₦airaland Forum

DWJOBScom:
i agree with you on people who are so religious but dishonor their obligations and sometimes neglect their families too. When you serve God truly with all your heart , you won't be down with that challenge as he is a holy God

about 95% of Nigerians are both Christians and Muslims yet how is the country are Americans close to God more than us Nigerians between USA and Nigerians who attend mosques and churches most...


why is their country doing better than ours...

this is another year...we should leave all these deceits and pretending to be covered by religious activities

Blackhawk03:
Huh! Deny what? Everyone knows I'm behind both monikers.

yes everyone knows you are the one but that resemblance is what I said you shouldn't deny...is this one in your DP you? the answer might surely be no...

Blackhawk03:
Tarh! How many of us have you seen?

blackhawk01 blackhawk03...keep it up...


you will always deny it...

but I will beat you in this new year

macmiral:
I know, not all men of God out there are real men of God, but what am saying is, nothing concerns FrZ with anything Spiritual, if he wants to establish his own ministry (freethesheeple ministry) he is free rather than criticizing men like adeboye and oyedepo)

The wrath of God may come on him anytime sooner

don't forget I too criticize... So don't know if the wrath is also coming to me but I tell you I will continue to say it a lot of these people are not God's chosen... they are only there for their pockets

DWJOBScom:
It's faith based and a relationship with God not pastors son. ".....and Daniel purposed in his heart not to have a portion of the king's meal" not because he didn't want the meal but he had a purpose and a relationship with God and watch how he was highly used by God. In the Acts of Aportles , people sold all that they had and brought it to the apostles' feet so it's isn't about emotions and All but purpose , faith and relationship

hahahahahaaa....as if we do no have faith and relationship with God...in my little environment have tongue lash some of my fellow Christians who parade themselves as special children of God...these set of people can attend every activities of church programs but look closely... they are the ones owing workers salary after making massive profit...they ensure that you don't do better than them either by getting close to the owner of the place where they work and gossip about others....they can lie in order to exploit others like will have in this present fuel crisis, do you know how many have lied in order to scam people of their hard earn money. the lists is endless...

Blackhawk03:


This babe ehn...

this blackhawk meeeennnhhh...the resemblance in her family has no duplicate elsewhere

SpareNo1:
you're mad! I don't close door when I'm bathing in my house. It's my house and I can choose to leave door open. The stranger/visitor should use his/her brain to stay away when he notices someone is bathing and door is opened

Don't even quote me again cuz I won't reply

you are very stupid...if I'm a stranger in your house sitting in the parlour then no one can blame me if I can see you from my sitting position

LessNoise:
I don't even understand the kinda house you live in..i mean how do u see a bathroom from the parlor...next time take a stroll

houses are not designed same as others...for mine you can see someone in the bathroom from the parlour if the door is not locked

SpareNo1:
I mean she will always have her clothes off and light on (if it's dark) when batting. Btw, how can you see bathroom light from the sitting room?

is your house design same as others where I live if you are in the bathroom and I'm in the parlour I will definitely see you if the door is not lock.

SpareNo1:
Lol. Is she suppose to bath in the dark with clothes on?

sometimes I wonder how some of you reason here in nairaland... didn't you read that the door was open so a mature adult doesn't know that the proper thing to do is to lock the door to a bathroom whenever she wants to take her bath especially if strangers are around

consultancy:
Take this serious and seek medical solutions, cos I once had a secondary scul teacher way bk den who was sufferin frm this too. Her's was so bad dat she would scream and fall to the ground right there on the assembly ground, while scratching her body, pulling her skirt up and scratching all over her laps and genitals. Dnt wait until urs graduates to dat level. Nof said

Osanobuaaaahh oooooo

terrible.... reason why I can say Nigeria is a failed state...

useless government

Adeebiwa09:
REFER

Ifedayo Olarinde, who is better known as Daddy Freeze, is not afraid to speak his mind especially when it comes to religion.
This explains why he started the #free the sheeple movement which is focused on helping Nigerians change their mindset on religion.
Recently, the popular OAP had an interview with the host of the Linda Ikeji TV, Tope Olowoniyan, where he dissected this issue.
He also gave reasons why Christians are not obligated to pay tithes » . His reasons were all based on the scriptures.
Here are ten things Daddy Freeze said about religion and tithe.
1. Religion is the easiest way to play politics.
2. Boko Haram is as a result of religion.
3. The religious man is a tool being used by the man selling him that religious brand. He is simply a puppet.
4. The guy that is telling you to bring your tithe so that God will bless you is telling you lies.
5. If you pay tithe to any Nigerian pastor you are a goat.
ALSO READ: Here is what Catholics, Jehovah Witness and pastors have to say about tithe »
6. If you want to give your money to Jesus, give it to the homeless, people in the hospital, hungry and naked people.
7. Private jet-flying Daddy G.Os should be paying tithe to their church members.
8. Many people are under the bondage of Malachi 3:8–10 which is actually about the priests robbing God, not the congregation robbing God.
9. Megachurches » are sitting on countries.
10. What are the churches doing with the 10% of 80 million people’s income?
These are just some of the things that he said in the interview. More can be found in the video below.
Daddy Freeze has been called the anti-Christ having the guts to say these scandalous things.
DADDY FREEZE: OAP SAYS SHOCKING THINGS ABOUT RELIGION

