expert234: I don't understand. When did i move from white men killing people who resisted them? I can't remember ever writing such a thing. Are you sure you are ok?!
The Pope was wrong. His dispositions are not in line with Jesus teachings! He didn't represent Christianity because there is no association between his behavior and what Jesus taught us!
Mark you, your ancestors were already enslaving themselves before the pope made his wrong declaration. So stop making it look like whites started slavery in Africa.
You should ask yourself why olodumare and all the idols your ancestors served couldn't save them from God of Israel! Does it mean God of Israel is stronger than eledumare?!
Do you know that another name for the Jamaican resistance of 1804 was Baptist War? It was so-called because it started with a Baptist Church preacher named Samuel Sharpe along with other Baptist Church members. So, it started with CHRISTIANS!
Yes, other voices rose in support of abolishing transatlantic slave trade, but Christians played very active role, which you are trying to deny and which should tell you that whatever that pope did or said didn't represent Christianity!
Anyone who tells people like you the truth about what your ancestors did wrong is automatically licking the feet of white men! That's absurd, hypocritical thinking!
If you are a sincere person, you would have seen that I'm holding brief for Christianity, not the British government.
Christians took undeniably active part in slavery abolishion because they believed slavery violated God's will and contradicted the moral teachings of Jesus!.
And I'm here shaking my head to how a self acclaimed knowledgeable person can be full of so much half information and unbelievable insincerity
Typical gaslighting strategy! I've seen your type before!
When anyone tells you the truth about the wrong activities of your ancestors, you start displaying insincerity, hypocrisy and gaslighting. You'll start calling the person a names, labelling and profiling him; just because you loath the truth!
Was Efunroye Tinubu also forced to do slavery?! You can't answer because you are a highly insincere person!
The Pope didn't represent Christianity. Christianity played a huge role in abolishing transatlantic slave trade, which eledumare FAILED to do!
I already gotten my answer, and wouldn't need to thread any further. I could have just open up your Bible and quote it for your, but there are various versions of it(we all know why), which you will still dodge.
helinues: Currently, there is a glitch in the matrix. We are back to old century when few people decide the fate of millions .. This is not a prediction but order. If there is another pandemic, why won't robots take over everywhere, the justification must be given ahead.
Sebi Ebola have reappeared again from nowhere.
Americans can't be claiming to be practicing democracy while Trump has been behaving like a tyrant.
I like that word claiming, I guess many of us know what is going on over there is nothing near democracy...
expert234: Mr. History Explainer, show me evidence that they had no choice! The world has gone beyond claims that have no proof.
You want to explain history, but you show yourself to be ignorant of history.
I challenge you to go and research about those who stopped slave trade in Nigeria/West Africa . You should also visit badagry where slaves were shipped to Brazil to learn about how the entire thing happened.
I challenge you to research how Efunroye Tinubu was expelled from Lagos by westerners because she refused to stop slave trade.
Those ancestors you want to exhult deserve to be flogged in the public!
It's obvious you are the one that had not been reading African history by Africans
... Smiles...., you have moved from white men killing people who resist to participate in their slave business to Christian stopping slavery. okay, here we go. Pope Nicholas V's Papal Bulls was the official grant given to your white masters by the church, even your current shitty pope tender an apology recently for their involvement, seem you are not following your religion worldwide, or kiss your masters feet who enslave African for 400yrs (your God wey liberate Israelite, no know say him suppose liberate Africans for 400yrs, like say him dey sleep , use ur fucking brain)
On how it stop, various resistance lead to it, Haiti resistance, Jamaica, Barbados, the list go on. Also above all, the white man you are licking their feet finally realize that, with the rise of the industrial system, it's cheaper to just pay wages and allow them sort their accomodations and feeding than to cover those cost themselves. Then governments started banning human trafficking. It's all there, right fucking there.
I am just here shaking my head to how someone could be so blind to the obvious.
I bet you don't like your skin, your lips, your hair, same way you don't like your culture and your ancestral system. A mental slavery push to you by western media to make themselves look superior, and you an inferior being. Department of defense(DOD), did a good job in Hollywood to surely ensure that. I don't blame you though, history was removed from our curriculum and change to social studies.
expert234: Did your ancestors sell you as slaves to whites for mirror and umbrella or not?!
Answer the question!
