabia. The name occurs as Hallah in the Safa inscriptions five centuries before Islam and also in a pre-Islamic Christian Arabic inscription found in umm-al-Jimal, Syria, and ascribed to the sixth century. The name of Muhammad's father was 'Abd-Allah ('Abdullah, the slave or worshiper of Allah). The esteem in which Allah was held by the pre-Islamic Makkans as the creator and supreme provider and the one to be invoked in time of special peril may be inferred from such Quranic passages as 31:24, 31; 6:137, 109; 10:23.



Hitti affirms that Allah was the Quraysh’s tribal deity. We also cited Ibn Kathir who agreed that Hubal was the chief god of Muhammad’s family

Ibn Ishaq stated, "It is claimed that when ‘Abd al-Muttalib received such opposition from Quraysh over the digging of zamzam, he vowed that if ten sons were born to him who grew up and protected him, he would sacrifice one of them for God at the ka‘ba."


HUBAL AND “SONS AND DAUGHTERS” OF ALLAH

Allat, al-ʿUzza and Manat, the three female goddess of pre-Islamic Arabia, are mentioned in the Qur'an. The notable exception to this is Hubal, whom many consider to be a central figure in the Arabian hierarchy of gods. Why is Hubal, considering he was a prominent figure in the pantheon of gods and goddesses, not mentioned in the Qur'an? This question in itself has raised many more questions, causing many Orientalists to indulge themselves in unreserved speculations.

Allah was the title used within each tribe to address its tribal deity instead of its proper name and that Allah became the Islamic substitute for the name of any idol. Wellhausen suggested that apart from Hubal's known presence in the Kaʿbah, there is no polemic in the Qur'an against him. In other words, while the Qur'an railed against Allat, Manat, and al-ʿUzza, whom the pagan Arabs referred to as the "daughters of Allah", it stopped short of attacking the cult of Hubal.



Abdu'l-Muttalib was Muhammad's grandfather, and Abdullah his father (Abd-allah = servant of Allah).

One of Abdu'l-Muttalib's sons was to be sacrificed to 'god at the Ka'ba'.

The god of the Ka'ba, as we already saw, was Hubal.

For circumcision, marriage, burial etc. people went to Hubal, the 'Lord of this house'.

Magic was used to determine Hubal's will (casting of arrows).

The boy Abdullah was brought to an idol to be sacrificed to 'him' (i.e. Hubal-Allah).

Abdu'l-Muttalib consulted a sorcerer who had a familiar spirit ('demon attending and obeying a witch'; Oxford Dictionary).

He gets an answer from the 'familiar spirit' through the witch.

He is to cast lots before Hubal 'until your lord is satisfied'. This lord can only be Hubal-Allah.


Important is not so much whom Muslims think they worship and submit to - but to whom they actually bow down

In the light of all this it is surely significant that we read of Muhammad in the Qur'an:


Surah 27:91
"For me, I have been commanded to serve the Lord of this city, Him Who has sanctified it and to whom (belong) all things ... ."

Hubal was the centre of worship in the Ka'ba in Mecca.

He was 'the Lord of this city', Mecca, and also called Allah.

While we must not conclude that Allah is Hubal, we may well consider spiritual implications when Muslims bow in worship towards the Ka'ba and submit to Allah.
The copycat pagan has copied what he did not understand . 😀

Just see the way I will finish you now 😀

Firstly who is Allah ?

Say, O Prophet, “He is Allah—One and Indivisible;

Allah—the Sustainer ˹needed by all

He has never had offspring, nor was He born.

And there is none comparable to Him.
Quran 112:1 to 4

More : Quran 40 : 61 to 66

It is Allah Who has made the night for you to rest in and the day bright. Surely Allah is ever Bountiful to humanity, but most people are ungrateful.

That is Allah, your Lord, the Creator of all things. There is no god worthy of worship˺ except Him. How can you then be deluded ˹from the truth˺?


It is Allah Who made the earth a place of settlement for you and the sky a canopy. He shaped you ˹in the womb˺, perfecting your form. And He has provided you with what is good and lawful. That is Allah—your Lord. So Blessed is Allah, Lord of all worlds.

He is the Ever-Living. There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him. So call upon Him with sincere devotion, ˹saying,˺ “All praise is for Allah—Lord of all worlds.”

Say, O Prophet, “I have been forbidden to worship those ˹idols˺ you worship besides Allah, since clear proofs have come to me from my Lord. And I have been commanded to ˹fully˺ submit to the Lord of all worlds.”



