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Dsimmer:
Nah. Yoruba's Eurasian admix is much older than both North Africans and North East Africans 😆

As a matter of fact, Ile Ife is the beginning of all Yoruba, even as always stated by Ifa which is the only true source of Yoruba history📍 Btw, Ifa also added that Yoruba ancestors have been through several Ife but everywhere Yoruba first settled, it's always named Ife which is the beginning of all Yoruba. Strangely, the first home of the Israel is also named "Ber'sheva" 🧐 The Israelites also have the same word as Yoruba for "beginning" which is Bereshesh similar to Yoruba's "Ibere/Beresheshe" for "Beginning". It's even strange how Ber'sheva is similar to the word "Ibere sese Ife" which Ifa always says as the "beginning" of Yoruba's origin.

As a matter of fact, Yoruba have several Jewish words as you already noticed and the funny thing is Yoruba never traded with the Jewish. Lol. Yoruba also practice "Akobi" twin culture of making the second born of the twins the "Akobi" of the twins which is exactly as the case of J(akob)📌

On the fossil found in Iho eleru, no one knows the DNA of the fossil nor whether it's even an animal mammal fossil to begin with but one fact known is Ondo and Ekiti came from Ile Ife which is the beginning of all Yoruba.

Hence, my theory which is either the Yoruba could be ancient people doing their things or the Yoruba parted early from the Jews in the old BC timeline since Ile Ife is BC.

Alba3:
Although many would always opposed to this based on their myopic view. However, I want to state here that the Yoruba people of today were not of one origin; of recent were people from Baruba, Nupe, etc origins.

The most ancient among the Yorubas were the Urahurẹs (Ara urẹ/wẹwẹ) as we called them in Ekiti; some said they were pygmies, others said they were Koisans. These groups ancestors made those marks you find on the rocks in Iṣarun, around present Ondo and Ekiti States. Also those Archeological discoveries in Iwo Ẹlẹru. They populated this region before the coming of Ulesuns.

The Ulesuns as we referred to them were not just one group but the most popular ones gave Yorubas most of their religion and traditions. The Ogun, Obatala, Orunmila, Láàlu, Agboniregun, etc. They shared almost same origin with Crete, Greeks and some of the Phoenicians, etc. They migrated earlier to settle in W/Africa particularly Ife, Ado Ekiti, Ikole and most parts of present Osun, Ekiti, Ondo, Kogi and Edo. They actually came with story of first Ife establishment in the Mediterranean. Other Kemet groups like kwararafa, kenem, Igala started joining them, the Igala in particular and some of these groups also moved to Edo and the Niger Delta (Obagodo of Igodomigodo, the Oru peoplem etc

The last major people that made up Yoruba and which formed most of the ruling class now were Semitic and the first group among them came from Mesopotamia, there were others from northeastern part of Africa, etc. (you can research the initial crises of some of Ọmọ Ọwá Ọbas in Ekiti vs Oore of Ọtun). Majority of these groups didn't originally intermarried with the other groups they met on ground, they married from themselves until it wasn't possible again. The organised the region monarchically, expand and rule over Ulesun villages. They reshape some of the traditions pertaining to naming, circumcision, etc... Some great ones among them retook Ulesun greatmen's names.

Many groups came from present northern Sudan and Oromo region of Ethiopia. Some Phoenicians who had become Christians also came later through the Sea and joined up, reasons we have Morèmi and Èlà, ọjọ Ẹtì, Ọjọ Abameta and Aiku mixed up.
There was fusion of the religion of the first Semitic group with that of Ulesuns. The language of the the Ulesuns that was a mixture with Kemet, because of so many groups from kemet, also prevalent.

It's due to the above we have multiple oral tradition of our origin. We are one people now, very proud one! Most don't wants to really associate with anything Semitic because of the two new religions and their rivalry. It now depends on which history one believes or imposes on others... because some don't want to research anything but hold to just one of these origins, nothing more, nothing less...

Dsimmer:
Lmao. Did you notice where it's stated that Ishmael would first enjoy some ascendancy but will dissipate away? Even as it was already stated that Ishmael would be a terrorist.

You know what's quite strangely funny is the "Bereshsh" word which is the Jewish word for beginning. "Ibere sese" is also the Yoruba word for "beginning".

