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Health › Re: NMASTRIKE: University of Uyo Teaching Hospital CMD Shuts Down Electricity. by double0seven(m): 9:12pm On Jul 21, 2014
olrotimi: my guy dont make urself a joke here. In 400L, the med student studies pathology encompassing the four core sub-divisions where we're taught virtually all the practical procedures done in the labs(ofcus except for the more technical ones in histopathology which are done by resident docs). So the average doctor is capable of working in the lab and even doing better cos we'd work with the pathologic basis of disease at the back of our mind.
Big lie..... big fat lie....

You can never compare the trained eye of an experienced medical laboratory scientist to that of physician.

For crying out loud, there is specialisation within laboratory science. For instance, there is Microbiology and Parasitology... Now there is an area. There are different departments of labs in one hospital, each headed by Chief Scienctist specializing in the area.

So you mean to tell me you physicians, just because you're doctors know everything combined, which even a lab scientist cannot claim.

You doctors are seriously sick.....
Health › Re: NMASTRIKE: University of Uyo Teaching Hospital CMD Shuts Down Electricity. by double0seven(m): 6:27pm On Jul 21, 2014
phantom: your opinion. I appreciate your stopping by.
shocked huh undecided Impostor Alert!!!

Unbelievable; please let the real Phantom step forward! This one is fake!
Health › Re: NMASTRIKE: University of Uyo Teaching Hospital CMD Shuts Down Electricity. by double0seven(m): 5:33pm On Jul 21, 2014
phantom: god bless you pazienza! you have written well as usual.
Not so surprised that you're in perfect agreement with the guy......

.....he maybe on point.....okay.....let's just assume he is on point.....however, the way, manner and words &:arrogance with which you've been conducting yourself on all the NMA-strike-related threads is enough public relations nightmare to ruin the NMA of 5 different countries combined.
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Autos › Re: Registered MAZDA MPV 2001 (special Edition) by double0seven(m): 9:49am On Jul 19, 2014
Is this MPV manual or automatic?

For how long has it being registered or rather, being used? What do you mean by special edition; care to throw more light?
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Celebrities › Re: Open Letter To Peter Okoye: Why Boycott Jude's Wedding? by double0seven(m): 11:51am On Jul 18, 2014
[quote author=asodeboyede][/quote]No he's not a real man indeed. A real man would have attended the wedding despite all the things your mentor and object of admiration listed.

By attending he would have probes he is the bigger man between him and Jude; and Jude will have been shamed.

Chose your mentor wisely.
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Doso sorry to everyone..... Just discovered my mistake. Number is 0806 832 1289. You may call me tomorrow. Never switched off my number.
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Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 8:58am On Jul 12, 2014
armadeo: where in the world is it obtainable. the post i quoted asked two questions

1. where in the world are these consultants practicing in the teaching hospital setting
2. what where the qualifications required for them to attain this status.

after all its international practices, lets know how and why they got there before trying to import it.

there is no caste system in the health sector just division of labor which is what team work is all about.

let me add a third question on the issue of consultancy , what exactly do johesu members as consultants want to do that they aren't doing now, how does a johesu consultant benefit the patient.
14. Furthermore, for purposes of specialization
after NYSC, the MLS takes additional minimum of
seven years of full-time studies to obtain
professional fellowship, M.Sc and Ph.D before
being appointed as a Consultant (Specialist) MLS
by health institution Boards. On the other hand, a
doctor training to become a consultant
pathologist (Specialist) undertakes only four years
of part- time training to obtain his professional
fellowship diploma since he has to concurrently
study, perform routine and on call clinical duties,
engage often in private practice and National
Association of Resident Doctors (NARD)
activism- equivalent of two years of full time
training. A simple comparative analysis of years
of cognate knowledge training of basic MLS and
Pathologist is at a ratio of 6:2.33 years while that
of Consultant MLS and Pathologist is at a ratio of
13:2.33 years in favour of medical laboratory
scientists. Given that the generally accepted
indices of epistemic professional authority are
years of cognate knowledge and training, it goes
without saying that the MLS is the appropriate
core professional in charge of Medical Laboratory
Services at all levels. This is recognized by the
approved scheme of service and by the law, a
fact ASSOPON's extravagant outpouring of
negative emotions cannot obliterate. It is left for
the public to then
judge who the dog is and who the tail is in
medical laboratory services delivery.
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 12:30am On Jul 12, 2014
13. By legislation, scheme of service, training or
cognate knowledge, medical laboratory scientists
are the appropriate professionals to head medical
laboratory services. For, while the medical
laboratory scientist spends his entire six-year
period of undergraduate training studying medical
laboratory science, the medical doctor uses only
four months of his seven years of undergraduate
training to undertake introductory courses in
Laboratory medicine (equally weighted with M1S1
clinical
skills and pharmacology over a period of one
year) to enable him appreciate what test to
request for what disease conditions. This explains
why medical doctors cannot be produced without
the input of the medical laboratory scientists,
while the input of the pathologist is not a
prerequisite for the training of medical laboratory
scientists (Ref. curricula of BMLS & MBBS
programmes).

