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triplechoice:
Calling someone ignorant doesn't make them that.

The claims you originally made ,which you're now trying to deflect from are listed below;

1. Africans were 'immersed' in homosexuality.
2. Africa was a hotbed of homosexuality.
3. King Mwaga 11, was the first prominent African to be openly gay.

The first two, I said were very wild claims, while the last one is misleading.

To be immersed in something, means to be engrossed in an activity without attention given to anything else ,nothing else matters.

Unfortunately,you haven't succeeded in proving that Africans were fully focused in homosexuality before the coming of the whites or christianity. You made the mistake of using the wrong descriptive word to describe what happened back then.

If it were true Africans were immersed in homosexuality in the past, then it would be readily observed everywhere and not just in some few remote locatons.

What of your own community? Are you not an African, where you are from? Were your people not focused on homosexuality too? Why don't you start from there and let's see if someone from the same community as yours would not come to challenge you.

A Yoruba person who's closer home and is well informed about the history and culture of his own people as come to say homosexuality is alien to the Yorubas. But you rejected it even when you're not Yoruba yourself or know much about their culture

To the number 2, In the context in which you have used the word ,hotbed, you actually meant that before the coming of Christianity to Africa, our societies were a breeding ground for homosexuality, meaning our environment favours and encourages homosexual relationship. This claim of yours is from your imagination and it's simply because you don't know the actual meaning of the word , hotbed and the other one immersed., both which really means the same thing.

Homosexuals, those in same sex relationship, don't procreate at all. Anal or lesbian sex doesn't lead to
procreation. Heterosexuals, are the only ones capable of reproducing sexually in any human community.

So, if it were true Africa was the hotbed of homosexuality and we were immersed in it, how come the population back then continue to increase to the extent slaves were being ' exported' to different parts of the word without a marked decrease in population size?

Theory of Evolution says, if a group is not actively reproducing sexually the consequence will be a drastic reduction in its population size.


You brought in modern day India as proof that a country whose citizens are mostly homosexual will not have its population reduced.

But you failed to provide any data for those engaged in same sex relationship in that country to aid accurate interpretation of happenings there. It was another failed attempt to use deceptive argument to wriggle yourself out of the tight corner your lies has placed you in.
There's no evidence India is a breeding ground for homosexuality or that they're immersed in it as you want people to believe. You continue to lie without shame

Now to the final one, I reject the tag of king Mwaga 11 as the first prominent African who was 'openly gay'. That description is a product of gay propoganda.
There are no evidences the King displayed that lifestyle openly .
Mwanga 11 was married to different women who produced many children for him, yet you want people to believe he wasn't interested in women . I'm willing to accept, at this time he probably had anal sex with the boys, but it still doesn't make him openly gay. Gay men don't marry many women.
The article you referenced says Mwanga was probably bisexual and was involved in anal sex. Homosexuality and bisexuality are not exactly the same kind of sexual orientation, but you continue to blur the lines deliberately.

Two reasons I suspect you still continue to insist the king was openly homosexual ,despite the fact he was married to women are,

1. The false assumption that people are born gay. There's no adequate scientific support for that belief anywhere. My apologies if this offends you. Are you gay? So I can confirm from your own personal experience what it means to be really born gay.

2. Your mind has been taken over by gay propoganda and you can no longer think for yourself concerning the issue. Most of the site you reference are owned by people with vested interest. You failed to carry out adequate background check on those sites or corraborate from elsewhere what its contained there. As long as they support your claims, you just copy it and paste on Nairaland.

Let's hear your own thoughts on the matter first, before providing support for them.

You want me to educate myself because according to you 'your ignorance is cancerous'

You made the claim that 'adofuro' in Yoruba was
coined because homosexuals were they first to have anal sex. And without substantiating it yourself, you now want me to educate myself on something that doesn't exist ?I

You made the claim and the onus lies on you to prove it beyond reasonable doubt. Not me. Take your advice and go and educate yourself first .

You see how you have sadly shot yourself in the foot .You cannot provide evidence for your clams, but you derive pleasure on this board from taunting others for failure to prove their beliefs.

It's said that, those who are truly knowledgeable are loath to call others ignorant, while those who are intoxicated with the little they know are quick to label others as ignorant.

I'm done with you. I don't have time to read wayward copy and paste articles.

