airmark:


Schooled? Naaah.

I was expecting harder punchlines in those 5mins. He called it an advice, so i will give him that.

In a rap battle, you don't come with bible. MI knows that most real heads would be disappointed, so he called it an advice. Smart move.

LOL

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steady986:

He followed AI to every team, lol, including Besiktas. And when he retired he stopped watching basketball entirely.

He didn't like the Lakers but he spent his entire life watching them. Lol. That must be one hell of a hatred. Don't be fooled bro. The time Kawhi made those comments was just before a game against the Lakers at Staple Centre. What did you expect him to say? "Oh I love the Lakers and everything about them, I've been supporting them since I was a kid and I'd even love to play for them one day" It's all PR stunt bro. We know how it works. If not Kawhi should be having a meeting right now with the Sixers rather than the Lakers.

And make no mistake about me, I'm a diehard laker fan and I'm not about to argue with you on that.

Nick Nurse was watching GSW all season. He said so. Everybody watched the Lakers in their heydays does not make you a fan for goodness sake. They were the best team, everyone would watch them.

TheCockroach:


Shut the fvck up you mug! When did minutes get brought into this? you said curry > Kawhi cause you said his ppg is higher, then i said by that logic lillard ppg is higher and that means hes better than curry. You claimed i was lying and that lillards ppg wasnt higher cause your simple mind cant interpret stats. Now that i've exposed you, you are bring up minutes and blowout games. You've backed out of your words two times now, no one will ever take you seriously, not that i did to begin with. Fvcking shameless clown.

I listed many reasons Curry was ahead including their career points per game. You foolishly brought in Dame (whose average is less and I proved it).

Peradventure, they were the same, then other factors will come in. Which is why Jordan said Kobe was better than Lebron. Which is why Jordan is waaaaaaaaay better than Lebron.

steady986:

Lol. So Kawhi started rooting for AI in 2001. What happened to all the years before 2001? Or he started watching basketball in 2001? And after AI left Sixers what team was Kawhi supporting? Did he follow him to Denver and Detroit and Memphis and Turkey? And what happened when AI retired, he had no team to support or he continued supporting Sixers?

I need answers to all these questions o.

I did not say he started rooting for him that year. The inference was that the year he had to be pit against his family had to be in 2001 when Lakers played the Sixers in the finals.

Kawhi, by logical reasoning was opened up to falling in love in 2000 when Kobe and Shaq ran ragged. But felt more drawn to A.I. It is clear he followed AI to every team he played for. I already said so. Kawhi said HE DID NOT LIKE THE LAKERS. He was an AI fan.

There are 2 fools who are the same. They go where Bron goes. From Cavs to Heats to Cavs and now LA. They are Lebron fans not Lakers fans for e.g.

I command the spirit of chronic foolishness to leave you. Right now. Right now. In Jesus' name. Amen.

You are simply trying to save face.

Use the same mins for Kawhi and Curry and see who is ahead in that.

You are claiming to be a statistician yet pretending that the minutes played will not factor. So a player that has 800 NBA games over his career but played only 3mins per game should be juxtaposed with another who had 800 games and played 20mins per game?

Just get lost. The minutes played are a subset of the games so that is a more discrete yet politic way of measuring a central tendency. I wonder why I even thought you were any better than Steady986.

Besides, when 2 players average about the same in a certain measure, another dynamic will be introduced to negotiate a means of discriminating between them. For Dame and SC, their awards, efficiencies, head to head records, skillsets etc will be the dynamics. You don't argue that everything that makes someone else better should not count and then introduce your own that is neither here nor there.

The only thing Curry has less than Kawhi is defensive stats which can be attributed to the height and strength disparity between them. Skill set, awards, scoring, titles etc Curry is ahead. You are the most hopeless creature on God's green earth. I curse the day I thought you were better than Steady986.

steady986:

You make me laugh I swear. That is all I do whenever I read your post. You're just the same thing as when a mad man says "I'm not mad".

I fell in love with basketball watching Shaw and Kobe. The Lakers were the only team his family watched while he was growing up. Unless he wasn't a part of that family then I don't see how he watches Sixers in a Lakers family. Why didn't he say he fell in love with basketball watching Allen Iverson. Abi weren't they all in the same era?

That is why you are hopeless.

David Beckham's own son is an Arsenal fan.

