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patrickmuf:
Does scoring against Liverpool mean he gave Van Dijk a torrid time?

Not scoring means Van Dirk is world class to his fans......

So yes

airmark:
With Costa out since, Morata's 7 goals in 20 matches is very impressive.

.... Morata didn't give Costa injury naa

airmark:
He is one of you guys, he is even an expert.

I notice dat Morata is Ath.madrid highest goal scorer in La liga with 7 goals....... He's really flopping

patrickmuf:
Good God, wetin person no go read for here...Tufiakwa!

I can proof this with Rashford goals and assist against Liverpool....

So no need for all dis

YungJo207:
Liverpool straight win bet your house rent on it.

Don't be homeless this new year .

kendrick93:
you really can't....
Anyone who still doubts the quality of Van djik isn't shouldn't be talking about football... seriously

Maybe comparing Players is not allowed again......

I compared UEFA player of the year / EPL player of the year which is Van dirk with people that didn't even near there..... U guys are shivering all over the place.........

As far football is still on..... Comparison can't stop.... World Best, Uefa best, league best, player of the century, etc is done by comparison ...

And I didn't say Van Dirk is not the best center back presently....

odizeey:
That's why education system cast. Uniben did not produce law first class for yearrrrsssssss. But make banking and finance first class go engage them in intellectual battle na.

This is football. Soon you guys will say Robertson and Arnold are waste at defence.

I'm not saying the guy is better than vidic but bro he is not overhyped. He is a leader. You can even see his influence in Netherlands. Free the man to enjoy his glory. Ejô

True

kendrick93:
What about how Eto'o disgraced him at the 09 final?

What abt how Martial turn him inside out, until he had injury @ Southampton....

If I wanna start calling Names of forwards dat disgraced VVD at Celtic, Southampton and Liverpool... I won't finish

odizeey:
That's just what makes me laugh. Comparing different defenders from different teams setup using the same metric.

If they wanna choose the best graduating student in University....... They compare student from different department, doing different courses, different set-up using the same metrics........

CAPdan21:
Lol at all this bias arguments...everyone knows modern football has moved on from early and mid 2000s where long balls and one vs one duels were d norm...now most big teams have a very high possession ratio so don't get attacked very much...compare Liverpool possession rates to man utd of that era you'll get the point..a more accurate pointer to their respective ability is yo show the successful rates for each of the metric you're comparing VVD to the other defenders..abi is it not the same vidic that torres always used to rub ground whenever he met him??..about is dere anoda one

So this Liverpool team had more possession than Barcelona of 2007-2009? Go and check Puyol Tackles and Interception.....
Man city of Last season had more possession than Liverpool of last season,... Man city style is Tiki-Taka (possession based football) Liverpool style is High pressing....

Is it not this same VVD that can't mark Rashford.....
Go and watch Vidic and Drogba classic battles...... If this VVD near Drogba, he will retire .....

U saw the statistics, others do the dirty work for him,.... The only Statistics he had was Clean Sheet and Goals conceedeed which is 70% because of the Goal keeper ( Alisson) ......

U guys will say VVD made Alisson great,... But this same VVD can't help Karius...

odizeey:
Thats why you are not an analyst. You apply stat out of context.

Ok.

Am open to learning...

Help me put the stat into context.
Thanks

airmark:
Eph12, elrony, lana1 where una see this expert?

Ur calling for BACK UP....

Pls come and help him ooo

airmark:
Morata : 13 goals in 32 matches.

Where do you want thunder to strike you?

*So 13 goals in 32 matches in a rigid team that defend against every opponent is bad?

*A team dat 95% of their matches end in 1-0

* A goal every 172 minutes is bad

Everyday u keep showing us, you DNT know anything about Football......
Maybe u shud try table tennis

airmark:
Who is the best CB right now?

Zouma

airmark:
I remember i was against Morata's signing because i knew he wasn't going ti be useful for Chelsea and Bis was against Bakayoko's move. Thats not even the point, the point is they havent been great since they failed under Conte.

Give me Morata's goal stats in ATM? Na your type dey prefer pap to pounded yam.

As u prefer to support Chelsea over Man utd it means u prefer Sugar cane to Pizza.

I gave u Wan Bissaka statistics that day, go and look for Morata statistics urself..... I can't spoon feed you, all the time

airmark:
You have comprehension problems.

After Morata failed under Conte, what became of him? Why was atletico madrid looking for Cavani to sign?

So in your eyes Bakayoko is hot for Monaco at present, right?

U have understanding issue...

Morata and Bakayoko were not useless bfor coming to Chelsea ......
Both were linked to top clubs in Europe.....

