DExponential:

I didn't say they will lose too. I said they won't drop points. Do you really think Manure can stop them?

Man U are home and playing for pride.

As bad as United have been this season, how many home games have they lost?

Liverpool barely beat CFC and Leicester. They are a good team but they are not invincible. And December will soon come upon us.

wman:
People keep forgetting that Liverpool are serial bottlers.

Even if this 8 points gap were to be in March, I won't be so positive.

Not to talk of early October.

Let's wait abeg.

It is not even about them being bottlers.

People are acting like they will win 38 games. They won't.

And people are forgetting that City won 100 and 98 points.

They know how to string wins consistently.

So this 8pts is nothing especially since it is October.

If this was say April then it will be harder because the amount of games left to play will be too few to predict where 2 losses and a draw will come from.

I mean, Liverpool have already lost in the UCL. They can and will lose games.

DExponential:

They won't drop points at Old Trafford

I did not say they will lose.

I said drop points.

They will.

NinjaMetahuman:
willing to put your arms on it again?

Of course,

When I am being emotional I will tell you.

I actually want Pep to win the UCL.

The league is a forgone conclusion. The only reason people are this excited is...because it is Liverpool and because they hate Pep.

Fergie was winning league titles from Wenger 12pts behind in December. I wonder why people don't see that 8pts is not insurmountable.

8pts is just 2 Losses and a draw which Liverpool will more than have.

They are most likely going to drop points at United, At Emirates, at Etihad and (even Anfield but I am still praying about that one). Leicester away. Everton away.

You can save this post.

macjireh:

and if Shitee don't win EPL in may 2020,,,wat will u offer us

What did you offer me last year when I was right? What about the year before?

DExponential:
For those wey watch City match, who be this abeg?

Otamendi.

They dribbled him 3 times this way in this game luckily only one led to a goal.

NinjaMetahuman:


whatever


you and ramdueter should tell us how fa made wolves scored 2 goals today.


or forced apari to bench kdb against norwich that made him lose.

explain to us how they have helped Liverpool this season.

I did not tell you FA is the reason City did not win. City deserved to lose today for how bad they played.

I did not also say the FA want Liverpool to win the league. Liverpool have just been some what "lucky" with some of the reffing.

My own is, come May 2020 City will be crowned EPL champions for the 3rd straight time.

NinjaMetahuman:
and did liverpool win the league last season?

if fa wanted liverpool to win last season, they woulda told refs to make bad calls that would prevent city from wining.

how many times have you, diggz and airmark argued here about mancity getting unfair advantage in some games 2 seasons ago and last season?


which game has Liverpool played this season that they didnt deserve to win?
what changed from last 2 seasons and this season?
Var.

You argument is what they call a hailmary argument.

The game people felt was controversial was Bournemouth 2-1 win in which the ref added 3 mins but did not end the game till the 5th min because 1 min into the added time, Bournemouth stopped the game for 3 mins when some guy faked an injury.

People forget that added time means "minimum of (whatever minutes)".

raumdeuter:


Speak with facts

Last yr Salah got at least 4 fake penalties by diving plus offside goals vs west ham

Tell the game city got undeserved extra time and also remind us the exact minute Origi scored the winner vs Everton last season

I wonder why you are bothered.

I have seen enough of the EPL to know league titles are not won in October.

People are acting like this season and last look any different.

We will be here, May 2020, City will be crowned champions again.

Ibime:


Stop getting personally attached. We talking angles here on how Vector can get at him. Vector can definitely get at him convincingly, whether true or false, he just needs to make it convincing

I am not getting personal. I am saying how Nigerians will view it. You can't attack something that can easily be refuted. Imagine someone attacking Psquare for not being as rich as they claim.

Heywhizzy:
MI just recently posted a picture of a mansion and tagged it my home last week.. I don't think M is still renting, Vector stays at his Babe's place(allegedly) for God's sake

I saw it. He was even in London at the time when Vector went to his lounge..to buy Henny and make MI more money. lol

Ibime:


Nah, he can definitely attack him on this point. House is not liability. If Vector owns his place, he can say "I built house where all my family live cos I take care of my people. . . while you are parking 2011 car in your Landlords garage just for Instagram" etc etc.

There are so many ways to finesse the picture even from a weaker position and steal the hearts of the street.

I mean, this is based on the assumption that he does not have a house.

