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dregmaster:
If you hav prob with date of birth follow these steps:
1. Submit ur form
2. Re-edit ur date of birth to the correct one.
3. Change the date of your system to ur date of birth
4. Save the page, it retains the date of birth
5. Goto print form and reprint the first page
6. Chang ur computer date to correct one

Thank you, sir, but my problem is the the Local Government Area field. The page keeps saying I didn't fill it even when I do.

Good day, everyone. Please has anyone successfully applied?
If yes, please how did U get past the "personal details"
page? It is not retaining my LGA details. If this question has already been answered, then don't be angry. Just kindly link me to the answer.

Good day, everyone. Pls has anyone successfully applied? If yes, please how did U get past the "personal details" page? It is not retaining my LGA details.

brocab:
This maybe along page for you to read, but hey its worth the read....
Great you have given me a suite I can not open, your suite page won't allow me to open it, This is all I need, see the problem is, we all call ourselves Christians, and of course we are from completely different denominations, and with this, somewhere someone will always, search for the truth about God 'which draws us towards only His truth, which sometimes turns out to be a argument between other denominations that don't search for the truth and follow after different belief's, as been taught. God gave us all a choice, and it's our choice to accept His truth, or not.
God can speak through anybody, He spoke through a donkey, So it doesn't matter which denomination we are from, as long as we believe in His truth, and stand on His word, worship Him and Him only we shall serve. Then we have nothing to worry about..
But the problem is other denominations sometimes like to interpreted the bible another way, some change and rewrite another book, Like the JW's and the Mormons, even the Catholic's have different books other then the bible God had written .
But the truth is, reading other interpretations can make life a little difficult, because your Church expects their followers to learn other then the bible.
Which of course confuses you and the Word Of God. Like the Mary story and praying to dead saints. This is someone else's interpretation, and not God's.
If we choose to follow after another, then our denominations are separated, and someone somewhere will find faults between such, which cause's confusion inside each Church.
My name is St brocab, I have the same name as St Peter, I am also another disciple, but from a different era. 2000 years apart, but I am also speaking these same Words Peter spoke of the Word of God. Of course He knew Jesus personally, and he seen many things Jesus had done and said, but we both have something in common we both received His Holy Spirit, I myself have a personal relationship with Jesus, and in return Jesus has a personal relationship with me too. By my faith I have is my witness, Jesus works through me, and the many millions of true believers, He works through them too.
We are all like St Peter and the rest of Jesus's personal disciples back then, the great men of God had spread His gospel until now, all were filled with the Spirit of God, Like we believers are today, Finishing what they had started..
And without the support of others {Even dead Saints} I can enter into God's throne room too {Hebrews 4:16} Let us approach God's throne of Grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us, in our time of need.
Jesus made us all into Saints {Colossians 1:12} Given thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the Saints of lights.
{1 peter 2:9} But you are the chosen people, a royal Priesthood, a holy nation, a people for Gods own procession, to proclaim virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His Marvellous light.
You will love this one-This one is good. {1 peter 4:11} If anyone speaks he should speak as One, conveying the Words Of God, of anyone serves he should serve with the strength God supplies, so that in all things God may be Glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory and the power forever and ever. Amen...
{Revelation 1:6} And he made us Kings and Priest unto God and His Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen..
So you see we are from different denominations and not everybody will agree with teachings that doesn't belong to the Word Of God.
So it is important to me, that while you write, you are writing the Word Of God, not words that don't belong, the Gates of Hades will not prevail against the Church of God, 'which is the Word.
Jesus said one must be born again { Meaning born from above} before he/she can enter into the kingdom of God. He said it as clear as it sounds, He never said one must be born into a Church, either Catholic JW's Mormons Muslims, whatever..