If not for Christians that stopped slave trade, you might have died on the ship to Brazil for slavery!
You didn't hear what I said, they had no choice, the one who refuse were killed right there. Even the iru town now called Victoria island suffer same fate, anyone who object face war. Our ancestors never invest in weapon of mass destruction, and they lost.
like it's right there, what part of history do I have to explain to you. You are still mentally colonized thereby defending the very chains that put you there.
And also Christianity didn't stop slave trade it was a tool for wielding it. Read how to make a Christian negro.
expert234: show.me where bible says Christians should spit on anyone who doesn't believe in them.
Show me evidence that those your ancestors are good examples to follow.
Show me evidence that those explorers and mercenaries got their directives from Jesus Christ.
Do you know that those ancestors were the ones that sold our people as slaves to slave buyers from south America?
Do you know that it was Christians that forced those your ancestors from selling their fellow men to slave buyers?
Someone like Efunroye Tinubu wanted to continue selling her own people as slaves but she was forced to stop by Christian missionaries
If not for Christians, maybe your ancestors would have sold you as slave in exchange for guns, gunpowder, mirror, bottles of foreign gin and umbrella!
You don't have to thank Christians for freeing you from slavery by your own people, but stop lying aggainst Christianity!
You speak like a zombie, just repeating what was given to you by your slave masters. Well, Britain did not just decide to come to Nigeria, the decision was made in Berlin Germany called the Berlin conference.
The model was to first explore for what is worth taking, next was the missionaries, your church and so called Christianity was introduced to weaken an average African man, love your neighbor as yourself, if they slap your left cheek show the right bullshit, don't fight for land, rather look into the sky and pray. Next was the mecineries, but instead of slap, it was guns and barrels. Then comes the business of slavery.
Reason I say you know nothing about history and how the world work, well the religion was a mental slavery tool meant to keep you in obedience rather than questioning the system. To hate everything African and embrace the western system. Your skin, hair, spiritualism etc.
Just read history written by your people, for an eye opener and stop spitting history written by your colonial master who will rather say they civilize a racial population for some cash crops, instead of saying they terrorize force some racial population in slavery and ensure every household meet their quota in the cotton field.
As for our spiritualism, I know they don't call you names if you don't practice it. Infact it isn't called religion, rather than just alignment with your chi. Capitalism and Christianity came and term it idol worshipping.
Read about nat turner for the last question
I don't have any issues with an africa, truth is I have no reason to. You guys are the ones train to see me as an outsider in my own ancestral land.
Again reas about your history by your people, at least from the ones who dare to write them
expert234: You mean the same ancestors that sold your people as slaves to foreign slave buyers in exchange for umbrella and dry gin?!
In the eyes of your ancestors, the value of your life was not more than a mirror!
Do you know how many black people your ancestors had to sell before they could get one singular mirror?! 40 black people!
It was Christians that forced your ancestors from selling you as a slave.
Now, ask yourself this sincere question: Are such ancestors worthy of honor?!
Christianity had contributed mire to the black race than those your ancestors
And you were told they just accept to sell their people directly right. Your history written by your Christian kuku klansman say they never revolt. But they did, and what did they do the the one who resist, they kill them, cut off their head, put in a jar and taken back to Britain. Many still exist today. Now tell me, if they embrace slavery or choose to live so people like yourself could exist.
Your writeup show you know nothing about your history from your people. Go read African history from African and stop spitting on your culture.
expert234: In the case of Islam, your Quran and Hadith commands you to practice terorism and weekedness against non-Muslims. Terorism is a NORM and command in Islam and you are making the world difficult for others!
Islam is a curse to humanity!
Now, answer the questions instead of beating about the bush!
Both Christianity and Islam spit on anyone who doesn't believe in them, reason I fall back to my ancestral spiritualism. So I don't really understand where you get all these assumptions from because I decide to enlightened you on how this foreign identity came to by.
The flow was explorers(see what we can take), missionary(break their spiritual system, worldly things are vanity, look up to heaven and pray instead), mecineries(guns and slave system), business partnership(slave and imperialism).
I don't expect you to understand though, your ancestors didn't like it, but they did what they had to do to survive and ensure you are here today, even if it is to accept what you now strongly defend.
Read your history from your people, not your history written by the western.
