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MaxinDhouse, You are totally in confussion!

You are totally in confussion!

Christians, How do you understand this?

1. The Trinity vs Purely One God

Christianity teaches that God is one, yet also three persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).

• How can three distinct persons each be fully God, yet there is only one God?

• Why didn’t prophets like Abraham or Moses clearly teach this central concept?

👉 This raises questions about consistency with strict monotheism.


2. Jesus as God vs Jesus Praying to God

In the Bible, Jesus Christ prays to God.

• If Jesus is God, who is he praying to?

• Is God praying to Himself?

👉 This creates a logical tension about identity and distinction.


3. Limited Knowledge vs Divine Omniscience

Jesus is described as not knowing certain things:

• If Jesus is fully God, how can he lack knowledge?

• Can God ever be ignorant of anything?

👉 This challenges the idea of full divinity.


4. God Dying on the Cross

Christian belief says Jesus (God) died for sins.

• Can God die, even temporarily?

• If God died, who was sustaining the universe?

👉 Raises deep metaphysical questions.


5. Original Sin and Justice

The doctrine says humans inherit sin from Adam.

• Is it just to punish people for a sin they did not commit?

• Why would a just God require innocent blood (Jesus) to forgive others?

👉 Questions fairness and moral responsibility.


6. Salvation by Faith vs Deeds

Many Christian teachings emphasize salvation through faith.

• If faith alone saves, what about good actions?

• Can a bad person be saved just by belief, while a good person is not?

👉 Raises ethical concerns about accountability.


7. Contradictions in the Bible Narratives

Different Gospel accounts sometimes vary.

• Why are there differences in key events (e.g., resurrection details)?

• Should divine revelation contain inconsistencies?

👉 Encourages textual analysis.


8. God Being Tempted

The Bible says Jesus was tempted.

• Can God truly be tempted?

• If He cannot sin, is the temptation real?

👉 Philosophical issue about divine nature.


9. Clear Message vs Later Theology

Core doctrines like the Trinity were formalized later (e.g., Council of Nicaea).

• Why wasn’t such a central belief clearly taught from the beginning?

• Did theology evolve over time?


10. Worship of Jesus vs Jesus’ Teachings

Jesus emphasized worship of God.

• Did Jesus ever explicitly say: “Worship me”?

• Why do Christians worship him if he directed worship to God?


How do you understand this?

Can you help me reconcile this idea?

What is your interpretation of this?

Sayyidah Ali said in Nahju balagha

"The consultation of choosing the khalīfah is restricted to the Muhājirīn and the Anṣār, if they agree that a person should be the khalīfah then that is what Allah is pleased with. If anyone is not chosen to be a khalīfah due to him not being suitable for the position and he persists he will be fought on account of him going contrary to the believers, and Allah will hold him responsible for the choices that he had made."

What would be the attitude of the Shīʿah towards ʿAlī I after he had stated that:

1. The consultation of khilāfah is restricted to the Muhājirīn and the Anṣār (despite the Shīʿah not liking it).

2. Their concurrence is a means of attaining the pleasure of Allah

3. The khalīfah will not be elected without their consultation or approval.

4. Their decision will not be denied except by an innovator and transgressor.

5. One should fight those who oppose them.

6. Whoever opposes the Companions of the Prophet would be published in the hereafter, if not reoented

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Imam Ali (RA) and Early Islamic History – A Simple Clarification

Many people today assume that Imam ʿAli (رضي الله عنه) followed the same form of Shiʿism that exists today. A closer look at early Islamic history shows a very different picture.

Important historical fact:
During the lifetime of Imam ʿAli, there was no Shiʿism as a religious doctrine. What existed was only Shiʿat ʿAli, meaning supporters of ʿAli in a political sense. They believed he was more suitable for leadership, not that he had special religious status.

What history clearly records:

- Imam ʿAli gave bayʿah to Abu Bakr
- He advised and worked with Abu Bakr, ʿUmar, and ʿUthman
- He named some of his sons Abu Bakr, ʿUmar, and ʿUthman
- He never claimed divine appointment, infallibility, or exclusive authority

Key point many people miss:
The doctrines associated with today’s Shiʿism, such as infallible Imams, divine designation (nass), and rejection of the early caliphs, developed generations after Imam ʿAli.

Based on early Islamic sources:

- Imam ʿAli was not a doctrinal Shiʿi
- Early Shiʿism was political preference, not theology
- Imam ʿAli stood firmly within mainstream Islam of his time

This is not abuse or propaganda. It is early Islamic history discussed by classical historians and modern academics.

Do you agree or disagree? Let’s discuss with facts, not insults.

CAN ANY SHIA ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS?

1. Why were 50,000 Shia mosques out of about 75,000 in Iran shut down for lack of a single worshopper, as admitted by Iranian officials, when the closure of even one mosque is considered a calamity in Islam?

2. Why does Tehran province (the capital of Iran) have only 12 mosques per 100,000 people, while another province in Iran has around 264 mosques per 100,000 people?

3. After 45 years of indoctrination under Shia rule, why do surveys show that only about 32% of Iranian youth still identify as Shia, with many turning to atheism or Christianity?

