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egift:
What rule? I did not see them stating any rule that was not followed.

According to them, the defendants, including the APC, among others, did not comply with the provisions of Article 20 of the constitution of the party and the regulations of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) in the conduct of the primaries.


Did you not read that line, anyway the case is in court and the caricature pictures of aspirant meeting Fashola will soon be a hoarse.

biafranqueen:
Progress indeed!

Progressive agitating against 18,000 minimum pay for workers because the president passed the bill against their wish.

Nigeria Workers, don't be too shy to identify who your real enemies are:

see them below:

omenka:
@ Bolded 1.


@ Bolded 2.

The minimum wage is a LAW and your submission is like saying it is okay to break the law!! Laws are meant to be upheld by governments and they are not supposed to be told that upholding or flouting the is their prerogative!

@Bolded 3.
By the way, I didn't say they want to take it back to N7,000. I only said the law was to be removed/amended.


@ Bolded 4.

Absolutely untrue. It wasn't done in good faith. If the president had wanted to do what is right and fair to all civil servants, he should have made the increment based on a percentage and not some fixed figure!! Imagine it were a percentage, FG workers would have been taking home over N24,000 as minimum wage!!! Do you see my point?? Given what he did, states are to pay over 100% increase whereas the FG is to pay a mere 5.56%!! What manner of logic or "good faith" is this??



By the way, I'm am absolutely pro workers. But I'm against such injustices. The states must be allowed to negotiate on their own terms. All states don't receive thesame allocations from the FG and the FG which happens to be the richest of all the levels of govt is the one paying the least increment.

1. when you said 20 states have refused to pay, it's different from the reports that says not fully implemented, they are two different meaning.

Well over 20 State Governments have practically
failed to[b] fully implement [/b]the N18,000 National
Minimum Wage for public sector workers nearly
two years after the minimum wage bill was
signed into law.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/poor-implementation-mars-national-minimum-wage/136375

2. FOI Bill passed by GEJ, was it not a law, how many states have domesticate the FOI bill ? Not even the claimed progressive state, rather Fashola approached the court against the domestication.
Lagos States not bound to domesticate FoI law – they would rather made a tailored suit law.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/states-not-bound-to-domesticate-foi-law-lagos-ag/

omenka:
By the way, I'm am absolutely pro workers. But I'm against such injustices. The states must be allowed to negotiate on their own terms. All states don't receive the same allocations from the FG and the FG which happens to be the richest of all the levels of govt is the one paying the least increment.

Looking at the unemployment rate in the country, are you saying there should be no bases of judgment and benchmark for both state and private sector.

The president have passed the bill to law and every state and private sector must ensure compliance.

Message: GEJ increased workers take home by passing the minimum wage bill.


Every other factor(s) is debatable and relative.

E&OE

THE dust generated by the conduct of the governorship primaries in the Lagos State chapter of All Progressives Congress (APC) is far from settling down, as a Federal High Court sitting in Lagos has fixed January 16 for hearing in a suit filed by aggrieved members of the party.

Mr Akinwunmi Ambode had won the primaries, defeating 11 other aspirants that contested the seat with him, but the aggrieved members, including Mr Femi Oluwatosin, had, in the suit number FHC/L/1857/14, sought the order of the court to invalidate the primaries held on December 4, on account that the party did not comply substantially with laid down rules.

According to them, the defendants, including the APC, among others, did not comply with the provisions of Article 20 of the constitution of the party and the regulations of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) in the conduct of the primaries.

Giving his ruling on Friday, Justice A. Yunusa ordered that other defendants who were not in court be served and that the suit would be given accelerated hearing.

The case was, therefore, adjourned till January 16.

Two governorship aspirants, Mr Tokounbo Wahab and Dr Leke Pitan, were represented by their lawyers, Mr Kola Dare and Mr Olawale Salu, respectively, at the hearing.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/top-stories/item/24849-court-orders-apc-aspirants-to-appear-jan-16-over-lagos-gov-slot

Aiyekooto:
I am trying to make sense of your piece but just couldn't.
In your myopic mind, you think it is right for everybody to hawk their wares recklessly on the streets without check. That to you is bad governance, abi?

You talked about how many were killed through the ban of okada on the highways, do you care to know how many lives were saved?

Beyond your thoughts, these are security measures taken by government that enables you and I live a near crime free life we live in Lagos. Do you know those your gala boys carry guns in their pack and some of them are informants to the robbers in traffic. They either attack you or signal the attacker from a distance.

Be honest with yourself, haven't crime perpetrated by okada vanished since the ban?
And lastly, ask anybody around Bourdillon, this is how Tinubu gives every festive period. My office is in Ikoyi, and we experience heavy traffic due to mammoth crowd that partake.

The truth is bitter.

My post will never make sense to you because you have closed your mind to the truth.

How sure are you that all those arrested by Lagos KAI hawk their wares recklessly on the streets ?

