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ediplan:
Well point of correction, He did not leave as a result of our conversation. he left much later. you have called me name and I have thank you, so how is saying you a jealous an abusive word. you can put it as you want but we will cross the bridge when we get there.

You are a fraud and that his your name.
You don't have integrity here,

With all the evidence here, it was if saxy4c ask for prize money that was your interest, little did you know we already crossed that bridge. Now you have seen proof of intention and also his mail written request with unshaken fact of him trying to use someone else account to claim the prize.

With all of these facts stated, it's clear you are also part of the fraud, you bloody thief.

Now this next of screenshot is ediplan and saxy4c actively drilling blackeurop, i don't see him actively looking fault lines in the victim, but rather drilling the accused (blackeurop) back to back


But now he is not using same yardstick for saxy4c.
Don't let his big English and composure fool you.
It's very clear that ediplan is also a fraudster too and saxy4c is his Boss.


2 years ago he was doing two sure odds, now all of sudden he has PHD in forex account management

Ediplan what has happened to all the affiliate accounts under your guys control?

You fraudster makes it looks like you are out to help people, but the real sense is that you are silently nursing them to milk them dry to opening accounts with real money.
Mind you this are people with little or no on knowledge in forex this newbie but you expose them to a very complex market just for your profits.

You are a fraud ediplan, you don't have the moral compass to ask Pipsbasketings for proof, you have access to saxy4c but you refuse to call him out.
You are using soft voice for your partner in crime but using a trumpet to call out Pipsbasketings.

Very soon, fowl yansh go finally open and your victims would start coming out one after the other.


How can a seasoned trader like saxy4c blow up account and is excuse is that he was overwhelmed with the happenings in NL i don't understand.
Meaning if small headache catch am means it equate to him losing money in FX.
Clearly the dude hasn't even past the first test as trader and doesn't have control of his emotions as we thought

This was me, ediplan, saxy4c and walexy100 in March 1

Walexy100 is no more because ediplan and crew drowned his voice and out of anger walexy100 deleted is account. Mind you walexy100 has been here for over 6 years/seasons because this fraudsters came on board, he couldn't stand the complex scam obviously.
And that is how saxy4c and his cohorts cleverly dwindled any form of opposition against them.

Imagine ediplan calling me jealous because i was point out my view. You can imagine his audacity.

They tried to even dwindled my voice as well

ediplan:
Thanks for the complement but I would keep insisting that what you have is not the full conversation and you knows maybe I want to help you broaden you findings, At least I now know you guys are together but make him talk so we can move on to the new chapter. if i misrepresent like your guy, I apologise and we move abi?

Saxy4c is your Boss, tell him to send you the whole conversion so you can find what you are looking for there.

ediplan:
You see its my naivity that makes me keep insisting that he should answer the question and it would not be too hard for you if you have to put sentiment aside to tell him to. i remember when he made his findinding known he was attacked till he showed evidence. haven just come into this discuss dont you think I have some evidence too for asking the question, plase keep emotion aside as a judge that has heard one side and tell him to answer my question.

That question should be directed to your partner in crime.

ediplan:
You See my people this life can be very funny, I would not at this be talking for saxy4c see the guy making noise continually, reposting the same evidences again and again. He is not able to answer question just one o because he knows I could have things to put up. I remember some matured giys like pipnator telling him to relax that he had made his point and that there were some level of legal breach in what he was doing but no he would not pipe down. He has done a great job yes but he has also misrepresented some key information. he has proved that he has alternative mission.
IF THIS HOUSE IS FAIR AND JUST TELL PIPSBASKET TO ANSWER MY QUESTION

I tried to reason with you but it seems your mind is pretty much made up.

For clarity sake,

1. Saxy4c mailed Pipsbasketings, clearly it wasn't to discuss palm kernel business
2. From the records it has shown that saxy4c clearly had interest in the money.
3. I have a crayon screenshot just to dumb it down further to your level, which happens to be your only defense point,

You also happens to be the account manger for saxy4c, so clearly we all know where your priority stands.
Now for you.
1. You said you started the $100 to $1,000 challenge, clearly you are also a fraudster who has cajole people into loading their account through an affiliate link.
2. Its clear to note you are a strong accomplice in this crime, and don't give me that BS that you didn't ask people to pay money. I have taken time to post the affiliate scam already which you happen to be ring lead.


