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CelebritiesRe: Nigerians Begging Ishowspeed For Money In Lagos (Video) by Evilthoughts: 4:58pm On Jan 22
I made a thread abouts this embarrassing habit by some Nigerians. Always begging foreigners and how it's costing us our tourism and global respect especially the men angry.

https://www.nairaland.com/8603936/why-nigeria-doesnt-attract-tourists

Look at how the Kenyans, Ghananians, South Africans etc respected themselves when he visited them ,it come our turn and we embarass ourselves infront of the world and our enemies are having fun on the internet mocking us as hungry giants . embarassed
TravelRe: Why Nigeria Doesn't Attract Tourists And Foreigners by Evilthoughts(op): 3:56pm On Jan 22
IronGalaxy:
The sooner we realize these people are mental the better for us guys, nowadays im teaching myself to ignore them..
Go and hustle Thabo ,no one cares what you people think. Lazy boy .
TravelRe: Why Nigeria Doesn't Attract Tourists And Foreigners by Evilthoughts(op): 3:55pm On Jan 22
JaceBlaze:
Yah it's just too comical at this point.
What is comical is your obsession with Nigerians. You are embarrassing yourselves
TravelWhy Nigeria Doesn't Attract Tourists And Foreigners by Evilthoughts(op): 6:45am On Jan 22
If you noticed the recent videos of ishowspeed around Africa you would be embarrassed by how our people acted. Nigerians were begging and expecting handouts which sends bad signals to any visitor. I have visited Kenya and they don't beg foreigners, foreigners might give them something out of the goodness of their hearts but they don't harass them.

I have lived in South Africa for years and you will never see them begging tourists or foreigners, even the poor ones act very proud when they see you are not one of them. Why do we always want to project ourselves in bad light infront of strangers even though we are the better Africans with more pride,global respect and hustling spirit. This is why we are even getting disrespected by small small African countries that should be begging to clean our houses for free .
Let us stop the beggy beggy culture, it makes us look weak to outsiders. You can't be begging strangers in your own home. Look at what those weak South African footballers did when they were in Nigeria,giving out food from moving bus windows to humiliate us. Do you think they would take that if the Eagles did same to them? They would stone our players and accuse them of demeaning them. We need to change this behavior before it's too late .

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 7:32pm On Dec 20, 2025
TV01:
In as much as I can claim Nigerian, I will readily admit that Nigerians "typically", range from fraudsters to grifters. And few - even the most eminently qualified - see beyond serving themselves. The desire is mostly for their individual self-aggrandisement. And, if that is at the expense of others, then so be it. That is why "the hustle" is evident at all levels and in all strata. It's not just "the leaders". If anything they merely epitomise it.

A true sense of the collective, of commonwealth, is almost totally absent. Whether that is predicated on the tribalism that bedevils them, the sectarianism that primes much of their responses, or these in combination with other ills, I'll refrain from speculating for now.

Any notion of pan-Africanism (and pan-blackness, if that's a thing and means essentially the same?) is dead in the water. It's not a pipe or a dream. If it was a political notion, it would mean eternal minor-party opposition. With only the merest consideration and grasp of realities on the ground, can anyone really believe that pan-Africanism is achievable?

Does it include Arabs? Hope not, they simply cannot ever see themselves as equal with black people - their racism, even the merely customary kind - is off the charts.

Okay, just black people. The ethnic Somali are pretty close to being perfectly homogenous, but are so clannish, they seem to have been at war forever. And any government has to be along clan lines, not principles, not policy. They even "clanned" themselves out of the recent Minnesota mayoral election. No to mention they look down - to the point of despising - on the Bantu Somali who occupy the same space, speak the same language and have the same culture.

Back to Nigeria. The ethnic Fula are keen to eradicate or enslave every other tribe in pursuit of their ethno-religious-supremacist dream. A vast swathe of Nigerians with the wherewithal would rather be in freezing Siberia, the most racist and far-right Western nation or even China, where you can be treated like vermin.