Thanks to the ban, many lives were saved, why now relaxed the rule because election is coming ?

gala boys carry guns in their pack, and what measure were introduced by Lagos State government to checkmate crime, where is the bogus CCTV viewing center displayed here sometime ago by Ekoile, where is the choppers bought to patrol the state against crime, all disappear like the 8 Billion Naira yacht

This is how Tinubu gives every festive period, YES! because their is much poverty in the land.

Get the logic brother, we cannot continue like this.


A government that steal in billions and give a return of few thousands...

May God deliver Nigeria.

omenka:
Records show compliance of 90% when well over 20 states have defaulted on implementation What in God's name are you talking about?

And like I said, the rubbish was done in very bad faith. The FG knew the states were gonna be the ones bearing the brunt of the law given that state workers were receiving very low minimum wages (5000 - 8000) and would have their pay increased by over 100%, whereas the FG's workers would have theirs increase by a paltry 5.56% (17000 - 18000)!!! What greater injustice is there to the states than this??

And by the way, do you guys even realise the damn law is being struck out under the current constitution amendment due to its innumerable drawbacks??

Are you anti-workers or pro-workers in this your submission?

How did you arrived at your 20 states defaulting? Which are the states?

Irrespective of the state of mind as the time of passing the bill, a standard have been set, it now depends on each state wish to comply or not to.

Well, I am not aware the constitution amendment is reverting the minimum wages back to 7,000 from its current 18,000 which workers are agitating against already.

GEJ passing the minimum wage bill, was done in good faith to support the Nigerian workers, who toil under heavy burden of Nigeria working condition.

18,000 Naira per month is equal $107 per month gross (Inclusive of taxes and compulsory deduction)

N:B: The minimum wages is a pointer and benchmark to government and private sector employers.

deji68:
Ok oooo .....naa Londoner go vote Ambode wetin Alimosho people go come dey do , i hope they all have their Voters card sha... i dey laugh in Egun

Leave them do dey decisive themselves

Even Obama go come Lagos come vote.

Lagosians do not be decisive again with media propaganda of APC

omenka:
Your sarcasm fell flat buddie. Go back and respond to what I posted.

I bet you must have read it and don't just know how to respond to it. I don't even wanna start with the op. He doesn't have even the slightest of what it takes to engage me.

In response to your post:

The Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC) has listed
the defaulting states as Anambra, Ebonyi, Plateau, Kwara, Kebbi, Niger, Osun, Enugu and Zamfara.

It accused the states of failing to complete talks with the Joint Public Service Negotiation Council (JPSNC) on the implementation of the N18,000 national minimum wage....

Sadly, workers under the employ of Enugu, Zamfara, Niger and Ebonyi state governments are yet to be paid the new wage despite pressure from labour.

According to your quoted submission few states in Nigeria are yet to fully implement the minimum wage, however the pressure base on the signed bill by the president have pushed the compliance to 90% which is a success story to the President and the Nigeria workers.

The message the OP is passing is very basic who "Increased the minimum wage from 7,000 to 18,000 Naira"

The next question would now be what is the compliance level? which records have shown to be 90%.

omenka:
Watch this space.

Now,

This is particularly in response to firefire's post regarding stats about minimum wage paid by APC states.

Here are some general info and stats for yall.



Now look at the bolded and tell me how many APC states are there and how many PDP's are there.

Again..



The Thisday report is particularly damning!!

First, it shows the FG pushed for the implementation of the minimum wage in very bad faith. Workers had been receiving over N17, 000 and all she needed to do was add a paltry 0.01% to take it to the stipulated minimum wage leaving the states with the hot end of the rod!!!!!!! This is a complete 419 if you ask me.

Besides that, even with the insignificant increment, they still couldn't fully do the implementation yet someone wants to come here and cast aspersions on APC states and giving Jonathan undue credit for what is in fact a colossal injustice to the states!!

When next you people want to throw jibes, do your homework properly before going public.

I see, it was not there before...

atlwireles:
It must happen in 2015..

By God's Grace!

I am working towards getting a confirmed and written statement from GEJ, promising what his plans are for coming years if given another opportunity of four years.

omenka:
Guys go back to page one and do yourselves a favour at my response.

These Jonathanians are simply [b]too basic [/b]for my liking.

We only work at the basic level until required to move to advance stage. ( A message the general public could get easily)


What advance stage are you looking at sir ?

atlwireles:
Never Never Never , I was never in support of the minimum wage increase and rescinding, the removal of petrol subsides. My two disappointments.

yeah,

But full deregulation and transparency on the part of subsidy removal could save Nigeria in coming days.

Many states governors, including APC state are against the minimum wage:

“These governors who don’t want to pay 18,000 minimum wage, they are the ones using private jets. They even have private terminals now, for themselves.

“Also, the same governors have minimum pay for themselves” he said, noting that the same applied to senators.

“There’s a minimum pay for all of them so why do you want to apply this double standard to the working people. I think it’s ill-informed. It’s an abuse of trust

- I. Aremu

“If you don’t have minimum wage in place, some employers, especially private sector (here we are talking of some Asian employers)- they will pay graduates, whether they are polytechnic or university graduates – N5,000.



