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Martz101:
i can't remember the last time Etebo had a good game for Nigeria

Nigeria vs Egypt. Siasia as coach. Nigeria vs Japan u23 Siasia as coach... Under Rohr can't remember any.

Kog45:
Good my man,now let's talk Nigeria/England and leave this Nwakili and Ajagun stuff,is becoming stinks.

Yes Boss. I eagerly await this game. Has always been a fantasy for me. Nigeria vs England. Between Joel, Agu, and Ogu whoever performs well in this game is on the way to Russia. I feel one may miss out on the plane. We have to wait and see.

komekn:
You have EVADED the substance of this discourse which is not Nwakali but a system that enthrones subjective favouritism over objective measured substantiated quality consistent continous outstanding performance.


You may find it hard to believe, but it's actually easier for a Nigerian national youth team player to get in than an innit boy as you put it.

Your prejudiced sentiment is underpinned with lack of knowledge bigotry, very sad indeed.

TIA. So your objective and non emotive stance is not about nwakali but the system. One that should invite tega, ovie and seyi over nwakali for the athletico game..... Am I getting you right.

Secondly you mean nwakali would find it easy to get a work permit and walk into the arsenal team better than tega for Liverpool onomah for Tottenham and seyi wherever he is, rather than been loaned across Europe? Please elucidate, I want to learn.

And also care to explain how I am now a bigot and also prejudiced? Especially over you?

Kog45:
Andrew sometimes better not to dabble into confrontation analysis cos eterisan and forgiveness are confronting not talking football.

Kelechi Nwakili is a young prospect and still developing? yes do we need to argue it cos against Atletico he did well.Hope to see him developing into a great player.

Ajagun is one of the project of Nigeria football and good at 25 not too old to make eagles in nearest future.He even deserves a look in but Rohr has his plan,so we can't force him.

I think based on special talents i don't see anything wrong in Nwakili invitation cos right now Nathaniel Challobah is training with England national team preparing to face Nigeria.

I will not deceive you Ajagun deserves a call based on his performance so far this season and funny enough we don't have much options in AM but sometimes it happen, so not a big deal.

chief sorry if it comes across that way. Everything you have said now is exactly what I have been saying, but forgiveness and komekn chose to ignore. I have already said ajagun deserves to be called up and I have apologized for calling him old and washed up

Post Russia we may see Ajagun. I will change my tone if it sounds confrontational. Sorry once again.

andrew444:
Ajagun is 25,he played regularly during his U20 days,he is one of the most capped U20 players then with 22 games and 12 goals for naija U20

Ajagun is 25..wow....... OK OK....I am not against him.. Ajagun over who right now in the super eagles..... See how this discuss has successfully changed from nwakali in the u23 training game against athletico into an ajagun for eagles call up?

forgiveness:
You're not even making sense again. Typical of two faced double standard fellows.

Onazi, Ogu, Brian, Joel are all the same age with Ajagun but you have called him Old washed player. Why?

they all have better careers right now. Sorry if calling ajagun old and washed up offends you. Again ajagun over nwakali for u23. That makes sense to you Àbí. Cos as far as I know nwakali is been prepared for u23.

Nwakali's career projection is up. You can project ajagun's and aluko's for us. So it is making it into an imaginary 35 man list based on hearsay naim de pain you like this. OK o. Continue.

Nwakali will be invited for the u23 and post Russia over ajagun and aluko, every day. Only ebere will be invited alongside cos he is also the future. Take that to the bank.

BTW I just wish ajagun will be called up for once just like kayode so we go rest for your hand. The question now is ajagun over who in the super eagles?

I am not an agent like you and komekn, so you guys are just doing your job. Have a good day.

komekn:
All of them are far higher in rating and ability than Nwakali, by the way i have talked to all of them and the willingness to play for Nigeria is not in question but our approach is.

I could bring in a lot more but just those for now, but that's not my focus but rather the system of selection that enthrones subjective favoritism over objective proven performance.

In reality Tega, Sei and Ovie are way far ahead they are not just future prospects but current top performers, they have all played a few games for their parent teams in the EPL a feat that is very far away if not near impossible for Nwakali in Arsenal as it stands.

The Eredivisie is rated 14th in Europe by UEFA it would therefore not be without credence to rate the Eerste Divisie as way below the Championship more on par with National conference and or league 2.

In reality we can look at players in the lower leagues to make comparison who i consider much better.

