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Most of their "archeological discoveries" are fake 😂😆

That's it. Am done. I knew you would bring "archeology evidence"to buttress your point. I have already argued this here before. Archeology does not prove anything other than traces of history. It doesn't prove they owned the place.

If Nigeria has good archeologists they can easily unearth millions of archaeological evidence that British, Portuguese, French, etc lived in Nigeria at some point. Does that prove they owned Nigeria?.

So now, Israel says Syria also belongs to them. Jordan Saudi, Egypt, Lebanon and part of Iran also belong to them. Do you agree with this?. It is you that don't understand for falling for archeology nonesense. This is what they have been doing for decades and planting archeological evidence in areas they bombed and claim they discover 5000 year old Jewish scrolls. What does that proof?.

If you are Yoruba, go to Brazil and you will discover Yoruba relics there. Does that prove Yoruba owned Brazil?.

My friend, Haganah, Benjamin Neyanyahu etc are Europeand. Neyanyahu is Polish. Stop this your pseudo research. Their archeology discoveries are fabricated

Now that Israel bombed syria, they are saying they discovered thousands years old synagogue . Synagogue that is always there and local Arab Jews are there and Israel said it just discovered it. This is fraudulent discovery that entices you as "archeological discoveries" or "archeological evidence".

I don't argue there are no Jews there historically. Arabs don't have issues with this.. What Arabs have issues with is superiority of the Jews over them and creating a Jewish state where bunch of Europeans claimed to be Jews become citizens and kick out local Arabs. That's what the problem is. Haganah are Zionists from Europe.. period.

Stop reading online copy and paste. Americans don't believe them anymore. They always "discovering" something just to validate their presence in Arab land. They even "discovered" tomb of Jesus that they don't believe in

ogaemma:
Is obvious you are really not teachable.
I would have loved to send you balanced books, documents and images of historical facts.

1. What was Haganah doing in Arab land in the first place? 👇👇👇
Answer - I have advised you to do a balance research and fact checking of the archeological history of the Middle East.
Who occupied Palestine first?
Archeological history proves that In early times, Palestine was inhabited by Semitic peoples, the earliest being the Canaanites. According to tradition, Abraham, the common ancestor of the Jews and the Arabs, came from Ur to Canaan.
Taking stock. By more than 1,000 years, “Israel” predates “Palestine.” The land then became home primarily to an Arab population, again for more than a millennium. Both Jews and Arabs thus have a legitimate claim to the land.


2. Jew and Arabs lived together without significant issues for over 1000 years until British and Zionists came there.
👇👇👇
This is a clear evidence that you don't know a comprehensive archeological historical facts of the conflict in the West Bank.
The conflict in the middle East has been there even before Mohammed was Born.
Ancient history have it that the Palestine and Jews have never been on the same page.
What we see now is an escalation of a crisis that have existed close to 2,000 years.
Like I said earlier Both Jews and Arabs thus have a legitimate claim to the land.

You quoted Professor Ilan Pappé, I have read many of his books and research work.
On the context of who was the first to occupy the Palestine, Professor Ilan Pappé quote is subject to an argument. Because the Jews and Arab's claim ownership over the Land.

But I will also advise you that read Ilan Pappé book Gaza in Crisis. Then you will realize who to blame why the crisis in Gaza is unending.
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has seen myriad wrongs and brutalities on both sides.

Do not do your research on an Islamic point of view. Be neutral and balance in your research.
If you need information, I can send you some online Library in Egypt and Jordan that may be of help to you.
Many of the online Libraries in the Arab country are free to access.

I'm not taking you seriously. You ain't gonna agree with me and I won't agree with you either because what you are saying have been said here by many.