How many NBA players have kids whose favourite player and teams they root for is different from the one their father played for?

Kawhi saw Kobe and Shaq winning and how they played. He fell in love with basketball. That is what he said. He fell in love with the NBA. Not the lakers. The NBA. Then as he started watching the games, he became a fan of A.I and when his family rooted for Lakers to win. Kawhi instead wanted AI to win. We can even tell that the year in question is 2001. When Kawhi was 10.

LOL.

Swerve biko.

This was my post before the anti.spam.bot nabbed me

I am hearing all of the jokes: I know they are trying to push me/ I know that showing emotions don't ever mean I'm a pu$$¥/ I know I don't make music for Niggas who don't get pu$$¥/So those are the one's I count on to diss me or overlook me/ ~ Drake 'Lord Knows' FT Rick Rozay.

SmooshCHN:
I thought I was the only one. They seemed so satisfied with playing zero defense and chucking up 3s.. This kind of shows how less of a leader Harden can be.. I fully understood why the went after PJ Tucker to bring mental toughness to the team.. Anyways, KD didn't seem sharp but Curry needs to be sharper. I was shocked he picked up two early fouls and McCaw had to step in. And that last second turnover by Curry

Anyways, I'm not even worried at all.. We'll be good so far we stay healthy..

We went down 34-20 with Draymond out and we lost by only 1 against the team many say will be second seeded. To add to our sloppy play etc. I would take the loss.

VivaLaByke:
See Rakitic flopping simple passes FFS.


Ya Allah give him a cardiac arrest.

Oh jeez. You crack me up a lot!

SmooshCHN:
Can you tell me why they were celebrating like they won the championship??

Good morale booster for them. It sets the tone for their season. I remember a game like this last season that ended 132 -127 in their favor. Ofcourse, Curry had foul trouble just like yesterday's game.

There were too many TOs from KD and we missed Iggy and Draymond but this will be the first time in 4 seasons that I could not care less about regular season games as long as we get our customary 67+ wins.

Happy for Swaggy P sha. He went in.

Vivere:


What well seasoned lawyers? Falana and who? Kindly list all of them. Do they include all the SANs in Nigeria, or do they consist of all the members of the Nigerian Bar Association? If you read Falana's submission, you would see where he clearly said that PMB still has powers to issue approvals, even if he decides to delegate such powers. Or did you overlook that bit?

Red Herring. If Femi Falana, Olisa Agbakoba, Festus Keyamo and people of this ilk are saying something, don't you think you should take a closer inspection? Femi Falana did not claim that the President has powers to approve any contracts because that would be a lie. I was really giving you the benefit of the doubt initially but now it appears you are deliberately lying to justify your position. Which implies that you even know in your heart that you and Baru are wrong. For the record this is what Femi Falana said:

"Apart from constituting the NCPP and the BPP, the President has not been empowered to approve any contract whatsoever. In fact, there is no reference whatsoever to the Federal Executive Council in the entirety of 61 sections of the PPA".http://saharareporters.com/2017/10/11/nnpc-operates-outside-law-femi-falana

You said: "As a minister of state for the umpteenth time - he derives his powers from the substantive Minister as ALL state ministers do according to the law." Please cite the relevant sections of that law right here, so we can all read it. Everyone has told you what the NNPC Act says, (an Act which regulates the activities of the NNPC and key players in the ministry), yet you are still here alleging that there is another law which grants a Minister of State full powers of a substantive Minister over NNPC. Please paste your own law here, so we can see the extent to which it conflicts with the NNPC Act.

You are still trying to be clever by an inch and you are failing at it. The Nigerian Constitution already states the role of All state ministers which is to derive their power through delegation. If Kachikwu had no delegated power from his substantive minister - then he was illegally appointed and PMB was wrong? If he had delegated power for e.g, appointed Chairman of the NNPC board then what is the role of the chairman of the NNPC board?

As for the BPP's recommendation, well kindly post the screenshot here too, if you have a hard copy of that recommendation, because it is obvious that from the way you are arguing, you have probably read the original report from the BPP in hard copy, not so? shocked Anyone looking at NNPC'S response, made on behalf of Baru, can clearly see that the section pertaining to the BPP's recommendation was quoted directly from whatever document the BPP had sent to them.

