These two make it clear that Islam permits marriage and consummation I.e nacking with no lower age limit Even a girl who us breastfeeding can be backed in Islam
Oga, you are reading the verses but not understanding them. That is the problem.
Qur'an 65:4 is not telling people to marry children. It is talking about iddah (waiting period) AFTER divorce. The verse is simply listing categories so that no case is left out legally. Mentioning a situation does not mean promoting it.
Even Ibn Kathir and al-Tabari explained this clearly: The Qur'an often regulates existing realities instead of pretending they never existed. Same way it regulated slavery without encouraging it.
Regulation is not permission.
Now let us be logical.
Islam does not allow marriage or consummation without ability and safety. This is basic fiqh.
Qur'an 4:6 says maturity must be tested before responsibility is given
Scholars agree marriage requires bulugh (maturity) and qudrah (ability)
The legal rule is clear: "La darar wa la dirar" no harm allowed
If harm is guaranteed, it becomes haram, full stop.
Qur'an 33:49 This verse only says that if a marriage ends before consummation, there is no iddah. It does not mention age. It does not permit anything. You are forcing meaning into the verse.
That breastfeeding talk you added? That one is pure internet exaggeration. No classical scholar says Islam allows physical relations with someone who cannot physically bear it. That claim is not Islam, it is propaganda.
So let us summarise simply:
The Qur'an does not command child marriage
The Qur'an does not permit harm
Marriage in Islam requires maturity and safety
Context and principles matter, not cherry-picking verses
If you still disagree, bring one respected classical scholar who clearly said:
Gajagojo: That is not evidence that is explanation You go explanation tire
In Islam the offspring of Zina is not recognised So such a girl is NOT A daughter in Islam
This is established in Shariah
“Al‑walad lil‑firāsh
Imam al-Shāfiʿī
The well-known Maliki position
A report from Imam Ahmad
Reasoning
Maḥramiyyah follows legal nasab, not mere biological origin.
Since zina produces no recognized lineage, it produces no maḥram relationship.
Islamic law deliberately severed legal consequences of zina to deter it.
The child is legally unrelated to the man
This means. He can marry her
If you are truly a Muslim, then this statement of yours is deeply embarrassing and shows you are speaking without knowledge, which Allah explicitly warned against.
You are repeating fragments of fiqh without understanding what they apply to, and that is a dangerous trait.
Yes, zina does not establish nasab. That is agreed upon. But only someone ignorant of basic Islamic jurisprudence would jump from that to saying marriage is allowed.
Nasab rulings and hurmat al-nikah are two completely different chapters of fiqh. Any student of knowledge knows this.
Your claim collapses immediately in front of the scholars:
Imam al-Nawawi (Shafi'i) said clearly: "It is haram for a man to marry a girl created from his semen, whether through halal or haram." (Sharh Sahih Muslim)
Ibn Qudamah (Hanbali) said: "If the child is created from his water, she is forbidden to him forever, even if nasab is not established." (al-Mughni)
Imam Malik explicitly prohibited marrying the child of zina despite denying nasab, because prohibition is based on biological origin, not inheritance.
Your misuse of al-walad lil-firash exposes the problem perfectly. That hadith deals with lineage disputes, not marriage permissibility. Quoting it here is not evidence, it is confusion.
Islam did not remove nasab from zina children to open the door to incest. Claiming that is an insult to Shariah itself.
So now, stop hiding behind explanations and bring ONE explicit reference from a recognized scholar that states:
"A man may marry the girl produced from his semen."
Not reasoning. Not logic. Not your opinion.
A clear citation.
Until you produce that, your claim is baseless, rejected by the majority of scholars, and rooted in ignorance.
Maḥramiyyah follows legal nasab, not mere biological origin.
Since zina produces no recognized lineage, it produces no maḥram relationship.
Islamic law deliberately severed legal consequences of zina to deter it.
The child is legally unrelated to the man
This means. He can marry her
This claim is false. Islam does not allow a man to marry his biological daughter, even if she was born from zina. Qur'an 4:23 forbids marrying one's daughters without exception. Zina removes inheritance, not marriage prohibition. This view contradicts Qur'an, Sunnah, and scholarly consensus.
I honestly wonder how people who do not study authentic Islamic books feel confident spreading claims like this.
You are not citing the Qur'an, Sahih hadith, or recognized scholars. You are repeating internet claims and misused quotations, many of which originate from Islamophobic sources designed to make Islam look immoral.
If you are not Muslim, not trained in Islamic scholarship, and not referencing classical fiqh works, then you have no authority to speak on Islamic rulings. Reading random posts online does not make something a valid Islamic position.
Islam has clear sources, clear methodology, and clear scholarly consensus. Fabricating or recycling distorted narrations and then attributing them to Islam is intellectually dishonest and only exposes bias, not truth.