What was Haganah doing in Arab land in the first place?. Jew and Arabs lived together without significant issues for over 1000 years until British and Zionists came there. Haganah Zionist European entity. They had no business in that region in the first place. If you insist that Haganah was there to protect Arab Palestinian Jews, them Hamass also is here to protect Palestinians. Go and learn history from Israeli professor illan pappe who once said

"Most zionists didn't believe in God but they believe God promised them Palestine"

ogaemma:
If you are willing to learn, then be humble and learn.
First of all Haganah in Hebrew means Defense.
Haganah was a  paramilitary organization that operated for the Jews under the British Mandate for Palestine.
Why not first find out what led to the formation of Haganah.
It was founded in 1920 after the Arab's attack, precisely the case of the Nebi Musa riots, the Jaffa riots and the later Palestine riots where thousands of Jews were targeted.
This was before the Israeli independence, so at that time Israel did not have a regular Army.
So Haganah was founded to defend the presence of the Jews in the region.
In case you don't know, Israel have the right to defend herself.
On the context of member's of Haganah were later integrated into IDF, you are right.
When Israel declared it's independence, Haganah was disbanded and officially integrated into the Israel Defense Forces IDF. Which is a regular Army.

Do not forget that Haganah as paramilitary was under the control of the Jewish Agency, the official governmental body way back in charge of Palestine's Jewish community during the British era.
Except you want to be emotional with Truth and history.

How many suicide bombings did Haganah carried out? Or how many land mines did Haganah buried in the ground?
But I have record's of countless suicide bombings by HAMAS and HEZBOLLAH, some of the suicide bombings they used women and children.
Every action Haganah took was a retaliation from the Arab's attack.
Show me where Haganah was gazetted officially as a terrorist organization.
But HAMAS, Hezbollah ISIS and Al Qaeda at one time or the other were all officially gazetted by America and the UN as a terrorist organization.
Even at one point Haganah received military support from Poland and the United Kingdom when that Axis was invaded by Palestine with collaboration from North Africa, prompting the creation of the Palmach, their elite fighting force, in 1941.

If not for some sensitive and Security reasons, I would have posted some informations and documents here.

Please disabuse your mind from those jihadist liers and do a neutral fact check of the middle East conflict.
If you are willing to learn, I can send you some books and documentary.

Go and read SONS OF HAMAS a Book by Mosab Hassan Yousef.
He is a Palestinian with a balance judgement.
Do not rely only on the report from the Islamic Jihadist.
I would have sent you some videos involving Palestinian scholar's and erudites. But due to security, I can't post such video here.
So many Palestinians knows that their problem is not Israel but HAMAS. Due to how ruthless HAMAS terrorist organization is, they fear for their lives.
Do a balance research and fact checking, then come back and will will discuss.
I personally love the Palestinian people, because I know if not for HAMAS their suffering would have long been over.

new2012:
Sorry man, I’d thought you were a sensible person to hold a conversation with. Enjoy

again, you missed road. This thread isn't for you

Lord have mercy

See who wants to teach me about Middle East just because you lived there for 7 years. If you want to know the definition of terro.rism ask Benjamin Satanyahu. He perfectly gave definition of terro.rism during 1980s conference in the US.

You said the cause of the problem is not religion but territorial. You are correct. Did I say it is about religion?. It seems you don't know who you are talking
to. I probably know what you know not.

And then you jumped to the cause of middle East crisis is terro.rism and you cited Ha.mas etc.. See how you failed?. When was Ham.as and hez.bulla created?. Israel created them.

Terroris.m existed before those groups came into existence. The people who called themselves Jews have been causing act of terr.orism before 1920s.. In 1920s Britain labelled Haganah a terr.orist group. Who are the Haganah and when was Haganah created?

Haganah is known today as IDF. It was European Jewish terr.or group in the 20s that terrorized Arabs. Ham.as was created in response to Israeli oppression in 1987. Hezb.ulla was created in 1982 in response to Israeli terror.ism and oppression. So how the heck you jumped Haganah t.error of over 70 years before creation of Ham.as and hezb.ulla?. Your are definitely a shallow "historian"😀😂

Europeans came from different countries of European continent to Palestine and expelled over 700 Palestinians from their homes known today as Israel. You skipped all this and accused the victims of te.rror?. You are a joke

ogaemma:
You are genuinely ignorant about a lot of issues as far as the middle East is concern.

