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Zionmdde:
You are complaining they can't stand a yoruba man, did they also make that complain for obasanjo? If they say let it be rotational presidency across the 6 regions, won't you be the same person that will kick against it?


Na wa oooo. Bigots and not having sense are just like siamese twins

they got better appointment during obj tenure

So they are only after their mouth n not d betterment of d country

DMerciful:
Give it to 0b1 who has shown capacity, capability and compassion

how did he show that during his 8 years of governance in anambara?


Don't tell me what he will do as president, tell me what he did in anambara that spelt capacity, capability n compassion?


If he had d capacity, y did poverty rise under him?

If he had d capability, y was he terribly cursed as governor?

If he had d compassion, y didn't he show it by stopping doctors n lecturers from going on strike?

Didn't he consider their family will go hungry?

Bastela:

if we are serious as a nation, EFCC should trial u n lock u up

franchasng:
Go through the thread from the beginning and if you are honest you would notice how tribalistic and insensitive Yorubas are.


The poster shared Peter Obi's video where he was interviewed and he answered objectively how would govern Nigeria differently to make things better without mentioning any tribe and he only said the man that is currently the President have been there for 2 years and see how things are, that it shows a determined President can get things working in Nigeria in two years.


I replied without mentioning any region or state. I even listed Obi's qualities and how he outlined what and what he would do differently.


Jumped in Yoruba commentors and instead of them tackling the issues raised, they went tribal as usual, next they started talking about Peter Obi not remaining in his region because his region is bad and he didn't do anything. Go through the responses from your people, is that how to have a national political discussion yet you guys are always the first to accuse others of tribalism.



That was how you guys turned 2023 Presidential election to a tribal supremacy war between Igbos and Yorubas just because for the first time in many years an Igbo man became a major Presidential election contender even on an unknown party compared to your tribesman that was contesting on a ruling party backed by the incumbent President yet you guys couldn't resist the urge to turn the whole thing to a tribal battle just as your people are already doing even on this thread even when nobody mentioned Tinubu's tribe or even Lagos state he governed or Southwest.


Una go get wetin una de find from God I swear cos it's getting out of hand.

oga stop being emotional.

At this stage we should know our left from our right

We don't need anyone to lie to us again if truly we want the best for ourselves.

Those people vying for presidency have once held a post or two before, don't tell me what u will do

Tell me the reasonable things u did when u had d opportunity.

How can u want us to open a new book for u when u have been there before?

This is the same thing I have been talking about n how it is dangerous for our political future, majority of those vying to b president have been governors before.

They shouldn't campaign again but bring forward what they did as governor


If the option before me us umahi n yahaya bello, I don't need anyone to campaign to me before I pick umahi.


If the option before me us otti n babagana ( who declared 4 weeks holiday for Ramadan), I don't need any campaign to tell me it's otti.

Simply because I will only check their previous records.

What u people are doing is like saying we should have umahi n yahaya bello and u are telling me how yahaya Bello will change d world n how he deserves it better than umahi when I can both access their performances as governor.

Based on performance as governor, obi failed woefully n u can't b the one to tell us he will do better next time. The 8 years he had he fumbled so y give him a bigger assignment if he failed small ones.

My question to u


In d next 20 years, if the presidential contest is between umahi and yahaya bello, based on performance as governor.

Who is reasonable for us to pick?

Umahi or yahaya Bello?

Zionmdde:
There were 18 presidential candidates in 2023 elections. So apc lp and pdp weren't the only parties

oya give us the ones to vote n make sure they have never been in APC, PDP or LP before.


Oya now

drlateef:
Complete rubbish. Is this how daft many people are in this country. ”Just give it to anyone outside APC”, what kind of madness is in that thinking. So you can collect your child from the claws of a wolf and give it to a lion without thinking? Only nzogbu nzogbu people think like this. Very sorry state of the mind indeed!

they know what they are doing, their problem is that they hate APC and can't stand that a Yoruba man is the president but since they can't say it out

That's y they always say collect it from APC n give it to anyone, it's like saying just collect it from Yoruba n give it to anybody even if it's a Cameroonian or a Ghanaian.