That is Allah (GOD) ; undisputed the he is not an idol.
and there is no confusion that Allah is the greatest who created everyone ( even if you did not believe in him , it is your problem and we can not help you with that )



Now same Allah instructed Abaraham to build the kaabah :

And remember when We assigned to Abraham the site of the House, saying, “Do not associate anything with Me in worship˺ and purify My House for those who circle ˹the Ka’bah˺, stand in prayer, and bow and prostrate themselves. Quran 22:26


And same Allah instructed Muslim to face the direction of Makkah as a Qibla ( direction) :

We see the turning of your face (for guidance) to the heavens: now Shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall thee. Turn then your face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque: wherever you are, turn your faces in that direction…” (Al Qur’an 2:144)

Same Allah confirm the Makkah as a sacred house for prostration and praying

And remember when We made the Sacred House a centre and a sanctuary for the people ˹saying, “You may take the standing-place of Abraham as a site of prayer.” And We entrusted Abraham and Ishmael to purify My House for those who circle it, who meditate in it, and who bow and prostrate themselves in prayer. Quran 2:125

And the good thing and which is also the sadness of you pagan is that the Abraham and his son also pray there 😀:

And remember when Abraham raised the foundation of the House with Ishmael, both praying, “Our Lord! Accept ˹this˺ from us. You are indeed the All-Hearing, All-Knowing. Quran 2: 127



Having said that , let move to the Quranic verse the chief pagan of the Nairaland aka antIslam quoted 😀:

Surah 27:91

Say, O Prophet, “I have only been commanded to worship the Lord of this city ˹of Mecca˺, Who has made it sacred, and to Him belongs everything. And I am commanded to be one of those who ˹fully˺ submit ˹to Him˺,

As you can see the lord of the city of Makka who made it sacred 😀.

Who is that lord ? Same Allah in the verse below :
And remember when We made the Sacred House a centre and a sanctuary for the people ˹saying, “You may take the standing-place of Abraham as a site of prayer.” And We entrusted Abraham and Ishmael to purify My House for those who circle it, who meditate in it, and who bow and prostrate themselves in prayer. Quran 2:125



As you can see from all the Quranic verses , Allah is the God of Makkah ; that is undisputed ( if you did not believe that , with the already evidences , it is not compulsory and it is your own problem ; and we did not owed you any help . Na you chose to be a pagan .


Also . We already knew that all the idols were removed when the prophet came back to Makkah .

Say, O Prophet, “I have been forbidden to worship those ˹idols˺ you worship besides Allah, since clear proofs have come to me from my Lord. And I have been commanded to ˹fully˺ submit to the Lord of all worlds.”

That is the reason why all the idols were removed .

This is one of the proof that Islam will never tolerate any paganism . Read 😀 :



From all the evidences above there is know any gods or idol called Hubal mentioned in Quran that simulates Allah in features and qualities .

The challenge

The question now are😀 :

1 If you claimed or believe that name of god or God of Makkah is Hubal and not Allah , provide the verse from the Quran mention such idol name as I provided evidences of Allah as God who was mentioned in the Quran as the God of Makkah ?

2. Since we all know that all the idols were already destroyed and removed by the prophet in the Makkah , show us the idols that were there now and who put it there ?

N.b : it is not a compulsory to belief that Muslim do not worship idols as some people worship different gods .

What can not happen is to force paganism to Islam . We rejected and will never partake in it .

Every pagan will end in hell fire 🔥 if such person die insuch path.
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman:
UncleAyo:
It is one thing to say a thing. It is another to practice what you say. The discongruent is called hypocrisy.

While I'm not against paganism or idolatory, you need to ask yourself these questions:

Does your people bow towards a house when they pray? Do your people kiss a black stone as part of worship of Allah? Does your people circumambulate the Kaaba nakedly just the way it is been practice by the paganists? Does your people make special reverent to objects such as Mount Arafat, and Safa and Marwah in their worship of Allah?

All these are what the paganists do and what pains me most is the constant condemnation by muslims of our local indigenous people for practising our heritage (which is similar) because of these fake imported religion and practices.
When they bow toward a direction of Makkah , Does that mean they bow to idol .

Daniel also pray by facing Jerusalem.

Is Daniel also worshipping idol.

The notion is on you , bring evidence from Quran that Muslim bow to idols in Makkah .

You already knew all the idols were removed by the prophet , which idols do you return there which Muslims are worshipping ? Bring the proof ?
Islam › Re: ACP Daniel Amah Accepts Islam At Emir Sanusi’s Palace by doffman:
AntilsIam:
How far, how market jàre? Sorry for inviting you to this thread https://www.nairaland.com/8312802/kaaba-bedouin-tribes

Dem don dey serve you right abi bawo, you never see anything grin
😀😀😀

That thread even expose you more .