Ain't this something but not surprised,a bigot will always be a bigot and please don't tell me to cite any sources because it's already obvious you will be unwilling to accept the truth as the debate will be dead on arrival and to even make your stupidity more stunning,he cited sources but you went on a hate tirade to avoid the truth without citing one source. Go suck Massa's dick

YoungCabal:
Your argument is very easy to switch around. You are neglecting the fact that Saudi Arabia is a "muslim country" unlike Uganda that is a "mixed religious country" with different tribes, you can easily say Saudi Arabia are following their Holy book but not in the case of Uganda where few individuals sit down to make choices for the masses. Before that law is put in place, there has to have been some sets of persons practicing homosexuality in Uganda so, it could easily be quoted by the U.S as an attempt to suppress the voices of certain individuals.

Personally, I'm even beginning to suspect that it's a trick by Uganda to make it easier for Ugandans to be granted asylum in the U.S, let's be honest, how many times have you heard on the news that a homosexual has been beaten or killed in Uganda ? If they hated homosexuality that much, we would have seen it in mob action. Don't mind those people, they know what they are doing

At the bolded,you don't live in Uganda so you can never know,you can make your own research about news like that

Lamanii22:
I can’t even raise my kids there, America used to be a country I would love to reside but as it is now i don’t admire it anymore…. It’s even more scary when they are forcing lgbtq down children’s throat 😏😏😏

No one asked you,raise your kids in the hellhole you call a country

ednut1:
in life Rich people and poor people dont have same rights. Also rich/ powerful nations have different rules for poor ones.
See trade relations below for USA and Saudi. What does Uganda have that is of value to USA.
USA or the west are in no position to tell Uganda what to do with gays. Make dem mind their business, the gays in uganda can apply for asylum to enter Usa

Uhhhh....the USA isn't imposing anything,afterall it's a sovereign nation,they just don't want anything to do with them. Shikena!!!

koladata:
I don't understand why americans can't do their gay thing in peace without bringing other countries into it

LoL,they are not forcing anyone in your country to accept it,they just don't want anything to do with y'all,get it? At least now, Uganda will focus more on their corrupt nation

Uglyman029:
USA says it may impose sanctions on Uganda, after the Parliament passed a law that makes being a gay person punishable with up to 10 years in prison.

Relatives, friends and community members are obliged to report gay people.

Gay sex is punishable with up to life in prison.

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Help us balance this. There are States in the same USA with anti gay law, but USA impose sanction on countries she consider less powerful. Powerful Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia have the same anti gay law, but USA doesn't impose sanction and will never impose her laws on them, rather USA respect them. Look at what happen during the world cup in Qatar.

Untill we start having sense as Africans, we will always be controlled like this.

It's obvious you didn't read the bill in Uganda but you just wanna bitch and moan like the bigot you are.

First and foremost,the bill will imprison anyone who identifies as LGBTQ+,notice the word "identity",not even caught in the "act". When signed,it will make it illegal for anyone to say they are gay....in the middle east and even GCC countries, there's no law against identity as LGBTQ+,just don't be caught in the act or fight for their rights,so now do you understand the difference and why they are sanctioning them and not the middle east?

siofra:
So judge salary is not enough for him

Disgusting, perverted dog. This is what happens when you don't train your sons well

God, I feel like throwing up🤮🤢

Useless olosho like his fellow men on nairaland.

Stop shaming sex work,we are no longer in the 50s

IamtheTruth1:
" Him drinking the contents of a used condom..."

This one na haywire

If a straight man wants to get on OF,you will have to appeal to gay men because they are the majority of your audience,you will rarely have female fans even straight male pornstars know the drill and what these gay men will tell you to do......is insane,some will tell you to video yourself taking a shit

Vatod:
No worries I will keep updating the story! But I believe this is a beginning of new era and an end to one career

If you are ready to appeal to gay men because women will rarely pay to see you even straight pornstars like johnny sins and Jason luv says majority of their fans are male,they just will never shoot gay porn but they make themselves the focus of the camera instead of the women like straight porn does

Ireportlive:
Am sure he has no regrets.... Many women would subscribe to him and make him millions

Women rarely subscribe to only fans when they know they can get it for free, it's mostly gay men subscribing to men's only fans even straight men on only fans shoot their videos to appeal to gay men like allowing the camera to show them instead of the women. Straight pornstars on OF appeal to gay men like Jason Luv who is straight but majority of his fans are 90% men

Wodu89:
You're uneducated. Allow me educate you, just like serving a spouse divorce doesn't automatically mean it will be granted as it would be subjected to court hearing and a divorce can be turned down. Same way is such a statement detrimental to any advantages this woman may want to lay claim for or on.


Should the court in future see this statement, it will be decided against her interest that any divorce she may seel was with sick intent and she won't get access to a pin.


Go and google how American courts did the same in the case of a woman who felt she and her husband were old and past prime. Hurriedly pushed for divorce served the husband papers declaring the part of his $1 Billion dollar weath she wanted, properties and monthly settlement.