Like islam is best for muslims outside islamic majority\dominated countries, pan-africanism would probably work best elsewhere. Or, in a very lurid imagination, that realises the wretchedness of its position but seeks some relief in an unattainable fantasy. This literally allows you to boast, be judgemental and even supremacist in your wretchedness, but nothing will ever change.

However, I have one small quibble with the SA specific rebuttal to pan-africanism. Pray tell, what antecedents do the native south-Africans have the suggests they would have built modern day liberal democratic infrastructure before the advent of Europeans? How are the Bantus in the south in any way different from the Cushites on the horn, or those in the West or Central regions.

What, in the inherent make-up of black SA before the advent of white SA suggest they could natively give rise to those institutions, or the governance and the processes required? Something none of the other African tribes\nations have been able to achieve - individually or collectively.

Is there anything you can point to, if only nascent or embryonic, prior to the arrival of white SA, that suggests these structures would have arisen without white SA. Or alternatively, anything within the antecedents of the white SA that suggests wherever they rocked up, those infrastructures would not have followed - like night follows day - with or without black SA?

You whole-chestedly claim "joint enterprise" in what are clearly the artefacts of a colonialist\apartheid regime. Albeit, a regime with the make-up to build those systems. To be clear, I do not see anything that suggests the SA of recent decades was ever a partnership in the building. I stand to be corrected - if you can evidence otherwise.

Having said that you get 2 shots. You see Nigeria (and I'd guess other African countries post-colonialism), also had these same artefacts in place. From functioning railways stations (I've seen tickets) to working bureaucracies and administrative frameworks. But as inherency took a hold - nepotism, tribalism, sectarianism, clannishness, mediocrity, malfeasance and wholesale corruption - the frameworks, the structures and the governance were all degraded. And now, we are where we are.

Two shots I said, because all that has to be done to obviate the ask to evidence the joint-enterprise (and shut me up grin), and gainsay all the vitriol around black SA being xenophobic, lazy, servile etc., is too maintain those artefacts - at the least.

In a simplistic way, it can be seen as SA simply coming to the end of colonialism\apartheid later, so having the artefacts for that much longer.
I'll be honest, based on what has gone before and currently persists with SA' near neighbours, I wouldn't stake my hard-earned cash on it. But I sincerely wish you all the best.


TV
Tell them bros. These black South Africans are the most delusional people on this continent.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 7:27pm On Dec 20, 2025
IronGalaxy:
Ok
Why are Zulus so lazy, with all the money in your league, you people couldn't fight a stylist to dress you up like the Eagles. Turning up looking like European wannabes in an African tournament lipsrsealed
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 7:02pm On Dec 20, 2025
IronGalaxy:
Exactly. Notice how they make noise and tell anyone who dgaf about how they're the "Giants of Africa" unprovoked..? They have small man syndrome and they disguise it with this excessive fake bravado.. I see through it
Everyone knows Nigeria is the Giant of Africa.whatever happens anywhere else on the continent somehow started here first, would work better if we handled it, and will eventually need our opinion to be complete. Our economy carries Africa on its back, our politics sets the tone whether people admit it or not, and on the global stage, nothing involving Africa is truly serious until Nigeria has spoken. Continue wailing Zulu boy while we continue dominating the continent and the globe. That's our destiny and right because we are far more superior than you and your ancestors .You and your irritating girlfriend must eat a humbe pie and accept reality .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 6:52pm On Dec 20, 2025
KingCold:
ok. What else?
Stop begging your government for free money,go out and hustle like a man. You're embarrassing Africa with all this your weakling ways and excuses. You are not white people, stop pretending and stay real . Cowardice grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 6:46pm On Dec 20, 2025
Lionessza6:
Calling analysis ‘fear’ is what people do when they’ve never had anything worth protecting. Thinking through structures isn’t cowardice...it’s what you do when collapse would actually kill your future instead of just reshuffling your hustle. You survive chaos because you’ve normalized loss; we resist it because the cost is real.