Eberechi Eze - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5662421/QPR-striker-Eberechi-Eze-worth-keeping-eye-spring-life-instant.html

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In my last two posts i gave you countless examples of supposed future prospects in English football that TOTALLY FLOPPED, that cost way more money than Nwakali, you have chosen to completely ignore these substantiated facts. Instead you are making irreverent comments without substance, just sentiment to buttress your position.

Why not humble yourself and learn and become enlightened.

good morning bros. This is my last response to you on this matter. Nwakali is not super eagles player. He u23. Ure innit boys would not have been ready to play for is in the athletico game. Fact.

I am not an agent like you, neither do I have the zeal to start bringing up statistics. Maybe someone will help me. But nwakali is from Nigeria not England so you don't expect it to be as easy for him as your innit boys in England.

So let me add.... Why was chalobah called to train with the 3 lions over wilshere and shelvey. Did he have better statistics too?

We have seen your preferred choices so whenever you criticize nwakali we know how to respond. Have a good day.

forgiveness:
So you mean Ajagun is not NFF project? Smh

You must be very ignorant.

Ajagun was a member of the U17 and U20 of our National team.

He was even the captain of Ndidi, Kayode and Simon, Shehu, Aminu Umar and Kingsley Madu in the 2013 U20 set yet he's not part of NFF project.

He was the only Nigerian that made the U20 Africa championship best 11 and he was the best player in that team.

However, some of these players have gotten into the National team by using it to the resart their career.

You surely don't have any idea.

is that all.... Tell me what I don't know not what I know. Abeg I am tired. How is ajagun more of future prospect than nwakali. Are they mates.

Ajagun mate pass am.... Stop going back and forth with this ajagun and aluko thing. They are not part of the team. Simple. They are not better than their mates in the team simple. As if you don't want ajagun in the national team so as to restart his career.

Nwakali is not their competition. Simple....he is not even in the team... Gerrit... We are looking at the u23 team and eagles post Russia. He was bought by arsenal after his performances at youth level. If that isn't special talent what is. Who bought ajagun after his own time as captain. I'm done with you here abeg.... Thank you

komekn:
Ovie Ejaria
Tega Onomah
Seyi Ojo
Sone Aluko

chaiiii...... Finally..... Phew..... It took a lot to get this out of you....

Ovie plays for England youth team.... Ruled out.
Same as tega...... And ojo..... All ruled out for now... They cannot be invited at this moment...they are not interested in us sef o.. And they even play for lower division teams o.

Nawa for you o bros. Small time u go tell us say their league rate pass Holland division 2 . We agree.... So them be special talent too....

Finally... We dr end up with aluko and ajagun..... So you and forgiveness nor de tire....

How is aluko competing with nwakali.... Is he a future prospect.... Aluko is competing with Mikel, ogu, and Joel or even Agu.... Currently he is not part of the team so how do you expect him to be in the world cup...... Besides what special thing has he done this season to warrant a call ahead of established team members.....

Do you now see that your argument is flawed. You criticism of nwakali has no basis cos simply there is no future prospect better and available right now... Gerrit

BTW nor de call yourself made in Warri cos you have no idea what it means.... Abeg.... We fit liv one or two for ur sclero.... Jus kponkpi.....

komekn:
Eterisan,

I have not responded to your latter question ❓

I find it discriminatory and birthed from the same place as racism and tribalism. That's why you have no answer.

I describe myself as born in the UK but made in Warri

I speak Igbo of course Isoko / Urhobo and a smattering of Yoruba. I do not consider myself any less Nigerian or more Nigerian than those born in my ancestral village.

The substance and underlying rhetoric of your question ❓ is negatively divisory.

Maybe if you rephrased the question with a more positive inclusive approach I will respond.

bros nor de confuse me with English... I go school....

Nor de give me your history, I don't need it.

How is asking you to give me a name of any Nigerian special talent midfielder better than nwakali, who deserves a call up right now racism or tribalism.... Smh......

Go sedan where fit you bros...you nor get answer even if you think from now till next year.

You can fool some people all the time, everybody some of the time but not all the people all the time.....

komekn:
Sorry in football you do not groom players it's not financial services.

Players are selected on current continous consistent performances. Those units of measurement are objective not subjective and are the justification for selection, anything else is simply favoritism.

oga give me a name from your pot of objective gold who deserves to be eased into the national team set up better than nwakali. Who is a top performer in whatever division. Special talent o. Nigerian o. Home or innit.

forgiveness:
You asked for players better than Nwakali home and abroad that can be added to the team at the moment and I gave you Ajagun(home) and Eze(abroad) but this is all you could come up with. Smh


However, if I have Ajagun in mind, what is bad about that?


