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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Fourwinds: 10:23pm On Jan 03
excel101:
Now i know what it meant that by " a man err's before he falls" daddy freeze be careful oo! You can whatever giving in the church, a name, in as much as its is to the Glory of God, ok. .





.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Drguzzykola(m): 10:23pm On Jan 03
Wolexdey:
Proverbs 3:9 Honor the LORD with thy substance, and with the first fruits of thine increase.
not on yearly basis,
I think my first fruit as a salary earner is d first salary I got from my workplace , and that's once till infinity,not d yearly type
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Fourwinds: 10:24pm On Jan 03
kodded:
[s][/s]there is nothing like zombie Christianity boy




am very sure if you and that drunkard call freeze existed in Jesus time, you would have insulted Jesus for collecting 5 love of bread and 2 fishes from a poor boy undecided





....in fact you would have called the boy a zombie too




....you better give your life to Christ this new year and stop following that agent of lucifer called dadick-frezze undecided





.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Fourwinds: 10:26pm On Jan 03
kodded:
[s][/s]is it your Money, this is a new year,









you better look for a way to make your own money because dangote and mike adenuga didn't sit at home advising people on how to spend their money





.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Mikeparlo12(m): 10:33pm On Jan 03
A carnal mind cannot understand the things of the spirit.
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by ahmedbanj(m): 10:37pm On Jan 03
Choi,pple are just so senseless,hw wld U giv a pastor ur 1st salary in a year?
there are widows,the less previledged,U dont think about those ones to help,na pastors wey don belleful U dey give?
I pray any of U givin out useless & senseless moni 2 all dose pastors and U nt willin 2 help dose in need that came 2 ask for ur favors or dose dat cldnt come due to shame,but u know dey nid help,I pray U also experience brokeness juz lyk d less previledged and run to ur pastor for help or blessings...
Na dat tym ur brainless head go correct!
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Adeebiwa09(m): 10:40pm On Jan 03
Fourwinds:
he will never say that...go and read about Gandhi of Indian ...he was saying all these things...imagine someone who doesn't believe in Christianity but yet acknowledged how good and compassionate Jesus Christ was....but he(Gandhi) made comment that today's Christians their ways he doesn't understand...



I'm a Christian but the gullibility of today's Christians I myself I don't understand

agreed a lot of us are gullible the question is why we have not devoted ourselves and time to know the lord and his word, a lot of us read devotionals instead and more than the Bible, we listen to what 'papa' says more than what the master says and frankly we are lazy Bible study, fasting ,prayer we don't do so what do you expect after this beginning of the year fasting a lot of people won't fast again, what am I saying a lot of people didn't even fast or pray ... however my question to you us this what are you doing about this gullibility? but then again first fruit is scriptural and except it is forced it has blessings to it
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by tonytony208(m): 10:49pm On Jan 03
kodded:
[/s] [s]nope, let me educate you lad, if you sow a seed and come back the next day and the see germinate an sure you will want to sow more, but if you sow a seed and it doesn't germinate am sure you will not think of sowing it again even if they point you a gun











....same as this folks they believe that the seed is working for them, and truly it is, no body brainwash or not will continue giving money on something that has not produce any good fruit or good result




I pray this year 2018 God will give you a spiritual insight on seed sowing, if only you open your smelling and disgusting heart
undecided



No kid, you are deeply bereft of knowledge
Sowing seeds should be where the seed will have impact, and not in the pocket of your fraudulent pastor

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Adeebiwa09(m): 10:50pm On Jan 03
Fourwinds:






.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year


my blood brother you are clearly not reading your Bible, so renewing means that the old testament is obsolete, by the way not an insult do you even know what old testament is different from the law? if you do you won't talk about does and don't Abel gave first fruit Solomon adviced it the Israelite do it the early church did worst in giving so what is the issue. I keep telling people we are losing the focus and something is helping freeze capitalize on that I am not a church fanatic but I Bible in the Bible that is why we all have it. my point is this the kingdom of God is more important than what I choose to do Romans 13 teaches us that, if someone chooses to do first fruit let him be let him that does not criticize he that doesn't God accept all

and please stop this stuff and focus on proclaiming the kingdom of God in your own way without harming the body
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by uyplus(m): 10:51pm On Jan 03
post=63866299:
All this na talk.. we are no longer children tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine I'll give my first fruit to God.. daddy freeze go and cry.. first fruit tradition is normal.. people even give their first salary to their parents for blessing why won't I now give it to the Oracle of God.