4. Why are Shia youth abandoning the mosques in major Shia cities of Iran, while Sunni youth flock eagerly to mosques at every call to prayer?

5. What has caused many Shia Grand Ayatollahs and Ayatollahs to abandon Shiism?

6. Why is there not a single official Sunni mosque in Tehran, where Sunnis are forced to pray in rented rooms and halls—and why did the regime demolish the only available Sunni mosque in 2015?

7. Why are the numbers of seminary students in Iran shrinking, and why do many graduates refuse to serve as mosque imams?

8. Why do so many mosques in Iran stand without imams?

9. Why did Sayyiduna Ali (رضي الله عنه):

Name three of his sons Abubakar, Umar, and Uthman?

Marry two of his daughters to Umar and Uthman respectively?

Marry the widow of Abubakar after his death?

Adopt two of Abubakar’s young children?

Serve as an advisor to all three caliphs during their rule?

10. After accepting that the shia most important book, al kafi contain between 60 to 70% weak hadith why do you shia continue to use such weah Ahadith?

11. Why is Sunni Islam flourishing in Sunni-majority cities of Iran despite repression, while Shiism is withering in its stronghold cities—especially in Tehran?

12. Why did Mehdi Bazargan, the first Prime Minister after the Iranian revolution, state:

“The result of the Prophet’s mission was that people entered Islam in multitudes, while the result of Iran’s Islamic Revolution is that people are leaving Islam in multitudes.”

Questions for Toliat Mustapha and all those trying to bring Shia to Yorubaland

If Shia beliefs are truly the correct path, then these questions deserve clear, direct, and evidence-backed answers—without diversion, personal attacks, or vague responses.

1️⃣ Why have many Grand Ayatollahs, Ayatollahs, and respected Shia scholars publicly rejected and condemned core Shia doctrines?

2️⃣ How do you explain the fact that some prominent Grand Ayatollahs and Ayatollahs have left Shi’ism entirely and embraced Sunni Islam?

3️⃣ Based on 2020 and 2023 GAMMA and other independent polls, why are large numbers of Iranian youth and university students abandoning prayer (Salat), neglecting fasting, and even engaging in prohibited acts like alcohol consumption?

4️⃣ Why do most Iranians consistently vote against hardline Shia leadership despite living in a Shia-governed state?

5️⃣ Why is Iran reportedly the only country in the world where significant numbers of citizens are leaving Shi’ism for other religions—or abandoning religion entirely?

6️⃣ Why are more Iranian youth openly declaring disbelief in Islam altogether?

7️⃣ Why are there mass protests in Iran against long-standing Islamic practices, such as the hijab?

8️⃣ Why do so many former Shia clerics actively write books and run websites exposing and condemning Shia doctrines?

9️⃣ Why do Shia clerics—past and present—admit that Kitab al-Kafi, their most important Hadith collection, contains numerous weak and irrational narrations?

🔟 Why do many people who were born and raised under strict Shia teaching eventually become its most determined critics?

Open the link bellow to see how badly is the shia religion situation in Iran:

https://gamaan.org/2020/08/25/iranians-attitudes-toward-religion-a-2020-survey-report/

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I asked ChatGPT a series of questions regarding a claim being spread online—especially by a certain individual—about the incident of the Prophet ﷺ and the cave of Thawr.

Me: Have any Shia Ayatollahs ever said that Abu Bakr wasn’t the person in the cave with the Prophet ﷺ?

ChatGPT: No. All credible Twelver Shia scholars affirm that Abu Bakr was the companion in the Cave of Thawr. This includes well-known names like al-Mufid, Mulla al-Kashani, and Tabataba’i. The Qur’an itself (9:40) refers to the Prophet’s “companion” in the cave, and Shia tafsir agrees that this refers to Abu Bakr.

Me: How many sources support this?

ChatGPT: Over 1,000 classical and modern Shia sources confirm this, including major tafsir and history books.

Me: What about all the major Shia tafsir?

ChatGPT: Tafsir works by scholars like al-Tusi, al-Fayd al-Kashani, al-Mufid, al-Tabataba’i, and even contemporary figures like Nasir Makarim Shirazi all agree Abu Bakr was the Prophet’s companion in the cave.

Me: And what about the historical books?

ChatGPT: Same conclusion. Books like Tarikh al-Ya’qubi, Kitab al-Irshad by Shaykh al-Mufid, and others confirm that Abu Bakr was there with the Prophet ﷺ. None of the major Shia historical texts deny this.

Me: Has any Ayatollah in the past or now denied this?

ChatGPT: No. None—past or present. In fact, many have confirmed the story exactly as Sunni and Shia agree on.

Me: Any modern Shia book pushing the opposite idea?

ChatGPT: No. Modern Shia scholars actually reaffirm that view. There’s no recognized Shia author or tafsir saying otherwise.

Me: But there’s a Yoruba guy named Taliha Mustapha claiming otherwise online for over a year. He says he’s in a seminary in Iran and posting regularly about this.