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brocab:
{Matthew 16:13-20} Having the larges Church you believe is the first Church ever built-by Peter, is wrong. The Church of Jesus is the Spirit of God and He wasn't from this world.
He left leaving His Spirit to His disciples to teach them all thing Jesus done and about to come.
A question you should be asking yourself, if the Old ceremonial of the Old Testament were finished at the death of Christ {or as other conjecture after Pentecost} Why did the Church still attend temple gatherings? Was it because they were not fully aware of the full implication of the New Covenant and may have been offered sacrifices? Was it because they wanted to get together and Evangelise their brethren? Was it some mishmash of both reason plus possibility more? Think about it" What was actually truly going through their heads at this time.
{Acts 2:46-47} Everyday they continua'led to meet in the temple courts, They broke bread in their Homes, and ate together with Glad and sincere hearts, prising God and enjoying the favour of all the people, and the Lord added to their number daily.those who were being saved.
So this scripture clearly tells us the apostles, weren't entering inside the temple building, but standing in the Courts, preaching to them the word of God, then this proves, the disciples were preaching another gospel, the gospel Jesus taught them, and those who had chosen to believe the truth, were taken out from the temple courts into their homes { not the temple church} and broke bread to be saved.
The bible reads the disciples were having their fellowships in peoples homes not in any of the temples {Churches} Listen to the words? Jesus answered and said to him "Blessed are you, Simon bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, But My Father who is in Heaven, meaning the Father spoke through Peter, and these words didn't come from Peter directly, they came from God.
Jesus then said you are right Peter and upon this rock {Which is the word} I will build My Church.
Read {Acts 2:46-47} again.
Jesus didn't build His Church in a temple nor in any Church building, He built His Church on the word of God, these same words were spoken through Peter.
And strangely enough your Church claims Peter became Pope until the church allowed Emperor Nero to murder him upside down on the cross, and cutting Paul's head clean off.
It amazes me, why none of you have asked this question? Why did Nero murder them this way, was it because they weren't speaking the same gospel of the pagans, or was it, they took people into their own homes to break bread and people were saved. {And Not the temples church} Only because they wanted the people to know the truth about Christ, and Nero Murdered them because Nero wanted people to worship their God's 'Not the true God. Jesus did say all those who believe in Me, will be prostituted.
This is the question I myself would be asking the Church? Why did the Church continual to murder people who believed in the gospel of Jesus instead of the Catholic Churches beliefs, the Catholic Church burned the believers of Christ to the stake, torching them until death for centuries after Nero murdered Peter and Paul, Peter didn't just die of old age, He was murdered. Think about it, you have chosen to fellowship with a Church that doesn't line up with the word of God.
[color=#000099]Listen faithful people had step out and spoken the truth about Christ to the public? Do you ever watch the worldly news Christians are being murdered everyday, while your Pope sits around watching the world, have you studied up on the Hitler story, Hitler himself would visit the Pope, while the Jews were murdered by the millions, and what did the Pope do, he shook hands with Hitler while sitting down having a cup of tea. After the war had ended' through history we all know it was the Pope who supported the German war criminals helping them to leave Germany, and sending them to either Argentina, and other places, having different Identities. ...

I made you an audio message in response to your questions about St Peter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwFl55DuNZQBMkFLczBnZXRTV2M

brocab:
Show me in the bible where it actually say's, God said Mary would be sinless, or she was sinless?
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And still you aren't free...

Genesis chapter 3 verse 15. Consider the "woman" and the word "enmity".

brocab:
Listen faithful people had step out and spoken the truth about Christ to the public? Do you ever watch the worldly news Christians are being murdered everyday, while your Pope sits around watching the world, have you studied up on the Hitler story, Hitler himself would visit the Pope, while the Jews were murdered by the millions, and what did the Pope do, he shook hands with Hitler while sitting down having a cup of tea. After the war had ended' through history we all know it was the Pope who supported the German war criminals helping them to leave Germany, and sending them to either Argentina, and other places, having different Identities. These were crimes the Germans committed against the Jews. Where was the Popes support then? What was the Pope thinking off? The Pope claims he is a man of God, if this is true then why was he supporting the murders instead of God's own children, when the Pope knew the Jews belong to God.
History brother tells the story-and clearly this just shows your Church had separated themselves away from the rest of the world, is this why your Church is built like a prison no-one can get in, nor get out, Not Even God Himself could enter into it?