I lived in the middle East for 7 years. There is hardly any country in the middle East I have not stepped my foot on Including Jordan which is the most peaceful country in the East.
Let me try and enlighten you from your wrong judgement about the east.

1.why do you Christians support Jews who don't believe in Christianity against Palestinians?.

Answer- What is happening in Gaza and the entire West Bank region is not a religious war.
It is a war to gain territorial grounds and who controls the Land.
Christian's are not supporting the Jews, what the Christian's are against is the Art of terrorism.
Terrorist are the most ruthless humans on earth. Take a balance look at what is happening in the Norther NIGERIA today.
Terrorist kill Christian's, Muslims and even their own kinsmen.
They kill anybody that is available during their attack irrespective of the relationship of that person to them.
They do not deserve to be in this world.
So disabuse your mind, Christian's are not against the Palestine. We are against HAMAS the terrorist.
Hamas have put the poor people of Palestine into so much suffering's than Israel.
Ask yourself, why is it that the late PLO Leader Yeser Arafat do not agree with HAMAS.
HAMAS is the major reason why there is no Peace in GAZA.

2. Israel does not differentiate btw Palestinian Muslims and Christians.

My friend, Israel do not have problem with Muslim. As I said, it is not a religious war. Brainless JIHADIST HAMAS and HEZBOLLAH brainwashed Muslims to make it look like a religious war.
There are Israeli that are Muslims. They visit Mecca year in and year out.
There are so many Israeli that are married to Palestinian women. Infact one of the highest intermarriage I have seen is between Israel and Palestine.
Israel have good diplomatic relations with other Arab countries that do not sponsor terrorist. U.A.E, JORDAN and KUWAIT.
So Israel do not hate Arab's or Muslims, Israel hates terrorist. Period.
So if you ever think that Israel hates Muslims, then you have been brainwashed. Wake up and unlock your brain 🧠.

3. Israel does not want Palestinians and the state of Palestine, period.

Answer - That is false. Israel does not want HAMAS the terrorist period.
Let me tell you the practical truth today.
The Leaders of HAMAS are gaining and enriching themselves from the war in the middle East. They are even Richer than the Palestinian state as a country.
Take away HAMAS from Palestine, in no distance time there will be peace in the middle East.
The real enemy of the good and poor people of Palestine is HAMAS and not Israel.

4. And you said they don't need Pilgrimage from Nigeria. -

You misquoted me. Please read my comments again. I never said they do not need pilgrimage from Nigeria.
I put the blame on the governor of Niger state, who have a limited knowledge of what is happening there.

5. Lastly, Arab Muslims and Arab Christians have no issues. It is you western Christians that have issues with Arab Muslims and Christians and create problems over there.


Western Christian's are not the cause of the war in the middle East. Blame the jihadist HAMAS.
Even Arab Muslims do not like HAMAS OR HEZBOLLAH.
During the regime of Bill Clinton, remember the Camp David accord. Yeser Arafat was still alive, they were very close to reach a peaceful accord , but HAMAS always destroy everything.
Hamas do not want peace in the midst East.
Hamas have turned the middle East war to an investment to enrich themselves.
If there is peace in the middle East today, the Leader's and members of HAMAS will soon become poor people.

So breakout from the brainwashing of the jihadist.
HAMAS the terrorist is the real Enemy of the poor people of Palestine.

highflyer012020:
FAR FROM IT. ARIEL SHARON NEVER DIE A PAINFUL DEATH. HE DIED AS A WAR VATERAN FIGHTING FOR THE CAUSE OF FREEDOM OF ISRAEL. BEN IS A TUDENT OF ARIEL HE LEARNT WELL AND AFTER HIM THERE WILL AROSE ANOTHER. AS PER HELL, ARE YOU A CUSTODIAN OF HELL TO KNOW WHO ARE THERE. YU DONT KNOW THEY ARE AGENT THAT FULFLL THE FILL OF GOD FOR ISRAEL IN THIS END TIME.