As a matter of fact, Arab Christians' name for God was previously ilah derived from the Jewish's elah. As a matter of fact, Jewish names for God are (elyon, elowah, elah, elohim) and yahweh of course. While Arab name for the almighty was previously "ilah" derived from the Jewish "elah" until Mohammad came with allah which is derived from allat. In fact, Mohammad had nothing in his brain except sex and terrorism 😒 Mohammad simply misled his fellow Arabs. In fact, the promise of 72 virgin sex objects should have told any reasonable brain that Mohammad was a useless man.

Meanwhile, I will use Yoruba knowledge to expatiate the name of God to show you that Elowah/Elah is Yahweh.

First, Eledumare is an invisible spirit whose begotten child is his visible manifestation. Basically, the begotten child known as Ela Omoloju Olodumare is the visible manifestation of Eledumare who's a spirit💥 This begotten child (also known as "Orun mo Ela"- Orunmila) is revealed as a vessel which embodies Eledumare who's a spirit. Hence, Ela as the primordial vessel is known as the primordial Oduduwa which embodies Obatala (Oba-ti-Ela) which is the fundamental of Eledumare to create the universe.

As a matter of fact, Obatala (Oba ti Ela) is known as "Iwaye" which is the fundamental of Eledumare who's known as Ayeraye. So basically, the primordial Oduduwa which is the primordial vessel embodies Obatala to create the universe. Hence both Obatala and Oduduwa represent one entity. As a matter of fact, Obatala's vessel is Oduduwa hence why Oduduwa is regarded as Adimula because Oduduwa is Obatala's vessel. Now, did you observe where I stated that Obatala (Oba Ti Ela) is known as "Iwaye" which is the fundamental of Eledumare who's known as Ayeraye?

That is, Oba Ti Ela (Eledumare) = Iwaye (Ayeraye) whose vessel is Oduduwa which embodies Eledumare to create the universe.

Basically, Iwaye/Ayeraye = Yahweh!

Dsimmer:
Meanwhile, let me add that I wouldn't even say Ishmael enjoy much ascendancy over Israel sef except if Ishmael's ascendancy meant that the Jewish were dispersed from their Israel territory into Europe📌 however, Christianity became spread in Europe who established Christianity on the belief of Jesus (Yesu is coined from Yahweh) and his disciples.

Dsimmer:
Lmao. Did you notice where it's stated that Ishmael would first enjoy some ascendancy but will dissipate away? Even as it was already stated that Ishmael would be a terrorist.

You know what's quite strangely funny is the "Bereshsh" word which is the Jewish word for beginning. "Ibere sese" is also the Yoruba word for "beginning".

As a matter of fact, Arab Christians' name for God was previously ilah derived from the Jewish's elah. As a matter of fact, Jewish names for God are (elyon, elowah, elah, elohim) and yahweh of course. While Arab name for the almighty was previously "ilah" derived from the Jewish "elah" until Mohammad came with allah which is derived from allat. In fact, Mohammad had nothing in his brain except sex and terrorism 😒 Mohammad simply misled his fellow Arabs. In fact, the promise of 72 virgin sex objects should have told any reasonable brain that Mohammad was a useless man.

Meanwhile, I will use Yoruba knowledge to expatiate the name of God to show you that Elowah/Elah is Yahweh.

First, Eledumare is an invisible spirit whose begotten child is his visible manifestation. Basically, the begotten child known as Ela Omoloju Olodumare is the visible manifestation of Eledumare who's a spirit💥 This begotten child is revealed as a vessel which embodies Eledumare who's a spirit. Hence, Ela as the primordial vessel is known as the primordial Oduduwa which embodies Obatala (Oba-ti-Ela) which is the fundamental of Eledumare to create the universe.

As a matter of fact, Obatala (Oba ti Ela) is known as "Iwaye" which is the fundamental of Eledumare who's known as Ayeraye. So basically, the primordial Oduduwa which is the primordial vessel embodies Obatala to create the universe. Hence both Obatala and Oduduwa represent one entity. As a matter of fact, Obatala's vessel is Oduduwa hence why Oduduwa is regarded as Adimula because Oduduwa is Obatala's vessel. Now, did you observe where I stated that Obatala (Oba Ti Ela) is known as "Iwaye" which is the fundamental of Eledumare who's known as Ayeraye?