Pope Francis has "not" been silent about the persecution of Christians. Maybe you just didn't know about that. Some proof: http://m.thenigerianvoice.com/movie/175015/3/on-good-friday-pope-decries-persecution-of-christi.html , http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/04/12/pope_francis_persecution_is_the_churchs_daily_bread/1222155 . I hope you don't want him to start a war or something.
About the Pope keeping quiet about the Holocaust, I haven't heard about that. Secondly, being a man of God -- or a Pope in this case -- doesn't make one sinless or impeccable. We men are still prone to committing sin. The grace of God on our lives helps us to overcome temptation, but as fallen creatures, we still do fall into sin. "Infallibility" on the hand means the Pope is protected from error by God, when he makes a public proclamation relating to doctrine or morals that is to be binding on all the faithful. However, infallibility is not limited to when the pope communicates by speaking.

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brocab:
After speaking to you or either of the other Catholic's I have written too, I have found you all receive your knowledge not directly from the bible, but through some other writer, one that truly believes he/she is right, and in most cases they are wrong. And of course you all learn their ways of teachings, which in most cases it is twisted and turns the word of God around.
None of you test the Spirit, to see if the writer is right or wrong, its the word of God that reads the truth; and it's only a simple ask to the Lord to guide you what is the truth. Try it sometime, you will be amazed, how quickly the Lord answers your prayers.
This is why it is important for us to listen to God, read His truth, and not somebody else's.
I have a job to do, I am trying to help you see reason, not only do I want you to look at the bible, but read it with understanding, and the way to receive this understanding is by asking God "not Mary, not the saints" but the Lord the Holy Spirit will and can direct you to understand it the way it is written, and the way it is sounding.
Not some unbeliever who thinks he/she has all the answers.

brocab:
{Matthew 16:13-20} Having the larges Church you believe is the first Church ever built-by Peter, is wrong. The Church of Jesus is the Spirit of God and He wasn't from this world.
He left leaving His Spirit to His disciples to teach them all thing Jesus done and about to come.
A question you should be asking yourself, if the Old ceremonial of the Old Testament were finished at the death of Christ {or as other conjecture after Pentecost} Why did the Church still attend temple gatherings? Was it because they were not fully aware of the full implication of the New Covenant and may have been offered sacrifices? Was it because they wanted to get together and Evangelise their brethren? Was it some mishmash of both reason plus possibility more? Think about it" What was actually truly going through their heads at this time.
{Acts 2:46-47} Everyday they continua'led to meet in the temple courts, They broke bread in their Homes, and ate together with Glad and sincere hearts, prising God and enjoying the favour of all the people, and the Lord added to their number daily.those who were being saved.
So this scripture clearly tells us the apostles, weren't entering inside the temple building, but standing in the Courts, preaching to them the word of God, then this proves, the disciples were preaching another gospel, the gospel Jesus taught them, and those who had chosen to believe the truth, were taken out from the temple courts into their homes { not the temple church} and broke bread to be saved.
The bible reads the disciples were having their fellowships in peoples homes not in any of the temples {Churches} Listen to the words? Jesus answered and said to him "Blessed are you, Simon bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, But My Father who is in Heaven, meaning the Father spoke through Peter, and these words didn't come from Peter directly, they came from God.
Jesus then said you are right Peter and upon this rock {Which is the word} I will build My Church.
Read {Acts 2:46-47} again.
Jesus didn't build His Church in a temple nor in any Church building, He built His Church on the word of God, these same words were spoken through Peter.
And strangely enough your Church claims Peter became Pope until the church allowed Emperor Nero to murder him upside down on the cross, and cutting Paul's head clean off.
It amazes me, why none of you have asked this question? Why did Nero murder them this way, was it because they weren't speaking the same gospel of the pagans, or was it, they took people into their own homes to break bread and people were saved. {And Not the temples church} Only because they wanted the people to know the truth about Christ, and Nero Murdered them because Nero wanted people to worship their God's 'Not the true God. Jesus did say all those who believe in Me, will be prostituted. ...
Listen faithful people had step out and spoken the truth about Christ to the public? Do you ever watch the worldly news Christians are being murdered everyday, while your Pope sits around watching the world, have you studied up on the Hitler story, Hitler himself would visit the Pope, while the Jews were murdered by the millions, and what did the Pope do, he shook hands with Hitler while sitting down having a cup of tea. After the war had ended' through history we all know it was the Pope who supported the German war criminals helping them to leave Germany, and sending them to either Argentina, and other places, having different Identities. These were crimes the Germans committed against the Jews. Where was the Popes support then? What was the Pope thinking off? The Pope claims he is a man of God, if this is true then why was he supporting the murders instead of God's own children, when the Pope knew the Jews belong to God.
History brother tells the story-and clearly this just shows your Church had separated themselves away from the rest of the world, is this why your Church is built like a prison no-one can get in, nor get out, Not Even God Himself could enter into it?

