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brocab:
[color=#000099]And in your case you would rather pray to Mary-you ask Her to mediate for you so Jesus will forgive you, plus Mary wasn't a Virgin after she had other children after Jesus.

No, sir. You've either been ignoring what I've been writing, or are just sorely mistaken. I have no fears in praying to God directly, but when I want my prayers to be extra powerful, I seek Mary's intercession. Mary is in Heaven, thus a saint. The saints are still members of the Body of Christ because death doesn't cut them off from the Church. I'll cite some verses later.
Remember that in that passage from Tim. that I gave you, St Paul said "intercession" -- praying [directly] to God on someone's behalf, in this case -- pleases God. Do check verse 4 of the passage, pls.

brocab:
Jesus didn't founded the Church, He is the Church, and He didn't find the Church on Peter, He found the Church on the words Peter spoke, God the Father used Peter to say truly you are the Son of the living God, this is the word of God that built His Church, the body of Christ is the Church.
Not some religious building made of Brick and mortar you call Rome...
[color=#000099]Again an interpreter had changed the scriptures,around so you believe.

This is from Eph. 1: "22. And he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church , 23. which is his body , the fullness of him who fills all in all." The emphasis is mine. I hope you now see that the Church is His body. You can look at that passage in "your" bible to get the whole idea of who he was referring to.
Please what interpreter are you referring to? And what do U mean by "around so you believe"? That comma there is confusing.

brocab:
Jesus didn't founded the Church, He is the Church, and He didn't find the Church on Peter, He found the Church on the words Peter spoke, God the Father used Peter to say truly you are the Son of the living God, this is the word of God that built His Church, the body of Christ is the Church.
Not some religious building made of Brick and mortar you call Rome...

I'm afraid your first sentence is false. Let me show you why. Matthew 16:18 (Today's English Version):-
18. Jesus: "And so I tell you, Peter: you are a rock , and on this rock foundation I will build my church, ..."
Isn't it now obvious that Peter himself was the rock, and not his words (or his faith) as some people claim? What does "your" translation say?

brocab:
See we Christians aren't religious like you Christians, we do what the word tells us to do, we pray directly to God. And In the name of Jesus, His name is above all other names. Mary doesn't even get a mention, Jesus is our mediator 'not Mary..
[color=#000099]If you truly accepted Christ into your life, you would know truthfully who you pray too, but because God has not called you into His kingdom , you will always feel someone is insulting you, and your beliefs.
But I am not, I am only speaking the truth....

If you look at James 5:16, you would find out that the prayer of a righteous man availeth much, and that we are even "told" to pray for one another. Is there anyone more righteous than those who are already in Heaven? Isn't Mary in Heaven since God's grace kept her from sinning?
1 Tim 2:1-4 is another passage which contradicts the idea of yours that God only permits that we pray to Him directly. In verse 1, the word "intercession" is used. That's the same word we Catholics use when we talk of the Saints and the Blessed Virgin. It's also mentioned that we "pray for one another". I'd like you to consider the points I've raised.
NB: I'm afraid you can't tell what's in my heart as you aren't God.

brocab:
Even thy you may say my comment of mine sounds offensive, you in the other hand had also agreed with me, you ask Mary to speak to her Son on your behalf? Because she's the Mother with Him in Heaven?
So really Mary comes first in your heart, not Jesus.
See we Christians aren't religious like you Christians, we do what the word tells us to do, we pray directly to God. And In the name of Jesus, His name is above all other names. Mary doesn't even get a mention, Jesus is our mediator 'not Mary..
If you truly accepted Christ into your life, you would know truthfully who you pray too, but because God has not called you into His kingdom , you will always feel someone is insulting you, and your beliefs.
But I am not, I am only speaking the truth....

I'll respond to U later 'bout the whole mediator thing.

brocab:
Even thy you may say my comment of mine sounds offensive, you in the other hand had also agreed with me, you ask Mary to speak to her Son on your behalf? Because she's the Mother with Him in Heaven?
So really Mary comes first in your heart, not Jesus.
See we Christians aren't religious like you Christians, we do what the word tells us to do, we pray directly to God. And In the name of Jesus, His name is above all other names. Mary doesn't even get a mention, Jesus is our mediator 'not Mary..
If you truly accepted Christ into your life, you would know truthfully who you pray too, but because God has not called you into His kingdom , you will always feel someone is insulting you, and your beliefs.
But I am not, I am only speaking the truth....