14. Furthermore, for purposes of specialization
after NYSC, the MLS takes additional minimum of
seven years of full-time studies to obtain
professional fellowship, M.Sc and Ph.D before
being appointed as a Consultant (Specialist) MLS
by health institution Boards. On the other hand, a
doctor training to become a consultant
pathologist (Specialist) undertakes only four years
of part- time training to obtain his professional
fellowship diploma since he has to concurrently
study, perform routine and on call clinical duties,
engage often in private practice and National
Association of Resident Doctors (NARD)
activism- equivalent of two years of full time
training. A simple comparative analysis of years
of cognate knowledge training of basic MLS and
Pathologist is at a ratio of 6:2.33 years while that
of Consultant MLS and Pathologist is at a ratio of
13:2.33 years in favour of medical laboratory
scientists. Given that the generally accepted
indices of epistemic professional authority are
years of cognate knowledge and training, it goes
without saying that the MLS is the appropriate
core professional in charge of Medical Laboratory
Services at all levels. This is recognized by the
approved scheme of service and by the law, a
fact ASSOPON's extravagant outpouring of
negative emotions cannot obliterate. It is left for
the public to then
judge who the dog is and who the tail is in
medical laboratory services delivery.

15. The recognized functions of the medical
laboratory scientists as far back as 1972, as
republished in the year 2000 and enshrined in the
Scheme of Service since 2001, specify that the
laboratory scientists are to conduct medical
laboratory investigations, interpret, design, modify
and take charge of general administration at the
various levels of lab services, while in keeping
with global practice, autopsy, clinical
interpretation of completed laboratory test results
to other doctors on specic requests, rendering
medical diagnosis or prescribing medical
treatment on the basis of such test results are
the proper functions for pathologists (Pitt &
Cunningham, 2009).

16. It is not for the love of the patients that
pathologists crave to abandon their primary
function as doctors to head the laboratory. The
handling of the budget and the procurement of
laboratory equipment, kits, reagents and
consumables in the lab whether they know which
is fake or not is part of the motivation for all this
conict (See above again for who procured the HIV
kits used in the Baby Eniola test!).

17. ASSOPON should be reminded that
developments in Medical Science as well as the
compelling requirements of the teeming
patients in Nigeria give no room for clannish
mentality or unnecessary obsession with
territorial turf or academic reminiscences. No
patient ever goes to the medical laboratory
merely to inquire about the history of the
profession; they go there to deservedly seek
reliable and reproducible laboratory test results
and reports. They derive no consolation from
ASSOPON's polemics or habitual belligerence.

18. Moreover, we commend the honourable
members of the House of Representatives who,
after an instructive debate last year,
ignored the pecuniary interests of some groups
and courageously mandated the House Committee
on Health to work with the
Medical Laboratory Science Council of Nigeria
(and no other organization) to improve medical
laboratory services in the country.

19. As far back as 2003, AMLSN had
acknowledged the chaotic state of medical
laboratory services in the country where as
pathologists, driven by morbid fear of the MLSCN
Act as they still are now, had insinuated that all
was well within the system. In the Guardian of
Monday, November 17, 2003, AMLSN had noted:
“Presently over 60% of medical laboratory
reagents and chemicals in our markets are faked
and often stocked and distributed under
unsuitable conditions; over 50% of our
laboratories are exclusively and sometimes
willfully manned by unqualied personnel...
Medical laboratory services in Nigeria are,
therefore, far from being smooth running, as
pathologists and Medical and Dental Consultants
Association of Nigeria would want the public to
believe”. Mischievously, pathologists are now
insinuating that they told the public so in 2013!
Yet it was the MDCN that had demanded that the
status quo be maintained. The MLSCN simply
responded by encapsulating the ramications of
the status quo in case MDCN hadn't thought
about it.

20. That medical practice preceded Medical
laboratory Science practice is no justication for
the selsh pecuniary quest of pathologists to
continue to interfere with the legitimate duties of
Medical Laboratory Scientists. Mathematicians,
Engineers and Physicists who discovered
Computer Science do not crave to boss the later
day Computer Scientists. Ditto for the various
professional cadres in the building and nance
industries etc. The African Charter on Human
Rights, Nigerian Constitution and other such
instruments meant to protect basic human rights
all abhor slave trade, which was also abolished
over two hundred years ago as well as apartheid
in the eighties; hence the illegitimate ambition of
pathologists to lord it over lab services cannot
prevail. The FMoH is urged to do the right thing
by directing pathologists to hands off interfering
with laboratory services and concentrate on their
primary duties in specialized clinics, wards and
mortuaries in a manner akin to the r e l a t i o n
s h i p b e t w e e n C l i n i c a l
Pharmacologists and Pharmacists in pharmacy;
Trauma/Orthopaedic surgeons and
Physiotherapists in physiotherapy etc.
Pathologists' quest to head medical laboratory
services is as ridiculous as clinical
pharmcologists trying to head pharmaceutical
services.