Your Quran and Hadith command you to practice terorism and be weeked to non-Muslims! So, it's different in the case of Islam!
1. Show me the light in Islam
2. How can Islam cure me from madness if another name for Islam is Mental disorder?!
3. How can Mental Disorder save someone from madness?!
I don't own the Quran or the Bible, they are all foreign products package to substitute African spiritualism. I practiced the spiritual system pass to me by my ancestors. I don't know why I have to fight someone over foreign goods.
WorkTheTalk: Fly wey no de hear word the follow dead body enter grave. Putin invaded a sovereign country, Ukraine, and terrorists supporters applauded him to mock the US. Trump promised during election campaign to end the war in days if elected as the president. Trump won the election, and invited Putin to the white house to beg him to end the war. Instead Putin snubbed Trump, and continued to bomb Ukraine. In annoyance Trump went after Venezuela and Iran, the key allies of Putin.
Now see where his pride has landed him. Pride goes before the fall!
Trump is now using style to ask Zelensky (the one you all called comedian) to stop blowing up Rassia's energy installation so he can see desiel to buy from Putin.
Putin invade a sovereign country was your first statement, which made me ask, do you know who Viktor Yanukovyc was and the deal presented to him by Putin vs the one from EU. I no get the energy abeg ...
I am not stingy but, I just have principle. If you request and I fit do for you, I go do am if the money na wetin I fit just forget. If na my junior ones wey dey sch, ilna to wait till ba enter. Cos I know Dad already done his part.
WorkTheTalk: Putin boasted he would take Kyiv, and capture Zelensky in two weeks. More than 4 years later, Putin is now a laughing stock among the world powers.
Trump boasted he would captured Venezuela's former president, the US wanted narcotic supplier. He did that within 24 hours without losing a soldier. Benjamin Netanyahu boasted he would cut off the head of the snake (supreme terrorist Khomeini of Iran). He did that in 24 hours without losing a soldier.
Putin's only achievements is to exchange dead bodies of soldiers every month. When is Putin going to capture Zelensky the comedian?
What about Iran. If Putin want to capture Maduro, he will. Make una stop to dey talk like say we no dey read news. We know zelenski was a comedian before presidency, we know about the deal between eu and Ukraine and reason Viktor Yanukovych, was overthrown. If you don't kindly get some enlightenment.
2. How can Islam cure me from madness if another name for Islam is Mental disorder?!
3. How can Mental Disorder save someone from madness?!
both bro, people commit terrorism in the name of the religion. It's everywhere, if they are Muslim it's terrorism, if it's Christian it's genocide, if it's our traditional spiritualism it's witchcraft. Nothing more nothing less. Everything can be use for good or bad, it just depends on the agenda of the person wielding it. I hope you understand and if not, maybe later in the future if you read Abit about history and capitalism, you will. Till then ✌️
Abeg this religion thing no dey work. The people wey give una the thing sef dey invest in weapon of mass destruction, na wetin Dem use terrorize ur ancestors and they are still investing heavily in it, while they give you this metal slave system wey una dey hold. Tomorrow when they strike you, your puppet leader will say you should pray, meaning look the other way
dederocs: Na zombies carry am for head, left to me we all should practice African spirituality. You talk of influencing elections, America elections was influenced. Stop shifting goal post, talk like an educated fellow...we are talking of development, how can we be fully developed with jihadists territorists making us waste trillions fighting them, and scaring away investors?Nigeria's problem now is Islamic jihadists territorists and extremists. Yes Brazil is way developed than Nigeria.
Okay educated fellow, 😎. Now that your attention is on terrorism, I ask a simple question, who do you think is funding this so called extremist and why do you think that is, don't start with they wanted to convert Nigeria to a Muslim country, Cos that is for people who ain't ready to really do deep research.
This foreign goods called religion packaged and force on our ancestors is still working on the descendants. Well, they were taught anything indigenous and black is evil and should be rejected .
If you look closely, abacha, muritala, GEJ and shagari were saying the same thing. Hammering on one key issue every African nation have been fighting, neocolonialism and imperialism.
We make a great deal out of cheating. Honestly, there's nothing there hence I considered open marriage as the best. I can sleep with multiple women and my wife can do the same if she chooses to. Life no suppose hard.
Tofiakwa, not in our culture. Those things are foreign goods