Hautside:
Please leave Freeze alone! Everyone has a right to his opinion. Stop following churches as if you are following a football club. Ask questions!! In Jesus's days, when the church wasn't doing it right, he never went to pray or mind his business but HE DROVE THEM OUT!!!!

This part of the world, we attach too many spirituality to everything! Timothy was told to take alcohol because of his stomach ulcer!! He was never told to pray!! Most people have slight headache and instead of using paracetamol before praying, they start speaking in tongue. Dont be deceived... Read the bible passages below and be blessed..

Matt 24 v 4.... Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

Matt 24 v 24...24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

don't mind them

Adeebiwa09:
lolx I can't stop his mouth he has spoken and I too have said mind. pastor freeze olorunleke Leonard rise on pastor

remember he didn't call himself a pastor... he is a journalist....


for your information... those God has lifted some people to high places...it is a blessing for them to speak for the down trodden


Chief Gani of the blessed memory did same...He remain my HERO

Adeebiwa09:
time Will fail me to but bottom line what he is teaching is not consistent with the scriptures then again was this how Jesus changed the wrong teachings of his days.

please Sir if you believe follow and preach what he is preaching its you choice I am just here to balance scriptures and set the record straight. my prayer is may the Lord open all of our eyes to know and see aright and get to the eph 4 Christian. love you sir and thanks

look you have no point here...tithe was one and the most emphasized reason why is speaking against pastors...so I'm not naive about what he has been saying...I have been following...


remove tithe, first fruit,cross over night fees....many of these pastors will leave pastoral work...they are not doing it for spiritual uplifting of their followers...

macmiral:
All I'm gonna say is, those of you criticizing men of God with daddy freeze, Be warned, the end is near..

Don't end in the pit of hell with him, he is an agent of condemnation sent by the underworld to turn man against God...

Repent Repent Repent y'all

my question is why so much emphasis on tithe and first fruits by our pastors...no one can change my mind that these people are solely there for business... it is as simple as that...I mean miracles are performed in the name of cash...what is the difference between them and doctors
I repeat all these pastors are not into God's work but for personal and family gain....it is a big nonsense

Adeebiwa09:
yes sir and since freeze has been talking about them have they changed no so our priorities are misplaced telling people not to pay tithe is not the way when Jesus came in Matt 5-7 he showed what was wrong why and what to do and they were without any reasonable doubt now if freeze is doing the work if God in freeingthesheeple it must be because the Holy spirit led him to and it will be without doubt because the characteristics or features of a spirit led work Will be evident

yes the work of the holy spirit will be evident...


Daddy Freeze is in a position to talk because he is popular and well know in some quarters... not like some of us here in nairaland who are not that known...

.so let him talk

Adeebiwa09:
again you need to learn to have some control I didn't say you are in a wrong church you are misinterpreting me and Jo body will force you to give too

yes yes yes what he has been saying from the very beginning is wrong thank you

tell me what he has said ...be specific....

Adeebiwa09:
my brother I know I have been in one where the doors were locked and we were put into sections that we must donate or pledge by force but... but that is not what freeze us doing if you think that is what he is doing you have been misled. you can argue all you want about tithe and first fruit but it is biblical and should be done by all Christians but if you don't want to fine free will that is what is grace an opportunity to choose and decide how you want to serve god to HIS PLEASING but freeze is doing more than that. granted what a lot of pastors do with tithe and offerings is terrible (that is what I speak up against). but that only means you are in the wrong church that this is bad does it mean Christ is not, no let God lead them to a church where Christ reign supreme

I know of a pastor who didn't collect tithe offering or anything for 3 years and still had a church growing after that he taught them for a while then they started collection willfully of course

look here my friend ..I'm not in any wrong church...because I don't drop tithe that must be nonsense coming from you. people drop tithe willingly in my church but not forced...it is like Thanksgiving...




can you tell me what Daddy Freeze has said that is wrong

Adeebiwa09:
yes sir you are Right about them not speaking but let me show you this 3 points or reasons
1. some are speaking tunde bakare spoke, can chairman and so on but when they do we bash and lash them not to speak about politics remember the whole issue with apostle Johnson Suleiman we Christians insulted him then the scandal came same thing now it has died a natural death we didn't get sense