The Christian faith is not a Bible-alone faith. Brother, here's why: http://www.catholic.com/blog/kenneth-hensley/why-i%E2%80%99m-catholic-sola-scriptura-isn%E2%80%99t-scriptural-part-i and
http://www.catholic.com/blog/kenneth-hensley/why-im-catholic-the-foundational-error-of-sola-scriptura Your Bible-alone philosophy is not even _in_ the Bible.

brocab:
After speaking to you or either of the other Catholic's I have written too, I have found you all receive your knowledge not directly from the bible, but through some other writer, one that truly believes he/she is right, and in most cases they are wrong. And of course you all learn their ways of teachings, which in most cases it is twisted and turns the word of God around.
None of you test the Spirit, to see if the writer is right or wrong, its the word of God that reads the truth; and it's only a simple ask to the Lord to guide you what is the truth. Try it sometime, you will be amazed, how quickly the Lord answers your prayers.
This is why it is important for us to listen to God, read His truth, and not somebody else's.
I have a job to do, I am trying to help you see reason, not only do I want you to look at the bible, but read it with understanding, and the way to receive this understanding is by asking God "not Mary, not the saints" but the Lord the Holy Spirit will and can direct you to understand it the way it is written, and the way it is sounding.
Not some unbeliever who thinks he/she has all the answers.

Luke10: 16. Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; and whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.” The word of the Magisterium is not the word of men, but of God. The Lord Jesus built his church on the Apostles, whom he said he would be with until the end of the age . (see Eph. 2:20)
With regards to praying to the Holy Spirit, that's something I do, but the Holy Spirit is not to give "me" infallible insight or understanding into/of Scripture and other things pertaining to our salvation. Jesus said that that would be for his disciples (the 12, and those after them), because "they" are the teaching authority not me. I once found myself in error, for I had thought that just because I prayed to God before reading the Bible I would get the correct understanding of what I read. God does give some the gift of Bible-interpretation, but (the) teaching authority remains with the Magisterium which He established.

brocab:
{Matthew 16:13-20} Having the larges Church you believe is the first Church ever built-by Peter, is wrong. The Church of Jesus is the Spirit of God and He wasn't from this world.

{Churches} Listen to the words? Jesus answered and said to him "Blessed are you, Simon bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, But My Father who is in Heaven, meaning the Father spoke through Peter, and these words didn't come from Peter directly, they came from God.
Jesus then said you are right Peter and upon this rock {Which is the word} I will build My Church.
Read {Acts 2:46-47} again.
Jesus didn't build His Church in a temple nor in any Church building, He built His Church on the word of God, these same words were spoken through Peter.
And strangely enough your Church claims Peter became Pope until the church allowed Emperor Nero to murder him upside down on the cross, and cutting Paul's head clean off.
It amazes me, why none of you have asked this question? Why did Nero murder them this way, was it because they weren't speaking the same gospel of the pagans, or was it, they took people into their own homes to break bread and people were saved. {And Not the temples church} Only because they wanted the people to know the truth about Christ, and Nero Murdered them because Nero wanted people to worship their God's 'Not the true God. Jesus did say all those who believe in Me, will be prostituted.
This is the question I myself would be asking the Church? Why did the Church continual to murder people who believed in the gospel of Jesus instead of the Catholic Churches beliefs, the Catholic Church burned the believers of Christ to the stake, torching them until death for centuries after Nero murdered Peter and Paul, Peter didn't just die of old age, He was murdered. Think about it, you have chosen to fellowship with a Church that doesn't line up with the word of God.
Listen faithful people had step out and spoken the truth about Christ to the public? Do you ever watch the worldly news Christians are being murdered everyday, while your Pope sits around watching the world, have you studied up on the Hitler story, Hitler himself would visit the Pope, while the Jews were murdered by the millions, and what did the Pope do, he shook hands with Hitler while sitting down having a cup of tea. After the war had ended' through history we all know it was the Pope who supported the German war criminals helping them to leave Germany, and sending them to either Argentina, and other places, having different Identities. These were crimes the Germans committed against the Jews. Where was the Popes support then? What was the Pope thinking off? The Pope claims he is a man of God, if this is true then why was he supporting the murders instead of God's own children, when the Pope knew the Jews belong to God.