Try gave her nothing, the same way Psquare brothers stvpid wife in us was giving nothing.


Nothing is always the heritage of greedy woman with such intent


I end my comment with this, why should any female including my daughter want to boldly lay claim to half the husband's property just by marriage. It should be by mutual contribution to the development of that wealth, not by association.



Thank you. Alot of people think divorce in a marriage is as simple as walking out the door. That's a Nollywood fallacy


You have access to wealth by contribution not by association

Well it's women consolation prize for living in the Patrichy,they didn't make the rules....men made the rules,until men start seeing women as their equal in all ramifications,this mentality will continue

CodeTemplar:
OP is a high level pootin worshipper.

And the mods are even more stupid for bringing it to the fp,what the hell?

sojayy:
Those people are brain washed, there's nothing u can do to change their mind immediately they've accepted to join. Thank ur star say u japa. Na d waka inside d hot sun n rain dey vex me pass.

I heard it's like a cult

Massiveglory:
If Nigeria will come out of this election with any thing to unite about and build on, the mandate of the rightful winner of the presidential must be restored.

This is only means to gather the fragements of our nation which has been scattered.

This is the only means to hold and build on the foundation of our nation which is heavily shaking right now.

Meh!!!! I so admire you but it's already a lost carcass, nothing can salve the meat anymore

BlackAdam65:
wisdom has been chasing you but you have always been faster

Says the guy using religion as a justification for hate

Mercury12:
do you know in the days of old they were burnt on a stake just like they burn witches when caught or banish from the community to avoid the wrath of God on the land?
My brother. Get yourself a wife and quit such pathetic lifestyle

Do you know in the old days,you and your kinds had no rights and were seen as lesser than the white man because of your so called "good book" that was used to enslave you?
As for the bolded,you obviously don't know what love is because if someone knew what genuine love is,sex will be the last thing on their mind,no wonder you Nigerians get married without chemistry and are miserable in the relationship with no feeling of romance whatsoever

BlackAdam65:
well i wont insult you after all you have every right to be stupid

You already did with your first comment so nothing new, it's what I expect from the face of bigotry

Mercury12:
Pathetic. What is wrong with these gay people sef. They really deserve to be shoot at sight

Lead the charge,I'm sure you fellow bigots will line with you

BlackAdam65:
well i dont know who gave birth to you but the person should have swallowed you

Nah,they are not filled with hate and bigotry like you

akosy:
One is sure. You can't cheat nature. Na Dem go face d pandemic. Let every moral Nation keep to their standard.

Like that shithole you live in

BlackAdam65:
Its funny how homosexuals mistake their lust for love

It's funny how you mistake your ignorance for knowledge

As much as I love Miles morales,the game was way too short so that and GTA 5 because I never cared about it to play it

Nia69:
Lmao. 😂😂

They always seem to forget lol

Yamiriflathead:
Yes, the same way they brought homosexuality too and sending gays to prison here instead of normalizing and integrating the act. Oloshi!

Exactly,same way they brought Christianity to enslave y'all

shegz24:
Sooner or Later , the girl will ask about her father.

Some straight men are doing the same thing,not a bad thing,she will tell her the truth

Yamiriflathead:
Is the child a BASTARD? Yes or NO?
You think you can import Western Nonesense to Africa without consequences?

And who brought the term "bastard"? Wasn't it the west?

Eriokanmi:
Hmmm. No need to collect his fertiliser too, to fertilise your eggs. What about that? When the time is right, you'd realise how important your child's father is, by the time your child begins troubling you, asking for his/her father. It's then you'd know you're just a Foster mum

As long as a child is brought up with love, that's all that matters. As for the bolded,you can tell the child the truth but I get where you are coming from, there are straight men doing this too but they never bash women as the reason,they just wanna be single parents, the gender wars should please end

BenzEne1:
The fact you want matured minds to comment on this shows how fvcked up you are.
Woke girls .... Sorry for una

Men are literally doing the same thing as they wanna play around without commitment,the world is already,sorry your generation is dying but it's literally no one's fault

TheNiceGuy:
You'll understand at old age

Nope, there are straight men doing the same thing and it's protected by law. As long you give a child love, that's the only thing that matters

Yamiriflathead:
If we don't Shame her and her child, others will follow suit. This is Africa not Europe

And a child without a father here is a BASTARD!

Wow buddy,this is Africa....we shouldn't be using phones too,go back to dead ages where you belong

georgeakins:
But it is expensive.
How many ladies can afford that?

Men also do the same thing, mostly gay men though

Houseontherock1:
Wow! Never knew she had a baby

Yep, it's via surrogacy. She didn't carry the child but it's her eggs