₦airaland Forum

Karlovich:
Hmm, Igboland again!

All these ofe Mmanu touts always obsessing over igbos. Leave us alone. Na wa o. Akwa Ibom people are our fraternal relatives but Akwa Ibom is not Igboland. Behave yourself

DuBLINGreenb:
You igbos read too much tribalism into everything.

Rivers people are not like that; hence Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi = bearing Rotimi despite no Yoruba ancestry.

Mujahid Asari, I can name many others, I know rivers people who aren’t even Muslims named Aisha, Amal, Abdul, Mohammed, Aliyu etc.

I also know rivers people with English and Portuguese last names like Horsefall, Long John, Georgewill, Duke etc.

Rivers people aren’t tribalistic like the rest of Nigeria. So they aren’t afraid that if I name my child English name, Hausa name, Igbo name or Yoruba name other rivers people will use the name to insult, ridicule or ostracize them and deny the child job or anything the child deserves simply because his name sounds like another tribes name.

I know Rivers people with Indian names: like Sunita infact there is a family from Rivers state called India west and India Yellow are they Indians?

Visit Port harcourt you will understand what I mean. Very free liberal people when it comes to tribe. Every tribe will feel at home in Rivers State.

Also if you check I am sure even you typing this have an English or Arabic name depending on your religion.
John Obi Mikel = 2 European names 1 Igbo name is he 1/3 Igbo and 2/3 European?

In USA there is a black disney actress named China, she has no Chinese ancestor, there is Paris Hilton her family isn’t from Paris, France, there is the athlete named London he wasn’t named because he has ancestors from there and some persons are named Milan they are not from Milan in Italy and Mariah Carey’s son is named Cairo he isn’t from Egypt
All these people are Americans.
Barrack Obama is not from the Barracks.
The actress Sharon Stone isn’t the descendant of an actual stone

It’s just unfortunate that you igbos saw this liberal group of people and decided to forcefully claim them as igbos not because you love us, but so that you as igbos can be more influential by increased population, more land, access to the ocean, better cities (like Port harcourt), more natural resources especially oil.
The people have told you we are not Igbo but you insist that if we aren’t Yoruba or Hausa then we must be Igbo. What sort of backward colonial mentality is that.

You don’t respect us, you don’t care about us, you don’t love us you only love the idea of a bigger more powerful Igbo. Imagine if every non Yoruba and Hausa/fulani group was Igbo how much bigger and influential the Igbo could become. That’s all you are thinking about.

You are what is known as akpa amu, scrotum in English.
Anytime una hear igbo people talking about igbo issues, una go run like mumu to give una very biased and anti-Igbo opinions. Why are you people obsessed with igbo people!?

There are fathers who disown their children and brothers who deny their brothers. It is not new or extraordinary that SOME Ikwerre people in a country like Nigeria claims not to be what they themselves are deeply aware they are. Ikwerre is an igbo word. They were part of the Eastern region, all linguists who have studied their dialect acknowledge it as igbo. No benin person can comprehend a word of Ikwerre. For instance, Herbert’s middle name is ONYEWUMBU, only igbos can tell you the meaning, no Benin person can ever know the meaning without the assistance of an igbo speaker. His late son’s name is CHIZETERE, again no non-Igbo can ever know the meaning without an Igbo speaker. What about his late wife? Her name is CHIZOBA, again you won’t know the meaning unless you are igbo. What of his hometown? It is Isiokpo, again no Nigerian other than igbos know the meaning.
His brother’s name is Emeka, again the whole word know this is an Igbo name. Yet you a non-Igbo is telling us that we must accept that the personal opinion of some Kai Kai drinking ikwerres are more valid than that of linguists and historians. The current leader of the most important igbo sociocultural organisation is an Ikwerre man, is that no enough prove that not all Ikwerre people deny their Igboness?! Next door in imo state there’s another igbo group called Nkwerre. You need to get lost and leave igbos alone! We are allowed to have our own internal issues without you crying about it.