Note: you and I quote from an "English" version of the Bible. Since when did "you" represent "words" and not "persons" or "a person? Doesn't Cephas or Kephas (Peter's new name) mean a 'rock'? Please don't twist the words there to fit your interpretation.
I've been doing a lot of Bible-quoting, but the truth is my Christian faith stands on: the Bible, Sacred Apostolic Tradition, and Public Revelation. So I would hate to imply that if something's is not (explicitly) stated in the Bible, then it's wrong. See 2 Tim. 2:2, 2 Thess. 2:15, 1 Cor. 11:2. (source of my Bible quotes: www.catholic.com)

brocab:
To be honest with you, I had open up the suite you gave me, but after listening to you about your knowledge about the word of God, I didn't want to read someone else's issues that has nothing to do with any bible literature's.

It does deal with the Bible. There's an entire chapter dedicated to it. The first page after the list of questions, page 11, contains '2' quotes from the Bibles. So do check again. If you look up the "Table of Contents" in your e-book reader, you would see a list of topics. Pls click on anyone you like. I didn't call my church the custodian of the Bible for nothing.

brocab:
God is God He can create everything, sin came because of disobedience, when Adam was in the Garden, He was told not to eat of that tree in the middle of the garden by the Lord God. This could be a good question for you: did the Lord God also tell Eve not to eat of that fruit-or did the Lord God leave it to Adam to tell Eve not to eat of that fruit, was this because the Lord wanted to see how obedient Adam really was?
So did Adam tell Eve not to eat of that fruit?
The Lord God was giving Adam a choice, but the women that came from Adam's rib, ate the fruit, and given it to Adam at the same time. So their choice was made.
Now lets read on, They were kicked out of the Garden, and with the choice they made, what happen? Adam and Eve had two children, Cain and Abel, Cain was evil and Abel in the other hand serviced the Lord.
Satan turned the garden of Eden around, because of a choice-so the Lord God made it so He could enter in as becoming a man to save the world-and what happened Satan tried to stop Jesus from saving the world, again the Garden of Eden is about to reopen for the saved. Everything we do, we either believe in Christ-or we continual to disbelieve.
We live by choice, not someone else's choices, our own choice, as a child grows he/she lives on making choices everyday.
Jesus was baptised under Jewish Law as a child, and as He became a man He made His choice to be baptised by John the baptist. Telling us we must make our choice and be baptised in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, because everybody that isn't born again will not enter into the kingdom of God. This is our choice. What is your choice

Eve knew about God's command, brother. How exactly she got to know wasn't stated in Genesis. See Gen. 3:2-3.
I'm glad you have the correct understanding of baptism. That's the same idea I have. I have been baptised, and I later got to know what that meant when I did my catechism. So I "have" decided to follow Christ.

Emasearu:
Let me take you up on your 1st paragraph. Yes, I'm a cradle Catholic, but at some point I almost left my church. I didn't always think the Catholic Church was the one Jesus founded, until my pastor showed me Mt. 16:13-20, and I started to think... I always knew Peter was the first Pope (Chief Shepherd) -- and that's in the Bible, but after my pastor had shown me that, I did some research on my own . That's when I got convinced! What I was told (about Peter, and Christ's Church) matched what I found on the Internet. I saw some of it my CRS textbooks as well. ...