This is what NNPC claimed that you regurgitated:

The above clarifications of the provisions of the procurement process show that approvals reside within the NTB and where thresholds are exceeded, the NNPC refers to FEC for approval. Therefore, the NNPC Board has no role in contracts approval process as advised by BPP.

I told you expressly that this interpretation and conclusion is not only a blatant lie but makes no sense. The same BPP according to you and NNPC said this:

a. The BPP expressly clarified that NNPC Tenders Board (NTB) is NOT the same as NNPC Board. The governing board (NNPC Board) is responsible for approval of work programmes, corporate plans and budgets, while the NTB is responsible for approval of day-to-day procurement implementation.

As you can see the body and the conclusion clearly contradict themselves exposing the lies by Baru through NNPC. How is it that the NNPC board that approves CORPORATE PLANS and BUDGETS of the NNPC will have no role in contract approvals (which are subsets of the corporate plans and budgets of the NNPC) whereas the NTB that is only responsible for DAY-TO-DAY procurement implementation will unilaterally approve huge contracts?

The BPP did not make that false conclusion. Baru and NNPC did in a bid to authenticate his inanity and gross insubordination.

So far, the BPP has not denied making that statement, so what is your issue?

PMB has not also conceded to approving any contracts. He is not joining issues just like the BPP so your argument is null and void - again.

And Laolu Akande's statement buttresses Baru's rejoinder, where he said that the "both the Crude Term Contract and the Direct Sale, Direct Purchase (DSDP) agreements, are not procurement contracts involving the expenditure of public funds,” he said.

“Both transactions are simply a shortlisting process, in which prospective off-takers of crude oil and suppliers of petroleum are selected under agreed terms, and in accordance with due process." Kachikwu was the one crying wolf that Baru had received approval for contracts and sidelined him. Now since those agreements are not contracts, why was Kachikwu crying that they were contracts, which were not routed through him, especially since it has been clarified that not only were they routed through him, but he (Kachikwu) also contributed to the selection of the companies that were shortlisted?

This statement is so intellectually dishonest, it is insulting. NNPC claimed The VP approved the contracts on Kachikwu's list. I told you he had no such powers and you claimed he did. You were wrong. A day later news filtered through that the VP accepted that he approved one of the "contracts" listed by NNPC. You came back to arrogate correctness to yourself only to be left with egg on your face when the same VP came out to reclarify what he approved of - JV agreements and not contracts. You have still not answered questions on the other listed contracts many of which NNPC claimed passed through FEC. You have still not answered questions on the appointments all of which NNPC had nothing to offer except suspicious silence. You now want to turn around and claim the VP was backing Baru's rejoinder which is risible because at each conflicting intervals you have claimed the VP supported Baru - even when it is clear he did not.

Baru has even clarified that there was no $25billion contract anywhere, as it was not possible to assign any value to the crude oil term contracts. So where did you get your own 25 billion from? shocked

In fact, Baru gave a full breakdown of the contracts under reference. Please go through the list again, with an open mind if you can, and you would see clearly that Kachikwu is just a cry baby who has lost the plot, with regards to how a leader can effectively manage his staff.

Yea, another is trying too hard to steer this discourse into missing monies and what not. Just stop it as it is callow. Ibe Kachikwu never claimed $25Billion was missing. He simply totalled all the approvals that were obtained by the NNPC without his consent and it came to that figure. If Baru was being fair-minded, why then did he not seek Kachikwu's input in any of the listed approvals as the chairman of the NNPC board? This line of argument that means since Kachikwu was sought after in 1 of the approvals is proof that Baru was following due-process is puerile. Please, stop it.

PMB is back and has directed both Kachikwu and Baru to resolve their rift, and work together. I am sure that Kachikwu was disappointed at the turn of events. PMB has not come out to say he did not approve the contracts. And Osinbajo has clarified the kind of documents he approved (i.e. loans to finance the NNPC obligations to the JVs and IOCs, as can be seen clearly from this list.) Kachikwu should go back and put his house in order, drop his ego at the door and stop crying like a baby, about being sidelined.You are the one alleging that there were misrepresentations in NNPC's statement. Kachikwu has not come out to say so. In fact, he has been left looking like a toddler, whose favourite sweet was snatched from him, before he could finish it. If he still remains displeased by the turn of events, let him call it a day and seek another assignment, elsewhere.