You aren’t ‘the structure.’ You operate in the cracks of other people’s structures. Improvisation in disorder isn’t power...it’s dependency with good PR grin. If you were the structure, Nigeria wouldn’t export people faster than it exports value. You move because the ground beneath you never stabilizes.

Adjusting quickly in collapse isn’t dominance; it’s adaptation to permanent failure. Dominance is owning systems that don’t require constant escape plans. That’s why your talent thrives abroad and bleeds at home....because chaos is only survivable when someone else’s order absorbs the shock.

Calling decades of collapse ‘resilience’ is Stockholm syndrome grin. Standing still while your institutions rot isn’t strength...it’s inertia. We don’t romanticize suffering as identity. We measure outcomes. And by that metric, surviving dysfunction isn’t victory...it’s unpaid debt.

You say we ‘worship institutions’ because you’ve never experienced what happens when they disappear. Institutions aren’t comfort...they’re compounding advantage. They’re why some societies fall and recover, while others fall and scatter. You call it softness because you’ve had to make peace with instability.

You claim you don’t need fallback options because you ‘don’t fall,’ yet Nigerians build their lives around exit strategies🙆‍♀️. Your economy only ‘starts moving’ when you plug into systems someone else already stabilized. Movement without ownership is motion, not power.

Pan-Africanism doesn’t scare us...it insults our intelligence🗑. Burning down the strongest structure available to prove ideological purity is easy when you have nothing left to lose. We do. Symbolic destruction is affordable only to those already living at the bottom.

Being everywhere isn’t global power; it’s dispersion. Influence without anchor is noise. You scatter because your home system can’t hold you. We anchor because collapse would trap us, not free us.

You mock writing because planning exposes the limits of chaos culture. Real movers don’t just run....they secure supply lines, institutions, and recovery paths. You move fast because standing still would force you to confront what never got built.😅😅

You confuse survival in disorder with mastery of reality. We don’t have that luxury. When your system fails, you relocate. When ours fails, we fall with it. That’s not fear...that’s structural awareness. You gamble with chaos because you can flee it. We defend systems because we can’t.
😂😂 Madam, please calm down.

All this long grammar just to say “I’m scared to lose comfort.”
Simple English: you like rules because without them you don’t know what to do.

You keep shouting “institutions, institutions” like it’s holy water. If light goes off small, it’s panic all over your country . If system shakes, your violent men and women are disturbing the streets and calm with cries that the country is destroyed . Weak and fragile beings. We wake up, adjust, and move on. No tears.

You say we export people like it’s an insult. Madam, people are the asset. Nigerians are the engine. Drop us anywhere, economy starts breathing. Even your strong system enjoys Nigerian sweat, but let’s ignore that 😅.

You talk about chaos like it’s a curse. We eat chaos for breakfast. We don’t wait for perfect road; we create path with our legs. That’s why we survive anywhere.

This “anchor” talk is funny 😂. Anchor is for people afraid to move. We don’t tie ourselves to one place because the whole world is open. That’s freedom, not running.

Pan-Africanism annoys you because you’re comfortable with government free money. When you’re comfy and lazy, unity feels dangerous. When you're a survivor, speed becomes intelligence.

You write long essays because you need permission before action. Nigerians act first, explain later sometimes never . Results don’t need footnotes.You protect systems.
We dominate environments.You stay.We move.You analyze.We adapt.

Relax and enjoy the show 😁😁
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 6:23pm On Dec 20, 2025
JaceBlaze:
He started his sentence by saying "you people think too much" ,now that right there just gives full scope of why things are falling apart lipsrsealed
You think too much nonsense. And we continue dominating not thinking about system collapse and that nonsense. We are flexible and mobile,not stagnant and enslaved.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 8:16am On Dec 20, 2025
KingCold:
ok. What else?
Go and buy some confidence Zulu boy,the white man system has turned you into a low budget white boy who can't do anything without government grin. That's why we dominate you and you beg your police for help grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 6:52am On Dec 20, 2025
Lionessza6:
When I said “Black South Africans are an extension of a weaker Africa, while whites are an extension of Europe,” i was not talking about identity, culture, or worth. I'm talking about structural backing in the global system.