@brocab: My Christian Religious Studies textbooks, of the private non-catholic school I attended, made it clear that there was an early church as against what U claim. And that the early church was united under Peter. My Internet research showed me how long he ruled, and how the early church continued even after he died with new popes being elected, or appointed.

brocab:
[...] Is your story about you walking into the classroom, and you are preferring not hearing the word of God, only because you have been a solid Catholic since birth, and none of the words I have given you is recognisable to you. Basically you are saying I am the noise, and nothing that is written from the bible makes any sense to you-because its a different bible language, you have never studied yourself.
DID YOU KNOW THE BIBLE SAY'S THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE
And still you aren't free...

No, brother, you're not the noise. I'm sorry my analogy wasn't clear enough. I was trying to show you how there could be a few people - or one person - not doing sth bad but, one can speak generally if "the majority" are doing so. That's why I used "noise" as an example. One could use "sin" too, I think. ...

brocab:
The problem is, you aren't ready to understand the truth about Christ. And you have been taught a different language a different religion, a religion that doesn't 'and wont line up with the word of God.
None of what you have given me, lines up with the truth, yes you do use some scriptures, but they have been explained to you, a completely different way from what the bible actually say's who Christ is, and where His house belongs.
Their is no-where written in the bible about Mary's further role becoming the Mother of God, Her Son yes, He sits besides God the Father on His throne.
Show me in the bible where it actually say's, God said Mary would be sinless, or she was sinless?
Is your story about you walking into the classroom, and you are preferring not hearing the word of God, only because you have been a solid Catholic since birth, and none of the words I have given you is recognisable to you. Basically you are saying I am the noise, and nothing that is written from the bible makes any sense to you-because its a different bible language, you have never studied yourself.
DID YOU KNOW THE BIBLE SAY'S THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE
And still you aren't free...

Let me take you up on your 1st paragraph. Yes, I'm a cradle Catholic, but at some point I almost left my church. I didn't always think the Catholic Church was the one Jesus founded, until my pastor showed me Mt. 16:13-20, and I started to think... I always knew Peter was the first Pope (Chief Shepherd) -- and that's in the Bible, but after my pastor had shown me that, I did some research on my own . That's when I got convinced! What I was told (about Peter, and Christ's Church) matched what I found on the Internet. I saw some of it my CRS textbooks as well. ...

brocab:
{John 16:8} When the Holy Spirit comes He will convict the world about sin. righteousness and judgement.. This proves Mary was a sinner just like you and I.
So this is why Jesus tells His disciples that it is to their advantage that He left them ...

No, I'm sorry but it doesn't. She received mercy from The Most High at the point of her conception, to prepare her for her future role as Mother of God. That's all I'm saying.
I think the Son was speaking generally there, because God Himself said Mary would be sinless (I'll show you what I mean when you've answered my previous questions).
Let me give an example: if you were walk into a classroom and you found the students there making a noise. You try to see the people making the noise but give up and leave, because the class is just too noisy. Wouldn't you be correct to say: "That class was too noisy"? You would. However, there could have been one or two persons who didn't join in the noise-making, right?

Thank you for replying. :-)

Pogba:
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Oh, okay. I'm glad you found a solution!

brocab:
The bible teaches that only those who have asked Jesus to forgive their sins will go to heaven, and those who have not will go to Hell. Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life, No-one comes to the Father accept through Me..
He made it clear there is one way to get into heaven and combined with many other scriptures that says the same thing in different ways, this is accepted by most bible scholars. As he accurate answer to "what must I do to go to heaven" So what happens to those who don't want anything to do with Jesus and not asked him to forgive their sins? [color=#000099]{In your case you ask a priest to forgive your sin}
According to the bible they go to Hell, what is most important to understand through, is that no-one will send you to Heaven or Hell. Where ever you end up will be the place where "you choose" to go" the reason for this is because you have a free will, the right you choose and no-one will force you to believe what you didn't want to. Not even God..
But only God knows when the day of judgement happens, Then I saw a great white throne, and Him who was seated on it- and I saw the dead great and small, standing before the throne,, and the books were opened, Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books, and each person was judge to what they had done. And everyone who was not found in the book of life, was thrown into the lake of fire.
So this purgatory lie, isn't the word of God, you can't buy your way out of Hell, God will judge as His word say's He will. And don't forget their are many Christians in Hell today, prosperity preaches, men and women who loved themselves and their idol's more then God. etc...Everyone will be judged on judgement day, and those who aren't written in the the books will end up in the lake of fire..
I suppose you know the bible like the back of your hand, and this is like child's play to you, And of course this isn't serious enough for your intellectual head knowledge.. And yet the bible was written to be simple minded..But of course you haven't worked that out yet?

