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Truthseeker10:
Please define consciousness.

So do humans have consciousness? If yes, do we have Freewill?


So Angels who are robot who could not choose to obey God or disobey him had no consciousness? If yes, when did they begin to have consciousness?

To awake from something means to be conscious… either you were sleeping and woke up or you suddenly awoke into having a deeper understanding of something.

Yes humans does have free will…

Here’s where it gets interesting, humans doesn’t need to be awake to make use of their free will but for angels they only became awake or conscious but doesn’t have free will

That’s why I explained earlier that the angels became awake of their true existence but each maintaining that obedience because it’s in their dna to be obedient to their different cause, whether good angel or evil angel


That’s why I always tell people that bad exist to compliment good… they’re both the same with different polarity. If you’re in the good side and examine the other side(evil side) you’ll say that the evil side is totally evil

Same way if you’re created evil and you’re on the evil side, when you examine the good side, you will see the good sides as the wrong side because you don’t have any good in you.

God knew all these in order to strike a balance, because evil compliments good. Good makes you know that evil is bad especially if you’re good.

While evil makes you know that evil is the right thing especially when you are evil.

That’s why I laugh when people say “why can’t God destroy lucifer?

He can but he won’t because lucifer is serving a divine purpose in the creation,

Decamping to serve the interests of northern masses

I laugh in Agulu language

Truthseeker10:
So the question still stands.
If Angels don't have Freewill, can they choose either o obey God or disobey him?

When a robot’s consciousness is awakened, the question of free will becomes obsolete because it overrides every command that makes it a one way wired entity, it becomes aware that there are absolute possibility of options to explore and choose from…

Being an entity that was still young to free will, those fallen angels will likely trust one that woke them and believe whatever logic that was presented in front of them. Unlike when they weren’t aware there were other options to explore.

The good angels too tasted that consciousness but the difference was that the good angels were never created to possess anything evil inside them, so that was the mistake lucifer made, he thought he could make all the angles revolt against God, rather that consciousness made the good angels defend themselves against the evil ones, that’s the first battle that was ever fought.

They defeated the bad angels because the good angels are much in number and stronger too.

Mind you, Archangel Michael have other angels in his category, but he was the one in charge when it comes to battle, they have thousands of archangels that are created for Battle, they only understand Battle because that’s the purpose of their existence.

So to answer your question, when an angel becomes conscious, that’s when it understands better the purpose of its existence and follow it to the later.

A conscious person can choose to become evil suddenly and may be after some time decides to become a good person again.

But in angels, if you don’t have evil in your program when you were made, you cannot become evil even after becoming conscious, so you cannot convince a good angel to become evil, neither can you turn an evil angel to become good. They’ve different code lines.

They don’t exist out of choice, they’re robots and are made to obey all the time whether you’re an evil angel or a good angel.

Truthseeker10:
So if angels don't have Freewill, How can they either obey God or disobey him?

When you build a robot that can do everything you ask but you remove the robot ability to have a mind of its own, it can’t question your decision, … will you say the robot have a will of its own because it obeys every of your command?

Ok

Cherrybae:
What's her name. The news is not sweet or complete without her names.

Op pls drop her name.

But her pix looks like one from Agulu Anambra state

I can bet with your womb if you still have one that you don’t know the state and village our president,
President Bola Tinubu hails from?

If you want to fully understand how women come into a man’s life, you’ll need to analyse this current incidence.

US president have asked all those stealing US citizenship through childbirth to go back to their homeland, this Nigerian Hen decided to go ahead with her plan, she was caught and deported, I’m surprised she’s not crying that it was injustice, If you desire foreign citizenship badly, go to Ukraine or Russia,

So what did she go there to do after knowing that Trump has stopped those citizenship through birth nonsense

Foolish hen, this is how they plan to plant themselves into a man’s life by all means. Women don’t use eyes to see green pasture, that’s why I pity men that are broke and saying their woman is loyal and doesn’t care about material things… pray make Lamborghini dicck no drill her hole

EmperorIsaac:
You can't comprehend spiritual matters with mere common sense and logic!

This is the problem with overzealous Christians like you, if I had written this during the time the bible was written, will you have the audacity to say what you just said, but because you know I’m your fellow black man, God cannot reveal some divine truth to me Abi ?


I’m not surprised at your comment, but point of correction, I’m not ordinary my brother

The devil was only created to do evil, that’s the problem he has with God, that was his divine purpose of existence, the devil never liked that job description because he felt it wasn’t fair.

So he wasn’t meant to gain consciousness to the point of questioning his purpose, that’s why he was termed “Rebellious “. Take for example, your superior at your work place gives you an instruction to carry out, which you have been doing in the past in obedience but this particular day he gives you similar instructions and you asked him/her

“what’s the purpose of doing this task? “….

You’ll notice that from that moment, your superior’s countenance will become different towards you and when you repeat similar act, he/she sees you as a problem and sees you as becoming rebellious and always questioning his or her orders.


These were exactly the case between God and lucifer, and something led to it, and it’s called “ over familiarity “, lucifer was God’s most beloved angel, because he was the one doing the dirty work for God… God is holy and cannot be involved directly in anything evil, but he can do evil by proxy using lucifer, which was what lucifer started questioning.