Sir, you are a fraudster

ediplan:
Honestly you are a very matured person. I have stated it again and again that saxy4c needs to put out a statement here which ever form he deems it fit, so we are on the same page on this, can you also help me insist on Pipsbasket to answer if saxy expressly asked for the prize. if he says no then he has misrepresented facts and even in court his case would not fly for fraud except he files for breach of trust. that is why I will keep insisting that pipsbasket has other motives though saxy4c has not explained to you guys.

With all i have carefully pointed out and you are still asking this childish question, it is disappointing.
Why would you think like a naive person.
What other evidence do you want that you don't already have bros?
You have been trying to look for loopholes in all of this thus asking the wrong person the wrong question.
The answers you seek lies with your partner saxy4c. You should call him out yourself to prove otherwise not soliciting as his voice this why pip-b called you fake.
The evidence labeled against him clearly shows he had interest in the prize.
I will narrow it down a bit for you in my next post while you seek the remaining answers with your fraudulent partner saxy4c.

Pip-B is the victim here but No, you rather defend the accused thus seeking fault lines in his stories because you feel he is someone of important.

ediplan:
I am honestly feeling you on this, does he have explaining to do,? yes if he chooses to do it here; did the full message show he wanted the prize? no. this shows that pipsbasket is misrepresenting facts. the half information that investigator is putting out shows he has scores to settle. I can give you access to the project group to see for yourself since you have taught me how to connect the dots so that you can understand my point.

Pip-B has dropped his facts,
If you feel the message is one sided,
Then you should invite saxy4c to prove otherwise,
He has been active here for 3+ years now,
He shouldn't be quiet now, don't you think so?

To be honest, the fact he claimed someone account either to win or not claim any money is enough reason for fraud.
You Could only imagine the number of members he has cajole silently with this methods, you can feel and understand the audacity in his messages in the mail and in the comments where he tries to clarify himself

ediplan:
yes I have digested the food and produced thoughts of it. I appreciate you for trying to help me by connecting the dots, if you keep conversing this way am sure we will get to a mid point where we both fight saxy or we correct investigator, If you have the entire mail and read it you will see that saxy4c was explaining to his mailing partner that the target he disputes was possible and then dropped the login in detail, why did he reach out? I dont know but their conversation from the full mail I read shows there was no intention to claim the prize, Does saxy4c have fault yes and does the ivestigator have a point saying he wants to claim the prize wrong, I hope I connected some dots,

Read my previous post with quote,
There lies your answer.
Cheers

Blessedisthelor:
Let's be constructive and follow facts only, do the following everyone.

1. Google the account number, and see what he opened in August and have been trading since then

Cc ediplan
Click the link and see him clearly asking for his prize money in the screenshot post there.

I await your response to this.

Blessedisthelor:
How can you change the investor pw of what does not belong to you?

you want my gift but with your demo account and in fact, impersonating a good fellow out there using his glory

Cc ediplan
My man please click on this and view the screenshot here.
If you still want detailed clarification on if he needed the $200 i can help your analysis and Interpret this very post

Feshizzy:
There's actually no mix up,
It's quite simple,
He took someone's else account and tried to claim/win a contest.

That tells alone that is trading isn't doing well at all and needs someone else account to shine and take glory.

It's quite very simple,
It's like bidding for a contract and using someone else work/manifesto to get the contract without the consent of the original owner.

In simple English, Fraud

Cc ediplan

saxy4c:
I have been offered sound counsel openly here and in private and it would be foolhardy to not listen to advice borne out of genuine concern and the general good of everyone here.
In plain English, I did not set out to scam anyone. Trust me or not, I've been presented with the opportunity on many occasions but I'd never be found wanting in that aspect.

Like I mentioned earlier, I just think pipbasket1 misrepresented all of this as a result of a preconceived notion he had and that got me put off from the start of all this. I have only set out to make good traders from those that have shown interest in trading and requested for nothing in return.

He says I was taken aback by his interaction and subsequent password change with marketedge. I have pipbasket1 chats with him forwarded to me and that was the point I chose to keep quite about everything. You don't meet a stranger and ask him of my Nairaland moniker or social handle and expect him to tell you he knows me. I've said it before now and I'd say it again because I won't post any private conversations here. If you or any other neutral party chooses to adjudicate, then allow me forward my defense and then you can ultimately decid 0e.