21. AMLSN would also want to draw the
attention of ASSOPON to the “Polio Vaccine
Controversy” as captured in the Punch
newspaper of Monday, March 22, 2004 (pg62) as
follows: “AMLSN is happy to note that the Hon.
Minister of Health and Nigerians in general have
realized that the controversy over the safety and
efcacy of polio vaccines was only resolved by
laboratory tests conducted in Nigeria, South Africa
and Indiaexclusively by Medical Laboratory
Scientists and not by pathologists as ASSOPON
erroneously tried to claim”. Typically, when things
are going well in the laboratory, pathologists want
the credit; when they go wrong, they blame it on
medical laboratory scientists.

22. In continuation of its ego-trip, ASSOPON st
made reference to the 1 international conference
of the African Society for
Laboratory Medicine (ASLM), in Cape town, South
Africa in December 2012 where, according to
ASSOPON, the South African Health Minister, Dr.
Pakishe Aaron Motsoaledi attributed the success
of the country's laboratories to the availability of
many pathologists. But ASSOPON should have
gone further to inform the Nigerian public that the
National Health Laboratory
Service of South Africa, which manages about 300
public medical laboratories in that country has a
health scientist as its
CEO who is NOT a pathologist!.

23. Pathologists and other stakeholders are once
again enjoined to join hands with MLSCN to
improve medical laboratory services in the
country in the interest of the citizens of this
country who earnestly desire such.

24. AMLSN urges MLSCN not to be distracted by
those who value personal quest for leadership
above the interest of patients,
but rather continue to diligently pursue its lawful
mandate as enshrined in Cap M24, LFN 2004
without any let or hindrance
whatsoever so as to sanitize the present chaotic
state of medical laboratory services for the good
health of Nigerians
(ASSOPON being the prime driver of mediocrity in
the sector).medicalworldnigeria.com
CONCLUSION
AMLSN owes the patient and the public a
professional and lawful obligation to vigorously
pursue and uphold continuous
quality improvement of medical laboratory
services and indeed healthcare delivery in Nigeria.
No amount of posturing or
grandstanding by any group will deter us. We call
on NMA, MDCAN and ASSOPON to bury their
hatchet and partner with us in this
onerous task.

Nigeria will be better for it.

DR GODSWILL C. OKARA
NATIONAL PRESIDENT
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 12:29am On Jul 12, 2014
Anyone that can take a little time to read what is below or at least a significant part of it will learn many things: how doctors have plotted suppress other health sector professional over the years......

http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/04/association-of-medical-laboratory-scientists-of-nigeria-rejoinder-to-mdcan-and-assopon


The attention of the Association of Medical
Laboratory Scientists of Nigeria (AMLSN) has
been drawn to the malicious, spurious and
unfounded allegation of harassment and assault
by the Medical and Dental Consultants


Association (MDCAN). In a caption: 'Medical,
dental consultants seek streamlining of health
sector laws, May reject lab results not endorsed
by pathologists' in “The Guardian” newspaper of
st Friday, March 21 2014 page 5, as well as
“Vanguard” newspaper of Wednesday March 26th,
2014 page 46 captioned: 'Medical consultants
allege harassment by hospital laboratory
scientists, threaten to withdraw services if
government fails to guarantee safety'.

AMLSN has further noted the public notice issued
by the Association of Pathologists of Nigeria
(ASSOPON) in the Guardian and Daily Trust
newspapers of Wednesday, April 2, 2014. AMLSN
is compelled to respond to the sentimental
falsehood being peddled by MDCAN and
ASSOPON so as to put the records straight and
avoid a situation where silence is mistaken for
acquiescence.

The facts are as follows:

1. Medical laboratory scientists have neither
harassed nor assaulted anybody in any Nigerian
hospital. It is a well known fact that medical
laboratory scientists are about the most patient,
rationale and law-abiding group of healthcare
professionals in Nigeria. Medical laboratory
scientists have always exercised restraint,
disciplined conducts, rational discourse and
recourse to the law courts for redress whenever
they have been denied their rights. The records
are there to www.medicalworldnigeria.comprove
this assertion: in 1975, our Association won its
case with the Federal Ministry of Health over call
duty allowance both at the Industrial Arbitration
Panel and at the National Industrial Court. It was
also the case in 1992 and 1993. The most recent
is the landmark judgment of the National
Industrial Court of rd Nigeria on the 23 October,
2013 in Suit No. NICN/ABJ/128/2012: Association
of Medical Laboratory Scientists of Nigeria vs.
Hon. Attorney-General of the Federation, Hon.
Minister of Health & others in which the
honourable court ruled and ordered that medical
laboratory science is a distinct healthcare
profession by the laws of the Federal Republic of
Nigeria deserving to be so recognized and to
have its Directorate as enshrined in the statutory
scheme of service.