So how has that affected your earnings? If you perform badly at work, you will be sacked because even the owner is praying to his God for growth! Keep being deluded. Someone giving is salary for blessing is stupid! What will parent blessings do please? How about divorcees that get married in church, wasn't their union blessed by the pastor and the same parents? Keep being a fool for religious dogma! If you like, empty your account to a pastor and equate it to giving to God. How does that add up? There is no higher calling, thus the access your pastor has to God is the same access even you have! Where did God say giving to a pastor is giving to God? Jesus rather said, doing good to the least of the brethrens is doing good unto God!

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Fourwinds: 10:52pm On Jan 03
Adeebiwa09:


agreed a lot of us are gullible the question is why we have not devoted ourselves and time to know the lord and his word, a lot of us read devotionals instead and more than the Bible, we listen to what 'papa' says more than what the master says and frankly we are lazy Bible study, fasting ,prayer we don't do so what do you expect after this beginning of the year fasting a lot of people won't fast again, what am I saying a lot of people didn't even fast or pray ... however my question to you us this what are you doing about this gullibility? but then again first fruit is scriptural and except it is forced it has blessings to it


the reason why I don't like ignoring this type of thread because the gullible still persistently defend the gullibility....


like you said..many hardly read the Bible again...it is church pamphlets and rhapsodies





.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by sogud(m): 10:54pm On Jan 03
Fourwinds:







..go and read about Gandhi of Indian ...he was saying all these things...imagine someone who doesn't believe in Christianity but yet acknowledged how good and compassionate Jesus Christ was....but he(Gandhi) made comment that today's Christians their ways he doesn't understand...
I'm a Christian but the gullibility of today's Christians I myself I don't understand

u cnt jugde oda Christian ways of doin tins wit odas.... we ve so many fake Christian lykwise pastors
d bad ones re d once spoilin d gud ones image..so anytin daddy freeze says is rubbish to me
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Fourwinds: 11:00pm On Jan 03
Adeebiwa09:


my blood brother you are clearly not reading your Bible, so renewing means that the old testament is obsolete, by the way not an insult do you even know what old testament is different from the law? if you do you won't talk about does and don't Abel gave first fruit Solomon adviced it the Israelite do it the early church did worst in giving so what is the issue. I keep telling people we are losing the focus and something is helping freeze capitalize on that I am not a church fanatic but I Bible in the Bible that is why we all have it. my point is this the kingdom of God is more important than what I choose to do Romans 13 teaches us that, if someone chooses to do first fruit let him be let him that does not criticize he that doesn't God accept all

and please stop this stuff and focus on proclaiming the kingdom of God in your own way without harming the body
I read the Bible and I'm still reading it....tell me was it lawful for Jesus to heal on Sabbath day?


so if you are fasting and I decided not to fast means I'm not a christian or good Christian?


so since I have not given and I'm not ready to give my January salary as first fruit means I'm not following the law or commandment right?


sit down and reason and answer these questions

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by WONDERS001(m): 11:06pm On Jan 03
ednut1:
The nigerian version of christianity is nothing but a business of selling hope to the hopeless and hopeful. U cannot attend service without hearing about tithe or offering at least 3-4 times. Smh





Where I worship its just one offering in a single church service. DONT BE QUICK TO MAKE FOOLISH GENERALIZATION.

As for paying 'first fruit 'it works for those of us that believe in it.
I see no reason why someone should attempt talking me out of my belief especially. ,when it works for me.
The last time I checked. "freeze" have not tried preaching to the idle worshippers and prostitutes. ,why should I not believe that the devil is using him against the church?
I strongly believe that there are many lost sheep outside the church,he should go and free them and stop allowing himself to be used by the devil.

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by akinejame: 11:07pm On Jan 03
My question is, why are you people who have claimed to have your eyes opened, still get angry over the way other people spend their money? I remember MMM. After we all condemned it, everyone started minding their business until people suffered from stubborness. Why can't you let go of this discussion?