I'm actually more concerned that it has now become popular that I tried to dominate a thread which in the first place, I was attracted to because of the sole idea of forex related interactions and that was my only aim here. Where I have shown arrogance, I without any reservation apologize. If I have wrongly labeled anyone in this space I am truly sorry as well. For any other acts of mine that have led to the disorganization of this thread, it was truly of no willful intent and for that I would relegate my opinions to the sidelines and just share my ideas. I took Blackeurope personally because as theyoda had rightly pointed out, I was also initially taken by his acts and it was only grace that stopped me from getting into a venture that would have wrecked me and my reputation.

I am just confused as all of this is based on me in connection to a 200usd prize. Ordinarily would have been laughable but this is a faceless forum so anyone has a right to their perception of things. I would rather give and encourage anyone I see potentials in as a trader. In that light I'd like to add to the reward to GladmanGoddey by giving him the opportunity to trade an up to $50k account with a profit percentage, if he can repeat his last months feat to prove my point of argument with pipbasket1 which started all of this. Who knows if this has all been about you from the onset.

I've only set out to encourage traders, if you can't place evidence of fraud or scam on my person then don't use the anonymity of the internet to cast falsehood. I once again apologize truly for anyone I have hurt. I was only trying to protect naive ones from the scammers. I already see someone has taken the opportunity to advertise their sure signal service and where you send money for him to trade. Its hard to ignore certain precedence, but it is really not my business

I hope I have simply and without sentiments, responded as you requested. You once mentioned you were encouraged to trade Gold with no losess as that time. Did I also follow to pursue you? I truly apologize. This is thread that could lead us to connect with each other for bigger opportunities and better living. That has been my only focus. It's really a good thing to have all these varied opinions flying all around and all i hope for is that we are eventually profitable.Thank you.

Cc ediplan

After all said and done, he still claims to be a co trader of the account after all the accusations

ediplan:
brother there is no fact to twist here here and there is nothing to rewrite, saxy4c has question to answer on
why he sent the message and claimed it.
thats so bad of him really. my question
did he request for the prize

Food for thought,
Is there any other reason for him to be mailing if not to retrieve the prize?
He could have just made a post that the challenge is possible publicly.
For some to have been in the mails he clearly has a motive.
I am trying as much to be logically here.
If you can't connect the dots, then I'm sorry i can't help you

PS. You friend has gone into hiding, we all know he has a loud mouth and has his ways with his words.
You really need to go back to previous posts and see what he said during the incident, with that alone i don't think you will be willing to defend him. Just go through previous post

beejaay:
Am actually just going through some deep investigation.. Your attack at start was premature, you should have pointed me to where it started like pipsbasketing did... I understand you clearly now.. There were plenty shaddy angles from saxy point and I am greatly disappointed in him... Well like it's always said time reveal all things

Let's Bury the hatchet,
After reading previous post, you should understand why i am bringing in a machine gun to a knife fight.
His syndicate have always been online to discredit any form of evidence against him.
His cohorts took years to root, you are lucky to have back out to some little hurt. Others ain't that lucky and that's the part i am taking personally.
Some of his victims are filled with regrets and blames, some would have vowed never to visit fx on NL again.
There are so much factors on the victim side and the fraudster is still having a field day.
And it makes me really mad that with all that have been said someone would still want to even reason with saxy4c.

ediplan:
Abeg forgive the guy bros, it defaults in bring up and no medication for that yet, pls dont let this guys harass you. yes saxy sent a login that needs explaining but let them tell the house that he sent it and requested to be paid the 200 dollars prize

So much wisdom in your post sir,
Your loyalty is clearly unshaken thus joint partner.

You are trying to rewrite this script and i can assure you, it won't work this time.

If you are not a wonderful soul,
Your first question would be
Why did saxy4c message him first?
Second would be
Why would saxy4c even have to drop details that clearly isn't his thus still claiming it.

These things are in black and white, you can't twist the facts to favour you or your belief

ediplan:
I like the fact that that you have not responded as you know that would have meant you giving false representation, Now I need to let you know that saxy might not be a saint but you are dragging this unnecessarily for what ever reason you have in mind.

At this time it's official to call you dumb,
You have been asked to read the old posts,
But no, you want to flex muscle and English,
People viewing would be watching your stupidity unfolds in 3D.
After you realise that, it would be too late because we already quoted you and you can't take it back.