2. It is laughable that MDCAN and ASSOPON
have resorted to spurious allegations and crying
wolf in order to divert the attention of the public
from its lawless conduct which is fueling the
atmosphere of acrimony and disharmony in the
health sector. The Medical and Dental
Consultants Association has sort to impose its
members to head every imaginable service and
activity in the hospital against clear government
statutory rules and regulations and even
subsisting court judgments. It wants to head
Engineering services, Wards and clinics, Security,
Energy, and Laboratory services etc. in the name
of being the 'only professionals' in the health
sector. The Honourable Minister of Health is
unfortunately and unwittingly aiding and abetting
this clamour by his assertion that the “hospital
is totally the doctors' territory” in the interview
he granted the Guardian newspaper.

3. The public can now appreciate why there has
been vehement resistance by other health
professionals to Section 1, subsection 1 of the
National Health Bill. The subsection seeks to
make the bill the omnibus regulator of all health
professions by usurping the statutory regulatory
mandate of other health laws. It is a concealed
tactic by medical and dental practitioners to
legitimize their opposition to the regulatory
authority of the various health Councils and
Boards to regulate and enforce practice standards
to protect the public. They claim they can and will
practice pharmacy, nursing and midwifery,
medical laboratory science, physiotherapy,
radiography etc. without the regulatory control of
the relevant professional Councils as specied by
law. Lawlessness and impunity at its worst
display! They need to be reminded that orthodox
healthcare practice did not originate from Nigeria.
The continued attempt to obstruct nd prevent the
Pharmacists' Council, Nursing and Midwifery
Council, Medical Laboratory Science Council,
Radiographers Registration Board and indeed all
other regulatory agencies from enforcing practice
standards to protect the public in line with their
statutory mandate by MDCAN is an open
invitation to anarchy in the health sector.

4. The cock and bull story by ASSOPON about the
profession of Medical Laboratory Science
originating from the United States of America is
laughable. It is a fact that, UK colonized Nigeria
as well as the USA. That medical laboratory
practice had its origin in ancient Europe is well
documented; that medical laboratory science has
been practiced in Nigeria since 1922 is
documented. Standing history on its head to
massage bloated ego will serve no useful
purpose. Where and how any profession
originated is not the real issue. Nigeria is a
sovereign country that has subscribed to the rule
of law. No matter where and how any profession
originated, Nigeria has the right to enact laws,
rules and regulations to guide professional
services within its borders. The rule of the thumb,
arbitrariness and impunity in the health sector
which ASSOPON and MDCAN are advocating
breed lawlessness. Flouting court judgments and
court orders by hospital Managements such as
we are witnessing in
the Jos University Teaching Hospital, Jos is a
threat to civilized and orderly conduct which all
professionals worth their salt should always
condemn.

5. Clamoring to countersign laboratory results/
reports of investigations performed by licensed
medical laboratory scientists will add no value
whatsoever to the accuracy or authenticity of the
results. Indeed, international best practice in this
information age is to send medical laboratory
results electronically to the requesting physicians
for prompt diagnostic and therapeutic decisions.
It is pertinent to remind ASSOPON that its
attempt in 1991 to arrest the development and
growth of the profession by closing down
University degree programmes in Medical
Laboratory Science in Nigerian universities failed
woefully. Medical Laboratory Science is a distinct
healthcare profession with clear legal and
professional mandate.

6. Pathologists are licensed physicians trained to
attend to and treat patients with abnormalities in
their areas of specialization. Parading the
corridors in hospitals seeking to countersign
laboratory result forms of work performed by
medical laboratory scientists or struggling to
analyze specimens will in no way improve patient
care. License is original
authority derived from law to perform a specied
task. Medical laboratory scientists are highly
trained professionals empowered by law to do
their job. They are liable under the law for work
done by them. It is on record that
the Medical Defense Union in the UK had advised
pathologists against signing forms of work not
done by them which equates to
intellectual theft/plagiarism.

7. ASSOPON is not concerned about the teeming
Nigerian patients as it is obsessed with the
headship of a sector that is not within its core
professional purview. It is so intensely
embittered by the successful efforts of the
Medical Laboratory Science Council of Nigeria
(MLSCN), a government agency, legally
mandated to reposition Medical Laboratory
Services in the country. A group that pretends to
care about the patients ought to place the
interest of those patients above pecuniary
professional interests, but not so for ASSOPON.