If a christian sees the benefit of giving to his/her pastors and continues to do so, why does it prick you people so much? Can you let them be and when it is time, we'll all know who was right or wrong.

I don't pay tithe and I don't give my money to pastors, that still doesn't make me more sensible or knowledgeable than anyone who does. I don't read my bible that much and I'm not totally a super christian. Just like someone said earlier, no one will continue giving money away if they aren't seeing the benefits or rewards. So it clearly is working for them. Face your front!

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Adeebiwa09(m): 11:11pm On Jan 03
Fourwinds:



the reason why I don't like ignoring this type of thread because the gullible still persistently defend the gullibility....


like you said..many hardly read the Bible again...it is church pamphlets and rhapsodies





.what first fruit did Jesus Christ talked or made emphasis on first fruit ..
many of you need to study the Bible very well...
when the Pharisees kept referring to portions of the old testament Jesus Christ kept telling them things are becoming renewed...for example... on Sabbath day He(Jesus Christ) heal a sick person....
He (Jesus Christ) tongue lash the Pharisees when they accuse His disciples of eating the grains of the field while others fast..
He(Jesus Christ) talked about how David ate from the inner most temple of God considered to be the holiest... did God kill David
He was just telling them the way they see or perceive God is terrible....
God had modified so many things even while relating with His prophets...read your Bible and stop all these follow follow pastors things...this is a new year

I'm sorry but your repeated use of certain words like modified, things becoming renewed is totally untrue first it infers that God didn't know what he was doing when he gave the law meanwhile I don't think you know why God gave them the law which by the way only effective in the wilderness then I don't also think you know that before man left eden God had made plans for Jesus check the curse on the women, I believe you know however that the law was for only the children of Israel. why would Jesus fulfill the law if God was modifying it meanwhile the 'modifications' was worse read matt 5-7 then you will know Acts of the apostle shows us the kind of life the church and apostles lived my brother that modification is 'harder' a lot of people want to use the fact that we are in the era of grace to misbehave

true Jesus didn't talk about first fruit neither did he talk about a lot of things we do now mode of service, prayer, ordination and so on, notable is the phrase sexual immorality, transgender, plastic surgeries to modify body parts, sex style, child dedication my brother the list goes on and on

my brother my prayer is that the Lord will help his church but we must not be cancerous cells in it and if we must correct we must do it in love
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Fourwinds: 11:12pm On Jan 03
sogud:


u cnt jugde oda Christian ways of doin tins wit odas.... we ve so many fake Christian lykwise pastors
d bad ones re d once spoilin d gud ones image..so anytin daddy freeze says is rubbish to me
a fellow Christian once told me I'm not born again just because I'm not a member of his church and baptized there....I just laughed because he didn't know who he was talking to... if Jesus Christ can preach and accept not just His own (Israel) but others the gentiles.. how dare someone tell me his church becomes his or her standard...can anyone tell me the criteria God uses in selecting the just yes He gave laws and commandments but how He blessed those who are not Israelites in the old before the coming of Jesus Christ remains a debate
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Adeebiwa09(m): 11:12pm On Jan 03
mickeymimi:
First Fruit Offering - Is It Biblical?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwxQXYkAR_w
YES
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by CrEaToRmalden(m): 11:12pm On Jan 03
kodded:
how a man spend his money is not your business undecided






@dadick-freeze


nice comment
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by yrex01(m): 11:13pm On Jan 03
Histrings08:
Pfft... They're not giving it to the pastor buh to God... That's where daddy freeze is getting it wrong..
one of em.. So God came down from heaven n start collecting it ba ?