PMB has realised his goof and is looking for how to save face. The news reel today even says he is lobbying the NASS to secure a soft-landing for his northern brother Baru. If that to you means that Kachikwu is disappointed at the turn of events - then I have to let you have your moments of consolation. I dare Baru after now to seek contract or procurement approvals (never mind appointments) without the consent of Kachikwu.

BTW, Kachikwu did not retract any claims: His ab initio complaints included other things amongst which is:

“At the minimum and like all other parastatals being supervised by me at the ministry have continued to do, and in compliance with the proper governance standards expected of a serious public institution, these executive actions by NNPC were supposed to benefit from mine and the board’s input prior to presentation to you.

and he re-echoed same words few days ago. I am posting a link of the BPPs manual on corporate governance etc. You can read from pages 75-96 (82-86 or so talks about the boards of parastatals etc) to see if you can find out how NNPC came to the conclusion that the NNPC board had no say in contract approvals. LOL.

http://www.bpsr.gov.ng/assessment-test/generated_reports/manual.pdf

Gordon will heal faster than is projected. I feel for him.

Celts should take courage and play for him. They look out of sorts at the moment. Painful.

Messi has never been outside top 2 in the world since 2007. Sadly, I can't say the same for that fanook they try to pit him with.

Kingdanitez97:
pls Ooo, where can I watch NBA dis season, since they've ended their contract with super sports

Mobdro or Kwesé sports app or links from Reddit streams of various games.

I don't know about TSTV for now.

Vivere:


I am tired of repeating myself. It has been pointed out over and over again, that the NNPC Act does not have anything in it, that assigns any role to a Minister of State. In fact, the word Minister of State is not even mentioned at all, anywhere inside the Act. It only recognises a substantive Petroleum Minister, and that Minister in this case is Buhari. If truly PMB assigned the powers of a full Minister of Petroleum to Kachikwu, let him tender the documentary evidence.

When a whole NNPC Act that assigns roles and responsibilities to the different players in the oil industry fails to mention a Minister of State, then what is Kachikwu relying upon to grant him powers to execute any function as Minister of State? Where does he derive his powers from? Most of the reforms and actions he carried out while he was GMD NNPC were made possible, because of the powers he was granted as GMD NNPC under the NNPC Act. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand. As a Minister of State, Kachikwu has no law giving him any powers that permit him to interfere in the daily affairs of NNPC, going by the NNPC Act.

As for the issue of Kachikwu complaining about being sidelined as Chairman of NNPC Board, the ACt clearly says that but it did not clearly define the term or nature of activities that fall under the term - 'affairs.' Based on this, would you say that if the NNPC wants to order ordinary toilet roll or pen and paper, it should refer to the Board? Clearly, that would slow down daily operations of the Corporation, as the intent of the law is not to bog down the Board with petty affairs, especially when the Board is expected to meet 4 times a year.

The same NNPC Act on the other hand is quite clear about the role, responsibilities and powers of the GMD NNPC. Further clarification was sought from the BPP with regards to the functions of the NNPC Governing Board, and the NNPC Tenders Board with regards to the procurement of works and services within the NNPC.

As discussed earlier in a previous post, I believe clarification provided by BPP is clear:

And when Kachikwu initially wrote his memo, he never even said that Baru contacted him and he made input into the selection of firms shortlisted for crude oil lifting. Why was he silent about that?

Just like Baru had earlier said, even the VP's spokesman who is the Senior Special Assistant to the Vice President on Media and Publicity, Mr Laolu Akande, has also come out to say:

This shortlisting process had Kachikwu's input, yet it was the same Kachikwu that alleged that crude contracts had been awarded without his knowledge. Like I said before, let Kachikwu respond publicly to Baru's comments before any further statements can be made, because it appears that he has handled the whole relationship badly, by allowing things to deteriorate to this level.

Nigerians are fond of throwing their ego into the mix, by expecting people to bow at their feet, once they get to a high level position. That is when you get to hear of words like 'insubordination etc'... really? How ridiculous is that? So a whole Chairman of NNPC Board cannot solve issues pertaining to insubordination quietly in-house, without leaking a memo to the press? This is simply an ego clash between both men.

For Kachikwu to have pleaded with Buhari in his memo in this manner, shows that he has lost the plot.