They just don't want a Yoruba there

Zionmdde:
Lol, 16yrs you counted yaradua's 2 yes too?
The fact that the failure even gets to 8yrs is a testament that we are not serious in this country

Funny enough I was one of pdp critic in those years, apc has shown they are worse. Look at America with 2 party system, they change the parties if they feel like the past government didn't do well.

Moreover I asked, were there only 2 parties that contested 2023 elections?

please name the remaining parties


Don't forget LP is PDP lite because same people in LP today were once strong members of PDP few years ago

Zionmdde:
I didn't mention any party yet, but if it is to give back to pdp , it's even better. At least yaradua was a pdp president
Nevertheless, it's not only pdp, apc and lp that contested 2023 election

so u are saying it's better to collect it from someone u claim he failed for 10 years n give it to someone who failed woefully for good 16 years?


Now we know where u are driving at

franchasofficia:
Whenever I see someone talking about remaining in your region, I ignore them cos its typical of Yoruba nodowells.


You guys are so myopic and annoying.


You know the story of Southeast region and Igbos marginalization since the end of civil war even when you guys chose not to acknowledge it, deep down your hearts you know it.


You know the intentional silent agreement by the North and Southwest that an Igbo man must never be allowed to rule Nigeria again after the civil war. You know and see how Southeast regions get sidelined openly from national infrastructural plans and developments. It happened under Buhari, it's happening under Tinubu, yet you wonder why Igbo entrepreneurs are in other regions running their businesses. May God and nature treat your tribe and region the way Northern Nigeria and Southwest Nigeria have treated Igbos and may God and nature treat Southeast and Igbos the way Igbos have treated Southwest and North, amen.



I won't be replying you again, bye

someone analysed how your candidate failed in his small state n u got emotional, reading your write up gives me a feeling u are trying to hold back tears.

Guy was it federal government or south west that made doctors strike for good 13 months under obi?

Was it south west that made lecturers went on strike for good 6 months under obi?..


Was it south west that made poverty rise under obi?

Was it south west that stopped obi from conducting local government election in anambara?

If south west did all that, y didn't they stop otti, soludo n umahi?


Y was it that it was only obi that was stopped?

Or did federal government at any point in time withhold any of obi money?

Misterone:
Sometimes I wonder if Obi is a dictator! He speaks like one. Does he think Nigeria is like Anambra where he couldn't perform even with his dictatorial tendencies! He didn't conduct LGA elections for 8 years, he refused to pay minimum wage, and he was killing the youths like flies without due process. Nigeria is far more than that. You have to pass a budget before you spend. The house have the powers to amend and even refuse part of your budget. Just look at the Tax reforms, it's been nearly 2 years now! Does he think he would have done it faster with his less than 5% Labour party at the NASS? This man needs to think before he talks

The only people who take him serious are his kinsmen who desperately need an Ibo president even though they themselves know the truth that he failed as Anambra governor they just want an Ibo to b president.


Imagine saying they don't care who collects it but we should just collect it from Tinubu

Yorubaskullmine:
Anytime anyone tries comparing this s.w.ine town Ibadan with any South East city, I always vomit.

this is one way we recognise ibos that haven't left south east before.

An Ibo staying in Ibadan will tell u that's just the old side of Ibadan that was inhabited by our forefathers.


If u see d new side u will shock, I invited my guy from Delta to Ibadan n e shock.

He said he used to think everyone in Ibadan is staying in d brown roof side.


I pray God give u breakthrough from village to explore Ibadan then u will see the reality by yourself.


Till then keep posting this picture

helinues:
Bro, if you have seen Peter Obi discussing economy or governance, you must definitely get bored because even the basics terms for both, Peter Obi doesn't know them. I have some saved link which I saved before the last election.

Okay fine, his past as a former governor might not be up to the standard, but at least be creative to come up with what you are going to do differently not by comparing Nigeria with any country.

someone who doesn't even know the meaning of green energy.

Even Atiku later used it to mock him in another interview, the annoying thing is that it is his kinsmen who desperately need a president that are doing all these.