Brother, pls be patient. Christ's church is the custodian of the Bible. She'll teach you what U need to know.
John 20:21-23 shows how the Sacrament of Reconciliation was instituted by Jesus Himself . If you deny that validly-ordained priests can forgive sins, you deny the authority of Christ, or imply some other worse things.

brocab:
Heaven...

John 3:5- Jesus: "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirt, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." So I'm afraid we can't they would go to Heaven, but we can't say they'd go to Hell either since they weren't old enough to commit any sin or reject baptism. We can trust in God's mercy as to what would befall them.

Mcowubaba:
Exempt for the hail mary prayer.....
'Holy Mary Pray for Us sinners now nd @ the hour of our Death'
Even the memorare-
'Remember O Most Blessed Virgin Mary, that is a thing unheard of, that anyone who impored your help was left forsaken, here i come, before thee I stand, a sinful nd sorrowful sinner, despite not my poor words O mother of the world incarnate'
All this things na Prayer na...
Jesus Christ Clearly said ' I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMMET TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME' =This is the summary of this discussion QED!!

Nd ps..u don't need any mediator/ intersesor to connect to JESUS CHRIST.... But u need JESUS CHRIST to connect to the FATHER...
Tanks

Sir, don't you ever ask your mom to prayer for you?

brocab:
He told the Pharisees and the head of the Roman soldiers that year, His kingdom isn't of this world. And if His Kingdom isn't of this world, then His word isn't of this world either..

You are raising a lot of issues, sir. Let's stick with Mary for now, so we won't be handling many topics at once. Thank U.
Also, were U able to download the book I told U about?

brocab:
Mary was born in sin, like we are born in the same nature. Mary was blessed giving birth to Jesus only because of Her faith she had towards God. Jesus died for the sins of this world {1 John 2:2, 1 Peter 3:18} Christ also suffered once for sins, He did this so we could have life.
He died for us, that means He died for His Mother too. He died for all man kind...

I'm not saying Mary didn't need a redeemer. She did, because even though she was made free from sin, that didn't mean the price of Adam's disobedience had been paid for. God the Son still had to offer Himself up for "all" mankind. We agree on that. What we don't agree on is her Immaculate Conception. Let me ask you this: could God have created Mary without sin if He wanted to? Please think about it.

calmG:
Emasearu, And lemme make 1 tin clear to u...saints are seen by catholics as "Holy"...but I'm sorry to dissapont u no one is holy even the Pope with the title "His Holiness" is not holy in himself...But all of us that are christians and believe in christ JESUS, including u and me are Holy in christ JESUS... are perfect in christ JESUS...No one can ever attain holiness; If not they'll be baosting to GOD in heaven that while we were on earth we were holy...Mary herself was not holy and was also conceived with originsl sin...Her rightousness depends on Christ...Christ also died for her sins as well...

When the Pope declares a person a saint, which is always after the person has died, it means the Church is sure that he/she is in Heaven. It doesn't mean the person didn't sin while on earth, but that the person co-operated with the grace of God while on earth. And that whenever the person did sin, he sought God's forgiveness. It's actually much more than I've described, though. Canonization is a long process.

calmG:
what do you mean by "born without original sin".
It wad only JESUS that sin wasn't found in...Every other person is born with sin..