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by MrFly: 11:14pm On Jan 03
ikbnice:
I don't blame the pastors much. People are indeed really making themselves available for the pastors to use for their own benefit. How will someone willingly give their salary to the pastor? A Pastor who is by far richer than you are. Is that not pure foolishness?
Religion has turn many supposedly sane men into walking zombies
as 4 me and ma family i'l serve d Lord bt not in enriching others at ma own detriment.
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Fourwinds: 11:18pm On Jan 03
Adeebiwa09:


I'm sorry but your repeated use of certain words like modified, things becoming renewed is totally untrue first it infers that God didn't know what he was doing when he gave the law meanwhile I don't think you know why God gave them the law which by the way only effective in the wilderness then I don't also think you know that before man left eden God had made plans for Jesus check the curse on the women, I believe you know however that the law was for only the children of Israel. why would Jesus fulfill the law if God was modifying it meanwhile the 'modifications' was worse read matt 5-7 then you will know Acts of the apostle shows us the kind of life the church and apostles lived my brother that modification is 'harder' a lot of people want to use the fact that we are in the era of grace to misbehave

true Jesus didn't talk about first fruit neither did he talk about a lot of things we do now mode of service, prayer, ordination and so on, notable is the phrase sexual immorality, transgender, plastic surgeries to modify body parts, sex style, child dedication my brother the list goes on and on

my brother my prayer is that the Lord will help his church but we must not be cancerous cells in it and if we must correct we must do it in love
my question is why so much emphasis on tithe and first fruits by our pastors...no one can change my mind that these people are solely there for business... it is as simple as that...I mean miracles are performed in the name of cash...what is the difference between them and doctors


I repeat all these pastors are not into God's work but for personal and family gain....it is a big nonsense
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by jade14(m): 11:19pm On Jan 03
Histrings08:
Pfft... They're not giving it to the pastor buh to God... That's where daddy freeze is getting it wrong..

Broda he is not...this tins are not don anymor wit Jesus n a new covenant ,we al say n proclaim to be wid him whc mins makin us dead to sin whc implys dead to mosaic law..tru him alone we al wod be saved not by laws or works buh by faith n believe in his son Jesus,


n d bible said produce from d land he blessed u with not coin n silver cos give to Caesar wat blongs to him n to God wat blongs to him..


no jst agree wid me or anybody, read d bible ursef n if its incomprehenable pray for understandin

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by bionixs: 11:21pm On Jan 03
kodded:
how a man spend his money is not your business undecided






@dadick-freeze
freez and all those who lose sleep on how an adult who earned his money spends it are MAD and CURSED ! If you ever quote me, you MUST roam the street Unclad! tired of all these noise about tithe and pastors. Omotola should just try to keep her hard earned fame on this.
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Thylord(m): 11:24pm On Jan 03
Histrings08:
Pfft... They're not giving it to the pastor buh to God... That's where daddy freeze is getting it wrong..
oga ade pls keep quiet,which god are they giving to.you are the one with a total wrong mentality.if they give out their january salaries to their pastors,what will they pay their bills with.some of you are just being enternally stupid with your imaginary god.
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by pafisayo(m): 11:24pm On Jan 03
Mikeparlo12:
A carnal mind cannot understand the things of the spirit.

This quote is very very funny.
How does the man on the street with no knowledge of the scripture or no interest in religion.. A simple basic man with his carnal mind.
How will you as a Christian tell him or her Jesus Christ is Lord and then expect him to believe or Understand with his carnal mind ??
Or it's safe to basically assume you as a Christian only discus Jesus with Christians like you Christians already in the spirit??
Your Bible does not encourage you to win souls for Christ? Especially those souls with carnal mind??
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by ericmani: 11:29pm On Jan 03
InvertedHammer:
Freeze is still alive.

El Rufai is still alive.

What else do these hopeless folks need to know that these pastors are scammers?
What are u saying uncle, so u tink God is a serial killer? If u dnt hav anytin to say SHUT UP!
.
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Fourwinds: 11:30pm On Jan 03
Adeebiwa09:


I'm sorry but your repeated use of certain words like modified, things becoming renewed is totally untrue first it infers that God didn't know what he was doing when he gave the law meanwhile I don't think you know why God gave them the law which by the way only effective in the wilderness then I don't also think you know that before man left eden God had made plans for Jesus check the curse on the women, I believe you know however that the law was for only the children of Israel. why would Jesus fulfill the law if God was modifying it meanwhile the 'modifications' was worse read matt 5-7 then you will know Acts of the apostle shows us the kind of life the church and apostles lived my brother that modification is 'harder' a lot of people want to use the fact that we are in the era of grace to misbehave

true Jesus didn't talk about first fruit neither did he talk about a lot of things we do now mode of service, prayer, ordination and so on, notable is the phrase sexual immorality, transgender, plastic surgeries to modify body parts, sex style, child dedication my brother the list goes on and on

my brother my prayer is that the Lord will help his church but we must not be cancerous cells in it and if we must correct we must do it in love
modify as you perceived it is not what I mean...when Jesus Christ healed on Sabbath day, before then the Pharisees who are teachers of the laws saw it as breaking the law but Jesus Christ told them which is better.. to glorify God of to keep the Sabbath...