It's only the Roman Cath. Church that can trace it's headship from Pope Francis up to St Peter in an "unbroken succession". That's a historical fact; you can verify it. So if there's anything she teaches that seems wrong to you, or contrary to the Bible, it can't be that it's a false teaching. It would be that there's either something wrong w/ ur understanding, or that that's not she truly teaches.

brocab:
Even thy you may say my comment of mine sounds offensive, you in the other hand had also agreed with me, you ask Mary to speak to her Son on your behalf? Because she's the Mother with Him in Heaven?
So really Mary comes first in your heart, not Jesus.
See we Christians aren't religious like you Christians, we do what the word tells us to do, we pray directly to God. And In the name of Jesus, His name is above all other names. Mary doesn't even get a mention, Jesus is our mediator 'not Mary..
If you truly accepted Christ into your life, you would know truthfully who you pray too, but because God has not called you into His kingdom , you will always feel someone is insulting you, and your beliefs.
But I am not, I am only speaking the truth....

Thanks for your reply. I would like U to know something. Jesus founded a church, right? If you agree w/ that then you'd know He founded it on Peter (Mt. 16:17-19). Verse 19 meant that that Church will be perpetual and would not teach error. That's attested to by 1 Tim. 3:15, where the Church is referred to as the 'pillar' & 'foundation' of truth (version: NAB).
Could such a church, then, have a false teaching? Given also that it was God Himself who made the promise in that portion of Matthew I quoted.

brocab:
The truth of this matter is, they pray the rosary's because they haven't found Jesus in their hearts...

I'm sorry, but I find this comment of yours offensive. It seems you're not familiar w/ the Rosary. It's both a prayer and a reflection of the life of "Jesus", and some bits about His mother. As a prayer, it's addressed to God as Trinity; and at certain points of the prayer, to God the Father & God the Holy Spirit. At the Our Father's, we pray directly to God. And at the Hail Mary's to Mary asking her to speak to her Son on our behalf, because she's His mother and with Him in Heaven. We believe that God raised her up in status by making her the Mother of the Word. By that very fact we know she has a special place in Heaven, and that her prayers are very powerful w/ Him. What I think you don't know if that at the end of the prayer, we beg God to answer the prayers that we've made through Mary, the mother of His Son. We in no way by-pass God. If the Son knows that we are just simply asking His mom to put in a good word for us, why would he hate that? . . .

uyplus:
Would luv 2knw y cathlcs bow to mary's statue, and pray repetetive prayers with da rosary, which the bible condemns.. Is bowin to a statue nt idolatry pls??

Good day, sir. Please has anyone given you a satisfactory answer, because I have some answers for you? However, I don't want to repeat what someone else has "said."

ijawkid:
Lol........

Why do you use the rosary in prayers.??...

Who started it??what's its origin??

I just wrote down exactly were u guys adopted the use of beads in worship...

If its not true please rebut it.....

We use the Rosary because we know that Mary's intercession is beneficial to us. We are taught that Jesus loves His mother, and so would grant anything she asks of Him that's in accordance with His divine will. So if we know that we can have a praying partner, which would make 2 people praying before God - a sinner & a saint, why wouldn't we have that?
That stated, we aren't told that all prayers must be through Mary. So there are times we do pray to God directly; at mass, we pray through his Son.

ijawkid:
Lol........

And I think Jesus is still praying that the cup should pass over Him till today abi??

Did Jesus recite that prayer every morning and evening??

did Jesus start reciting that prayer from his birth ,till he was impaled and after his ressurection??

Italo you have got no idea of what prayer is and how you guys follow a routine of stereotypical prayers bowing down before images and using the rosary all in the name of wanting to worship God........

Jesus prayed heartfelt prayers to his heavenly Father,.......and not some memorized repititive words of prayer......

Jesus never adopted pagan traditions to worship his Father.....

Jesus worshipped his Father in spirit and in truth.......

Every morning you wake up you keep repeating the same slogan over and over again...

""Hail mary mother of God please pray for us sinners""

Did Jesus teach you that??

Please answer the posters question....

Why do you use the rosary in prayers.??...

Who started it??what's its origin??

I just wrote down exactly were u guys adopted the use of beads in worship...

If its not true please rebut it.....

Good day, Ijawkid. The use of Rosary, of the Blessed Virgin Mary, began around the 13th century. It was recorded that St Dominic (a Catholic priest) saw the Blessed Virgin in an apparition. She gave him the beaded object, and taught him how to say it. He was to use it to fight against the Albigensian heresy. The heresy died down with the help of the Rosary. You can do some personal research about the heresy if U have any doubt.

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brushparke:
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Segipaul:
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