ChatGPT: His view is fringe and has no basis in Shia texts or teachings. He may be influenced by online misinformation, bias, or personal interpretations. But no classical or modern Shia scholars support his claim. It’s not Shia doctrine.

Me: But his posts are causing people to hate Shia more.

ChatGPT: That’s the danger. When someone spreads false claims in the name of a school of thought, it fuels hatred and misunderstanding. His statements misrepresent Shia Islam and wrongly suggest that they reject well-known historical facts like Abu Bakr being in the cave. It’s misleading and damaging.

Me: Yoruba scholars have tried to correct him, but he insists he represents Shia belief.

ChatGPT: That’s a big problem. True Shia scholarship is based on deep study, consensus, and evidence—not fringe opinions. If local scholars have tried to guide him but he refuses, then respected voices may need to speak up publicly to clarify that he does not speak for Shia Islam. It's important to make a clear distinction between personal opinions and established religious teachings—especially when it affects unity and peace among Muslims.

In conclusion, the claim that Shia Islam denies Abu Bakr’s presence in the Cave of Thawr is completely false. All major Shia tafsir, historical works, and scholars—past and present—affirm his presence with the Prophet ﷺ. What individuals like Taliha Mustapha promote is a personal and baseless opinion that does not represent authentic Shia belief in any way.

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🕌 Was Abu Bakr (RA) in the Cave With the Prophet ﷺ? Scholarly Views From Different Traditions
For Educational Purposes Only – Non-Sectarian

Allah, the Exalted, says in the Qur’an:

“If you do not aid him (the Prophet), Allah has already aided him when those who disbelieved had driven him out as one of two, when they were in the cave and he said to his companion: ‘Do not grieve; indeed Allah is with us.’ Then Allah sent down His tranquility upon him and supported him with forces you did not see…”
(Surah At-Tawbah 9:40)

This verse clearly refers to the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) and his companion in the cave during the Hijrah (migration) from Makkah to Madinah. Among Ahl al-Sunnah, it is unanimously accepted that this companion was Abu Bakr As-Siddiq (RA).

But what do scholars from other Islamic traditions say? Interestingly, a number of respected Twelver Shia scholars — classical and modern — have also affirmed that Abu Bakr (RA) was indeed the companion of the Prophet ﷺ in the cave.

📚 Testimonies from Prominent Scholars

Below are statements from well-known Twelver Shia scholars and their tafsir works:

🔹 Muhammad Baqir al-Majlisi (Bihar al-Anwar):

“The second of the two when they were in the cave – meaning it was him (the Prophet) and Abu Bakr, and no third was with them.”
(Vol. 19, p. 33)

🔹 Abu Ali al-Tabrasi (Majma' al-Bayan):

“The second of the two means it was him (the Prophet) and Abu Bakr in the cave.”
(Vol. 5, p. 54)

🔹 Abu Ja`far al-Tusi (Tafsir al-Tibyan):

“The second of the two – referring to him and another, and that is Abu Bakr during their time in the cave.”
(Vol. 5, p. 221)

🔹 Al-Fayz al-Kashani (Tafsir al-Safi):

“When he said to his companion – and it is Abu Bakr.”
(Vol. 2, p. 344)

🔹 Muhammad Husayn al-Tabataba’i (al-Mizan):

“The companion mentioned is Abu Bakr due to clear transmitted reports.”
(Vol. 9, p. 279)

🔹 Nasir Makarim al-Shirazi (Tafsir al-Amthal):

“The expression 'the second of the two' indicates that the Prophet was only accompanied by Abu Bakr on this difficult journey.”
(Vol. 6, p. 57)

🔹 Al-Shaykh al-Mufid (al-Ifsah):

“As for Abu Bakr leaving with the Prophet ﷺ, this is not denied. And him being in the cave is not rejected.”
(p. 185)

✅ Summary

Even though some individuals today may cast doubt, the early and authoritative scholars of various schools of thought — including classical Twelver Shia scholars — affirmed that Abu Bakr (RA) was the sole companion of the Prophet ﷺ during the Hijrah cave incident.

This serves as a reminder to rely on well-documented sources, and to seek knowledge with fairness and sincerity.

📌 Disclaimer:
This post is shared purely for educational purposes and not intended to promote sectarian arguments. It is meant to highlight the importance of accurate scholarship and historical consistency across Islamic traditions.




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What makes valid marriage in Islam

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[size=12pt]The obligatory (essential) elements (arkan) that constitute a valid Islamic marriage (Nikah) are:

1. Ijāb and Qabūl (Offer and Acceptance)
– Clear proposal and acceptance between the two parties in the same sitting.


2. Mutual Consent
– Both the bride and groom must agree willingly without force or compulsion.


3. Wali (Guardian) for the Bride
– A guardian (usually the father) is required, especially for a virgin woman.


4. Two Just Muslim Witnesses
– At least two trustworthy Muslim male witnesses (or one male and two females).


5. Mahr (Dowry)
– A mandatory gift from the groom to the bride, even if symbolic or prosponed


These are the obligatory components. Without them, the Nikah is invalid. If all these are however fulfilled, even in a single day or a single sitting, lslamic marriage has occured.


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What makes valid marriage in Islam
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