If you want to discuss Islam, do it from authentic sources, not Islamophobic propaganda masquerading as scholarship
If Ayatollah is killed by any of the two terrorist nations US or Israel, e go touch everybody. From America to Europe, from Asia to Africa, everybody go collect from Iran.
hotwax: It's not your fault, it's Trump that was caging Netanyahu that we need to blame.
Netanyahu would have ended this nonsense since if not for the stupid Nobel Prize award Trump was chasing. Peaceful president. There is no way a US president can be peaceful.
I guess he is learning the hard way
Your messiah is caging no one but himself ever since realty hitam
Dogalmighty17: The USS Abraham Lincoln and its associated support ships and submarines arrived the middle East yesterday. This increases the options for strikes Donald Trump has. I'd be very worried if I was a member of the Iranian Republican Guard now.
But outside the devastating fire power and aircraft carrier strike group possesses, Iran should be worried more about the kind of weapon that the US used in Venezuela. A weapon that allowed just 20 US soldiers kill over 300 Cuban troops guarding Maduro. The world never knew of the existence of such a weapon and no one outside the US military command knows just how it works.
The US used a targeted ultrasonic weapon that incapacitated hundreds of Cuban soldiers protecting Maduro. None of them could raise their weapons to fire as US soldiers entered the compound Maduro was in. A good number of them started bleeding from the eyes, ears and nose. But they couldn't see what it was that was making them bleed. And yet, Maduro himself was not affected.
Some military analysts are saying that this weapon can be so specifically targeted that 2 men can stand side by side and only one of them can receive the ultrasound wave and the other man will not even be aware anything is going on. Over the years, whispers of such a terrible weapon have been floating around but it seemed so outlandish that no one was really willing to entertain the possibility of its existence. But then again, no one believed stealth helicopters could exist until the US used 5 of them to go after Bin Laden and those helicopters were made in 1984 but classified. No one else knows what the US has come up with since then.
I don't see Trump striking Iran just yet. But the man is erratic and totally unmoored to any form of logical thought. No one knows what will set him off.
What kind of people are you? Iran hasn't been afraid of the U.S. for over a decade. They aren't like you they have been encircled by U.S. bases for the past twenty years. The U.S. has struck them multiple times, but they still have not started being afraid. So what is new now? P.S. The U.S. is not as mighty to them as it was to you.
mattb1: When the Irans 🇮🇷 said Israel used juju una no talk and confess di destruction dat Israel did una no talk. So una de select wetin to talk on about Israel 🇮🇱? So all the top Generals and scientists of Iran that were killed by Israel which made the leader you claimed was far ahead of them ran into hiding
sailor2011: The psycho son may have a grouse to settle with the father and decided to take it out on family members and relatives...If there was a homicide before now , what did the father do ? Perhaps , negligence and indifference actually led to this current atrocitiy...chai 😭😭😭😭
Reminds years back in the early 90’s , my late dad, mum and I were on our way to our farm. At the local airport Ikeja.
Then there was this guy I used to be very much afraid of , Who was my senior in both primary and secondary school
This guy has been looking for how to deal with me because I often called him amuka ( finger sucker) he sucked his finger then. Then the opportunity for him to attack showed since I was with my folks , dad and mom were ahead of me and I was at the back, I was scared like shvt.
Then upon sighting me, he tried to bounce on me like leopard , I knew if I had to let this guy beat me my parents will taunt me with the scenario for the rest of my especially when I bullied my younger siblings 😂.
Guy I just device a means like lifting him up immediately I find the chance. Omo na so me and guy man fall yakata inside Dry gutter but the one that has 💩 poop na so shvt rub my guy for body.
My dad and mom( dad especially) were so surprised to see us fighting and asked what happened I told them he’s been bullying me in school and won’t stop.
Since that day anytime the guy see me he would look at me and hiss and go his way. Even last year my mom still reminds me of this incident 😂
Astromania: Mugus! e be like una no know say ISRAEL has long range high Precision Missiles: Jericho2 series can reach almost any where in d globe & it's very deadly.
So if Israel wanted to match Iran madness for madness, many of u ppl will be crying for Iran
And for ur info, during dat 12 day war, Israel decimated upto 70percent of Iran Missile launchers dat d rockets🚀 they were firing @ Israel kept on reducing & reducing drastically, sowtey @ a point they were firing only 3.
Don't forget that with d Air Superiority achieved over Iran, if Israel wanted to fry Iran civilians d casualties go enter hundreds of thousands to millions. But they were disciplined & sticked to their script: neutralize every nuclear ability & kpai key military officials & Scientists.
At a point about 100 Israeli jets were heading to defenceless Iran in fury to have a field day, Donald Trump had to turn dem back.