[quote author=djmickymouse post=134085530][/quote]Igbos are already manufacturing cars in their village. Igbos are in all works of life in Nigeria and the world thriving.
The largest Christian population in Nigeria are Igbos.
Some igbos prefer their African traditional beliefs and they’re free to practice it.
Igbos are thriving as they’ve always done since time immemorial. Go to hell

TrackerSK:
Anambra and Ogun state are competing for ritual.But the later is very notorious for skull mining

Why equate being a native doctor to ritual? Have sense Mumu

The “king” in question is no other than the Eze Nri in present day Anambra state which is located EAST of Benin.

It must however be noted that in Igbo civilisation, the word Eze does not refer to a “king”, but rather a high priest. The Eze is the highest level in igbo priesthood. Under the Eze are minor priests called Ndi Nze who are empowered by the Eze to adjudicate land disputes in their respective clans. This is a legacy of the agrarian era in igbo history. During this agrarian era, the agricultural societies in these parts all the way to Benin were under the Eze’s sphere of influence. The Eze also provided a key service to all the agricultural communities, namely pest control medicines, adjudication of land disputes and “control” of weather patterns. He was also the custodian of the 4 deities around which the days of the weeks were counted namely Eke, Orie, Afor and Nkwo. In Edo these are called Eken, Orie, Okuo and Aho. Another igbo concept found in Benin is the culture of personal strength called Ikenga, again a legacy of the agrarian era of Igbo history. Agriculture was so successful in Igboland and lead to a boom in population growth also notable in other areas of Nigeria where agriculture was successful.
Benin with its population is no match to the igbo population even after the war and starving to death of millions of igbo children by Obafemi Awolowo and his Federal government masters from the North.
Now, for an Eze Nri to emerge certain rituals are performed including the funeral of the candidate revealed by an oracle. After this funeral, the candidate then becomes a living deity never to be seen by anybody other than his attendants. This is why he sits behind a curtain and only his feet are seen, so the Benin ambassador was right to refer to him as a god Oghene because he was considered to be a living deity (still the case). As a matter of fact, his influence was still noticeable long after Nri as a civilisation had declined due to the rise of the slave trading centres such as Benin, Efik, Ibibio etc. so much so that the British hoping to put an end to this reverence of the Eze, forced him to appear in public for the first time at the Awka native court. In being told that the man in their presence was the Eze Nri, the assembled public fled.
All igbo clans and igbo speaking peoples are united by this shared civilisation dating back to the 9th century.
A burial site was discovered at the old capital of this civilisation, a place known as Igbo-Nkwo (now called Igbo-Ukwu). The artefacts in this burial chamber included an intricately design roped pot dated to the 8th and 9th centuries; this bronze artefacts predates any bronze artefacts ever discovered in Yorubaland and Edo state.
Another evidence of the reach of the igbo civilisation is the presence of igboid speaking peoples everywhere in this region, from lower Benue to Edo state itself (Igbanke), to Cross Rivers state (ISOBO), to the eastern parts of the Niger Delta (Ikwerre, Ndoni and so on) to Western bank of the river Niger (Enuani, Ukwuani, Ika), to Kogi state and so on.
The Nri civilisation with its main centre in the Nri-Awka axis was NOT an empire nor was it interested in building empires. Infact it had no standing army. It was a an agrarian civilisation that helped to create the laws that kept the peace amongst the agricultural people of this part of the world. It helped to define authority, and helped the agricultural communities make sense of their environment and sense of existence. That is why even when eventually the small town of Benin came in contact with the Portuguese slave traders and became a rich slave trading outpost, its rulers still needed to legitimise themselves using the only known spiritual authority which was the Eze Nri who presented ofor to all the various communities in the region.
In modern Nigerian politics, the people who are most despised yet also the people who everyone is secretly or openly obsessed with, are the Igbos. So it is fashionable to try to discredit the igbos. Most Nigerians don’t even know the richness and depth of igbo history because Igbo history wasn’t flattered by the British who tried their best to suppress it and promote centralised monarchs such as Emir, and Oba.