1. “Extension” does not mean loyalty or DNA
It means where power, capital, protection, and recovery capacity come from when things go wrong.

In the modern world, groups are not equal because of pride or history; they are equal because of networks and fallback options.

2. Whites in South Africa are structurally linked to Europe regardless of citizenship.

*They have deep capital ties to Europe and North America
*Easier access to investment, credit, skills markets, and migration pathways
*Cultural, legal, and institutional familiarity with powerful economies

If South Africa collapses, they can exit into strong systems.This does not mean they are “foreign agents.”It means they have a continental safety net.

3. Black South Africans are structurally linked to Africa.Again, regardless of patriotism:

*Africa as a continent is weaker economically and politically in the global hierarchy
*Limited capital markets, weak currencies, fragile institutions
*Fewer global fallback options
*When things collapse, there is nowhere powerful to retreat to

If South Africa fails, Black South Africans fall with it.

4. Why this matters for policy and protest
Because of this imbalance:

Reckless disruption hurts Black citizens first.Economic collapse is not an abstract risk....it is existential.

Whites can wait, hedge, exit, or re-anchor elsewhere.Blacks must protect and reform the system they are trapped in.This is why Black South Africans are often institutionalists rather than romantic radicals.

5. Why Pan-African pressure often rings hollow.Calls to “burn it down” in the name of African pride ignore this asymmetry.

Pan-Africanists who already live in weaker states can afford symbolic destruction because the baseline is already low.South Africans cannot.

6. Black American comparison
Black Americans face a similar reality:

*Their fate is tied to the U.S. system
*They do not have a powerful “Black nation” to retreat into

So they fight for reform, rights, and inclusion...not collapse

7. The uncomfortable truth is that this isn’t cowardice.It is strategic realism.

When you are an extension of a weaker system, you must defend and improve the strongest structure you have, not destroy it to prove ideological purity.

Not self-hate.Not white worship.
Structural awareness!
😁😁you people think too much.

All this grammar just to say you’re scared. Nigerians don’t analyze structures .We ARE the structure. Before systems wake up, Nigerians have already adjusted, dominated, and moved on. That’s why the whole world knows us.

Talking about “collapse” like it’s a threat. Nigeria has been collapsing since independence and we’re still standing. That’s called resilience. You wouldn’t survive one week without comfort and institutions that’s why you worship them.

We don’t need fallback options because we don’t fall. Wherever Nigerians land, economy starts moving. That’s facts. We don’t wait for permission, policies, or perfect conditions. We move.

Pan-Africanism makes you uncomfortable because it reminds you that Africans can operate without approval. You prefer safety over greatness.

Nigeria is global by default. Our people are everywhere, influencing everything, loud or quiet. Some people are local and defensive, some are continental by nature. It’s not your fault.

Keep writing essays. Movers don’t type — they move😅.Weak cry baby. 🤡
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 6:14am On Dec 20, 2025
KingCold:
LoL..of course, insults, nothing else.. 0 intellectualism.. Lionessza made miced-meat out of you.. You offer nothing . I can't take you seriously..
She is the one who admitted that your white masters will always lord over you because you are weak grin. Go and cry somewhere dudula agent
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 7:06pm On Dec 18, 2025
KingCold:
You're deluded
Timid man, have you turned what today or you are still black and lazy?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 7:04pm On Dec 18, 2025
budaatum:
Why is that you mention the hard working Nigerians in UK like my sister and not those in Nigeria?

Do Nigerians become unlazy when they arrive in UK like my sister found out, or is the work culture just different and that's why even you recognise Nigerians work hard in UK?

One more question. A trick one if you may.

How do Nigerians dominate in Nigeria?
You people like talking too much drama. Hard work is not about systems, it’s about blood and spirit. Nigerians work hard everywhere, even in Nigeria. The fact that Nigeria is not working is because of colonialism, corruption imposed from outside, and bad leaders not the people.