2. the major way we perceive all these is spiritual so the church does a lot in praying than talking while that is good it is not enough again more church are focused on church planting and other projects which are misplaced priority

3. politics true Christian representatives of Christian must go into politics pastors and what have you, we must be there to make the change where we will stand for Christ and defend the faith while building the nation sadly a lot of xtians who got there messed up so bad and their church if they attended one didn't say anything probably cause of tithe and kolanut its really a shame like the minister of sport who converted to Islam

however in our own little way let's play our part

you see pastor Tunde Bakare is not a fly buoyant pastor...he is a man I so much respect...I don't classify him with the others...so I know him very well and I enjoy his preaching any day and time...to pastor Suleiman yes he spoke against Fulani herdsmen killing... a good one..


I'm not a fan who condemn pastors speaking out in such terms or pastors going into politics...


these are some of the areas I expect our pastors to be active but yet their concern is tithes and first fruits and cross over night fees...


I consider all these nonsense

Adeebiwa09:
my brother no needs for insult

2 & 3 questions: I am sorry I think I did not communicate in a way you will understand please study ROM. 13 and 14 what I mean is this which you completely misunderstood and misinterpreted I didn't say you not paying means you are a sinner no, the Bibles says if someone eats meat you that don't eat should not condemn and vice versa so in thus case he that doesn't pay first fruit should not criticize him that do and vice versa. the major question is if it is biblical or not once that is clear let each faith grow up the one that pays to know it is not compulsory and the one that does not to know he needs to as the case maybe and according to their faith.

now question one can't help but smile you see sir, the Pharisees did not understand the law and it's repercussions let me use this illustration a child can be born on the Sabbath day and the midwives must work and seven days later circumcised another work, Jesus simply taught them that the Sabbath was for man and not man for the Sabbath, if I may ask do you know why God gave them the law, again do you know the law was only operation from the wilderness to the promise land a lot was not followed after they got to the promise land and can you compare the Sabbath in the wilderness and the one in the days of the Pharisees, in the wilderness manna rained no cooking no going about its almost like a curfew but in the days of the Pharisees they dressed up cooked collect offering sacrifice do Sunday service as it were then again that Sabbath (the law in it) didn't apply to Moses he wrote the commandments in the space of forty days after he broke the first he literally carved the commandments into stones why didn't God kill him

I am just trying to make you understand what is the Truth and what our priorities should be.thanks

do you know Christians are being forced to pay tithe and first fruit in some churches?


if you don't know then that is what I'm speaking against and that is what Daddy Freeze has been hammering on...so the argument is very clear

Adeebiwa09:
I'm sorry but your repeated use of certain words like modified, things becoming renewed is totally untrue first it infers that God didn't know what he was doing when he gave the law meanwhile I don't think you know why God gave them the law which by the way only effective in the wilderness then I don't also think you know that before man left eden God had made plans for Jesus check the curse on the women, I believe you know however that the law was for only the children of Israel. why would Jesus fulfill the law if God was modifying it meanwhile the 'modifications' was worse read matt 5-7 then you will know Acts of the apostle shows us the kind of life the church and apostles lived my brother that modification is 'harder' a lot of people want to use the fact that we are in the era of grace to misbehave

true Jesus didn't talk about first fruit neither did he talk about a lot of things we do now mode of service, prayer, ordination and so on, notable is the phrase sexual immorality, transgender, plastic surgeries to modify body parts, sex style, child dedication my brother the list goes on and on

my brother my prayer is that the Lord will help his church but we must not be cancerous cells in it and if we must correct we must do it in love

modify as you perceived it is not what I mean...when Jesus Christ healed on Sabbath day, before then the Pharisees who are teachers of the laws saw it as breaking the law but Jesus Christ told them which is better.. to glorify God of to keep the Sabbath...


so why tell me to pay tithe and first fruit now and then rather why not glorify God by speaking again the evil in the society... none of the big so called pastors as ever look the government in the face ask for these Fulani killings to stop...none has talked about government not improving the economy in general...are people not suffering... tell me did Elijah not do all these did John the Baptist not do the same( reason he was killed) just to mention few