Sure, I am not the custodian of hell..I only quoted what your Bible said. Scroll up. I have posted those Bible verses that back my point

E be like say you missed road

new2012:
What’s your dog in the fight?

Abrahamaic religious fallacies imbrued in your life since childhood. You don’t even know if there is a lagos or believe in one. You just stil to your religious fantasies. Grow a spine!

Kukutente23:
You just aptly described how muhammad died

Your buddy in freaking bedridden in hospita looking at himselfl and he's being taking care of by hamas doctor. He should have been sent to Gaza hospital that he destroyed..

Look at his nose like pig

kissdabride:
You must have been in the hell

it is your Bible that said he's in hell fire. Read your Bible

Matthew 25:46
Revelation 20:10
Revelation 14:10–11
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Matthew 13:41–42

123yes:
You have visited hell to knoe people who is there. Any motal can sick one time or the other. We must sick to show that we are human.

I will give you benefits of the doubt that you didn't know that evil man. He was 20x worse than Satanyahu. He killed Palestinians and their babies anyhow.

If you don't know him go back and study especially around year 2000. He committed atrocities.

I believe your are a Christian, so I will let you know answer where Ariel Sharon is right now to show you that I'm right.

Read your Bible

Matthew 25:46
Revelation 20:10
Revelation 14:10–11
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Matthew 13:41–42

So before you blame me blame your Bible first for sending wicked people to hell

Did I ask you for story?.

Now that you have acknowledged there are Christians in Palestine, why do you Christians support Jews who don't believe in Christianity against Palestinians?. Israel does not differentiate btw Palestinian Muslims and Christians. Israel does not want Palestinians and the state of Palestine, period. So you see now that you are deluded?. And you said they don't need Pilgrimage from Nigeria. Then why do Nigeria Christians consider Israel as their holy land?. You Christian people are confused.

Lastly, Arab Muslims and Arab Christians have no issues. It is you western Christians that have issues with Arab Muslims and Christians and create problems over there.

ogaemma:
Here you go again. You really need a lot of knowledge and information about the middle East.
We have more Christian's in Palestine than we have in Israel.
Infact the Ancient Palestine territory is dominated by Christian's.
Majority of Israeli are Jews.
Jews are not Christian.
They do not Celebrate Christmas.
They Celebrate the Ancient Passover till date.

The idea of discouraging Christians from Niger state not to go for pilgrimage in Israel, is another evidence that the governor is clueless and brainless.
They don't even know what is hard in their states.
All they know is how to loot.
I have not been to Mecca, but I have been to Ryad the Capital.
I will not speak against either Mecca or Ryad, because is not the subject of our discussion and I will not change the narrative.

imam07:
u idiots do dey talk down on Isreal for long yet they are gaining ground. So nah you dey in good position to announce dat Isreal reputation is damaged. U go dey inside your dirty face me i slap you go dey talk rubbish. You no talk of your Nigeria dat it's reputation don spoil tey tey. Hatred don turn you people to fools. You can't think straight any longer. Your Muhammed dat waged several wall and stole people's land. His reputation no damage for your eyes. Islamic terrorist killing innocent people in d north, their reputation never spoil ba? U be serious wereh. Isreal that is more peaceful than Nigeria u said it doesn't have good reputation. U better use your senses

I didn't insult you nor did I mention you. Why would you call me name?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aiH4y4fmsg?si=SDUXtE_SOjLYyGhA

tunwumi:
Read about wisdom of Yasser Arafat

Israelis see Arafat as terr orist. So why do you need wisdom from a 'terr.orist" that you don't like?. Did they make use of his wisdo6?. At the end of the day they killed him. So why do you need his wisdom if you don't believe in him?

zoer:
Did the quran states how Satan was expelled from heaven?

If NO how did I come about it?