8. The Nigerian High Commissioner to India,
Ambassador Ndubisi Amaku revealed recently that
it cost Nigerian patients a
whopping sum of $350million to access various
levels and sorts of healthcare in India in 2013.
This is an indicting commentary on our
healthcare sector, especially the approach to
disease diagnosis. Rather than worrying about
this unending medical tourism and the efux of
scarce foreign exchange from our country,
ASSOPON seems preoccupied with puerile
polemics about who should head the medical
laboratory.

9. ASSOPON's penchant for unprovoked
aggression is becoming legendary and it is
capable of rubbing negatively on the image of
the entire medical profession. Anyone whose view
on anything is at variance with ASSOPON's own
is a potential target. First it was the respected
Hon. Ndudi Elumelu, Chairman, House Committee
on Health, now it is the US Centres for Disease
Prevention www.medicalworldnigeria.comand
Control and its implementing partners in Nigeria.
Their crime? Supporting MLSCN programmes to
build capacity and upgrade
medical laboratory systems in the country. But
stakeholders are urged to treat such as the fury
of an unsuccessful suitor or the biblical woman
who requested Solomon to cut into two a baby
that is not hers rather than allow the rightful
mother take custody- a mere licking of wounds.
ASSOPON should be reminded that both CDC and
other International Partners are supporting
MLSCN purely on the merit of its various
proposals and mandates. One wonders how
ASSOPON leadership could merit such support
when it cannot correctly dene SLIPTA and SLMTA
even after MLSCN and its partners had trained
eight pathologists including
ASSOPON leadership on the rubrics of these
WHO-driven models for quality laboratory services
in Africa and beyond.

10. ASSOPON accuses CDC of divide and rule; it
attempts to instigate the public and state
governments against the MLSCN efforts to
improve medical laboratories. The group, driven
by pure ignorance or amnesia disregards the fact
that Health is in the concurrent legislative list,
which both federal and state governments share
and in the event of conict, federal laws prevail.
ASSOPON is making a mockery of the law and of
itself by stating thus: “As it stands today, it is
only the MDCN that has the regulatory standards
for different levels of laboratory, and operates in
collaboration with the State Governments in
realization of the fact that the ultimate power
over facilities in the states (other than Federal
Government facilities) resides with the State
Governments”. What really is ASSOPON's point
here if not to imply that MLSCN is at loggerheads
with state agencies? How low can this group
condescend?

11. Not satised with previous albeit unsuccessful
attempts to be recognized by the MLSCN Law
(Cap M25 LFN, 2004) and
later to get the law amended to suit their
purpose; ASSOPON now pretends that the law
does not exist or that its provisions are written
in language pathologists are incapable of
comprehending. The fact remains that the LAW
exists and it places the medical laboratory
scientists squarely in charge of the medical
laboratory.

12. Out of sheer desperation to further denigrate
medical laboratory scientists and score acheap
point, ASSOPON went as low as to dig up the
tragic and highly regrettable HIV case involving
Baby Eniola. This is the height of insensitivity
towards all those affected by that episode. It is,
therefore, pertinent for AMLSN to put the records
straight, and members of the public can verify the
veracity of the story which is as follows: It was
the then HOD Haematology- Dr Okany, a
pathologist that was responsible for the
procurement of the sub-standard HIV kits used for
the ill-fated test in Baby Eniola's HIV saga at
LUTH. Other processes and infrastructures such
as cold chain and unsuitable laboratory work
climate etc. were ignored by the Management.
But in the end, four medical laboratory scientists
were punished (Mr Ayelari, Mr Adeniyi, Mrs
Kazeem (retired compulsorily) while Mr Onifade
was demoted for not taking full charge of the
Haematology laboratory service in line with the
FGN approved Scheme of Service for medical
laboratory scientists. The primary assignment of
the then HOD, Dr Okany in the College was not
affected at all. His appointment as Consultant
was not terminated; instead, he was merely
removed as HOD and replaced with Dr Akanmu-
another pathologist.
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 12:09am On Jul 12, 2014
........Advanced careers


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Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 12:02am On Jul 12, 2014
this is part of the mission statement of the University of Delaware, Department of Medical Laboratory Sciences

Medical Laboratory Science (Biomedical
Sciences) is related to the prevention, diagnosis
and therapy of disease through the understanding,
application, and performance of clinical laboratory
analyses. This major prepares students for
national certification as medical laboratory
scientists through the American Society for
Clinical Pathology Board of Certification (ASCP
BOC).

The curriculum is a four-year undergraduate,
professional program, accredited by the National
Accrediting Agency for Clinical Laboratory
Sciences (NAACLS). The major prepares students
for career entry into the medical laboratory
profession. In addition to working as clinical
professionals, UD medical laboratory science
graduates are doing research and development,
sales, and technical consulting. Other professional
career paths include medicine and physician
assistant.