Thanks f'r asking. Original Sin is the stain sin all mankind inherit from Adam due to his disobedience. However, God made Mary an exception because she had a special role in His plan of salvation. Through a woman's disobedience, we receive the penalty of death; through another's obedience, we are raised to life. It's what Jesus was referring to when he called her "woman" in John 2:4, and 19:26. Remember that Adam's wife was first named "woman" (Gen. 2:23). It was 'after' the fall, when she was no longer sinless, that her name changed to Eve (Gen. 3:2)

Emasearu:
Thank you. I'm glad you acknowledged that she was highly favoured.
Good question. Mary is not the mother of the Blessed Trinity, but a member of that union was born of her at a certain point in history. However Jesus, who shares the same divine substance w/ the two other members, had a physical nature added to His divine nature. Since it's written that she gave birth to Jesus, who is a person "in" God, we can say she's the Mother of God. Do you get it?

The incarnation is taken as a mystery in the Catholic church, because it's difficult for one to fully understand it.

CalmG sir, this is for you: No, it's not. Those people you mentioned died before Christ came. Mary and the other saints in Heaven received the message of salvation in the time of Christ, and the latter after Christ had left His sheep in Peter's care.
The above is in reply to your question where you mentioned Elijah and Moses. Mary also is different because she was conceived without "original sin", and was chosen to be the Mother of God the Son.
I also ask that you download that e-book I asked "brocab" to d/load. It answers questions like yours.

calmG:
The Bible also said blessed is her amongs all women...
Now God has to come earth to save us through somebody;He came thru her. She was just favoured or will I say God just decided to come to earth thru her, It could've been anybody.she wasn't the only virgin then...How then will u now say she is the mother of GOD her creator...How can the creator be the heir of the created.

Thank you. I'm glad you acknowledged that she was highly favoured.
Good question. Mary is not the mother of the Blessed Trinity, but a member of that union was born of her at a certain point in history. However Jesus, who shares the same divine substance w/ the two other members, had a physical nature added to His divine nature. Since it's written that she gave birth to Jesus, who is a person "in" God, we can say she's the Mother of God. Do you get it?

brocab:
The Roman Catholic Church had interpreted their own style of teachings.

Thank you for your concern, for you desire to correct me because you think I'm in the wrong. It's truly a work of mercy.
I should add that someone decided what books would make the New Testatment, what books were not inspired. The books of scripture themselves don't mention which books are inspired. Surely someone or something had to have been guided by the Holy Spirit when organising the Bible. You should find out who did that.
Then please ask y'self this: if this group of people were able to create a canon for the Bible, wouldn't they be the authority that is to interpet the Bible?
May God bless you.

brocab:
If you knew the word of God as well as you say you do? Its the word of God that built the Church Jesus built His church on His word, and the words that Peter spoke weren't His own but God Himself spoke through Peter. Peter spoke Gods' words, not His own, so really when we look at the Roman Catholic Church that you say Peter built, He didn't do it on His own accord, the Church was built on the word of God.
Everything we do is based upon God. Peter's flesh done nothing, it was the word of God, the Spirit of God that started the Church..
Jesus's Church is the body. If Jesus's Church was made of brick and mortar He would have preach in it, His Church belonged to Him.
Call it as you see it fit, but not even you believe God's word exist. Read and learn on the next paragraph. The Roman Catholic Church had interpreted their own style of teachings.

Remember Jesus called Peter "Kephas", which meant "rock". Didn't Jesus give a parable about a man building his house on a rock? Didn't he say that a rock was a solid foundation?
I would like us to end our discussion here. There's an e-book that has a lot of questions you've raised, and their answers. It's here: www.scborromeo.org/glad/glad.pdf and it was written by a Catholic pastor. So he did a much better job than I'm attempting to do. It's not up to 200kB in size.

calmG:
will u be comfortable praying to God through Elijah or
Moses. Its just the same thing...
The only way to the Father is thru Jesus."No one
comes to the father except thru me". said Jesus...Y
then do u think going thru Mary makes ur prayer
more powerful...

No, it's not. Those people you mentioned died before Christ came. Mary and the other saints in Heaven received the message of salvation in the time of Christ, and the latter after Christ had left His sheep in Peter's care.