Every one not from their tribe can see d deciet, if they tell us it's their turn then it's understandable but telling us he's d most competent is a slap on our faces

Zionmdde:
Now he has gone tribal. Sorry i dont do all that tribalism you guys do here. I will prefer an osibanjo to an ikpeazu

Yes I don't care which party wins, but just not APC, at least for now. Till another party fails and apc presents a better option/hope

You have done the comparison on governorship level, and you refused to do it on presidential level, tinubu has failed but let him remain there instead of trying a new president, same thing was said for buhari, same thing will be said again after tinubu and we ask if Nigeria is cursed that we are not progressing

Private companies hire and fire all the time that is why they have performing staffs. They will even hire someone who has failed in another company. But government workers knows that it's no leave no transfer that's why they don't care about performance. You can compare the two sectors in terms of productivity

so are u saying we e should take it from APC that has failed for 10 years n give to to PDP that failed for 16 years


Or which party are we giving it too apart from PDP?
.


N once u want to mention LP don't forget obi n datti were strong PDP members few years ago so LP is another branch of PDP.

So are u saying we should take it from APC and give it to PDP or PDP lite(LP)?

JagabanBorgu:
Those who use the slogan "take back your country" are a group of faiIed crîmîñaIs who want Nigerians to bring them into power because they fell out of power.
If Nigerians are taking back the country, a new face with a new and proven philosophy must be at the helm, not a recycled fràûd who faiIed w0efuIIy as governor but wants to sneak into power.

God bless u


They are shouting take back your country n they want to give it to the same people who they have once labelled failures ..


If truly they want us to take back the country then they should bring new faces who have never held any position since 99.


It's just like telling me to run from an arm robber n go n hide in d house of a ritualist.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Don't be trying to reason with these agbado heads
Just ask questions to expose their hypocrisy
Has he ever voted for sowore before? In Lagos in the last election, same agbado preferred Sanwo who has been in govt since 1999 to GRV who has never held any office. Maybe as tinubulation is holding him this afternoon he's having buyer's remorse. Just wait let their WhatsApp admin post some tribal drivel and he'll return to default setting

Lagos is an indigenous state and only it's indigene can b governor same as anambara n other 4 Ibo states, unlike Nigeria.

Chinedu isn't a Yoruba man n he made it clear he doesn't think in Yoruba.

So u want the people to vote for someone who made it clear he's not part of them n doesn't think like them?

Someone who denigrates their heritage by using a slur word to address them.

Chinedu isn't the only one with a Ibo mother but he was solely rejected for his words and actions


Adeleke has an Ibo mom n he's a governor today

Aregbesola has an Igbira father n he was once governor.

Desmond Elliot was accepted with both hands, so check yourself n tell your self the truth about y chinedu was rejected

Agbegbaorogboye:
Since 2015, you have been voting people who have been in govt into office regardless of performance.

So when did you realise that you can't give it to who has been in office before?

it is only a blocked minded person that will keep doing the same thing everytime n expecting different results.

If u people truly believe we should take our country back then we should take it back from set of 99 n look for new people.


That's what is called overhauling, not taking it back from someone u labelled a failure from the other end n giving it to the failure from your own side.

It's crystal care that all u just want is power, u don't care if u collect it from a failure n give it to another failure, u just want to collect it from d present person holding it cos he's not your own.

U people don't know it's very easy to see through your games


If truly u want d best for Nigeria, collect it from tinubu u labelled a failure n give it to someone better n not your own failure

Zionmdde:
Yes if they fumble we give it another person. That's why Chelsea will keep being above arsenal for now. You keep rotating till you get it. That's why private company staffs are more performing than government workers
It will keep elected leaders on their toes, as they know it's either they perform or they are booted out

The system of let's keep voting our party, irrespective of their performance, where has it gotten Nigeria up.till now?

oga this is not football

Don't compare apples to oranges abeg, no private company will give a position to someone who have been there and failed before
.

They will rather give it to a new person, so we should keep rotating so it can get to the same people u once labelled failures right?

With your replies here, it's obvious u don't care who becomes president but u just don't want APC or a Yoruba person because this your idea of finding solutions with both eyes closed is what I don't understand


U don't care if u give it to someone worst than the present one but u just don't want d present one to b there.


Oga if u want to b sincere with yourselves, that's not how to find a solution. A solution is a well calculated n sort out way of ending a problem not just an emotionally distorted approach like your idea.