That is, Oba Ti Ela (Eledumare) = Iwaye (Ayeraye) whose vessel is Oduduwa which embodies Eledumare to create the universe.

Basically, Iwaye/Ayeraye = Yahweh!

Qasim6:
Qur'an 112
Say: He, Allah is one
Allah the Sustainer
He begets not nor is He begotten
And there is none comparable to Him.

The name of God in Islam is Allah with all the several names He used to describe Himself in the Qur'an.
Unfortunately u don't even know if Yahweh is the correct pronunciation of YHWH.

The Arabs always identify Allah as the supreme being before Islam and Allah was not worshiped as Idol, it is the same name Arab Christians used for God before Islam, and most likely the Jews of Medina would have used the same name for God.

If it is not true they sabotage the Muslims then tell us what actually happened.

No bro, it is a known fact that the usage of Pharaoh for kings in Egypt only dates to the New kingdom era and not 3150BCE. The kings at the time of Abraham and the time Joseph were not called Pharaohs.

The Encyclopaedia Britannica states:
“Pharaoh, (from Egyptian per ʿaa, “great house”), originally, the royal palace in ancient Egypt. The word came to be used metonymically for the Egyptian king under the New Kingdom (starting in the 18th dynasty1539–1292 BCE), and by the 22nd dynasty (c. 945–c. 730 BCE) it had been adopted as an epithet of respect. It was never the king’s formal title, though, and its modern use as a generic name for all Egyptian kings is based on the usage of the Hebrew Bible.”�

Qasim6:
Well, Allah is the name by wish God revealed himself to Muhammad and he did not revealed himself as YHWH to Abraham too, so there is nothing funny about that.. what is actually funny is how the correct pronunciation of YHWH became forgotten.

Guy stop making stuff up, there are Jews that accepted Islam during the life time of the Prophet and he did not declare them unbelievers. Even Christians with their many Gods were not declared unbelievers. They are called People of the book in the Qur'an
The Muslims only begin to fight the Jews when they started sabotaging the Muslims like what the banu Qurayza did.

The decipher of the Egyptian hieroglyphs in the 18th century have shown that the Qur’an’s use of the terms ‘Pharaoh’ and ‘King’ in relation to Egypt is historically accurate.

Qur'an only use Pharaoh when speaking of Moses encounter with Egyptian king and used King when talking about Abraham and Joseph encounter with Egyptian kings.

Pharaoh only started being used as a title for the king much later in Egyptian history, during the New Kingdom period (1550-1069 BCE).

But the Bible used Pharaoh for the kings Abraham and Joseph encounter in Egypt.

Qasim6:

Na just this copy and paste every where
Sorry dear, u'll be okay.

Qasim6:
The guy is a lunatic. I'm suprise you are associating with a lunatic.

Just take a look at his comments, he has been doing the copy and paste for years.

Or you both share the same ward?

Qasim6:
Sorry

Take good care of yourself.

Qasim6:
Guy u sure say u never dey craze like this?

You should probably tell people around you to take u to a hospital..

It is not looking good for you.

AntiChristian:
Na Holy Spirit inspire all this thrash in you?
Chai! It's stale news! Go use your drugs!

Dsimmer:
It's Pedophilic Arab terrorist Mohammad and his Allah who are both in hell na. Imagine the Pedophile idiot Mohammad championing sexual desires such as 72 virgin sex objects in a supposed heaven? Lol. That should have told any reasonable brain that Mohammad was useless. The Pedophile terrorist Criminal!

Btw, it's not Isa but Yesu. That's what the Ethiopians (who were even Christians before the Europeans) call Jesus. They also said he died and resurrected.

As a matter of fact, pedophilic Arab terrorist Mohammad who came 600 years later had nothing to write about the exploits of his Arab ancestors which were Ishmael descendants thus had to plagiarize the already written Jewish history (Jacob and Jacob's descendants) which had nothing to do with him in the first place, considering he's not Jacob's descendant. Arab Mohammad is an Ishmael's descendant and should have written about the exploits of Ishmael's descendants who are his ancestors. The Jewish history (Jacob and Jacob's descendants) had nothing to do with Arab Mohammad who's Ishmael's descendant.