Adeebiwa09:
I'm sorry but your repeated use of certain words like modified, things becoming renewed is totally untrue first it infers that God didn't know what he was doing when he gave the law meanwhile I don't think you know why God gave them the law which by the way only effective in the wilderness then I don't also think you know that before man left eden God had made plans for Jesus check the curse on the women, I believe you know however that the law was for only the children of Israel. why would Jesus fulfill the law if God was modifying it meanwhile the 'modifications' was worse read matt 5-7 then you will know Acts of the apostle shows us the kind of life the church and apostles lived my brother that modification is 'harder' a lot of people want to use the fact that we are in the era of grace to misbehave

true Jesus didn't talk about first fruit neither did he talk about a lot of things we do now mode of service, prayer, ordination and so on, notable is the phrase sexual immorality, transgender, plastic surgeries to modify body parts, sex style, child dedication my brother the list goes on and on

my brother my prayer is that the Lord will help his church but we must not be cancerous cells in it and if we must correct we must do it in love

my question is why so much emphasis on tithe and first fruits by our pastors...no one can change my mind that these people are solely there for business... it is as simple as that...I mean miracles are performed in the name of cash...what is the difference between them and doctors


I repeat all these pastors are not into God's work but for personal and family gain....it is a big nonsense

sogud:
u cnt jugde oda Christian ways of doin tins wit odas.... we ve so many fake Christian lykwise pastors
d bad ones re d once spoilin d gud ones image..so anytin daddy freeze says is rubbish to me

a fellow Christian once told me I'm not born again just because I'm not a member of his church and baptized there....I just laughed because he didn't know who he was talking to... if Jesus Christ can preach and accept not just His own (Israel) but others the gentiles.. how dare someone tell me his church becomes his or her standard...can anyone tell me the criteria God uses in selecting the just yes He gave laws and commandments but how He blessed those who are not Israelites in the old before the coming of Jesus Christ remains a debate

Adeebiwa09:
my blood brother you are clearly not reading your Bible, so renewing means that the old testament is obsolete, by the way not an insult do you even know what old testament is different from the law? if you do you won't talk about does and don't Abel gave first fruit Solomon adviced it the Israelite do it the early church did worst in giving so what is the issue. I keep telling people we are losing the focus and something is helping freeze capitalize on that I am not a church fanatic but I Bible in the Bible that is why we all have it. my point is this the kingdom of God is more important than what I choose to do Romans 13 teaches us that, if someone chooses to do first fruit let him be let him that does not criticize he that doesn't God accept all

and please stop this stuff and focus on proclaiming the kingdom of God in your own way without harming the body

I read the Bible and I'm still reading it....tell me was it lawful for Jesus to heal on Sabbath day?


so if you are fasting and I decided not to fast means I'm not a christian or good Christian?


so since I have not given and I'm not ready to give my January salary as first fruit means I'm not following the law or commandment right?


sit down and reason and answer these questions

Adeebiwa09:
agreed a lot of us are gullible the question is why we have not devoted ourselves and time to know the lord and his word, a lot of us read devotionals instead and more than the Bible, we listen to what 'papa' says more than what the master says and frankly we are lazy Bible study, fasting ,prayer we don't do so what do you expect after this beginning of the year fasting a lot of people won't fast again, what am I saying a lot of people didn't even fast or pray ... however my question to you us this what are you doing about this gullibility? but then again first fruit is scriptural and except it is forced it has blessings to it

the reason why I don't like ignoring this type of thread because the gullible still persistently defend the gullibility....


like you said..many hardly read the Bible again...it is church pamphlets and rhapsodies





.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year

Oblongata:
In Nigeria all politicians deserve to be stoned, all governors deserve to be burnt, all senators need to be killed, president needs to be taken to the market Square naked and flogged to coma, revived and flogged again till his tenure finishes... they dey mess up gaan. But their supporters deserve hell fire the most!

I concur

kodded:
[s][/s]is it your Money, this is a new year,









you better look for a way to make your own money because dangote and mike adenuga didn't sit at home advising people on how to spend their money

.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year

kodded:
[s][/s]there is nothing like zombie Christianity boy




am very sure if you and that drunkard call freeze existed in Jesus time, you would have insulted Jesus for collecting 5 love of bread and 2 fishes from a poor boy





....in fact you would have called the boy a zombie too




....you better give your life to Christ this new year and stop following that agent of lucifer called dadick-frezze

.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year

excel101:
Now i know what it meant that by " a man err's before he falls" daddy freeze be careful oo! You can whatever giving in the church, a name, in as much as its is to the Glory of God, ok. .

.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year

thorpido:
It depends on what you term as gullibility. The whole thing about Christianity is 'gullibility' if we are to measure by your perception.We are not all at the same level of faith in Christianity.One person is definitely going to see another person at a different level of faith as gullibility.
Remember what Jesus said,He said John the baptist came fasting and they said he had a demon,the Son of man is eating and they say He's a glutton.
Faith,understanding and perception!

thank you for mentioning that last sentence... a very favourite portion of the Bible a love so much...He Jesus Christ was referring to the Pharisees because they considered their ways perfect yet they were involved in shady things.....He was telling them the ways of John they rejected and His own ways they also rejected... but instead of them to focus on the essential goal of John and His they never did...



.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year