Currently, more than 50 percent of the medical
laboratory scientists employed in Delaware’s
medical laboratories are graduates of UD’s
program, the only four-year program in the state.


http://www.udel.edu/mls/



This shows, they can go into technical consulting. is not on their jobs they will become consultants. Of course with the necessary stringent requirements necessary.

Are you saying those working in an hospital must quit their hospital jobs first before they can aspire to be consultants?
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 11:53pm On Jul 11, 2014
ms. BugLady's Path... A
Career in Laboratory
Science
Sally S. Cherry, BS, MT
(ASCP)...


Experiencing the Career Path as an ASCP-certified Medical Technologist

While in high school, my primary career goal
was to become a certified Medical
Technologist. Thanks to a tenth grade biology
teacher, I was introduced to the exciting
world of laboratory science . "Ms. BugLady's
World" evolved because this perceptive
teacher encouraged students to pursue their
career interests. These actions lead to my
present work with middle and high school
students... introducing them to various
laboratory and technology careers.

Upon graduation, I attended Morgan State
University located in Baltimore, Maryland. At
Morgan State(MSU), I majored in Medical
Technology and completed my medical
technology training at Union Memorial
Hospital - School of Medical Technology
(UMH-MT). After a twelve-month internship, I
received a Bachelor of Science degree in
Medical Technology from MSU, and a
Certificate in Medical Technology from UMH-
MT.

After college, I worked in medical research at
the Carnegie Institute of Washington -
Department of Embrology . During this time, I
took and passed the Board of Registry of the
American Society of Clinical Pathologists
(ASCP) national certification exam for medical
technologists. I had accomplished my primary
career goal... to become a certified Medical
Technologist. I had earned the right to use
the initials, "MT(ASCP)", after my name to
show proficiency in medical technology.
Shortly after, I accepted a medical
technologist position in the Bacteriology Lab
at a local hospital. Another goal had been
reached... to work in medical microbiology
with "the bugs".

In the early 70s, a patient's death due to a
disseminated gonococcal infection propelled
my interest toward the management of
sexually transmitted diseases. This interest
lead to graduate work in community health,
and the decision to enter public health. The
delivery of laboratory services in STD clinics
became my professional focus. After several
years as a bench medical technologist, I
entered public health as the laboratory
coordinator at the Baltimore City Health
Department - Bureau of Disease Control under
the supervision of Dr. David Glasser and Dr.
John Hume.

Through the work in public health, I
discovered another career opportunity...
medical laboratory training. My professional
goal is to help others understand how and
why various laboratory procedures are
performed in the identification of
microorganisms commonly associated with
sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) and
sexually transmitted infections (STIs). Over
the years, medical laboratory training have
lead to opportunities in laboratory consulting,
international travel, and long-distance
technology.


The laboratory consulting work lead to
assignments as a national medical trainer,
and an international medical consultant. The
various "field" assignments enabled me to
work with other medical professionals in
Turkey , Kenya, Egypt , and Uganda . These
assignments have been challenging and
rewarding experiences.
The critical role of the medical laboratory
offers unlimited career opportunities . It is true
that...
In a career full of options,
many choices cultivated the diverse world of
"Ms. BugLady"!


http://cherrynetwork.weebly.com/lab-career-path.html


If you worked in a teaching hospital for 20 years, is not on your job that you will become a consultant.

Is it when an organisation like WHO etc comes and they want the service of a consultant, you'll tell them: though Ivhave experience of 25 years, I have not being able to become a consultant. But you just take me on, after 3 years, I will just become a consultant by virtue of my many years of experience as Chief medical laboratory scientist in UCH.....
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 11:36pm On Jul 11, 2014
pharmacist - Job description

Hospital pharmacists
Job Description

Hospital Pharmacist work in a hospital pharmacy
service, primarily within the public sector. They
are experts in the field of medicines and are not
only responsible for the dispensing of
prescriptions but also the purchase, manufacture
and quality testing of all medicines used in a
hospital. Many hospital pharmacists are qualified
to prescribe in their own right. Pharmacists work
closely with medical and nursing staff to ensure
that patients receive the best treatment, advising
on the selection, dose and administration route.

They also provide help and advice to patients in
all aspects of their
medicines. The role of a hospital pharmacist can
extend outside the hospital with responsibility for
medicines in health centres, nursing homes,
hospices and general practitioners' (GP)
surgeries.