How many of those players in current team is younger than Ajagun that are for the future out of the 26 players in the camp?

Why don't we carry Emmanuel Amuneke under 17 winning team to the world Cup because they for the future?

Do you think the world cup is for under age players?

Let us kuku ma replace Simy with Osimhen because he's for the future, right?

As you can see more than 10 - 12 of his age mates which is half of of the team are currently in the National team. Then, I don't think age is the problem.

Can you now give me another sensible and reasonable explaination for your disaproval of Ajagun?

Note : I do not intend to go back and forth with you...

Firstly nwakali is not going to the world Cup...

Secondly players of ajagun's age in camp right now are better than him. Mikel, ogu, onazi, Joel....

Thirdly the younger players in camp for the future are better than ajagun.... Ndidi and Iwobi.....even Agu. Please narrow this discussion to midfielders.

Lastly I do not disapprove of ajagun I am only letting you know that you and komekn basis of disapproving nwakali is flawed in all ramifications because anyone who is not blind can see that he is been groomed. Besides he has had jus one call up. His brother two.

Don't turn this into an ajagun argument.

I see komekn avoiding my question... Yes he should hide in shame..... Mentioning all sort of special players who are not Nigerians. You feel say na to speak plenty grammer be the thing. If komekn can give just a name. I will put my ass up for display in shame.... Or I will come kiss his feet any time he comes to Warri....

I challenge you komekn give me a name or forever remain shut.

forgiveness:
Really! Mr smarty! Lmao!

A living dog is better than a dead Lion.

Special talent that was demoted to a second after he couldn't demostrate his special talent in Eredivise. I see.

Oga, Abdul Ajagun and Ebere Eze are likened to the living dogs doing well in their clubs at the moment.

We are talking about a living dog at the moment.

Hope Nwakali shows himself in a decent league but for now he is just a prospect. Thanks

You are so predictable, everyone here knows you had ajagun in mind when criticizing nwakali.... Can't you change for once... That ebere you added there is just so that you will not be tagged tribal.... BTW does ebere deserve it more than nwakali..... Or is your washed up ajagun [old man] a special talent..... I tire for you....

Nwakali is the future not your ajagun deal with it.
Just like ndidi and nacho, nwakali is an NFF project. They distinguished themselves at youth level. They are our own, our products and have to be groomed. Ebere Eze is on NFF radar but currently doesn't deserve it more. It's not like he is a Nigerian yet in the eyes of FIFA.

For Ajagun, well sorry is your name. We have better midfielders of his age in the NT set up currently so right now he has no chance. This is the reality. Again Nwakali is the future.. just as TheGoodJoe mentioned chalobah training with the English team.... I rest my case for now

TheGoodJoe:

They hid their faces.

We all know why....but I don't want to answer the question for them... Instead of them to allow me they my ghost mode they enjoy comments peacefully them they raise my BP with their nonsense comments .... As if we are all stupid here....

I don't even know why but I am so pissed off right now.

Kog45:
thegoodjoe to buttress your point Nathanel Challobah is in England camp training with the main team ahead of Nigeria match though not going to WC.

elder I have asked the question since morning and forgiveness and komekn cannot answer me. At least their silence proves that they have no point in criticizing nwakali's call up for the athletico game or 35 man list.. Wherever they saw such list.

I will still ask for the third time.... Now it is an open question for everyone .... Is there any special talent midfielder currently of Naija decent both home and abroad that deserves it more than nwakali to be called to the national team just to train... Post Russia...... I really want to learn.... I am waiting..

Forgiveness and komekn should hide their face in shame... I cannot wait for dust to settle.

In komekn's voice..... Nwakali plays in Holland division 2...nwakali should not ride on youth past glory.... Nwakali is not a top performer in division 2....nwakali is not special talent but special connections......

Bros I go disgrace you today.... I d'or vex..... Oya name one Naija midfielder na wey be special talent, top performer, not in division 2 of any league and has past glory in youth competition for any country..... That deserves it more than nwakali.... Bros you must answer today o... Or just keep quiet forever on this nwakali issue... Cos I will be on your case.... Thank you

forgiveness:
How can you know when you have not seen others play?

Make we rest matter for now. After dust don settle ask me latter and I will give names of better players. Thanks

egbon why wait for dust to settle. Did you wait before you and komekn stunk up this place with your negative prejudice about nwakali. Simple question you both can't answer. It is like you both think you are smarter than everyone here.

I don't want to reveal private stuff about myself, but I can tell you that I am one of the best in what I do and as a trained teacher I definitely know how to structure questions and target a specific point.