If YES enlighen us please

How u take know about am?

You can help yourself
QUR'AN chapter 7 verses 11-25
QUR'AN chapter 7 verses 19-37

ogaemma:
I will forgive you because you finally agreed that Jesus was a martyr.
But disabuse your mind and orientation, those your middle east terrorist are not martyrs.
They are dieing a fools death.

Ariel Sharon suffered a hemorrhagic stroke on 4 January 2006, and managed stroke in a care facility from late 2006 until his death. Sharon died at 14:00 on 11 January 2014.
That is nothing new. IBB is currently managing stroke.
People die of stroke in other parts of the world 🌍.

But you can't compared Sharon's death to Yeser Arafat who died slowly out of an unknown poison.
Or Saddam Hussein, who was violently hanged to death on a live tv watched by over 1 billion people in the world.
What about coward Osama Bin Laden who was shot violently by the Navy seals in the presence of his wives and little children.
Bin Laden was buried in the sea in an unknown location.
What about Gaddafi who was slaughtered in the streets of Libya by his own Mustrata brigade.
What a way to disrespect their memory.
None of their death is a good ending.
Start telling them to embrace genuine peace.

I know you are in serious pain with this your response. Anyways, this current "war" is not even fought in Israel proper, yet Israel can not have peace with itself. There is peace in Mecca and Muslims make pilgrimage there from around the world. But in Jerusalem Xmas is boring. You can't make pilgrimage to Israel because of war. So then you should ask yourself if Israelis are not being bombed like Gaza why can't Christians make pilgrimage to Jerusalem for Xmas?.

These are Palestinian Christians praying for peace rather than celebrating xmas. They can't celebrate Xmas. If you want genuine peace, remove Israel from the map and West Asia (middle East) will be Peaceful. I am not fooled by your so called "peace"

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15ZrtTrWPs/

Ovacoma:
It's very important!

you see I didn't argue with you about the so called history because you simply wrong and I didn't need to waste my time.

new2012:
How old are you? How old is Netanyahu? Bro pray you reach half his age, with this negative mindset.

He is 75! He has played his scene even if he were to go

it is not how old. It is how and what you did.. if genocide is a good deed to you then, you have problem.. Bible inspired his genocidal campaign. According to him, anyone that is not a Jew is a Goin or Amalek

SeriouslySense:
Netanyahu is a martyrdom , hence the cancer will not win. With prayer.

Neyanyahu doesn't believe in prayers. He's atheist

ogaemma:
In case you do not know, all men will one day go down in this earth, but how they go down matter's.
But the death of your brainless jihadist terrorist will always be a violent death, they will all die violently like Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden and Hassan Nassrallah.
Not until they genuinely embrace peace.
In the open they pray with the Quran and use their forehead to touch the ground, but in the secret they kiss their guns and use their forehead to touch their AK-47.
Bloody thirsty hypocrites.

Throughout history of man, most of those people that died violent death were heroes. That's why they are called martyrs. One great example of this was Jesus. According to Bible, he died a violent death. Yet he's considered a good person. I don't know if you will now try to change how he died?. To nail someone brutally on the cross is nothing but violent death. Hence, those people you mentioned above followed the example of Jesus martyrdom. So if Jesus is going to paradise those people are also going to paradise.

Ariel Sharon died in bed in sifia pain not violent death. Therefore he couldn't die like Jesus

Validated:
Quick recovery Ben, we need you to send all terrorists and Terrornalists to their imaginary virgins. All those supporters of Islamic terror in Middle East will be exterminated before 2025 December

Devil (Satan) didn't learn lesson until he was expelled from paradise.. Neyanyahu is near his end buddy.

He will go down like his predecessor in a terrible state of health gradually and painfully before his soul is ripped from his body. Remember Ariel Sharon?. He suffered painful death before death came. So is Satanyahu. His suffering has just began. He will soon realize he's not invincible. Evangelical Christian like you will go down with him in hell.