In the UK, Nigerians work hard because they are Nigerians, not because of the system. The system only benefits from Nigeria energy and sweat

Also, Nigeria dominates Africa culturally,politically, economically , music, movies, population, confidence. That is dominance. You don’t need working trains or electricity to dominate. Hard work is suffering and resilience, not paperwork and having your time managed like a slave . We are free man in Nigeria and we control our time and money not paying taxes or having a government that enslave us like what I see here with these timid and white want to be frauds .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 12:49pm On Dec 18, 2025
KingCold:
Lol, You know, once you realise what drives these nonsensical comments. It's really difficult to take you people, seriously.. But go on,, homour me, I'm listening.. grin grin grin
Continue laughing Zulu boy as we continue progressing and leading the continent. You know good and well that when Nigeria sneezes the whole Africa catches a cold. We are the face and natural leaders of the continent not fake blacks with white masters who hate anything black succeful
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 12:38pm On Dec 18, 2025
KingCold:
South Africa "envious" of Nigeria? grin grin okay..
You know the truth and why we intimidate you
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 12:27pm On Dec 18, 2025
KingCold:
. Look, which lie you choose to tell yourself to lull you into a sense of comfort for your country's failures, it's ultimately your business. Leave me out of it
South Africa us not a first world country like you and your sister lie about it. She is even comparing it to the UK,USA etc ....foolish people grin. South Africa is a violent, drug and unequal country filled with lazy men who are envious of other capable African men because they know we will take over their country and women from them to make it better. Kiss the truth Zulu boy
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 12:17pm On Dec 18, 2025
KingCold:
LOL.. the bolded is a jokke at this point.. a tired one for that matter
Everyone in the world knows its true but nyaope boys keep living in foolishness
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 12:16pm On Dec 18, 2025
Stolen:
This is your best piece yet.
You are not serious. You mean the excuses ,lies an un-African tone 🙄. You must lack self esteem if you thought that diarrhea is something to take serous. But this is the problem when people don't travel past their states,if you did you'd know that black South Africans are the worst type of people to encounter. People who see no shame in rejecting what freed them . The same Africa unity and Pan Africanism that their fathers promoted when they were in chains . An embarrassing people to call Africans. They think their infrastructure and system makes them less black than other Africans. They think money makes them European or first world country .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 12:10pm On Dec 18, 2025
budaatum:
Funny this.

My sister, an accountant with like 20 years work experience in Nigeria, recently completed her masters in UK and got a job.

"Damn, they make you work for every penny here", she told me.

She'd arrive at work in Lagos at 7am, she said, because leaving for 8am when her office opened meant she wouldn't get there by ten. She'd do about an hours work, and by noon its break time, during which she'd go shopping at market and arrive back by 2 and potter around till 5 and be done and home by 7. Whereas, in UK she gets a 45 minutes break, and despite working from home three days, its work every single minute.

"How can we expect to develop as a nation working like we do back home when the competition here is draining every minute for the money they pay", she laments, glad she finally came over saying she's learnt more about work in a year in UK than she did in 20 years in Nigeria.

Hard working my toe, says I, but most wouldn't know of it unless they travel out of Nigeria.
Stop comparing your lazy sister to the rest of us. There is nowhere on this earth Nigerians haven't dominated because we can thrive under any situation. Your sister is lazy. What about the Nigerian doctors, care workers ,nurses and professionals in the same UK? 🗑
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 12:03pm On Dec 18, 2025
Lionessza6:
Insecurity isn’t enforcing borders. That’s called running a country.

South Africans aren’t ‘threatened’ by hard work....we built institutions, industries, and a constitutional state under conditions you clearly don’t understand. What we reject is unmanaged mass migration from poorer states that adds labour supply without adding equivalent demand, overwhelms public services, and shifts the costs of other governments’ failures onto our working class.

Apartheid didn’t make us weak.....it made us very clear about what happens when people are denied ownership, accountability, and control over their own country. That’s exactly why we won’t repeat the mistake by outsourcing responsibility for nation-building.