“I think the whole idea is you must have minimum floor below which no worker will earn and the same thing applies for minimum hours of work.”


- The Vice President, Nigeria Labour Congress, Isa Aremu

chamboy:
I knw na, buh u sabi. Na

so if you know, why are you finding it difficult to support the fresh air ?

Or you want us to go back to Babylon

WhiteTechnology:
This present structure has reduced our States to almajiri states.

how ?

olaide721:
Be sincere with all what u will be written her so that the GOD of dirty slap will not visit u this season
Those the KAI pple chased are they in the shop or by the road side? Not even road side sef on railway lane haba u ursef think nah is that Ok?
Well we are not surprise we ought to have enemy of infrastructure

Rest in Peace to many okada men killed by your progressive government just to turn round to relax the rule because election is round the corner.


Continue...

God is watching you all.

chamboy:
Tanist can dance around this thread, me wan go sleep...

Good nite friend,

in your dream remember GEJ was the one that increase minimum wage

in your dream remember GEJ was the one that increase NYSC allowee

sweet dream

atlwireles:
Unfortunately government spending never comes down. That's why, we should only increase spending, when the economic and social payoffs are tangible.

I get all your points, unfortunately the only source of funding to the government is IGR & Federal Allocation.

But what happens to the drive to increase IGR?

Kenai:
He stabilized the global oil price by "Foiting Kworropshun" at OPEC.
Please vote him next year, guys. He will do it again.

Sai Buhari!

I beg now, let face this topic joor

atlwireles:
We did not have the money in 2011 to increase civil servants salaries. One of the main reason, the budget carries a 76% recurrent expenditure quota today. It was great politics, but very bad public policy. One of the two disappointments, Goodluck gave me

I get your point now.

But the government can as well reduce other expenditures, increase their IGR, reduce security votes to meet the workers salary.

SirHouloo:
GEJ is a silent achiever.... Northerners no go just gree say make he work ni. Most of what they ve spoilt is being resuscitated in his tenure.

The truth of the matter is GEJ performed more than any president in recent time...

atlwireles:
I was against this policy in 2011 and I'm still against it today. I have to give it to NOI, for implementing it, without the level of pain and chaos, I feared in 2011.

I don't understand your lines sir ?

Osun State:

The state government has dragged Osun State workers to the National Industrial Court (NIC) over the minimum wage. It has already secured an injunction against strike being planned by workers. It is also seeking, among other things, that court declares payment of N18, 000 minimum wage to all categories of workers, especially those earning more than N18, 000, illegal.

This is a government that employed 20, 000 youths under the Osun State Youth Employment Scheme (OYES) with poor wages (less than N10, 000 monthly); with no right to unionize or any hazard benefit; even when the labour law compels every employer of over 50 workers to pay minimum wage, and regularize such employment.


http://www.socialistnigeria.org/page.php?article=1990

Acidosis:
Someone should please remind me...

Is Lagos State paying the minimum wage

Comrade Alade Basahir Lawal, the Union expressed surprise that the Lagos State Governor who paraded himself as a progressive had continued to wage war against the N18,000 National Minimum Wage approved by the Federal Government in 2011.

http://leadership.ng/news/369055/labour-condemns-fashola-opposition-minimum-wage

What is the minimum wage paid by APC states to her workers

Lagos

Ogun

Osun

Oyo

Edo

etc



Time to find data...

Senate approves N18,000 national minimum wage

ABUJA — THE Senate has approved the N18,000 new national minimum wage for workers proposed by President Goodluck Jonathan.

The bill was given an expeditious passage as the Senate suspended order 79 of its standing rules to amend the National Minimum Wage Act, thus increasing the minimum wage from N7,500 to N18,000

Senator Smart Adeyemi, PDP, Kogi who was also in support of the new wage said it will be unrealistic for some state governments to claim that they cannot pay the new wage.

He said, “I want to disagree that it will be practically impossible for some state governments to pay. We have more resources to pay, states in Nigeria are richer than some of the states in West Africa, so they can pay.

“The problem is mismanagement of resources and corruption. People divert money from this country to abroad for selfish gains. I hold the strong view that N18000 is not enough.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/02/senate-approves-n18000-national-minimum-wage/

The One and only person... GEJ

is Tunubu now TB Joshua

Poverty knows no religion; it has no tribal mark; poverty is poverty because it affects every one of us.

When the state government through many inhuman policies make it difficult for the citizen of the state to put food on their own table.

KAI brigade have sent many market women to prison for trading in Lagos

Many Okada men have been killed through the mean ban been enforced by the police

If the people cannot afford to eat even during Christmas, how will they afford to send their children to school in Lagos

Lagosians, don't be decisive by this Greek gift, it will not last, and it is just a fraction from the lots seized from you.

Time to take and possess your possession is here.

Let us see as the matter progresses.

Nigeria Manager's, time to seat right and do the right thing.