How’s is lucifer God most beloved angel, he knows the dirty work he has been doing as a result of God’s instructions, so it’s always very easy to bring in someone that knows how dangerous you’re closer so that you can always checkmate him or her and also because you both understand how important and dangerous the information and some secrets the person possesses. This is why lucifer felt like he knew God more than other angels and the thing that made him God, but that’s just a grain of salt information when compared to the complexity of God.

Lucifer only knew the bad side of God but didn’t know the loving, good and caring side of God because he wasn’t created for such and he longed so much for it, he can only pretend to enforce the good side but it doesn’t last, the evil side takes over immediately and dominates, that’s why the devil can be caring, loving, but it’s temporary, it’s all enclosed and packaged in deceit because it’s not in his making to be good,

Take a programmed robot as an example, the robot suddenly gains consciousness, but despite his new acquired consciousness, it’s not able to override the program which it was designed, it ends up doing the developer’s bidding.

That’s what the devil experiences, that’s why the devil doesn’t see God as all loving, because he felt it’s against his will.

Note : Angels don’t have free will, if you’re created to be a dancing angel for God’s amusement, that’s what you will be doing in default, you as an angel doesn’t have a choice, all you must do is obey.


This free will was given to humans, that’s why lucifer became angry and filled himself with rage towards humans because Humans was God’s favourite in all his creation,

Lucifer seeing that God loves humans and cared for them, always available for them that multiplied his rage.


Next he went to other angels that do similar job like him and woke their consciousness, it was easy for him because those angels were already evil but obedience, but due to his cunning skill, he only needed to trigger them into being disobedience, those angels were already evil like lucifer by default, but they were obedient to God, so lucifer was able to make them disobey God, and they became rebellious, giving lucifer the number he needed to get God attention.


The good angels it was difficult because by default they were good, so tricking them to join him was a waste of time, so that was where the war started cooking.



God made all evil angels leave heaven, they fell short of God’s Grace…. That’s where the concept of

“Fallen Angels “ came from.


Those rebellious angels lost all privileges, since all was orchestrated by lucifer, he led them away waiting for the day of final hearing, until then Lucifer have been busy.

S/Africans are racist, they’re practicing racism against Elon Musk a black man

Ok

The funny thing is that Doyin chapter has closed but some people want to continue dragging him back with arguments, allow the man rest in piece for crying out loud

Hmmm

Hmmm

Hmmm

Scammers everywhere … if Hushpuppy decides to gift another scammer Rolls Royce, it doesn’t make any difference, let these pulpit bandits get employed work from 8 to 5, and get paid 70k at month end, let me see the hand they’ll use to dash their fellow man 5k

It’s always easy to gift your fellow scammer a gift because you both know you scammed your followers

Ok

The hospital is in Gaza, it got bombed that’s why.

The hospital was in Gaza, it got bombed that’s why.

RootsHQ:
see logic.
So oshiomhole, mu azu, ganduje, wike and all of them that efcc didn't go after are saint? Lol
Obi was caught in the Pandora papers stacking money in his kids and wife name.
Obi never denied it all he said was "i never knew i was supposed to declare assests i co owned with other people"

Who are the people he co owned the companies with, his teenage kids lol.

So you are this learned and yet you’re not EFCC chairman, you think if obi was guilty, Apc wouldn’t have done the needful in 2023, continue hallucinating…

The truth remains that Obi did his homework very well, the same way jagaban did his homework before becoming president

Ok

Very nice, otedola really tried

debbydams:
don't be stupid..
I didn't mention your parent in my Conversations..

Oya don’t cry, just go and play with your mates outside

Women just need to get the right simp to achieve their goal… how many times do you see alpha males get down on their knees because of a woman?

Alpha males will come after you when you blackmail them, they bring the war to doorstop using your methods and rules

Season of Rape 2

Executive Producer: Nath Asha. Akpor

Directed by God Swill Awilo

DGN : Ronaldinho Meley

yarimo:
So peter obi married under age girl well done agulu fraudster

I was expecting you to verify if O monkey was correct about his own marriage but like always, you filtered out garbage and decided to quote content.

Reno biggest position he ever occupied and will occupy is same with a PA…. But still he knows that it’s just politics but here you’re showing how animosity have eaten you up.


I keep on hearing obi is a fraud but I’m yet to see EFCC go after him, or did he defraud your family. If truly obi was fraudulent, before you say jack, Buhari would’ve gone after him in 2023, so rest abeg.

The same thing I tell people saying Tinubu is a drug lord, what proof do you have, yes he forfeited some thousands of dollars here in the US but the case didn’t fly, his school saga came, that one didn’t fly,

Don’t say what you cannot prove when you’re invited, until they use one nairlander as a scapegoat others will not learn.

debbydams:
oya come collect award.. Arugbo ojo

Now we know who they got android phone for… don’t go and be useful to yourself and your parents Arugbo ojo

To know if you’re doing well, the easiest way to know is

If you die today, will people rejoice or will they be sad ?

I see a lot of happiness here, does it mean Okupe didn’t do well while alive?

From my observation, this animosity is done by 2 tribes in Nigeria,

The Yoruba tribe
The Igbo tribe


For peace to reign in Nigeria, one of these tribes need to leave, their animosity can no longer be tolerated.

You can hardly see an Hausa man hating on another tribe with great animosity

It’s a pity his battery finished during meeting.
RIP to him