Hard work doesn’t cancel immigration law. Resilience doesn’t entitle anyone to another country’s housing, hospitals, or jobs. If Nigeria is so full of opportunity and resilience, build it there.....like every serious nation expects its citizens to do.

This isn’t envy. It’s economics, governance, and sovereignty. Adult countries understand that kiss
Yes, apartheid did make you weak. Why are you crying about everything from colonialism and African migration if you are not finished people.

You are insecure if you want to close off from competition from other more adventurous Africans who export professionals more educated than you to your country. Weak people.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 11:57am On Dec 18, 2025
IronGalaxy:
The myth that other Africans are more "hardworking" is self-flattery at best.. Look at your countries, nothing screams "hard work" ..
Stop hiding behind the white man work you lazy people. You have no single work in what South Africa is. The African Union should just shut you people up by returning apartheid or getting rid of you from African countries. You people are mentally colonized. You are not true Africans in any sense
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 9:53am On Dec 18, 2025
Lionessza6:
Please stop broadcasting your ignorance about a country you claim you're a citizen of.Protests mean very different things in different countries.

In Nigeria, they rarely lead to lasting change, so many see them as high-risk with little reward.

In South Africa, it’s different. Protests, even when loud or disruptive, often lead to talks, policy changes, or legal action. They’re not chaos....they’re part of how our democracy works.
Why? Strong institutions
Powerful labor unions
Active student movements
Civic organizations that hold power accountable.

A legal system that allows court challenges after protests.Protests keep leaders on their toes. When governance fails, we mobilize quickly and demand action. That’s why delivering results isn’t just good politics....it’s survival.

Our histories shape how we see activism. What some call desperation, we call political participation that gets results.Protest here isn’t a threat....it’s how we make the system work.

2. Firstly, let me clarify something: Boers do not own 70% of South Africa’s landmass; that figure refers specifically to commercial agricultural land. This is a colonial residue, much like our old infrastructure and economic framework. Such systems are not undone impulsively; they are phased out deliberately and responsibly to avoid economic collapse.

Most of South Africa’s land remains under traditional authorities and is untitled, which is precisely why land reform was not the most urgent priority compared to housing, services, and economic transformation.

The land question has returned to the spotlight largely because of high urban unemployment and the recognition of agriculture as a potential large-scale employer. In addition, South Africa now has access to diversified global markets, including Asia, rather than being overwhelmingly dependent on European markets that historically had little incentive to support meaningful land reform.

Reform must therefore be strategic, economically sound, and sovereign. We are under no obligation to rush complex structural changes or to accept pressure framed as ‘African solidarity’ when it risks economic self-harm. We are not Zimbos. We don't seek to be validated by envious Pan-Africanists as " non cowards " and "lovers of blackness ". We accept that we were thrown into the deep end and we have so many structural reforms inherited from apartheid that we have to overcome. But we will never self-harm to please the continent that secretly and openly coverts our position. Or self-harm to spite white SA when we will end up being the biggest losers at the end because we have no Europe* to pick us up when we are down like they have. Just like Black Americans we are on our own in cases like this because our own cousins occupy even weaker positions than we on the global hierarchy of political and economic relevance unlike the white people in our respective countries who have a much more successful continental home to back them. Both whites are an extension of that and we are an extention of the weak positions of Africa. But that is too deep for a feeble mind like yours to comprehend .
So your love for violence what you people call protest is what you claim is democracy and making things work grin. What have your violent protests achieved if not destroying the white man infrastructure in your country . What you people are good at is violence and entitlement to government because you can't do anything by yourselves like us. You destroyed Universities because you wanted free education unlike the foreigners who are happy to pay and develop South Africa.

You are now involving Africa in your weaknesses because I exposed that you black South Africans are weak and unambitious people . Other Africans own their land resources ,we are not slaves . We are not controlled by the white man in our countries because we chased them out of our countries. So now you admit that your white masters are from Europe they are no-longer South African now ?? I thought your white masters were blameless part of your DNA,what happened to that ?? So you want white people to keep your father's property for an economy? Wonders shall never end . You don't see why we promote Pan-Africanism to you people is for trade ? But you choose Europe foolishly and now want to complain.