Their predicament started at Chelsea..... So read and understand...

Athletico madrid operate with 4-4-2 formation,.... Costa is currently injured and will leave at the end of the season, so they need another striker....Morata is doing well for Ath. Madrid presently

airmark:
Where did you keep your glasses when you read my post?

Morata wasn't useless in Juventus and Real Madrid.... And recently he's not useless in Athletico madrid..... ..
Juventus, Real Madrid and Athletico madrid are big clubs....

Bakayoko wasn't useless in Monaco,.... And Monaco is a big club in France....

.... Try to understand ur statement

STUPID YOUTH.....

He will use Bayelsa money to buy ×20 of what was destroyed......

Thanks for helping Dickson's stealing initiation

If dere is any Big team we shud be confident of beating, must be Chelsea....
Time to close the gap to 3 points...

Sheffield United are doing so well and dnt hv tough games agn.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]As much as a lot of football fans know that Dijk is overrated, you comparison is abstract and makes little sense

You have to find a common ground to compare both entities.

Maybe I should compare Raul's Gonzalez 2003 season to Aguero's 2019. How will it make sense? One's carrier has ended, meaning we have seen the best of him. The other is still actively serving. Haba

Wait for Dijk to end his career and compare, or use a current player this season to compare the stats. Even the Smelling own wey you post na old season. Put Smalling current season stats so e go make sense[/color]

I use their Best seasons to compare them,..... I didnt use Van Dirk Southampton and Celtic statistics........
he contested for world best with this same Statistics, so u can't even bring dis up,


I have told you, Van Dirk pattern,..... He stays behind while his defensive partner mark, bfor u will see him,.... Dats why is tackles and interception added together is not up to half of his Clearance...

Ibime:
He is simply playing the sweeper role. Nothing wrong with it. I also played this way when I played defence.

In every defence, you have a field nigga and a house nigga. The field nigga do the dirty work while the house nigga sweep up.

Don't let that confuse you into thinking the field nigga is the better defender. The house nigga is the one actually measuring distances, setting offside traps and controlling the field nigga position on the pitch. House nigga will only engage with the striker physically as a last resort, and 9 times out of 10 will pick the loose ball like candy after the field nigga duel with the striker finish.

I am also a Goal keeper.... So I know much abt defending also......
Ur point is 100% right....

Ferdinand and Van Dirk plays the same role...(NO 6).... And Ferdinand is better in dat position....... NO 6 are mainly good on the ball and can use Left leg sometimes

Vidic, Kompany and Terry are in charge of dirty works ...(NO 5)..... They are the main Men in defense....

Believe it or not, No 5 is the Engine room of the back 4

BlueAngel444:
Ah no na, they should have added
Not being dribbled past

Then we will know

He always stay behind while his Defensive partner mark the attacker first,.. b4 u will see him.......
That's why his tackles and interception are very low but high clearance .,.

nitrogen:
Haha, I don't rate Van Dirk. Of course he is very good, but he is not the best right now, and he is not close to the likes of Terry, Vidic, Ferdinand, Kompany etc.

When I was saying that it's only Trent-aleexander Arnold dat would enter Man utd 2007/2008 starting 11.. I know wat I was saying

EPL is now all about over hyping ... Some are saying dat Salah is better than Giggs

nitrogen:
Shebi dem no allow us rest on top the guy - Van Dirk. Go to Chelsea thread and post the stats, they will start coming up with some silly stories. Van Dirk no reach abeg!

I DNT have strength to argue,... If not I for post am for their thread....

Van dirk played all the 38 games without red card...... Vidic played 34 games with 2 red cards.... The rest also didn't play all the 38 games

ILLICITblood:
which site be this abeg?

Official Premier League site ......


Where you can expose those hiding Truth

God punish Over hyping

Van dirk VS Maguire

Maguire is trying

VIDIC best season 2008/2009 VS Van dirk best season 2018/2019

Ferdinard best season 2007/2008 VS Van dirk best season 2018/2019

...............HMMMMMMMMMM

Vidic is not Van dirk mate...... Vidic played 4 games less also had 2 red cards...........Van dirk played all 38 games

airmark:
Jokes apart, your coach is the main problem of your players not playing to their bests.

I won't be surprised if Lingard plays under Conte and improves. Most players that trained under him confirmed that his training sessions were always demanding. If you are useless under a coach like Conte, it's 99% sure, you will be useless in any big team, under any coach.

I thank God Conte is not your coach now.

What happen to Morata, Bakayoko etc under Conte.

Even Ferguson couldnt help some players ......................If u are not determined to improve, even God cant improve you

The man no get Mouth........