If you and bros komekn cannot give us just a name of one Nigerian player, foreign born or Naija born who is a special talent midfielder who deserves to be called up at this moment to just train with the national team.... Then I am sorry to say you should keep quiet [no shut the phuck up]. Never ever you criticise nwakali's call up again since you have nothing better to present. Good luck to you.

safarigirl:
Nigerian origin= players like Lookman and Solanke who may have Nigerian parent(s), but are not recognised Nigerians ie, FIFA does not recognise them as Nigerians by allegiance

Nigerian= Recognised by FIFA as Nigerian players

Thank you my sister. God bless you excellently. It is like you can read my mind. You understood exactly what I meant.

Infact I d'or epp bros komekn, as na my Warri bros. Mek him even mention any of him English /Nigerian players wey better pass nwakali for midfield to come train with the team.

I dey wait bros komekn.

komekn:
You have created a pre-requisite that I need to clarity on.

What do you mean by Nigerian origin and Nigerian what is the difference

bros answer the question. You be English man so you understand. I don't need an innit boy who cannot be called to the national team or who is not interested in playing for us.

Can you now see your criticism of nwakali is unfounded.

Oya let me make it easy for you. Mention any players be it Nigerian or Nigerian origin player, who is a special talent midfielder that deserves [ it more than nwakali] to come train with the national team.

komekn:
Over the years I have watched a lot of players and over time the cream rises to the top.

WHAT THEREFORE MAKES Nwakali a so-called special talent. He has played in the Eredivisie for a season without recognition. He has effectively been demoted to the second tier of Dutch football and even at this lowly level he is not an outstanding player.

He is not among to top 100 teenage footballers despite that misleading outdated local Spanish media outlet somebody used to misrepresent his quality here.

The only thing he has that is special is SPECAIL CONSIDERATION given to him by the powers that be to come into the SE set up. He was allowed to by pass fair-play, required quality and outstanding ability.

My view let there be an open level playing field free from favouritism based on clear defined objective performance parameters. Not subjective personal judgement.

Please I beg you in the name of whatever God you serve, mention one special talent young midfielder who is a Nigerian [I don't mean Nigerian origin] and deserves to be called up at this moment to just train with the national team.

Just one. I want to be educated.

Let's view this in retrospect. Post Oliseh guys like, idowu, Aina, ogu, Joel, Iheanacho, iwobi, awaziem, ndidi ebuehi were either not in the team or just joined. Phucking hell [sorry for my language] ighalo just came back against Cameroon.

What else do we expect from Rohr. Every player that was clamoured for here was invited, including Kayode. So we're is all this criticism coming from.

Maybe we don't know but this team was built during the qualifiers and amazingly we qualified for the world cup. Where were you when we missed WC and nations cup back to back. So forgiveness take a chill pill and enjoy the moment. Cos if you won't the rest of us will.... Have a good day

safarigirl:
since you are intruding on my rights, I am in a very good position to tell you where exactly to throw your childish tantrums.

If you had the ability to 'get' anything, you would have gotten the idea that you are no more than a troll on this thread whose opinion is seen as trash to mentally well people. You would have 'gotten' the idea that you are too OLD to be behaving like a child.

For all we know, you're SENILE and that's why you can't GET anything.

So, happy trolling.

Easy babe..... Easy. He will get it this time. As chairman association of ghost readers, I humbly submit that we are fed up with forgiveness..... Kayode this, ajagun that, nwakali those..... People wey nor even they the list presently.

As a follower of Naija football for as long as I can remember, of all WC lists I have ever seen, this list is the least controversial and very fair . Whoever criticizes this our WC list needs a lobotomy [whatever that means] *in TheSuperNerd's voice.

mank1234:
Years down the line this event will be remembered less significantly while the Real Madrid team coached by Zidane will be referred to in history as the greatest team ever, even though we know that they are not.

You say. Common man check the statistics.

Salah started the tussle. Ramos was dirty but he just did his job. Get well soon Salah.