And MI takes care of more people. He has bought people cars. He is known for his generosity. It is why he attacked Vector on that premise.

Ibime:


Trust me, Vec can talk money to MI even if he is not as rich so long as he is creative enough to show MI is not as rich as he is flaunting. He doesn't have to compare, he just needs to show MI is living fake life and is not a chairman, only gets N500K per show, his people are struggling etc, then bring it back to a wider point about reputation. It would be something along the lines of what you get from me is real, what you see from him is fake, he does nothing for his family etc etc

If anyone claims MI gets 500k per show, it means Vector gets less than 50k.

I am not sure people understand how big MI is in Africa.

People (rappers) hate to cross him because you could miss out on shows just because of that. Most companies will call MI first and if he cannot make it, they look for other rappers.

Ibime:


He'll need serious personals to come back at MI not punchlines cos MI seriously injured him as a man, never mind a rapper.

He should start from MIs association with that South African rapper that every Nigerian hates. How MI punked out when Burna Boy threatened him. He can also punch serious holes in MI reputation as being successful eg MI is still renting one rundown crib. He can call MI out on his claim of lifting others out of poverty by showing Jesse Jagz is broke, Ice Prince is broke with his Ghanaian girl cheating on him. He can really puncture MIs claim to success but he will have to be creative with it eg at the height of MI success after MI2, MI went to buy second hand Benz. Truth be told MI is still somewhat struggling out here but Vector needs to paint the picture well. He needs to throw enough shït at the fan and let faeces fly everywhere.

Being more successful doesn't automatically translate to winning a battle if the other side can punch holes in your credibility eg Remy Ma vs Nicki Minaj.

1. MI did not say everybody must be successful. He said atleast give them a platform to try. MI put Jesse and Iceprince on. If they don't have money today it is not on him. At a time, Ice prince was commanding the most money as a Nigerian artist.
2. Whether MI is struggling or not (which he is not) he is still the most successful rapper from Africa.
3. Having a house is not a sign of wealth. Houses are liabilities. MI has businesses, lounges, endorsements.

Heywhizzy:
Do you rate that 2 hours freestyle? Sounds more like two hours interview to me, no flow, just talking rhyming words given to him.. Any American rapper that tries that will be trolled heavily but people here feel it's one thing special.. Every rapper can rhyme words given to them, catch his breath, pause and have the freedom to think for few seconds after giving another word

God bless you

elrony:


Lol that one goes turn another argument wey no go end. I no get strength

People see what they wanna see Las Las.

I need to learn how to do this consistently.

airmark:


Which ones are lukewarm metaphors?

Yes they have bastardized it. The era in which, biting bars, words for words is applauded by the likes of eruditor.

Biting what bars?

airmark:


If you read my post well, you wouldn't have posted this rubbish. I actually called that line a good line that could easily be understood by casuals like you.

Lol. "Casuals". "Easily understood". And in the same breath praising Vector.

I will run circles around you in hiphop knowledge.

Let me just leave it there.

elrony:


Perhaps I am.

Hip hop don pass level of throwing about similes and lukewarm metaphors that seem catchy.

It's is deeper than that.

That is what I was trying to tell Airmark.

Rap is beyond "if I dey piss you off go wee wee"

nihilistjnr:


I didn't say the whole song was a ripoff of mocking bird.

I just said he stole borrowed Eminem's concept, and mentioned the place where he did it (where he's speaking to vectors child in vectors voice)

Ok then.

I agree.

elrony:


What is there to water down at the bolded?

Lol

I "sea" what you did with water.

But don't worry to Airmark..that is a deep line.

Lol

elrony:


Jude never denied the bolded tho.

MI just hypes his brother. All of us with ears know this is a lie.

Jesse is overall more talented - yes. Because he can do more things - produce, sing, patois etc more than MI.

But as rappers? MI is 100% better and more intelligent.

nihilistjnr:


What is this one talking about?

MI jocked Eminem's scheme on Mockingbird, specifically verse 2.

Mockingbird is a song where Eminem is talking to his daughter.

MI imagines a scenario where vector is talking to his child, and begins to rap as the voice of vector.
.
Eminem raps to his daughter referring to himself in 3rd person as daddy, and uses that word to form a scheme that spans the whole song.

MI also uses The daddy scheme to rap to vectors child.

You are better than this.