Ariel Sharon is burning in hell at the moment

sweetjohn:
Yeeeeh! Israel is supposed to be afraid of this your stupid post. They will start running and climbing the trees and begging idiotic Islam to come and kill them. Are you idiots not ashamed of una self. Islam is what the world will soon put an embargo on, because it’s evil.

Jews have always been isolated for centuries ago, yet they grew to be stronger and more intelligent, it’s the world that needs them most. When you talk of the country that is in the forefront of Ai, na them. Talk of technology and innovation, na still them. So what the hell are you idiot talking about. You people are so delusional that you fools don’t know that it’s you guyz the world dislike the most. I mean who in his right senses will be supporting people who want to use jihad to kill every other persons for a dead useless bloodsucking and evil Allah.

who asked you for history class?

Leonardo4:
You believed Hamas when they said non of their fighters where in the hospital but didn't believe israel that they arrested Hamas fighters. What made u believe Hamas and not Israel. Where u on ground to confirm Hamas fighters weren't there? Or you are a member of Hamas fighters

how did Ashifa hospital "command and control center" goes?. Did they find the command and control center?

Are you quick to forget at the start of genocide IDF unclothed hundreds of civilians, blindfolded them and called them Hamas fighters?. Even US did not believe that rubbish.

Karlman:
So Israel already planned the next war and you and hamas who already knows still went ahead to attack and kill civilians in their homes. You lots are very lucky it's Israel you're messing with, if you had messed with a barbaric country by now there would be no place called gaza and it's justified.

are you Christian?

Musauzor:
Because Hamas said none of its fighters were at the hospital and you sheepishly believed them. So you expected Hamas to admit that they had a temporary base at the hospital ? You are just a terrorist sympathizer . Hamas will never govern Gaza again in this life or in the life to come. Know this and you will have peace of mind .

How did Ashifa hospital goes?. Did you find Hamas "command and control center" yet?.

Coolboy009:
The weapons and explosives at the hospital are also used for medical treatment by the civilians? Dey play.

Yes sure. This baby was Hamasss too

BigboyOJ:
If Hamas has fighters there will they say they have?..the way some of you reason with your anus is mind blowing.

Besides the way the figures keep changing is suspicious.shebi the director of the hospital said it is 66 staff where did others come from..

The IDF should grill them thoroughly,the truth will surely come out.

when Israel attacked Ashifa hospital in March, Hamas was present there and declared its presence to protect the hospital.

Mintum:
Lmao, what repercussions? From who? Things are about to get astronomically more better for Israel from January next year.

always remember this just in case. The "victory" that Israel achieved in Syria was handed to Israel by Alkaida. So we can conclude that Israel, alkaida and IS-IS are the same. As you could see, Israel did not encounter resistance in Syria because alkaida came to power.

You Gerrit?

timota:
Ha.mas terrorist group do not have a military uniform so that's what makes them look like civilians.

and how did you come to conclusions that those no uninformed individuals are Hamasss?

tunwumi:
My main issue is when I read "neutralize" which I know means "kill people" give me concern.

Gaza just give Israel opportunity to depopulate them with that foolish attack.

All this international pressure ain't achieving any dam thing.

Israel image is damaged forever internationally. Let the dust settles and start to see repercussions from every inch of the world.

When you said "depopulate" it means Israel killed them. They didn't move out of Gaza. They were killed. You know what that means?. Just wait and see.

America understands the consequences that's why US is using veto power every time.

As for Hamas, whether Hamas carried out Oct 7 or not Israel had already planned their next attack on Gaza after 2021 short war. Israel declared that the next war would be the last one. Israel knows how to start the war either way.

The so called 250 arrests at the hospital I can guarantee you that they are civilians. Hamas already said that none of its fighters were at the hospital.

TobiAbuja:
They already have and call it a genocide.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

Cool, thanks

Kick that amnesty international out of your country. Let them go and probe Benjamin Satanyahu first. They keep mute on Gaza genocide for 15 months.

Nonesense