Typical work activities Hospital pharmacists are
medicine experts and tasks may include: checking
prescriptions to ensure that there are no errors
and that they are appropriate and safe for
the individual patient; providing advice on the
dosage of medicines and the most appropriate
form of medication, for example, tablet, injection,
ointment or inhaler; participating in ward rounds,
taking patient drug histories and involvement in
decision-making on
appropriate treatments; liaising with other
medical staff on problems
patients may experience when taking their
medicines; discussing treatments with patients'
relatives,

community pharmacists and GPs;
ensuring medicines are stored appropriately and
securely;
supervising the work of less experienced and less
qualified staff;
answering questions about medicines from within
the hospital, other hospitals and the general
public; keeping up to date with, and contributing
to, research and development; writing guidelines
for drug use within the hospital and implementing
hospital regulations;
providing information on expenditure on drugs;
preparing and quality-checking sterile
medications, for example, intravenous
medications;
setting up and supervising clinical trials.

More experienced pharmacists may be involved in
teaching, both within the pharmacy department
and in other areas of the hospital.

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/
hospital_pharmacist_job_description.htm
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 11:33pm On Jul 11, 2014
What pharmacists do and where
they work

Pharmacy is not just about filling prescriptions. it
is about promoting health awareness and
contributing to the betterment of the community.

Pharmacists may: prepare or supervise the
dispensing of medicines, ointments and tablets
advise patients on how their medicines are to be
taken or used in the safest and most effective
way in the treatment of common ailments advise
members of the public and other health
professionals about medicines (both prescription
and over-the-counter medicines), including
appropriate selection, dosage and drug
interactions, potential side effects and therapeutic
effects select, give advice on and supply non-
prescription medicine, sickroom supplies and
other products develop legally recognised
standards, and advise on government controls
and regulations concerning the manufacture and
supply of medicines work in the research and
development of medicines and other health-
related products be involved in the management
of pharmaceutical companies.

Community pharmacists dispense prescriptions,
provide advice on drug selection and usage to
doctors and other health professionals, primary
healthcare advice and support, and educating
customers on health promotion, disease
prevention and the proper use of medicines..

Consultant pharmacists are either employed by
community pharmacies or hospitals, or are self-
employed and contract with community
pharmacies to provide medication reviews for
residential care or ambulatory care patients and/
or other medication-related cognitive services.

Hospital pharmacists operate as part of a
healthcare team and are involved in monitoring
medication usage, counseling patients, providing
drug information and advice to health
professionals and the community, conducting
clinical trials and preparing products for patient
use. They usually have a lot of contact with other
health professionals and members of the public.
Industrial pharmacists undertake research and the
development, manufacture, testing, analysis
and marketing of pharmaceutical and medical
products.

Outside the square and going places: Pharmacists
also work as locums and in fields such as the
military, law, journalism, academic
teaching, research, pharmaceutical policy and in
rural and remote areas, and even abroad.


http://www.psa.org.au/about/pharmacy-as-a-
career/what-pharmacists-do-and-where-they-
work
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 10:41pm On Jul 11, 2014
armadeo: if you own your private establishment according to the lawless Nigeria you can call yourself what you want but in the govt hospital its a no. answer the above op and lets take it from there.
I get it now; you guys want a different set of rules for Naija.


it doesn't matter what's happening in other countries, your own is that it must happen here for Naija.

As much as I try to see your points which is vituperated through so many fine grammar and eloquent writing, I can't get past the fact that your struggle is about self centeredness.

You wish to establish a caste system in Nigeria health sector which is not obtained in advances countries. Reminds of the caste system of white vs black before the whole thing crashed.

Dress it with embroidery however you like, the truth is your mission is self-serving, stop pretending you're doing because of any patients.
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 5:30pm On Jul 11, 2014
[quote author=jpphilips][/quote]@jppohilips


I strongly disagree with you that we should leave Canada, US, UK out of it. Why should we? Why should other health professionals be able to become consultants in other countries but in Nigeria it must not be so because of the insecurities or fear of doctors.

What should be done I say again is to address those fear and securities. You can't say no no no... this must never be.

The way I see it, doctors are trying to be in Nigeria what their counterpart are not in other countries.

How come the consultants of other countries have not taken over patient care over from the doctors? Whatever is that reason. it should be replicated here.

But I know you're are not interested in any of this. Let me tell you. The world is changing. Repression will always give way to the pressure of change.

For how long do you think doctors can prevent other health professionals from becoming consultants. If there are becoming consultants in other parts of the world, then eventually, doctors will not be able to stop it from happening in Nigeria. Try and learn something from history. It's just a matter of time.

The earlier doctors comes to terms with this the better.
Health › Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by double0seven(m): 1:42pm On Jul 11, 2014
jpphilips: I[b] HAVE SAID IT OVER TIME! JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO AN OPINION DOES NOT MEAN IT IS WORTHY OF PUBLIC CONSUMPTION, SOME OPINION ARE BETTER OFF AT THE BEER PARLOR OR YABA LEFT DEPENDING ON WHERE THE CRANIAL MATTER TOOK A LEAVE.
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For the umpteenth time, Doctors are not asking other fields not to have consultants, neither are they asking them not to strike for salary increment, Doctors are saying that their consultancy is higher than theirs so when you bring yours to the hospital, the Doctor still owns the patient.