so why tell me to pay tithe and first fruit now and then rather why not glorify God by speaking again the evil in the society... none of the big so called pastors as ever look the government in the face ask for these Fulani killings to stop...none has talked about government not improving the economy in general...are people not suffering... tell me did Elijah not do all these did John the Baptist not do the same( reason he was killed) just to mention few

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Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Adeebiwa09(m): 11:30pm On Jan 03
Fourwinds:
I read the Bible and I'm still reading it....tell me was it lawful for Jesus to heal on Sabbath day?


so if you are fasting and I decided not to fast means I'm not a christian or good Christian?


so since I have not given and I'm not ready to give my January salary as first fruit means I'm not following the law or commandment right?


sit down and reason and answer these questions

my brother no needs for insult

2 & 3 questions: I am sorry I think I did not communicate in a way you will understand please study ROM. 13 and 14 what I mean is this which you completely misunderstood and misinterpreted I didn't say you not paying means you are a sinner no, the Bibles says if someone eats meat you that don't eat should not condemn and vice versa so in thus case he that doesn't pay first fruit should not criticize him that do and vice versa. the major question is if it is biblical or not once that is clear let each faith grow up the one that pays to know it is not compulsory and the one that does not to know he needs to as the case maybe and according to their faith.

now question one can't help but smile you see sir, the Pharisees did not understand the law and it's repercussions let me use this illustration a child can be born on the Sabbath day and the midwives must work and seven days later circumcised another work, Jesus simply taught them that the Sabbath was for man and not man for the Sabbath, if I may ask do you know why God gave them the law, again do you know the law was only operation from the wilderness to the promise land a lot was not followed after they got to the promise land and can you compare the Sabbath in the wilderness and the one in the days of the Pharisees, in the wilderness manna rained no cooking no going about its almost like a curfew but in the days of the Pharisees they dressed up cooked collect offering sacrifice do Sunday service as it were then again that Sabbath (the law in it) didn't apply to Moses he wrote the commandments in the space of forty days after he broke the first he literally carved the commandments into stones why didn't God kill him

I am just trying to make you understand what is the Truth and what our priorities should be.thanks
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Twochi: 11:38pm On Jan 03
yahoo pastors that SARS suppose to catch they will leave them and be catching broke boys
Re: Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde Reacts To Daddy Freeze "Giving Pastors January Salary" by Adeebiwa09(m): 11:42pm On Jan 03
Fourwinds:
modify as you perceived it is not what I mean...when Jesus Christ healed on Sabbath day, before then the Pharisees who are teachers of the laws saw it as breaking the law but Jesus Christ told them which is better.. to glorify God of to keep the Sabbath...


so why tell me to pay tithe and first fruit now and then rather why not glorify God by speaking again the evil in the society... none of the big so called pastors as ever look the government in the face ask for these Fulani killings to stop...none has talked about government not improving the economy in general...are people not suffering... tell me did Elijah not do all these did John the Baptist not do the same( reason he was killed) just to mention few

yes sir you are Right about them not speaking but let me show you this 3 points or reasons
1. some are speaking tunde bakare spoke, can chairman and so on but when they do we bash and lash them not to speak about politics remember the whole issue with apostle Johnson Suleiman we Christians insulted him then the scandal came same thing now it has died a natural death we didn't get sense

2. the major way we perceive all these is spiritual so the church does a lot in praying than talking while that is good it is not enough again more church are focused on church planting and other projects which are misplaced priority

3. politics true Christian representatives of Christian must go into politics pastors and what have you, we must be there to make the change where we will stand for Christ and defend the faith while building the nation sadly a lot of xtians who got there messed up so bad and their church if they attended one didn't say anything probably cause of tithe and kolanut its really a shame like the minister of sport who converted to Islam

however in our own little way let's play our part

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