Kachikwu needs to be reminded again, that the position of Minister of State does not exist within the NNPC Act. He should ask PMB to clarify the extent of the powers he (PMB) has given to him as Minister of State, and document it for all and sundry. Alternatively, he could push for an ammendment of the NNPC Act to include specific roles, responsibilities and powers for the Minister of State, and Chairman of the NNPC Board.

This excuse of what the law said about state minister is weak and overused. PMB did not approve contract. Osinbajo did not approve contracts and you are still talking about state minister not written in the law. Does that not show that PMB has done something illegal? Oya, spin it now that PMB did not do anything illegal. I am waiting.

As a minister of state for the umpteenth time - he derives his powers from the substantive Minister as ALL state ministers do according to the law. This your hiding behind moot words is not working. If he had no role as it were, who then was tabling NNPCs issues to the FEC for goodness sake? Stop this talk about role and bla bla. PMB did not take NNPCs issues to the FEC and NO GMD IN HEAVEN AND EARTH CAN DO THAT. Only a member of the FEC can. Just rest this talk.

Stop trying to be clever by half. The affairs of the corporation are being decided by the board of directors. Who heads that board? Kachikwu. To add clarity to the ambiguity of affairs - the BPP had detailed what fell under what. The contracts approved according to Kachikwu totaled $25B and that could not have been done in valuations less than what was stipulated as beyond the reach of the NTB. He put out the figures.

Also, even the petty issues you described above after having been approved by the NTB must still pass through the NNPC board as they oversee all the AFFAIRS, PLANS and BUDGET of the whole corporation. You are just tying yourself into tortuous knots. There is no excuse whatsoever for Baru's insubordination.

I really LOLed at that part of your rejoinder in red. It was laughable. It was not included in the BPPs recommendation but was the conclusion drawn by Baru and his cohorts in NNPC. That conclusion, according to the law is FA FA FA FOUL! I warned you that you were regurgitating the misrepresentations of the law by NNPC but you did not listen. To remind you again, I will ask; if the NTB gets to make contract approvals on their own and only defer to the FEC at higher limits who then will take the memo of such contracts to the FEC? I am waiting for you to respond to that.

That statement is all shades of wrong. Another lawyer (a SAN, Quakers, on Law Weekly on Channels even said same). The NNPC board according to the NNPC ACT is responsible for CONTRACT APPROVALS. The NTB only implements contracts and directives of the board. Please, BPP cannot override the NNPC ACT and BPP did not. That conclusion was just conjecture and has been rendered null and void.

The NNPC board is instituted to oversee all the activities of the NNPC and the NTB. In fact, the GMD who is a member of the NNPC board gets his directives from the board and even when he procures minor contracts for the daily running of NNPC he must still subject it to the oversight of the NNPC Board. That is the standard. Stop peddling zobo here.

Kachikwu said Baru picked and chose when to get him informed or meetings to attend and which to delegate. That one is clear enough. You are doing a botched job if you think you are isolating one instance to show us that he was sometimes involved. You approved $25B contracts and only got the chairman of the NNPC board involved here and there - who the hell does that?

What are you saying about Mr. Laolu Akande? He has exposed the farce that you wanted to shift to when you wanted to claim contract approvals came from the VP when PMB was away. The VP has denied your's and NNPCs claims that he did any contract approvals. And remember I asked you that question: I said why will he seek Kachikwu's input on personnel and not on contracts? You still have not answered and cannot because Baru was wrong and so are you.

Now Kachikwu should have solved the issue in-house? How would he have solved it? By sacking Baru or overstepping the limits of his office? This is a puerile suggestion. Kachikwu did what he was supposed to do which is talk to the President. If he was as egotistical as you claimed why would he use the construction of humiliation and insubordination of his office? You are almost pulling excuses out of thin air.

The law knows the limits of the Minister of state; the NNPC board chairman and a member of the FEC. Other well-seasoned lawyers know so and have stated so. Fair-mindedness and common sense have said so. So join Baru and stand against all these forces. I don't envy you people.

Formation no just gel.


Long night ahead.

Neymar1095:

Guess what we are still getting Sanchez in January..... WTF

Champion's league is the main prize and to liberate him from Wenger's (now mediocre) claws.

Neymar1095:
De Bruyne is the best player in the league
right now, don't care what you saying

Ofcourse they know. Even the one's that were arguing that Pep was misusing him.