MI visualizes himself as one of Jacob's (Israel) sons in this case Judah since that is the Hebrew way of saying Jude (Greek) which is MI's name.

In that chapter 49 v 8-10 of Genesis, Jacob (playing God) blesses his sons (MI) and tells him he will defeat his enemies and will be king over his brothers (Vector and other rappers).

This forms the central theme of MI's rap.

He starts by talking to one of his brothers (Vector) and addresses his jealousy. That is the central theme of verse 1. In this plot Vector is representative of Dan who Jacob says will be a snake - a Viper (v 17)

So it made sense why MI addressed Vector head on and calls him a Viper. The double entendre here is Vector's alias is also Viper.

2. After talking to Vector. MI goes on to speak about Vector's own "sons" explaining to them how their father's destiny meant he was always bound to be less successful than Judah.

That is why he had to use the Daddy scheme. That it sounded like what Eminem did in Mockingbird does not mean that was the theme. Which is why I originally said MI was not necessarily trying to do the daddy thing. He had to because of the overarching plot of the song.

And if you noticed it was just like 8 bars in the second verse. So you are doing a serious disservice to him by claiming the whole track was a rip off of Mockingbird.

At the end of the day, MI ended the track by saying he was representing the voice of God to Vector. The same way Jacob was representing God to his kids and God was representing himself to Abraham (since there was no higher authority he could send).

In summary, Mockingbird similarity was just a minor area of the whole track.

airmark:


So everybody should continue feeding off other people's lines. Sorry, i don't dig that.

I did not tell you it was correct or not.

I said it is common that people recycle bars.

Some of the popular Chelsea fathers do so here.

airmark:


What happens if i quote it? Let me know what you want to prove? I don't want to get involved in your usual lengthy convos today abeg.

LOL L-eschewer.

I want to prove to you that before and after Jessie Jags some other rappers unrelated to even Nigeria would have used similar lines.

Oasis007:


He must not rush to respond. That's my only Advice for him.

The way you people are saying this "he should not rush" I am wondering what you have listened to that makes you think even if he had 5 years he will come up with something decent.

hensben:
You can tell by mare watching them. Stat don’t need to tell me Messi is far far far superior to Zaha. Or are you trying to tell me in this example you just gave Hazard is Zaha level while Neymar is Messi’s? That’s blasphemy considering what Hazard has done in terms of performance is equal or if not more than that of Neymar.

Which means playing for a big team is not a solid argument.

Thank you.

Griffon:


Like I earlier stated, Salah, Mane and Sterling are playing for ultra-attacking sides. They're under the tutelage of managers who have systems that are designed to break defensive structures. Hazard never enjoyed such at Chelsea.

This is just match-day six in Spain, and he has already buried one in the onion bag, let's see how the Belgian ends his campaign.

I never reach your level, that of Ibime or Nihilist, I for say make we bet am $200 that Eden go score up to 30 in all competitions this season with Real.

Anybody who places the bet will lose it.

airmark:


I know you dont even see anything wrong in biting another rapper's lines. I know you already.

Please quote the line he bit.

Let me expose you.

hensben:
How about the team and league they have played for which is one of the factor I am talking about.

You are making the same excuses now.

How can we tell Messi is better than Zaha since he has always played for a good team compared to Zaha?

hensben:
You can’t just say because player A scored more than player B so therefore player is better when u didn’t put a lot of factors into perspective. Football have been all about total performance on the pitch to rate a player and not just goals scored as stat don’t tell it all. It is only on nairaland I see such trivial statement which is ridiculous by the way.

I said better AT THAT THING.

When you now put all the things that player A is better than player B at, and they are significant. You can then conclude that player A is better.

airmark:


Recycle ko decycle ni.

He bit jagz line, word for word.

Even nihilist also noticed that he used Em's schemes alot. Not taking anything away from him, but in rap battle, both on their best days, Vector will tear him apart.

Biting a line, is contemptuous to real heads. I know your argument always go annoyingly long with no point, that's why i begged you earlier to keep your lectures.

Please don't reply this.

LOL. You make me laugh because you always try to venture into subject matters that are above your pay grade.

MGK was a renowned Eminem fan so Eminem could play the father/son theme with him.

MI was not playing the father/son theme. I know you don't know the difference.

"Biting a line is contemptuous to real heads"

I wish you knew who you are talking to.