If by your postulation we should take it from tinubu n still give it to people in tinubu class of 99 then let Tinubu continue cos it won't make a difference.


But if it's to collect it from tinubu n give it to someone new n below 60 then no problems

Freebills12:
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What's the essence of your phone! A simple search would have solved your problem. Have you seen any of former military leaders blamed Ojukwu?
If you are the leader of your people and after the counter coup the soldiers are still killing your people will be quiet? At Aburi accord in Ghana consensus was reached but the same people killing your still break the treaty! Worst of it all the head of state is not doing anything to caution them... If you still blame Ojukwu I wonder if such occasion comes it may not be your tribe but your family, hope you will stay and allow them to killed.

Go n read about aburi accord n d actions of ojukwu n see how ojukwu messed things up.

The problem with u lots is that u relied on false narrative given to u by your insincere relatives and they really capitalized on the fact that Nigeria didn't say anything about d war afterwards.


Read about aburi accord and the mistake of ojukwu.


Just type it to Google now n cure your ignorance

Dalohad:
So it is not longer our Awolowo and Col. Benjamin Adekunle (Black Scorpion) who shot down Red cross planes and bragged about not allowing food enter Biafran territory?

was Awolowo a soldier?

helinues:
https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing?s=08

The thread above, when it was created, people used to mind their home state, home region on this forum. 75% of those who are on the thread are either Anambra people/indigenes or non indigenes residing or moving around to Anambra state during that time they commented on the thread above. First hand experience.

Ironically, some of those who described how horrible Peter Obi was as Anambra state governor are today claiming the same Peter Obi is the best to govern Nigeria.

My question is, did Peter Obi govern in Pluto where he performed extra ordinary after his 8 wasted years as Anambra state governor hence those who condemned him then are now claiming he is the best?

do u know one annoying thing about Peter obi

Anytime he's asked to relate what he did in Anambra to how he will solve Nigeria complex issues, he will start talking about China, Indonesia n co.

It was so annoying in one interview that the moderator told obi that he should stop talking about China and Indonesia.

Obi was dumbfounded, the guy told him point blank to talk about Anambra n his vision for Nigeria at large

christejames:
If Otti can transform Aba nay Abia state in less than two years with lean resource then PO can transform Nigeria in less than one year with our enormous wealth that APC keep squandering

obi had good 8 years in Anambra, y didn't he turn it to Dubai?


At least u want us to believe he will do 36 things better within one year, but same person couldn't do just one thing better for good 8 years.


Your words are directly inproportional to the reality on ground

franchasofficia:
Yiu guys should stop this nonsense talk about what he did in Anambra.


To start with, Anambra is not Nigeria.


Anambra is just a baby state with scarce resources as at when Obi governed the state. Have you ever checked when Anambra was created? Awka Anambra capital is one of the youngest state capitals in Nigeria.


Lagos is like a country inside a country with enormous wealth, resources and federal presence, so you cannot compare an Anambra Governor's performance with Lagos Governor's performance. How many times do you hear about US states like Virginia, South Carolina, compare them to viable states like California, New York, Texas. You guys should have some sense.



Those aside, human being is meant to learn from his mistakes and improve on it to become better with time. Only a useless human becomes worst than he was some years back. Peter Obi as a man conscious of being an exemplary leader has gone further to acquire more knowledge, wisdom and global exposure which has made him a far better person than he was when he ruled Anambra state as a very young trader. He has grown to become a global entrepreneur with global experience and exposure and he has been consistent in telling everyone that cares how he intends to lead or govern Nigeria different for good if given the chance.


He is not saying let me win first and I will tell you guys what I will do, neither is he saying I will do the wonders I did in Anambra state, he is progressive and telling you what he intends to do based on the current situation of Nigeria now and based on his experience, exposure and expertise as at today, he is not trying to live on a past glory.


Some people are better today than they were some years back. I for example, I am far better than I was in 2010. I am more expored, more learned, more versed, more experienced and more knowledgeable than I was in 2010 and that applies to all progressive humans who strives for growth.