Vivere:

EruditorII

The NNPC also disproved Kachikwu's claims that he was sidelined in some other affairs of the NNPC, showing evidence that Kachikwu himself recommended firms for contracts and such firms were considered based on Kachikwu's objective recommendation.

This is the only thing worth responding to in the post as I never mentioned fraud or that money was missing.

As for the emboldened, how does mentioning that you sought my opinion once out of say nine contracts mean that you did not sideline me in eight others?

Vivere:


Kachikwu was playing smart by not asking PMB to constitute a board, when he was still GMD NNPC. I repeat there is no provision for Minister of State anywhere in the NNPC Act. So saying Kachikwu was acting Minister is wrong. Acting Minister of what? Buhari was still substantive Minister of Petroleum when Kachikwu was GMD NNPC, so Kachikwu could not have been the substantive Minister under Buhari. There are others who believe the lack of clarity with regards to matters that go to the board, and those that remain within the purview of the NNPC Tenders Board, has never been properly addressed. And this is one of the issues causing the friction between Kachikwu and Baru.

Hahahaha! How many appointments did Buhari not make in record time including the ministers? Please, this makes no sense. Left to PMB, he did not even want to convoke an NNPC board; he trusted Kachikwu to bridge the position of NNPC GMD and Minister. The very fact that you keep drumming on Substantive minister for PMB makes me wonder if you understand the sector at all. Kachikwu doubled as both state minister and GMD - PMB, the so-called substantive minister did not participate in the daily runnings.

I told you that PMBs role was needed so that Kachikwu would have some sort of authority playing oversight on him. The moment PMB sought to alleviate him of that position - it was right to constitute a board to play oversight over the GMD and the whole sector.

As per the talk about non-clarity of the board's role and the NTB. You are doing a bad job at circumlocution. No matter what is within the purview of the NTB they are still subject to the NNPC board and answerable to them - that is what the law says. Again, to put my question into context; how else will NNPC board supervise and oversee the plans and budget of the NNPC (which includes the NTB) that they would not have any input in the contract approvals?

Vivere:


Only 2 people were doing the same thing, when Kachikwu was GMD NNPC. Nobody complained of checks and balances at that time, o! In fact, he was both Minister of State and GMD NNPC, at the same time. Nobody raised an eyebrow at this anomaly, neither did they complain about checks and balances at that time too. Now the same people who saw nothing wrong with what Kachikwu did at that time, are now complaining about Baru doing the same thing, Kachikwu did. Interesting!

Don't make a dud claim and run when facts are sent at you. I kept reminding you that in Kachikwu's time there was no constituted NNPC board. He was both Acting Minister and GMD. So he took all approvals to the C-in-C and got them approved at FEC by himself (being a member).

When he left, PMB constituted a board so Baru was bound to defer to them but kept dodging them and approving contracts flimsily.

I cannot believe you are still trying to defend this illegality even after you have defended many positions all of which have now contradicted themselves. It is criminal if not baffling.

cc Vivere

I thought I told you Osinbajo could not approve contracts without Ibe Kachikwu's input.

Oya, come and spin this one again. VP has spoken.

Vivere:


You are going round in circles. Osinbajo was acting President, or have you forgotten? He had powers to approve or deny contracts. And the input Baru was asked to get from Kachikwu concerned NNPC personnel changes, and not contracts. Osinbajo has NOT said he approved those contracts without seeing Kachikwu's input, has he? Also, the NNPC act made it possible for GMD NNPC to get approvals from either FEC or the Petroleum Minister or the President. The phrase Minister of State was never mentioned in the NNPC Act. This has been stated over and over.

Kachikwu that initially said he was sidelined with regards to contracts, has not come out openly to say that he didn't nominate 9 firms for crude oil contracts, after NNPC made its 2nd statement. That is why I keep
telling you to go back and read everything again. With an open mind, if possible. Kachikwu has handled this whole thing badly, and it could backfire on him, if care is not taken.

Provide the NNPC Act that says the GMD can get approvals from the President or Petroleum Minister let us examine it. This penchant of throwing any phrase about hoping it sticks needs to stop. If Osinbajo needed Kachikwu's input for personnel changes why would he not need the same input for contract approvals?

If Osinbajo did not say he approved those contracts without Kachikwu's input so when did Kachikwu give his input? Atleast you have conceded that Baru did not seek Kachikwu's input. This is the truly cyclical argument.