13 reasons why Real Madrid are European champions
27/05/2018 | 13:21 CEST En Español Rubén Jiménez


1: The referees
The whole world knows. Italian referees, English, Serbian, Turkish and wherever they are from, there is a conspiracy to make Los Blancos win successive Champions League titles because that's the best thing which can happen for UEFA
2: The draws
The secret is hot balls, those which have paired the club with Paris Saint-Germain, Juventus and Bayern Munich. It's all remotely controlled.
3: Zidane is lucky
He's so lucky that he decides that Bale is better as a substitute and he comes on and scores two goals, one of them a bicycle kick. The changes of Lucas Vazquez and Marco Asensio were beneficial and starting Karim Benzema and Isco made the team able to retain possession. It was all so lucky.
4: Their opponents are old
Kylian Mbappe, Mohamed Salah and Neymar are all on the downward curves of their careers, their age shows they are clearly declining.
5: Their fans don't encourage them
The chant of 'We're not going to love you' was heard in Kiev and it was a sign of respect to the fans of Liverpool, but it gave Real Madrid encouragement.
6: It doesn't matter that Antonio Pintus doesn't know how to coach players
Los Blancos reached the final with every single player fit and available, there were no injury concerns and everyone had the chance to start the match. This all came after Sergio Ramos said the players were all like Miura, but obviously Pintus has no idea what he's doing.
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7: Their opponents were injured
Neymar was hurt and couldn't play against Real Madrid, whilst Salah was left injured after a collision with Ramos on the pitch in Kiev. You simply can't compete in those circumstances.
8: They somehow escaped Mbappe, Lewandowski and Salah
In every single match it was clear that the opposition were going to take full advantage of Real Madrid's defensive fragility. It was said that playing against Dijon and FC Koln is the same as the European champions.
9: It didn't matter that Marcelo doesn't know how to defend
Liverpool were going to destroy him in the final.
10: Even though Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't score in the big matches
The Portuguese forward failed to score in the semi-final or final, his last goal in the tournament came against Juventus.
11: Despite the fact Bale and Benzema have no value
The two goalscorers in the final were the two most criticised players throughout the season.
12: Because opposing goalkeepers hand them victories
Sven Ulreich and Loris Karius must be involved in a shared WhatsApp group with UEFA referees, they conspired so that Los Blancos would emerge victorious.
13: Because being from Madrid is easy
This something everybody knows, Real Madrid simply don't have feelings or emotions, those are things for others. Opinion • Zidane continues to make coaching history

Source : http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/opinion/2018/05/27/5b0a88cee2704ec14f8b45c6.html

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tbaba1234:
Junior Ajayi does not offer what Simon offers in terms of pace and directness. If i am to pick a replacement, i will choose Kayode since he can play from the wings.

But i do not think, a replacement is required.

I am not very comfortable with just three wingers in the team. It will make the team very predictable. If Simon is really injured, then as things stand we will have just three wing forwards bar Iheanacho who has played there for the team. I really do not see a new name coming into this team now. I concur with you Boss

BascoVanVeli:
Unnecessary fouls, taking out of key players, goading our players into red cards that type of stuff I guess.

VAR will be used at the world cup. No worries.

AIG07:
I'm so much disappointed as you are. I supported Liverpool through out the match.

It is a bitter and very sad moment seeing your best player been injured intentionally. But you need to look at the larger picture. Teams do a lot of things that might not be fair to the opponent to edge their opponents. This is not the first time it will happen and it won't be the last.
Italy took out Henry and Zidane in 2006 before they could win the WORLD CUP. France took out Onazi so as to get edge over us. Neymar, and so on.

We have seen so many cases where players are brought on to draw foul off their opponents, diving etc. These things might be wrong but they are part of the BIGGER PLAN

Salah started the holding. No matter how angry one is about this, it was just an accident. Both players grappling and Salah came off worse. Das all

No one has made mention of Musa Mohammed. IMO he did well in the early stages of the game but subsequently faded. Can't see how he will claim the rb spot in the future.

neezar:
U see how ur confusing ur self

Even the list rohr brought out won't beat Iceland talk less of the midfield maestros of Croatia and the attacking powers of Argentina

you are obviously trolling. Please no one should take this guy seriously. He is either a Ghanaian or not a fan. I can't figure out this amount of negativity. Please stop neezar. Stop already.

From the way you talk and write, you and I have same personality especially when it comes to relationships. So from my own personal experience let me say
1. She's a very beautiful lady that took you time to win over
2. You probably made her leave a bigger, better bobo
3. She's very domineering in the relationship...... Like she sets the rules
4. You trying to hang on to her at all cost cos you love her so much
5. She has loads of guys on her case and she doesn't know if to be patient with you or not.

My brother, please come closer... Let's be fair here na tree wey person fit climb naim he go boast say he go pluck the fruit. Bros you never set, why you carry marriage talk they tie her down. Untop say una nor de same town.

My guy let things happen naturally, free her abeg or give her assurance. If she wants to take her chances outside let her be. Stop fighting this fight, cos what you will get is a muddled relationship filled with lies and deceit. You're so worried about the future that you forget to live in the present and be happy.

Hmmmm