You are even afraid to tag me there 😀

Have you now provided the proof that the Muslims worship idol or stone in Makkah ?

Go there , you have been exposed again and you have been served adequately .

A pagan that want to force his own ignorant believe by copy and paste .

It is not our fault for you to be a pagan .
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman: 5:43pm On Jan 09, 2025
Sterope:
It is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the breasts that are blind.

When someone have chosen misguidance and arrogance, no one can save them.
Exactly.

Never mind them . They want to force paganism into Islam with their mouth 😀. And no be by force to be a pagan .

One of them has already confessed to me that Jesus is his god after I drilled him hard . 😀 How can such person be taken serious .

As for those who persist in disbelief, it is the same whether you warn them or not—they will never believe. Quran 2:7
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman:
Any person that think Muslims are worshipping idols in the kaabah , that person should bring the proof from same Quran .

Since it has been proven no idols in the kaabah and no any Quranic verses that say Muslims are worshipping idol, stone or moon , The notion is on the person to bring proof from same Quran oo😀 and no shifting of post .
Christianity Etc › Re: Kaaba Of The Bedouin Tribes by doffman:
Sterope:
We don't deny the above oga. It shows how little you know.


First place of worship to One God

However, the Qur'an states that it is the first place of worship demarcated for one God.




Pagan worship
Over time people chose to worship pagans there (like how children of Israel turned back to idol worshiping despite God's obvious miracle) and when Islam got into Mecca, they destroyed all their pagan gods and left it open as a means to guide Muslims who pray.


Abraham and Ishmael
There was a period in time where Abraham and Ishmael raised the foundation and after doing to they made the following prayers



Jerusalem then Mecca
When Islam came, God directed the prophet to face Kaaba as a central place of worship. Early muslims used to face Jerusalem when they pray like the Jews.




Kaaba is not God

And a Muslim that worships Kaaba will go to hell!!! because it is not God but a mere symbol and it unifies Muslims across all countries, languages and tribes.



Kidsing the black stone
Kidsing the stone is NOT part of pilgrimage. There are many who have never kissed the stone will never kissed the stone and they have commited no sin and their pilgrimage is very valid.

You would know if you researched why? Umar(one of the Prophet's closest companion) once saw the prophet kissed the stone and he did and some people now do it.




Again, if you have chosen not to read the Qur'an or get basic Islamic knowledge. I will not waste time trying to teach you because you are not ready to learn. A man that shouts Allah means moon god in 2024 is irredeemable. If you have read the Qur'an, you won't be here lecturing me about Kaaba.

Another fun fact for you: every hour every day, there is one person in the world praying facing towards Mecca.
100 percent correct 👍 This is very clear for those that have working brain .

The idols were destroyed and removed , which Idols are they worshipping again . Nawa o .
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Priest Echezona Obiagbaosogu Resigns, Embraces Traditional Religion by doffman: 12:12pm On Jan 09, 2025
Islam › Re: What You Should Know About The Sacred Month Of Rajab? by doffman: 10:45am On Jan 09, 2025
AntilsIam:
This eru-iku can't do without Antiislam grin
It is you that can not exist without coming to Muslim thread to copy and paste .

He is now afraid to quote me . You have been tutored Ahaa.

Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious
Islam › Re: ACP Daniel Amah Accepts Islam At Emir Sanusi’s Palace by doffman:
AntilsIam:
This eru-iku one and only abandoned slave of allah is not proud about Muhammad that terminated like a rat because of atenuje
Why are you quoting yourself Ahaa

The pagan is already anxious to quote me since I already have his key to his brain . 😀😀😀

Quote me na .

But your god was nailed with 10 inches nail nah 😂.

A pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious
Islam › Re: What You Should Know About The Sacred Month Of Rajab? by doffman: 9:45am On Jan 09, 2025
AntilsIam:
You sha need my attention but you failed and refused to answer all my questions
This pagan has been reduced to dust ahaaa 😀

Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious
Islam › Re: ACP Daniel Amah Accepts Islam At Emir Sanusi’s Palace by doffman: 9:43am On Jan 09, 2025
AntilsIam:
Eru-iku doffman, why did you run away for this post?
A run away pagan still in pain . A pagan cannot be taken serious .

Who take you serious , a pagan that claimed Jesus is his GOD and he was even proud that he was nailed on the cross 😀 :

“My God that was nailed is alive till eternity”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

After extensive drilling , the chief pagan of Nairaland aka Antilslam also confess further . I quote :

“Should we not change the topic? Is Jesus Christ not my God?

Jesus Christ Of Nazareth is my God, he is the son of most high God, the word of God that came in flesh to save all mankind and move us closer to the father”

Said by Antlislaam 🎤

A pagan cannot be taken serious

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