Once again, don't be stupid and read 50 pages back before you start an argument that 7 others has started and LOST

Pip-B is already exhausted trying to explain same thing over and over again because your dummies are to mentally fatigue to read previous post

ediplan:
Point of correction sweet bro, I am not at saxy4c I am ediplan. Let chief investigator show the mail where saxy4c requested for the 200 dollars if there is no external motive to this

Don't worry sir,
We would bring crayon edition for you in large format since you are clearly to daft to read past post just as your buddy beejaay

Crayon edition is coming just relax

Pipsbasketings:
The bolded is the reason why you are saying this........I doubt you can read.

You think I spoilt your business (agent), no more from here

Wawu
Even ediplan is a saxy4c minions too,
Clearly these set of fraudster wanted to use here has their base point for their operation.
That's why they want the matter to die down ASAP so they can get back to their fraud business.
I suggest we continue to escalate and have a details of this syndicate.
This would be a major burst after hush pupi

More minions would still emerge from their hiding and try to dwindle all of this especially seeking for obvious evidence.

The victims ain't coming out fully because they are worried of these minions trying to bury their voice.
Well clearly not on my watch

beejaay:
my point exactly.....why the unnecessary jealousy..did he forced anyone to join the challenge?? did he asked anyone for money i personally thorw 100$ at him at first as experiment but didnt have the energy to follow tru the second stage cos the strength of opening new broker and all and since it was just for experiment sake......any trader that trust another trader 100% is doing himselfenough said!!!

You are to dense to read the room or one of his stakeholders

beejaay:
thank you The Yoda...the is my exact opinion about the guy.. i have followed the guy from the beginning and i dont talk much on here and he is with good and bad side but he is definitely not a scammer unless proven otherwise which am ready to accept with evidence

Clearly someone has issues with comprehension like i have always said or just one of saxy4c stakeholders

Will someone be kind enough to sketch the proof in crayons so that our dear brother can see the evidence?

beejaay:
for the record i joined the challenge with 100$ at the first run ( not because i needed the money but much more like an experiments to see how its gonna be done ) to see if he will be the first to break over a very important law of probability but alas he failed and left after the first try cos i knew the second one will also fail.. he would have done it probably if it was just a closet trust worthy members without much expectation and less pressure cos his integrity wont be at stake and there wont be much threat of aggressiveness...

instead of outright name calling and unnecessary confrontation, we should atleast look at all the fact and lash out at him appropriately so he can learn cos no one is beyond learning...i believe in him that he didnt mean to scam or defraud anyone buy he was just way over his head thinking he can librate poor and disempowered with little fund

Don't lie to yourself, you needed that money, your greed made you fall for the obvious scam.
Your kind of mentality is why i am into you.
So you joined the challenge and it failed.
You didn't find the decency to forewarn other victims not to join or call him out of his shortcomings
You kept mute,
All of a sudden, you have found your voice but this time trying play the angel's advocate for saxy4c
You should have remained mute dear friend,
Instead of trying to dwindle the voices of his next victims.

beejaay:
bros every profitable traders have different types of account...some for serious trading with detailed money management rules and some for adrenalin pumping where one can even use 1lot on a 100$ account...they mostly do this to avoid over trading on their main accounts as a result of boredom

i clearly understand that saxy money management on the challenge was beyond worst but that doesnt stop me from seeing the good in what he was trying to do albeit in a bad way..am not cynic so i look at things from all sides without taking sides

You really disappoint me even further,
The topic is not about his Money Management skills but is fraudulent tendencies.
Please go back and reread the comments again,but this time 50 pages back.

If you did, you will realise we actually even stopped talking about him and moving on.
But no, you just skimmed through some couple pages and feel you understand it all.

Englishisamust:
The only thing you add to this group is to make fun and blame saxy4c. Keep on doing this ,God will help you. 3 days ago u were not here but when it comes to saxy scandals you show face I don't know why some people are like this. You don't add anything to the thread the only thing you add is fight you are even worst than saxy4c. I hate people like you in real life.

Is this same you?
Instead of you facing the scammer whose propaganda has been foiled.
You are here facing me.
Comparing me to that fraudster is actually a very big insult to me.
I can't be offended by confused fellow. No offence though.