So you guys should quit all these nonsensical talk of what this person did as a Governor some decades ago, we are in a different time and era, tell us what you intend to do differently to better Nigeria as at today not based on any media lies or propaganda of whatever you claimed you did some years back, what if you are no longer sound in mind and character as at today? What if you have joined bad gang, etc?

since Anambra is such a young state with scarce resources that obi couldn't perform

Hope u know Abia and ebonyi had less and otti is doing great now that we all can see n it was the exemplary performance of umahi in small ebonyi that earned him better position at d federal level.

To my question.

If otti and umahi can do wonders in states with less resources than Anambra, what stopped obi from performing wonders at Anambra?

Agbegbaorogboye:
But you're always here defending Tinubu
Is Tinubu less than 60 or a new face?

if we are taking it back from Tinubu, we can't give it to anyone who have held one position or two since 99 to 2023.

If truly u people are sincere about taking it back then it must b a new person.

Anything less than that is pure deciet

Zionmdde:
Bold in making decisions that favors only political leaders massively abi?
Decisions that has brought untold hardship to the common man.
If I ask you now, you will say the common man should go and huzzle.
If I still ask you one thing the common man on the street has benefitted from the so called policies, you will be here yarning rubbish

@OP, give it to anyone asides APC. If there is anything it signifies, it will be a warning to any party in power, perform or be booted out. Why there is so much laxity among leaders to perform is simple, they don't care, all they know that come next election they will buy votes and rig elections

if your opinion is to give it to anyone aside APC then let Tinubu continue cos we will just b moving in circles.

So we will collect it from APC n give it to PDP or LP now, then when they fumble again people like u will come again n say give it to anyone aside PDP n we will return it to APC again?
. meaning we will keep moving in circles till we give it back to either yahaya Bello or ikpeazu or aregbesola or any deadbeat politician


That your method can't work, let's take it back n give it to a new set of people with new ideas different from people who have held one position or d other since 99 till 2023

Agbegbaorogboye:
You who do you think they should give it back to

there are many options available

Sowore
That 39 year old Ibo professor from accord

N many more

My point is someone less than 60 who hasn't been there before

AustineE1:
Peter Obi,the man with the mids touch.

Midas touch that made people curse him in Anambra

Till today he can't even pick d form for a councilor in his state


Wait, shebi anambara election is coming very soon y are u obedient not talking about it?

Is it that same obi that knows d best for everyone doesn't know the best for his state?

Topman7:
Did you transform Anambra state in 8 years?

Wayo man.

Jibiti man.

don't mind them

Someone who made poverty rise in tiny Anambra believe he will do magic in 36 states?

The only people that takes this man serious are those who need Ibo president desperately, I will prefer otti, umahi, soludo over him a million times cos we can see what those ones are doing

franchasofficia:
Tell them my man, the man of the people, the choice of man and spirits

if we ask u to name things he did in Anambra for good 8 years now, na insult go follow

franchasofficia:
Tell them my man, the man of the people, the choice of man and spirits

the same man who couldn't point to a single legacy in tiny Anambra after good 8 years wants to turn Nigeria to Dubai in 2 years?

Arostar2023:
So Ojukwu caused the pogrom against igbos? It was Ojukwu who ordered the killings of Igbos all over northern Nigeria after the military coup? Granted that Ojukwu (as a man he was) took advantage of the chaos to further his own ambition and ideology, but blaming him for what happened is mischievous.

why did ibos kill other people's leaders n left theirs?

muyico:
He no win d election

ok


But Obasanjo n Tinubu have made yorubas happy afterwards.


Same can't b said about those hate filled southerners who stood again a president from south west Nigeria.

God vindicated us

.funny enough those people are still chasing to b president till today n no greenlight yet

kettykin:
And the starvation of women , children , shooting down Red cross planes, medicine san frontiers and barring the World Churches council from humanitarian aids is what

ojukwu did all these to garner aids from d West n it didn't work

One day when an unbiased person analyse how ojukwu used his hands to destroy u people during the needless war then u will understand better.

.the reason u are playing victim today is because Nigeria decided to mute about what happened during the war.
..


Hope u know many reasons y d south south always deny wanting to have anything with u lots?

Hope u know till today south south people still celebrate freedom Day from Biafra?