You and your black American friends are the most confused black people Alive. One day you are proud blacks tomorrow you are white people in black skin. Embarrassing grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 2:28pm On Dec 16, 2025
Lionessza6:
1. Ah yes, mainstream Pan-Africanism .... where accountability is cancelled, but apartheid debt has an eternal subscription plan.

Apparently, South Africa is required to wake up every morning, apologise, pay, host, absorb, share, and shut up forever. Governance? Borders? Domestic priorities? No no, those are counter-revolutionary😅😅.

Apartheid debt is no longer a historical issue to be resolved; it’s a moral credit card some people keep swiping whenever their own states fail. Electricity collapsed? Apartheid debt. Currency in free fall? Apartheid debt. Elites looted the treasury? Clearly South Africa’s fault.

This isn’t solidarity... it’s a pull-him-down conference call. A gathering of professional victims who demand open wallets but reject open books. No audits, no reforms, no consequences ... just vibes, slogans, and guilt-tripping.

And notice the pattern: Pan-Africanism only gets loud when a Black country builds institutions, enforces borders, or refuses to be emotionally extorted. Suddenly it’s “betrayal,” “neoliberalism,” or “you forgot where you came from.”

South Africa’s real crime isn’t apartheid or history ....t’s refusing to fail quietly so others can feel better about collapsing loudly.

If this is Pan-Africanism, then it’s not a liberation ideology. It’s a guilt economy .. powered by apartheid debt, managed by unaccountable elites, and paid for by citizens who are told that self-respect is selfish.


2.This “Black unity” you preach is rental solidarity. You activate it when you need cover(anti-racism, access, legitimacy,and drop it the moment competition starts)

It’s always: “Protect me from white systems,” but also “Let me dominate Black space.”

You’re mad because Black Americans and Black South Africans built institutions, culture, and influence...that work better than what you built at home. That ruins the fantasy that numbers, hustle, and loudness equal leadership.

You confuse migration with superiority and visibility with ownership. Being everywhere isn’t the same as building something that lasts.

Hustle culture survives by finding hosts. Institutional cultures survive by building systems. That’s the difference....and guilt-tripping won’t close it. 😅

3. Look, the Boers are part of South Africa’s foundation.... our history, our DNA...something we cannot deny or escape ...thats why they are part of the first nationsof what later made the Republic that attracted you . Just like Black Americans( and the white settlers there ofcourse)in the U.S....born into the story, building institutions, shaping the country. You and your entitled crew? Are immigrants, guests trying to claim overnight what generations built. There’s a difference between being part of a nation and just showing up. The history of SA is incomplete without the Boere identity and story. Make peace with this clearly upsetting reality.
You talk as if I don't know the same South Africa. The same place where 10% of the population owns 70% of the land huh
The same South Africa that has protest everyday because people refuse to work and want government to do everything for huh.

The same South Africa where white immigrants are not harrased out of hospitals or elsewhere but blacks are targeted. Nonsense.

You talk as if black Americans are the only blacks who contribute to America. Do you know how many Nigerians contribute to the development of America, or exposure troubles you huh Nigerians mean more to America than those blacks who cannot take advantage of a good system.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 1:34pm On Dec 16, 2025
Lionessza6:
4.Whether our ancestors drew them or not, today those borders define our sovereignty. South Africa isn't an empty field ,it's a country with a lot to protect from people to infrastructure, from institutions to law and order. Enforcing borders isn’t about who built them; it’s about protecting what is within and what makes our lives easier.

So yes, borders weren’t built by Africans( even though we had symbolic borders of our own), but neither was freedom handed to us on a silver platter. And just like you wouldn’t let a guest eat your last plate of jollof without asking, we won’t let anyone stroll in without respecting the country that our identity is tied to
You black South Africans are simply insecure that other blacks will take over because they are more resilient and hardworking. It's envy and jealousy mixed with self-hate and delusions. Apartheid affected you badly 😢

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