Pipsbasketings:
This proves to me that you never followed since the unveiling started on page 562. Now, find time to go back to page 562 before your next post

I'm really pissed at him right now,
He just feel the need to comment with having basic and founding knowledge of what have transpired.

beejaay:
i didnt know about these truly cos i hardly come here this days, i just decided to come here when i noticed the account have been blown to see people reaction...i will check back bros...am just talking based on what i know for now

You don fu.c.k up.
Abeg if you haven't read through previous post just FEM.
This is a moving train, you have to start a the train station first, you can't try boarding a train at full speed.

Your ignorance is very annoying even for an old timer who should know better

beejaay:
am not here to exchange banters with you but to set the record straight so the phrase "the kind of person you are acutally" is you looking for trouble which am not reeady for so please bros let keep it calm baba..

i followed the whole thing from the beginning and anyone with an open mind will access the trade taken and the psychology behind it instead of using a primordial sentiment of things....most of the trades he took were good trades but with a very very poor money managemenet (something he always preach against) but somehow he got greedy and felt he had something to prove to his followers and that was exactly what triggered the whole loss thing....what he failed to understand is that he has nothing to prove to anyone and the timeline he gave for the challenge is never sacrosant (in a bid to meet and over meet his target, he became greedy and extremely agressive thereby losing focus of the elephant in the room)

As someone who speaks from an open mind,
You clearly have too many assumptions to start with.
Firstly, you are not is PA or his conscience to know what he had be planning for you to be giving this level of accuracy.
If i am to be objective as you are, i would say, he had been copying someone else calls and posting here with the primary objective of defrauding people. Which happens to be the bigger and clearer picture now.
The detailed explanation on reading his mind clearly states you have same mind set or an accomplice.
Your view clearly state you support him.

Don't even get me started on you

Pipsbasketings:
I gave him this opportunity twice.
this fraudster blatantly lied he is Tim Lucas on my dm, again came here and still continued to blatantly lie he is Tim Lucas trading the account
I had a personal conversation with Lucas and how he ran away.

I have several other accounts and pictures (sent to me) with greens that this guy has sent to many others claiming he trades them.

Clearly the dude didn't read though the post,
Just redirect him to read 30 post back before commenting on this topic again.
Or maybe he just have issues with comprehension

beejaay:
he has never claimed to have found the holy grail and he has never denied making losses upon losses but he only believed in himslef and his method which mostly work for him but on this challenge, he over believed himself as a foltron and universe just teach him a very bitter lesson (i hope he learn from it and not get more deeper into it)

@saxy if you are here, pls accept your fuckup and apologise..forex humble us all eventually

Do you need receipts again
Because clearly it seems you missed quite a lot of receipts.
Just for a quick crash course.
I would share a few.

Please please please,
Or must he write it in crayons before you get the drift
Before you start posting, try and do your research.
As a trader that should be the you should do first before commenting carelessly

beejaay:
for the record i joined the challenge with 100$ at the first run (not because i needed the money but much more like an experiments to see how its gonna be done) to see if he will be the first to break over a very important law of probability but alas he failed and left after the first try cos i knew the second one will also fail.. he would have done it probably if it was just a closet trust worthy members without much expectation and less pressure cos his integrity wont be at stake and there wont be much threat of aggressiveness...

instead of outright name calling and unnecessary confrontation, we should atleast look at all the fact and lash out at him appropriately so he can learn cos no one is beyond learning...i believe in him that he didnt mean to scam or defraud anyone buy he was just way over his head thinking he can librate poor and disempowered with little fund

He is learning not at his expense but the detriment of other people.
Kind of indirectly describe the kind of person you are actually

beejaay:
the guy is actually a good trader.. he just got too aggressive with that copy trading challenge..he had a good heart to help and i have never seen him ask anyone for help.. i have learnt one or two things from him and we have had one or two tantrums thrown at each other, but this whole fiasco against him is uncalled for...he is actually a very good trader but didnt know when to stand aside.. the very nature of help is destruction on a personal level, the universe work in a way that you get quenched if you trying to showoff too much

I'm about curious,
What's your definition of a good trader?

Trustrade:
Thank God you still have some people on the telegram group or maybe you're in the group either just search for alpari, I believe it is one dharmiee or so that posted it. You can check it out

Since you have done that already,
Why can't you share it?
I don't understand.