If NNPC claimed that Kachikwu made recommendations on 9 companies after his input was sought after - then it infers that at the point where Baru let that happen he was following due process. So what is your excuse for the times he did not follow it, after all the claim now that he could bypass Kachikwu according to the law can be rubbished by this particular claim. I hope you see the flagrant contradiction.

Kachikwu insisted that Baru was picking and choosing when to get the board involved and when not to. NNPC gives us one example of such a time when they requested and got his input but remain mum on the other instances he raised and you are telling me to read it again? LOL. You are making me laugh.

And when would Kachikwu refute this claim of these 9 companies if it is untrue? NNPCs rejoinder just got released today or his perceived silence until tomorrow means he is complicit and if he gainsays their claims tomorrow you would look for another excuse to shift the goal post in your bid to defend something that is laughably illegal.

Vivere:

Really? Go and read it again. Also read Osinbajo's reply that he approved NNPC'S contracts while he was acting President. Then tell me what you think.

Kachikwu's mismanagement of this entire incident may end up costing him dearly.

I have read it over and over again. Nothing was said.

So Osinbajo approved an NNPC contract unilaterally? Who gave him powers to? At what point did he get it to approve of it without the consent of the FEC? If the FEC were involved who presented the memo to them?

The same Osinbajo that sent Baru to get input from Kachikwu approved a contract without same Kachikwu's input?

I thought NNPC claimed President Buhari in his capacity as Petroleum Minister approved the contracts? Now it is Osinbajo in his capacity as acting president? Does acting president equate being Petroleum Minister?

This is preposterous. Please don't say this thing to any lawyer worth his onions you'd be shredded. PMBs govt stands to lose credibility for this so the VP has been offered as the fall guy. Due process was clearly breached and with each flimsy rejoinder the evidence becomes even more glaring.

Why is everyone silent on the appointments? Have you noticed the rhetoric that the NTB approves contracts is fizzling? Because it has been exposed to be another lie. The NTB does not approve contracts.

Have you noticed that each approved contract should have a seal by a member of the NNPC board as approved by the chairman of that board? So who is the chairman of that board and who did he approve to provide the seal on the contracts?

How is it possible that the NNPC board that is mandated to supervise ALL the activities of the NNPC (which includes the NTB) will somehow have no say in the contracts that are to be executed by the same NTB?

Okay just what if by an impossible happenstance Baru was right all along. What would be his reason for still bypassing Kachikwu? If he was being fair-minded and open - why dodge Kachikwu and hide behind the NTB?

NNPCs response that Kachikwu nominated so and so or that he acted without a board is redundant hogwash because I already told you on that other thread that he was Minister and GMD (as there was no board in place) so he simply had to get approval from the president himself. But now that Baru has a Board in place that oversees his office why sideline that board?

I have not received one credible answer from any of his sympathizers and it is really disheartening because I believed in this govt from the jump.

Vivere:

Falana submission does not hold water. It has been refuted by NNPC's 2nd submission today.

LOL. It has not been. NNPCs submission did not even address anything. It was laughable. They have been cornered.

Blue3k:


Well they already said Osinbajo followed due process. They process didn't break procedure from what

Stop supporting something that is illegal. Seunmsg is right. This acceptance by Osinbajo is suspicious. Femi Falana already brought out extant laws disproving all Baru and NNPC claimed.

cc Vivere.

Falana's take

duwdu:


The way you stylishly weave unrelated things at every turn in this debate, is really baffling, TBH. Again, neither the NNPC Board not it's Chairman has any direct control on the NNPC Tenders' Board! Haba.

And, seems you're hell-bent on giving Kachikwu all the powers he does not possess; otherwise, why would you start characterizing lawful and proper governance steps taken by Baru as "antics?"

My people, aside from all these back and forth though, to me the most damaging aspect of Kachikwu's letter, is the way he's now given undeserved ammunition to social media misfits to keep singing, "$26bn contracts awarded by Baru under Buhari without due process," or, "$26bn missing under Buhari," and so on, when, in fact, no such contracts exist, no such money has been stolen or misappropriated, and due process was followed all the way with respect to actions already taken/contracts already signed.

Unfortunately, those misinformation and propaganda are still being "visuvella'd" upandan, and possibly scaring away less informed investors. And to think that such things don't get easily erased from the minds and narratives of the gullible? Chai.