Doctors were asked; why like dat? (in Chinese voice) and they said that the Academic curriculum they use to attain to that level is too broad and the other fields are narrowed so they shouldn't be apar. now I have looked at the merits of their arguments and the Doctors are right. (it depends on your IQ level anyways).

You cannot study radiography, specialize in radiography, learn technical certifications on how to fix and maintain X ray machines then you come and say you want to become a consultant, Bros, if you have sense (which I doubt anyways) it is an Insult to doctors and the Federal Govt is so drunk, stup!!d and senseless to allow that injustice to happen.

When I called into a radio programme last night I asked the theater nurse who is the guest on the programme,

Why don't you want to expand your curriculum so that as an experienced Theater nurse you will have the opportunity of being a surgeon?

Nurse: We are not allowed to do that

Me: who are the "we"?

Nurse: Our various Unions and other medical regulatory bodies.

Me: Those unions are supposed to be protecting your interest just like the NMA is protecting the Doctors, why will such a Union impede your academic growth and professionalism?

Nurse: That is left for the nursing guild to answer

Me: how many times have nurses gone on strike this year be it warning or indefinite?

Nurse: once or twice im not sure

me: what were their demands?

Nurse: better work package etc

Me: and you guys forgot the most important thing that would develop your career to be apar with doctors and other health care professionals,
which will help the patient in various ways, eg is when a surgeon/theater nurse is in the clinic and an emergency case comes in, don't you think that the theater nurse/surgeon can save that life in the absence of the doctor?

Nurse: We have to attend to other callers.

From the above conversation, this whole strike is just petty politics and unmerited power tussle, my own annoyance is that people who want to live and earn like consultants refuse to broaden their curriculum to acquire more knowledge but they want to enjoy like people who have accomplished theirs.

It is clear that JOHESU whatever they are called are thieves.

You join the Nigerian Army through Direct short service while your counterpart goes through 5yrs NDA of intensive drilling, yet you want your benefits to be a par?

You join the Nigerian police force today and next year you want to be DIG1, is life that easy for Africans?
why do we love shortcuts?

You sleep 24hrs in a day on Sunday armed with your tithe, you expect the "windows of heaven to open" because Malachi told you so, even God will charge you for cheating his kingdom if you ever get such unmerited favor.
Doctors are not saying others should not be consultants? Are u sure about that? From all we've been hearing it does seems so.

Then I refuse to believe that nurses, pharmacists etc. are dragging superiority in patient care with doctors.

Then I've said before, medical practice didn't start in Nigeria; do other health professionals in US, UK, Canada become consultants? It seems they do.

If so, why should it be a taboo in Nigeria. I understand in Nigeria, we always like to abuse the system, therefore rules, regulations, and stringent requirement only need to be put into place so that there won't be abuse or any health professional overstepping his/her bounds.

But to put a blanket no no no on any other health professional apart from doctors becoming consultant doesn't seem right.

With the right rules, regulations and requirements put in place, it means not every dick & harry will become consultants. Among these other health professionals, we will have people that are geniuses amongst them. They should be able to aspire to the peak of their careers, making use of the benefits that comes from being recognized as a consultant in your field.
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Nairaland General › Re: Girl Born Without A Face by double0seven(m): 11:04am On Jul 11, 2014
50calibre: I watched a documentary on this guy some years ago, his name is Jono Lancaster, he was born with Treacher Collins Syndrome and his parents too embarrassed to deal with his condition, gave him up for adoption.

He grew up facing rejection and discrimination because of his looks, now his face looks better because over the years, he's undergone multiple face reconstructions.

As of when I watched this documentary, he and his pretty girlfriend were facing a dilemma. They planned to conceive but there was a good chance of passing the disease to their offspring so they had to seek specialist private treatment which involved scientifically isolating & eliminating the defective genes & then injecting them into an already harvested egg, it was painful to watch them go through such agony.

Is it worth it? Pro lifers should go to hell, man must takes steps to improve the quality of the human specie & that involves eliminating congenital diseases where possible.
I see this as massive stupidity. If the woman can sacrifice so much as to Marty him with his looks, then he could have offered the little sacrifice of telling the woman to get pregnant to artificial insemination.


What is the pride of showing off another daughter with similar disfigured face. Imagine what kind of life she'll go through.

I say it again..... this is very stupid......
Nairaland General › Re: Girl Born Without A Face by double0seven(m): 10:58am On Jul 11, 2014
Personally I've always felt that there are some babies that should put to sleep at birth.... to spare the a miserable life. It's just that people are too emotional about some of these things.

for instance, a baby born without any limbs, no hands no legs..... what is the point of keeping a such a baby alive. is it not better for such a baby to return back to God.....

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