Kachikwu misfired big time on this one; he might have in fact unwittingly harmed the government of his benefactor already, just because of his now glaringly limited knowledge and poor understanding of a parastatal over which he himself (Kachikwu) was once installed as GMD.

Playing the victim at every turn is simply the nature of some people, even if they'd bring down the house while doing so. Kachikwu should simply back off this matter, as he's now appearing to do, and should in fact tender an un-reserved apology to at least his principal employer. I believe he can still be useful in the present dispensation. Today, he's already advocating that the power of the minister should in fact be wittled down/reduced, so as to allow parastatals such as the NNPC to do their work more effectively.

There we go. 'Nuf said.

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I could have dismissed your post as that of a bigoted troll but then you kept making grandiose statements that when put to the sword you can't back up.

The stupidity behind your first paragraph for example. So Baru wrote that rubbish and you guzzled it? Does that even make sense? Where is it done that the NNPC board (of which Baru is a member) which oversees the plans and budget of the whole corporation will somehow not be involved in the affairs of the Tenders board (of which all members here in are staff of the NNPC)? So how will the NNPC board oversee the budget of NNPC if it does not include the budgets approved by the NTB? Why must you talk like you have no brains simply because you think this is some North vs South debate?

So If what Baru displayed was not mischievous antics what else do we call it? Ibe Kachikwu's associates have also brought the law and Act to you to show that the Tenders Board don't approve contracts; they simply plan, organise, evaluate, execute and supervise the conduct of ‘procurement processes’ and not to approve contracts. So Baru was the liar stretching the limits of his power - which makes sense because what law would make the GMD and his goons approve contracts without oversight? That must be an inane law. Sadly, such law does not exist.

What is particularly funny to me is how you want to maintain that due process was followed in the face of glaring evidences against that fact. When did PMB approve those contracts? From his sick bed? When did FEC approve them and who tabled it to the FEC? PMB or Kachikwu saying he did not? Make up your mind on which illogic to guzzle.

I reserved my guffaw for the concluding part that Kachikwu is scaring away investors. That is a pipe dream. Without him no single investment would have been made with credible investors because it is clear it is only him they trust. If that were not so, why was there a recent leak in the press reporting how the GMD of NNPC through the GGM NAPIMS tried to force IOCs to be paying $100M a year to rehabilitate the North east? Is that one also part of the companies' mandate? Well, just incase you wanted to tow that path, the IOCs came to refute that it was part of their CSR especially when they pay their taxes to the FG. So you can spin your narrative in whatever helps you sleep at night.

You are talking about a Harvard trained lawyer who was chief counsel to the largest corporation in the world and you want to teach him how to interpret laws, Acts and regulations? You are bold but I don't envy you.

Read this incase you want to pretend you did not see it on Nairaland today;

https://www.nairaland.com/4109461/26-billion-scandal-kachikwus-camp

Tecno66:
Truth is that Kachikwu can not win this battle because Baru didnt act alone. He was encouraged to defy Kachikwu by corrupt anti-corruption crusaders and so he is safe. The NNPC board has been rendered impotent because instead of doing their duties as approved by law, they can only see what Baru wants them to see using Buhari as a cover. Remember, Baru himself is a member of the board. We all know the function of the board of directors from basic economics.

GBAM.

Saintp:


If PMB is not aware of this bullshit, then what is Baru still doing in NNPC? You guys should stop making excuses for PMB, it portrays him as very weak or clueless.

PMB is slow to act. He did not jump on the SGFs case any quicker and generally his greatest goofs have always been in trusting people around him who are not trustworthy.

Personally, I believe if Ibe Kachikwu had the slightest suspicion that PMB was backing Baru he would have quit. Him writing his memo to PMB to me was a sign that he felt the people surrounding PMB are the ones backing Baru. And this can easily be proved by the fact that despite writing that letter on the 30th of August, PMB did not act on it until the letter was leaked more than a month after.

If PMB had seen the letter he would simply have told Kachikwu that he was aware of the goings-on and Kachikwu would have either resigned or kept mum. Neither happened so it is fair to conclude that PMB had no idea.

Not every letter written gets to the president and not everyone can gain access to him if they are not in the "good books" of his team. That is why, even President Buhari's wife - Aisha - had claimed that there was a cabal running the govt at the abscence of her husband.